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>>2291219>>2294370They're going to break gay marriage month and banning HRT at any age in many red states (blue states will disobey any federal laws or take it to court). They'll cite the BS studies they funded about how HRT is omegadangerous and definitely turning you into a crazy killer!! I think. They're frothing at the mouth for that W.
Gotta get out of this country, but these monsters are funding this bullshit globally.
>>2294394>the FBI "shouldn't" go after trans people periodThe argument goes:
>You can't consent to irreversible surgeries unless they're life threatning.<I WILL LITERALLY KILL MYSELF IF THEY DONT CUT OFF MY PENIS!>Smoke some weed then.<NOO MARIJUANA CAUSES SCHIZOPHRENIA>But you're already mentally ill<Reported for idpolNo, you literally have parents mutilating their kids, lgbt idpol has reached levels where parents force their ideals onto their children, talking about "having a 2 year old trans daughter" and planning surgeries.
Zhang Xiaogang, China's Ministry of Defense Spokesman:
For its own selfish interests, the US launches tariff wars and trade wars; forms 'small circles' and engages in bloc confrontation, causing deep concerns among countries; strengthens military deployments in the Asia-Pacific, rudely interferes in the internal affairs of other countries, and stirs up tensions.
Facts have repeatedly shown that the US, by going against the trend and acting willfully, will ultimately harm itself.
The Taiwan question is purely China's internal affair, and the US has no right to make irresponsible remarks, let alone attempt to use it as a bargaining chip to contain China.
The Chinese Army will resolutely safeguard national sovereignty and territorial integrity and firmly crush any Taiwan independence separatist plots and any external interference
The US, fearing no chaos in the South China Sea, forms cliques and stirs up trouble, posing the greatest threat to regional peace and stability.
China has always been a defender and builder of peace and development in the Asia-Pacific.
China will oppose hegemonism that harms the Asia-Pacific. China will prevent geopolitical conflicts from being introduced into the region. China will oppose any country or force that creates trouble here.
>>2294408People should be allowed to take HRT at any age past 11 because people should have the freedom to choose the body they have. If the argument is that kids could regret it, then kids shouldn't be allowed to go through 'natural' puberty as well because they could also regret it.
Nature is a spook. It's just an excuse to justify an existing status quo because people want LGBT people to be easily identifiable and thus easy to discriminate against.
>>2294418>people should have the freedom to choose the body they have.And with that logic they should also be able to get tattoos, handicap themselves and such under the pretext that "mental health is more important than physical harm".
Egoists have no say in anything, pedophilic antisocial fetishists.
>>2294426>people should be able to get tattoos or handicap themselvesAlready happens and it doesn't destroy society. Baby foxes eat their siblings. Nature has no morals.
Genetic modification and controlling your body's chemical levels from childbirth is the future. People who go against this are insane. China luckily, does not care about western morals and will happily modify the human genome to accomplish whatever goals they deem necessary.
>>2294434>doesn't destroy societySociety won't be destroyed even if everyone is an inbred, that doesn't justify inbreeding the slightest.
>Genetic modification and controlling your body's chemical levels from childbirth is the future. If it can be reversed, which it will, forcing irreversible shit or promoting it to kids which don't know any better is nothing short of human experiments.
>>2294435There's no reason to ban gay people when the state is already growing children in vats on an industrial level. The artificial womb is literally in our grasp. Nations and organizations will no longer be bound by demographics.
Again, you'll see this stuff banned in the west to PrOTeCt WoYmN!!1!!! while China grows a few million geniuses or soldiers to wipe out the west, lol.
>>2294439best character in the show, harming any member of the king of the hill cast is tantamount to crimes against this nation as a whole.
fucking bullshit man
>>2294440Only a small number of people actually regret it, but anyways who gives a shit about the people who regret it? They're such a small minority of an even smaller minority of people who actually transition.
If your enemy accuses you of being heartless, laugh and rip out theirs. Now you have a heart.
>>2294454Nobody gives a shit about irreversible damage. It's concern trolling. You live in a nation that murders kids for less.
Besides, the country laughs at detransers just as much as they do trans people. Young or not.
>>2294464Correct, the mutation rate of incest is lower than many. People who oppose incest on genetic arguments should also be for strong eugenics against all people, mass sterilizations, etc.
The vast majority of people are hylics who go along with whatever the people in power say is correct. It's worsened the worse your culture's education system is.
Some communities have begun doing this. They have liberated their territories and have established provisional governments. We recognize them, and say that these governments represent the people of China, North Korea, and the people in the liberated zones of South Vietnam, and the people of North Vietnam.
We believe their examples should be followed so that the order of the day would not be reactionary intercommunalism (empire) but revolutionary intercommunalism. The people of the world, that is, must seize power from the small ruling circle and expropriate the expropriators, pull them down from their pinnacle and make them equals, and distribute the fruits of our labor that have been denied us in some equitable way. We know that the machinery to accomplish these tasks exists and we want access to it.
https://viewpointmag.com/2018/06/11/intercommunalism-1974/>>2294508People should have the right to choose what body they have in life. Forcing someone to be male/female/etc because it's natural is worse than rape, because rape is a temporary coercion that can be resolved with an abortion, while having a societal and body forced upon you is more akin to throwing acid at someone's face or placing them into a caste system or cutting off their limbs as a punishment.
