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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

With Trumps tariffs being in the news these last few months, I've been asking myself: are there any benefits of Economic Protectionism? Libs tell us that they're nearly always bad, but is it true? Or does protectionism bring benefits economically?

No.

it depends

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under free trade you get massive wasteful overproduction of low quality commodities destined for landfill. you get deliberate destruction of productive forces and essentials to create atificial scarcity. you have planned obsolescence and rape of environment. under protectionism you have constipation of circulation and hypernationalist saber rattling. protectionism leads to trade wars. trade wars lead to shooting wars. shooting wars lead to proles drafted to shoot each other over bourgeois nationalism. the alternative to both these capitalist paradigms is centrally planned production for use, from each according to ability, to each according to need. Under bourgeois dictatorship, free trade and protectionism are merely strategies to serve the ruling class and neither of them are necessarily historically progressive.

I noticed that whenever people admit poverty is bad from a bourgeois perspective they're usually pushing Keynesianism. I see the West moving back to a dirigisme/Keynesian/neo-Mercantilist type model now that China's rise has them butthurt and they're backpedaling on free trade.

To whom?

>>2294358
>I see the West moving back to a dirigisme/Keynesian/neo-Mercantilist type model now that China's rise has them butthurt and they're backpedaling on free trade.
Post like these have always rubbed me the wrong way, and I think I know why; they talk about things in terms of nations, rather than class. I don't care if country a triumphs over country b. I care about socialism.

>>2294358

Indeed, historically the socialist country's response was a dialectical negation of both: The state monopoly on foreign trade.

Foreign trade was neither protected nor left to its own devices, but instead carefully managed according the needs of the current plan.

>>2294380
OP asked about Trump. that was the context of the conversation. it's not ignoring class struggle to answer a question someone has about the direction a specific country is going. US is leader of the western imperialist block of nations. NATO.

>>2294380
Read Vo Nguyen Giap of Viet Nam:

>It was at a time when capitalism was passing into the stage of imperialism that Lenin set forth his famous new thesis that socialism cannot be simultaneously successful in all countries but it will first succeed in one or a certain number of countries. At the same time, with the new theory on the leadership of the proletariat in the bourgeois democratic revolution and the transition from this revolution to the proletarian revolution, Lenin and the Russian Bolshevik Party worked out the military programme of the bourgeois democratic revolution and the socialist revolution in Russia. Lenin underlined the necessity of building up the military organization of the proletariat in the new historical conditions:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/giap/works/1975/to-arm-the-revolutionary-masses/ch01.htm

So it is not irrelevant to talk about the policies of individual nations. Marxists are historical materialists. Marxists watch closely both the pre-revolutionary and post-revolutionary countries for signs of change. You have to examine every variable from multiple standpoints, and not just look at it as an isolated category, but as a thing in flux with other things.

>>2294063
Protectionism can be good and there would be a degree of it under any Socialist government. However, Trump's tariffs are the absolute most fucktarded way to do it


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