To nobody's surprise, all the transphobes are also very invested in bombing children worldwide, forcing kids into labor (sexual and physical, lmao), and generally do apartheid shit.
>>2294516>People should have the right to choose what body they have in life.When they're old enough to know what they want.
>Forcing someone to be male/female/etc because it's natural is worse than rape, because rape is a temporary coercion that can be resolved with an abortion,Rape leads to mental scarring and trauma, gender dysphoria is a product of the trauma caused by pink capitalism pushing for new "beauty standards". The only way irreversible early procedures can be justified is if they can be reversed. Body Integrity Identity Disorder can make a kid want to chop off their arm, the solution is not to let them chop off their arm but to be treated for the disorder, if all else fails they can decide if they want to cut it off once they can consent at 18.
>>2294527Gender dysphoria leads to worse trauma than rape, and often gets you placed in situations where you are raped.
People joke about how trans women will get raped in prison all the time, dude. The howling masses want it to happen as extrajudicial punishment for them.
>>2294539If I actually go by your "trans are mentally ill" logic, then your solution of letting mentally ill people get no treatment and ACK as a direct consequence sounds a bit heartless. It sounds reactionary, even.
If being trans is a mental illness then wouldnt treatment (HRT) be the conventional solution?
Whether you think transness is a harmless condition some people have or a mental illness, the solution remains the same.
I still remember my mom not buying some toys that I wanted because she said they were for girls and feeling my heart sink. At the time I didn't know why, but later I knew. I'm sorry but it's entirely possible and really not too uncommon for a kid to know they're trans. It's just the reality of it.
>>2294552Well lots of people do that, in fact lots of people play fe/male characters for the roleplay, not erotic even. This happened long before videogames as well. But it wasn't called dysphoria when one crossdressed for a tabletop meetup or played a girl in an MMO. Would you argue that drag is a form of escapism for gender dysphoria? Or that it falls into it's own category of "genderplay" or whatever.
I lean the second.
>BUT I NEED ITYes, hence the disorder.
>>2294560https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3476840/Antipsychotics literally make you retarded. That's how they work. They damage the brain just slightly until the individual can't perceive their mental illness as much. It's still there, though. It's no different than slicing someone's nerves so they can't feel pain in response to an aching foot. It's a horrific practice and they're used as an excuse not to explore other treatments that could benefit the patient better. Likewise, SSRIs aren't that great either. We could probably cure depression a lot easier with mushrooms and other 'illegal' drugs done on a pharmaceutical, low dosage, but all research gets shut down or fucked with.
It's just cleaner than lobotomies, so their use still persists.
>>2294569I was giving emphasis to the distinct feeling of how my real life having to socialize as a male was depressing to me compared to one in which I presented as woman and people thought I was one irl. That's not the same as just picking the girl character at all.
I don't know anything about drag queens.
>hence the disorderI don't think it's a disorder. But if it is, then shouldn't people that have a disorder get help? when people have any disorder it usually follows that they get treated. But people that see transness as a disorder advocate for lack of treatment. It doesn't add up.
>>2294591Yeah feeling bad because my mom didn't want me to have girly stuff was just le internet.
As for the MMORPG shit, nobody back in the day knew anything about transness. I naturally started presenting that way as soon as I had a place to. If there had been something like that irl, I would've gone for that. Given that my own mom treated me like a freak for wanting girl shit, it only follows that I'd look for a way to present that way far from a place in which I could get hurt.
>>2294578>>2294605
> 13 year old Timmy HRT when he knowsLet's make a list of which things 13 year old Timmy can be considered mature enough to decide.
>Being transgender and taking<Having sex<Their diet<Their sleeping hours<Drinking alcohol or using other regulated substances<Any financial responsibility<Almost any aspect of their own education<Politics<Other medical aspects which becomes opt-out if you are legally an adult<Just about any other aspect of which a doctor would consult with an adult firstlets keep going
>>2294607You are mentally ill.
When we claim that "God does not exist," we mean to deny by
this declaration the personal God of theology, the God worshiped
in various ways and divers modes by believers the world over, that
God who from nothing created the universe, from chaos matter,
that God of absurd attributes who is an affront to human reason.
With each new discovery of chemistry, physics, biology, the
anthropological sciences, of the practical application of sound
principles, dogma collapses. It is a part of that old edifice of
religion which crumbles and falls in ruins. The continuous progress
of the natural sciences now extending from city to country,
disperses the darkness of the Middle Ages, and the multitudes
desert the churches where from generation to generation they
betook themselves to pray to God—that monstrous product of
human ignorance.
Let us examine the nature of God. We force ourselves,
therefore, to reason in a vacuum, the God of religions being their
own image of their mental vacuum, the proof of the complete
absence of any activity in reasoning.
How can the idea of a creator be reconciled with the existence
of dwarfed and atrophied organs, with anomalies and
monstrosities, with the existence of pain, perpetual and universal,
with the struggle and the inequalities among human beings?
Epicurus, the philosopher who lived in Rome in the time of the
decadence of the Republic, posed the following questions:
"Either God wishes to do away with evil in this world and
cannot succeed; or he can do away with it and does not wish to; or
he cannot and does not wish to; or finally, he wishes to and can. If
he wishes to but has not the power, he is not all-powerful. If he has
the power to do away with evil and does not wish to, he is not
infinitely good. If, as affirm the deists, he can and wants to, tell
me, then, why does evil exist on earth, and why does not God
make it impossible?"
That which affronts human reason most is the inconceivable
fact of the creative power of a God who from nothingness created
everything, from chaos the universe. . . .
One would have to be completely without knowledge of
physiology, botany, and psychology to claim today the existence of
a "soul" independent of the body; on the contrary, one which does
not form one of the two distinct aspects of the unique human
nature.
Dogma is absurd because it presupposes immobility and the
absolute. Nothing in the world is absolute, everything is relative.
Nothing is entirely changeless, but there is a continual
transformation, a perpetual movement of forces.
Dogma presents to human reason an obstacle to progress
because it imposes limitations to the painful but salutary impulses
towards the search for truth, because it checks the free expansion
of all intellectual energy.
Science is now in the process of destroying religious dogma.
The dogma of the divine creation is recognized as absurd.
"Religion is the opium of the people."—Karl Marx.
It being demonstrated that religious dogma presents itself to the
human spirit and to rational criticism as "the absolute consecration
of the absurd," let us see why moral religion is "immoral."
The evangelists are ridiculous when, instead of studying the
Bible as a document of a certain historic interest, they try to credit
it with real life and bring to the masses the principles of Christ
(who perhaps never existed) as the ethical principles of a morality
everlastingly young, permanent, modern, in complete accord with
the present age. The Bible and morals called Christian are two
cadavers which the evangelists attempt to galvanize into life with,
it must be agreed, small enough success.
It is, therefore, clear that religious morality is one of
resignation and sacrifice, a morality which may be dear to the
weak, to the degenerate, to slaves, but which results in the
diminution of reason and human personality. It bends man toward
the earth, making him a slave to divinity. It favors the conservation
of those primitive sentiments which belong to that period of animal
life long left behind, and transforms the "thinking being" into a
"passive sheep" who lives in the fear of the universal judgment.
Religious morality shows the original stigmata of
authoritarianism precisely because it pretends to be the revelation
of divine authority. In order to translate this authoritarianism into
action and impose it upon humanity, the priestly caste of revealers
has sprung up and with it the most atrocious intolerance.
Certain it is that religion is a psychic disease of the brain, a
contraction, a tightening up of the individual who, if he is
profoundly religious, appears to us as abnormal.
The history of many saints, beatified by the church, is
repugnant. It shows nothing more than a profound aberration of the
human spirit in search of ultra-terrestrial chimeras; it is a delirium
which can attain the state of spasms of passion and which ends in
madness.
Therefore, many of those who today hover over the altars of
the Catholic Church are pathological cases, hysterics, déomanes
and demonomaniacs.
Even today in the more remote parts of Italy and Spain we can
witness similar phenomena, Saint January for the people of Naples,
and the Madonna of Lourdes for French bigotry. Are they not
analogous aberrations?
If we read the history of religions, we find that it deals with the
pathology of the human brain. If today the Middle Ages are retiring
into the thick shadows of convents, it is due to triumphant
skepticism; and if the epidemic disease of religion no longer
appears with the terrible intensity of former times, it is due to the
diminution of the political power of the Church which formerly
placed on the heads of people its cap of lead.
Religion presents itself to our eyes in another characteristic: the
atrophy of reason. The faculty by which man is differentiated from
the lower animals is his reasoning power. But the devout believer
renounces reason, refuses to explain the things which surround
him. the innumerable natural phenomena, because his religious
faith is enough for him. The brain loses the habit of thinking; and
this religious sottishness hurls mankind back into animalism.
In concluding we say that "religious man" is an abnormality
and that "religion" is the certain cause of epidemic diseases of the
mind which require the care of alienists.
Religion has shown itself in the open as the institution whose
aim is political power by which to externalize the exploitation and
the ignorance of the people.
>>2294628If choosing your gender is comparable to taking alcohol and fucking, then cis kids being comfortable in their cisness should also be comparable. Why isn't it?
Little Timmy is born as a boy and actually decides to live as a boy. Uhm so little Timmy can also choose to take heroin? checkmate.
>>2294652>most burgers born between 1910 and 1990 got benis snipped even if they weren't jewishI sleep
>some burgers choose to benis snip themselvesreal shit?
>>2294668i know it's cliche, but read joe slovo and vo nguyen giap for answers.
(I am not iron felix ban evading, I just read joe slovo and vo nguyen giap and did not regret it)
>>2294682fuck it im making overnight oats
>>2294680less than 20 hours last week, $83 pay check
>>2294660Weird way to word
<Timmy still can't decide on anything except a lifelong commitment to HRT and changing their genderOkay, I accept your concession.
For what it's worth I think it's perfectly fine and people should get all the help they need. I am pro trans kids despite bothering you online. It's not my body, so whatever.That said, you really were not able to add a single item. If I were you I would prepare better for that argument.
>>2294688The left of capital does the exact same shit
>THINK OF THE CHILDREN, THEY WILL LITERALLY KILL THEMSELVES IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SEX CHANGE SURGERYHAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS FOR MENTAL ISSUES? THE RELIGIOUS REACTIONARY VERMIN STAGNATE THE REAL MEDICINE, THE REAL MEDICINE AGAINST MENTAL ILLNESS IS RECREATIONAL DRUGS.
>MUH SCHIZOPHRENIA WEED>MUH PSYCHOSIS SHROOMSALL NEGATIVE EFFECTS CAN BE REMOVED IF THERE IS SUFFICIENT STUDY AND MODIFICATION, AS LONG AS THE WOD PERSISTS, SO WILL THE CONS OF DRUGS.
>>2294727>i brought up anti natalists, but i am not one.It's ok to be an anti natalist if you reside in the US or the west.
I didn't read the rest of your text.
>>2294732the fertility rate already tends to be lower in the imperial core and higher int he periphery
>it's ok to be anti natalistideology like anti natalism doesn't determine whether people reproduce or not, what determines whether people reproduce are material conditions, like whether you make a high enough wage to raise kids with an average quality of life, or whether birth control and contraception and sex education are available.
>>2294750>the fertility rate already tends to be lower in the imperial core and higher int he peripheryIt's not low enough to lead to a collapse.
>ideology like anti natalism doesn't determine whether people reproduce or notTrue, but it may have a slight influence on shooters.
>>2294753 (me)
They in san diego so they bourgeois which is probably why the pigs are going so easy in them here.
>>2294738the left will tell you the average american is a feral pig that needs to be put down and that YOU should take the grill pill while the fascists do anything they want.
meanwhile the american people are chanting SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! at ICE while de-arresting people. They should be chanting it at us, because it's clear we aren't able to step up to the plate in a time like this.
>>2294601gender?
religion?
the state?
it'll wither away under communism bruh
>>2294606>How is Lenin staying housed? How are party members staying fed? How are the funding things in the pre-party era?That's not that hard. Even the dumbest cult leaders like Gazi Kodzo and Maupin have done that.
>How did Iskra get spread via literal hand printed pamphlets while doing all of this?Different era. Less competition back then. There's a million little LARP groups you can join out there.
Anyways, this is why it's retarded to try and compare modern America to early 1900s Russia. In fact it would be stupid to compare early 1900s America to early 1900s Russia. That's why the communist movement took different turns and had different successes in Imperial Russia vs America.
>>2294966You are a liberal and support popular fronts in defense of liberal democracy, the bourgeoisie states as a pretext to "antifascism", when the only way to do away with fascism is through class war and the end of the capitalist mode of production.
the real enemy and foremost
danger was not Fascism, much less ᴉuᴉlossnW the man, but rather the anti-fascism that Fascism -
with all of its crimes and infamies - would have created. This anti-fascism would breathe life
into that great poisonous monster, a great bloc comprising every form of capitalist exploitation, along with all of its beneficiaries: from the great plutocrats down to the laughable ranks of the
half-bourgeois, intellectuals and the laity. Anti-fascism has only served as apologetics to the defense of the same bourgeoisie regimes which allow fascism to be birthed in the first place.
>>2294966The horrors of fascism were not the first of their kind, nor were they the last. Nor were they the worst, no matter what anyone says.1 These horrors were no worse than "normal" massacres due to wars, famines, etc. For the proletarians, it was a more systematic version of the terrors experienced in 1832, 1848, 1871, 1919… However, fascism occupies a special place in the spectacle of horrors. This time around, indeed, some capitalists and a good part of the political class were repressed, along with the leadership as well as the rank-and-file of the official working class organisations. For the bourgeoisie and the petit bourgeoisie, fascism was an abnormal phenomenon, a degradation of democratic values explicable only by recourse to psychological explanations. Liberal anti-fascism treated fascism as a perversion of Western civilisation, thereby generating an obverse effect: the sado-masochistic fascination with fascism as manifested by the collection of Nazi bric-a-brac. Western humanism never understood that the swastikas worn by the Hell's Angels reflected the inverted image of its own vision of fascism. The logic of this attitude can be summed up: if fascism is the ultimate Evil, then let's choose evil, let's invert all the values. This phenomenon is typical of a disoriented age.
The usual Marxist analysis certainly doesn't get bogged down in psychology. The interpretation of fascism as an instrument of big business has been classic since Daniel Guerin.2 But the seriousness of his analysis conceals a central error. Most of the "marxist" studies maintain the idea that, in spite of everything, fascism was avoidable in 1922 or 1933. Fascism is reduced to a weapon used by capitalism at a certain moment. According to these studies capitalism would not have turned to fascism if the workers' movement had exercised sufficient pressure rather than displaying its sectarianism. Of course we wouldn't have had a "revolution", but at least Europe would have been spared Nazism, the camps, etc. Despite some very accurate observations on social classes, the State, and the connection between fascism and big business, this perspective succeeds in missing the point that fascism was the product of a double failure; the defeat of the revolutionaries who were crushed by the social democrats and their liberal allies; followed by the failure of the liberals and social democrats to manage Capital effectively. The nature of fascism and its rise to power remain incomprehensible without studying the class struggles of the preceding period and their limitations. One cannot be understood without the other. It's not by accident that Guerin is mistaken not only about the significance of fascism, but also about the French Popular Front, which he regards as a "missed revolution."
Paradoxically, the essence of antifascist mystification is that the democrats conceal the nature of fascism as much as possible while they display an apparent radicalism in denouncing it here, there, and everywhere. This has been going on for fifty years now.
Boris Souvarine wrote in 19253 : "Fascism here, fascism there. Action Francaise – that's fascism. The National Bloc – that's fascism… Every day for the last six months, Humanite serves up a new fascist surprise. One day an enormous headline six columns wide trumpets: SENATE FASCIST TO THE CORE. Another time, a publisher refusing to print a communist newspaper is denounced: FASCIST BLOW… There exists today in France neither Bolshevism nor fascism, any more than Kerenskyism. Liberte and Humanite are blowing hot air: the Fascism they conjure up for us is not viable, the objective conditions for its existence are not yet realised… One cannot leave the field free to reaction. But it is unnecessary to baptise this reaction as fascism in order to fight it."
In a time of verbal inflation, "fascism" is just a buzz word used by leftists to demonstrate their radicalism. But its use indicates both a confusion and a theoretical concession to the State and to Capital. The essence of antifascism consists of struggling against fascism while supporting democracy; in other words, of struggling not for the destruction of capitalism, but to force capitalism to renounce its totalitarian form. Socialism being identified with total democracy, and capitalism with the growth of fascism, the opposition proletariat/Capital, communism/wage labour, proletariat/State, is shunted aside in favour of the opposition "Democracy"/ "Fascism", presented as the quintessence of the revolutionary perspective. Antifascism succeeds only in mixing two phenomena: "Fascism" properly so-called, and the evolution of Capital and the State towards totalitarianism. In confusing these two phenomena, in substituting the part for the whole, the cause of Fascism and totalitarianism is mystified and one ends up reinforcing what one seeks to combat.
We cannot come to grips with the evolution of capital and its totalitarian forms by denouncing "latent Fascism". Fascism was a particular episode in the evolution of Capital towards totalitarianism, an evolution in which democracy has played and still plays a role as counter-revolutionary as that of fascism, It is a misuse of language to speak today of a non-violent, "friendly" fascism which would leave intact the traditional organs of the workers' movement. Fascism was a movement limited in time and space. The situation in Europe after 1918 gave it its original characteristics which will never recur.
Basically, fascism was associated with the economic and political unification of Capital, a tendency which has become general since 1914. Fascism was a particular way of realising this goal in certain countries – Italy and Germany – where the State proved itself incapable of establishing order (as it is understood by the bourgeoisie), even though the revolution had been crushed. Fascism has the following characteristics:
1) it is born in the street; 2) it stirs up disorder while preaching order; 3) it is a movement of obsolete middle classes ending in their more or less violent destruction; and 4) it regenerates, from outside, the traditional State which is incapable of resolving the capitalist crisis.
Fascism was a solution to a crisis of the State during the transition to the total domination of Capital over society. Workers' organisations of a certain type were necessary in order to subdue the revolution; next fascism was required in order to put an end to the subsequent disorder. The crisis was never really overcome by fascism: the fascist State was effective only in a superficial way, because it rested on the systematic exclusion of the working class from social life. This crisis has been more successfully overcome by the State in our own times. The democratic State uses all the tools of fascism, in fact, more, because it integrates the workers' organisations without annihilating them. Social unification goes beyond that brought about by fascism, but fascism as a specific movement has disappeared. It corresponded to the forced discipline of the bourgeoisie under the pressure of the State in a truly unique situation.
The bourgeoisie actually borrowed the name "fascism" from workers' organisations in Italy, which often called themselves "fasces". It's significant that fascism defined itself first as a form of organisation and not as a program. Its only program was to unite everyone into fasces, to force together all the elements making up society:
"Fascism steals from the proletariat its secret: organisation… Liberalism is all ideology with no organisation; fascism is all organisation with no ideology." (Bordiga)
>>2295003>>2294966Dictatorship is not a weapon of Capital, but rather a tendency of Capital which materialises whenever necessary. To return to parliamentary democracy after a period of dictatorship, as in Germany after 1945, signifies only that dictatorship is useless (until the next time) for integrating the masses into the State. We are not denying that democracy assures a gentler exploitation than dictatorship: anyone would rather be exploited like a Swede than like a Brazilian. But do we have a CHOICE? Democracy will transform itself into dictatorship as soon as it is necessary. The State can have only one function which it can fulfil either democratically or dictatorially. One might prefer the first mode to the second, but one cannot bend the State to force it to remain democratic. The political forms which Capital gives itself do not depend on the action of the working class any more than they depend on the intentions of the bourgeoisie. The Weimar Republic capitulated before Hitler, in fact it welcomed him with open arms. And the Popular Front in France did not "prevent fascism" because France in 1936 did not need to unify its Capital or reduce its middle classes. Such transformations do not require any political choice on the part of the proletariat.
Hitler is disparaged for retaining from the Viennese social democracy of his youth only its methods of propaganda. So what? The "essence" of socialism was more to be found in these methods than in the distinguished writings of Austro-Marxism. The common problem of social democracy and Nazism was how to organise the masses and, if necessary, repress them. It was the socialists and not the Nazis who crushed the proletarian insurrections. (This does not inhibit the current SPD, in power again as in 1919, from publishing a postage stamp in honour of Rosa Luxemburg whom it had murdered in 1919.) The dictatorship always comes after the proletarians have been defeated by democracy with the help of the unions and the parties of the Left. On the other hand, both socialism and Nazism have contributed to an improvement (temporary) in the standard of living. Like the SPD, Hitler became the instrument of a social movement the content of which escaped him. Like the SPD, he fought for power, for the right to mediate between the workers and Capital. And both Hitler and the SPD became the tools of Capital and were discarded once their respective tasks had been accomplished.
Antifascism – the Worst Product of Fascism
Since the fascism of the inter-war period, the term "fascism" has remained in vogue. What political group has not accused its adversaries of using "fascist methods"? The Left never stops denouncing resurgent fascism, the Right does not refrain him labelling the PCF as the "fascistic party." Signifying everything and anything, the word has lost its meaning since international liberal opinion describes any strong State as "fascist." Thus the illusions of the fascists of the thirties are resurrected and presented as contemporary reality. Franco claimed to be a fascist like his mentors, Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW, but there was never any fascist International.
If today the Greek colonels and Chilean generals are called fascists by the dominant ideology, they nevertheless represent variants of the capitalist state. Applying the fascist label to the State is equivalent to denouncing the parties at the head of that State. Thus one avoids the critique of the State by denouncing those who direct it. The leftists seek to authenticate their extremism with their hue and cry about Fascism, while neglecting the critique of the State. In practice they are proposing another form of the State (democratic or popular) in place of the existing form.
The term "fascism" is still more irrelevant in the advanced capitalist countries, where the Communist and Socialist parties will play a central role in any future "fascist" State which is erected against a revolutionary movement. In this case it is much more exact to speak of the State pure and simple, and leave fascism out of it. Fascism triumphed because its principles were generalised: the unification of Capital and the efficient State. But in our times fascism has disappeared as such, both as a political movement and as a form of the State. In spite of some resemblances, the parties considered as fascist since 1945 (in France, for example, the RPF, poujadism, to some extent today the RPR) have not aimed at conquering an impotent State from the outside.4
To insist on the recurring menace of fascism is to ignore the fact that the real fascism was poorly suited to the task it took on and failed: rather than strengthening German national Capital, Nazism ended by dividing it in two. Today other forms of the State have come into being, far removed from Fascism and from that democracy we hear constantly eulogised.
With World War II, the mythology of Fascism was enriched by a new element. This conflict was the necessary solution to problems both economic (crash of 1929) and social (unruly working class which, although non-revolutionary, had to be disciplined). World War II could be depicted as a war against totalitarianism in the form of fascism. This interpretation has endured, and the constant recall by the victors of 1945 of the Nazi atrocities serves to justify the war by giving it the character of a humanitarian crusade. Everything, even the atomic bomb, could be justified against such a barbarous enemy. This justification is, however, no more credible than the demagogy of the Nazis, who claimed to struggle against capitalism and Western plutocracy. The "democratic" forces included in their ranks a State as totalitarian and bloody as Hitler's Germany: Stalin's Soviet Union, with its penal code prescribing the death penalty from the age of twelve. Everyone knows as well that the Allies resorted to similar methods of terror and extermination whenever they saw the need (strategic bombing etc.). The West waited until the Cold War to denounce the Soviet camps. But each capitalist country has had to deal with its own specific problems, Great Britain had no Algerian war to cope with, but the partition of India claimed millions of victims. The USA never had to organise concentration camps5 in order to silence its workers and dispose of surplus petits bourgeois, but it found its own colonial war in Vietnam. As for the Soviet Union, with its Gulag which is today denounced the world over, it was content to concentrate into a few decades the horrors spread out over several centuries in the older capitalist countries, also resulting in millions of victims just in the treatment of the Blacks alone. The development of Capital carries with it certain consequences, of which the main ones are:
1) domination over the working class, involving the destruction, gentle or otherwise, of the revolutionary movement; 2) competition with other national Capitals, resulting in war.
When power is held by the "workers'" parties, only one thing is altered: workerist demagogy will be more conspicuous, but the workers will not be spared the most severe repression when this becomes necessary. The triumph of Capital is never as total as when the workers mobilise themselves on its behalf in search of a "better life".
In order to protect us from the excesses of Capital, antifascism as a matter of course invokes the intervention of the State. Paradoxically, antifascism becomes the champion of a strong State. For example, the PCF asks us: "What kind of State is necessary in France today?… Is our State stable and strong, as the President of the Republic claims? No, it is weak, it is impotent to pull the country out of the social and political crisis in which it is mired. In fact it is encouraging disorder."6
Both dictatorship and democracy propose to strengthen the State the former as a matter of principle, the latter in order to protect us – ending up in the same result. Both are working towards the same goal – totalitarianism. In both cases it is a matter of making everyone participate in society: "from the top down" for the dictators, "from the bottom up" for the democrats.
As regards dictatorship and democracy, can we speak of a struggle between two sociologically differentiated fractions of Capital? Rather we are dealing with two different methods of regimenting the proletariat, either by integrating it forcibly, or by bringing it together through the mediation of its "own" organisations. Capital opts for one or the other of these solutions according to the needs of the moment. In Germany after 1918, social democracy and the unions were indispensable for controlling the workers and isolating the revolutionaries. On the other hand, after 1929, Germany had to concentrate its industry, eliminate a section of the middle classes, and discipline the bourgeoisie. The same traditional workers' movement, defending political pluralism and the immediate interests of the workers, had become an impediment to further development. The "workers' organisations" supported capitalism faithfully, but had kept their autonomy; as organisations they sought above all to perpetuate themselves. This made them play an effective counter-revolutionary role in 1918-1921, as the failure of the German revolution shows. In 1920 the social democratic organisations provided the first example of anti-revolutionary antifascism (before fascism existed in name).7 Subsequently the weight acquired by these organisations, both in society and in the State itself, mode them play a role of social conservatism, of economic Malthusianism. They had to be eliminated. They fulfilled an anti-communist function in 1918-1921 because they were the expression of the defence of wage labour as such; but this same rationale required them to continue to represent the immediate interests of wage earners, to the detriment of the re-organisation of Capital as a whole.
One understands why Nazism had as its goal the violent destruction of the workers' movement, contrary to the so-called fascist parties of today. This is the crucial difference. Social democracy had done its job of domesticating the workers well, too well. Social democracy had occupied an important position in the State but was incapable of unifying the whole of Germany behind it. This was the task of Nazism, which knew how to appeal to all classes, from the unemployed to the monopoly capitalists.
Similarly, the Unidad Popular in Chile was able to control the workers, but without gathering the whole of the nation around it. Thus it became necessary to overthrow it by force. On the contrary, there has not (yet?) been any massive repression in Portugal since November 1975, and if the current regime claims to be continuing the "revolution of the officers", it is not because the power of the working class and democratic organisations prevent a coup d' état from the Right. Left wing parties and unions have never prevented any such thing, except when the coup d'etat was premature, e.g. the Kapp putsch in 1920. There is no White terror in Portugal because it is unnecessary, the Socialist Party up to the present time unifying the whole of society behind it.
Whether it admits it or not, antifascism has become the necessary form of both working class and capitalist reformism. Antifascism unites the two by claiming to represent the true ideal of the bourgeois revolution betrayed by Capital. Democracy is conceived as an element of socialism, an element already present in our society. Socialism is envisaged as total democracy. The struggle for socialism would consist of winning more and more democratic rights within the framework of capitalism. With the help of the fascist scapegoat, democratic gradualism is revitalised. Fascism and antifascism have the same origin and the same program, but the former claimed to go beyond Capital and classes, while the latter tries to attain the "true" bourgeois democracy which is endlessly perfectible through the addition of stronger and stronger doses of democracy. In reality, bourgeois democracy is a stage in the taking of power by Capital, and its extension into the 20th century has resulted in the increasing isolation of individuals. Born as the illusory solution to the problem of the separation of human activity and society, democracy will never be able to resolve the problem of the most separated society in the whole of history. Antifascism will always end in increasing totalitarianism. Its fight for a "democratic" State will end in strengthening the State.
For various reasons, the revolutionary analyses of fascism and antifascism, and in particular the analysis of the Spanish Civil War which is a more complex example, are ignored, misunderstood, or regularly distorted. At best, they are considered as an idealist perspective; at worst, as an indirect support of fascism. Note, they say how the PCI helped ᴉuᴉlossnW by refusing to take fascism seriously, and especially by not allying itself with the democratic forces; or how the KPD allowed Hitler to come to power while treating the SPD as the principal enemy. In Spain, on the contrary, one has an example of resolute antifascist struggle, which might have succeeded if it hadn't been for the deficiencies of the Stalinists – socialists – anarchists (cross out the appropriate names). These statements are based on a distortion of the facts.
>>2295005>>2295003>>2294966Italy and Germany
In the forefront of the counter-truths, one finds a distorted account of the case where at least an important section of the proletariat struggled against fascism with its own methods and goals: Italy in 1918-1922. This struggle was not specifically antifascist: to struggle against Capital meant to struggle against fascism as well as against parliamentary democracy. This episode is significant because the movement in question was lead by communists, and not by reform socialists who had joined the Comintern, e.g. the PCF, or by Stalinists competing in nationalist demagoguery with the Nazis (like the KPD with its talk of "national revolution" during the early thirties). Perversely, the proletarian character of the struggle has allowed the antifascists to reject everything revolutionary about the Italian experience: the PCI, lead by Bordiga and the left communists at the time, is charged with favouring the coming to power of ᴉuᴉlossnW. Without romanticising this episode, it is worth studying because it shows without the slightest ambiguity that the subsequent defeatism of the revolutionaries regarding the war of "democracy" vs. "fascism" (Spanish Civil War or World War II) is not an attitude of purists insisting only on "the revolution" and refusing to budge until the Great Day. This defeatism was based quite simply on the disappearance, during the twenties and thirties, of the proletariat as a historical force, following its defeat after it had partially constituted itself at the end of World War I.
The fascist repression occurred only after the proletarian defeat. It did not destroy the revolutionary forces which only the traditional workers' movement could master by methods both direct and indirect. The revolutionaries were defeated by democracy which did not shrink from recourse to all the means available, including military action. Fascism destroyed only lesser opponents, including the reformist workers' move ment which had become an impediment to further development. It is a lie to depict the coming to power of Fascism as the result of street fights in which the fascists defeated the workers.
In Italy, as in many other countries, 1919 was the decisive year, when the proletarian struggle was defeated by the direct action of the State as well as by electoral politics. Up to 1922, the State granted the greatest freedom of action to the Fascists: lenience in judicial proceedings, unilateral disarmament of the workers, occasional armed support, not to mention the Bonomi memorandum of October 1921, which sent 60,000 officers into the Fascist assault groups to act as leaders. Before the armed fascist offensive, the State appealed… to the ballot box. During the workshop occupations of 1920, the State refrained from attacking the proletarians, allowing their struggle to exhaust itself with the help of the CGL, which broke the strikes. As for the "democrats", they did not hesitate to form a "national bloc" (liberals and rightists) including fascists, for the elections of May 1921. During June-July, 1921, the PSI concluded a useless and phoney "peace pact" with the fascists.
One can hardly speak of a coup d'état in 1922: it was a transfer of power. The "March on Rome" of ᴉuᴉlossnW (who preferred to take the train) was not a means of putting pressure on the legal government but rather a publicity stunt. The ultimatum which he delivered to the government on October 24 did not threaten civil war: it was a notice to the capitalist State (and understood as such by the State) that henceforth the PNF was the force most capable of assuring the unity of the State. The State submitted very quickly. The martial law declared after the failure of the attempt at compromise was cancelled by the King, who then asked ᴉuᴉlossnW to form the new government (which included liberals). Every party except the PCI and PSI came to terms with the PNF and voted for ᴉuᴉlossnW in parliament. The power of the dictator was ratified by democracy. The same scenario was reproduced in Germany. Hitler was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg (elected in 1932 with the support of the socialists who saw in him… a bulwark against Hitler), and the Nazis were a minority group in Hitler's first cabinet. After some hesitation, Capital supported Hitler since it saw in him the political force necessary to unify the State and hence society. (That Capital did not foresee certain subsequent forms of the Nazi State is a secondary matter.)
In both countries, the "workers' movement" was far from being vanquished by fascism. Its organisations, totally independent of the proletarian social movement, functioned only to preserve their institutional existence and were ready to accept any political regime whatever, of the Right or of the Left, which would tolerate them. The Spanish PSOE and its labour federation (UGT) collaborated between 1923 and 1930 with the dictatorship of Primo de Rivera. In 1932, the German socialist unions, through the mouths of their leaders, declared themselves independent of any political party and indifferent to the form of the State, and tried to reach an understanding with Schleicher (Hitler's unfortunate predecessor), then with Hitler, who convinced them that National Socialism would permit their continued existence. After which the German unionists disappeared behind the swastikas at the same time that May 1 1933, was transformed into the "Festival of German Labour." The Nazis proceeded to dispatch the union leaders into prisons and camps, which had the effect of bestowing on the survivors the reputation of being resolute "antifascists" from the first hour.
In Italy, the union leaders wanted to reach an agreement of mutual tolerance with the fascists. They contacted the PNF late in 1922 and in 1923. Shortly before ᴉuᴉlossnW took power, they declared:
"At this moment when political passions are exacerbated and two forces alien to the union movement (the PCI and PNF) are bitterly vying for power, the CGL feels its duty is to warn the workers about the interventions of parties or political regroupments aiming to involve the proletariat in a struggle from which it must remain absolutely aloof if it does not want to compromise its independence."
On the other hand, there was in February, 1934, in Austria, armed resistance by the left of the Social Democratic Party against the Forces of a State which showed itself increasingly dictatorial and conciliatory towards the Fascists. This struggle was not revolutionary in character, but arose from the fact that there had been practically no street battles in Austria after 1918. The most pugnacious proletarians (although not communists) had not been beaten, and had remained within social democracy which thus preserved some revolutionary tendencies. Of course this resistance broke out spontaneously, and did not succeed in coordinating itself.
The revolutionary critique of these events does not arrive at an "all or nothing" conclusion, as if one insisted on fighting only for "the revolution" and only at the side of the purest and toughest communists. One must struggle, we are told, for reforms when it is not possible to make the revolution; a well-led struggle for reforms prepares the way for the revolution: who can do more, can do less; but who cannot do less, cannot do more; who does not know how to defend himself, will not know how to attack, etc. All these generalities are missing the point. The polemic among Marxists, since the Second International, is not concerned with the necessity or worthlessness of communist participation in reformist struggles, which are in any case a reality. It is a matter of knowing if a given struggle places the workers under the control (direct or indirect) of Capital and in particular of its State, and what position the revolutionaries must adopt in this case. For a revolutionary, a "struggle" (a word leftists delight in) has no value in itself; the most violent actions have often ended in constituting parties and unions which have subsequently proved to be enemies of communism. Any struggle, no matter how spontaneous in origin or how energetic, which puts the workers under the dependence of the capitalist State, can have only a counter-revolutionary function. The antifascist struggle, which claims to search for a lesser evil (better to have capitalist democracy than capitalist fascism), is like abandoning the frying pan for the fire. Moreover, in placing oneself under the direction of a State, one must accept all the consequences including the repression which it will exercise, if required, against the workers and revolutionaries who want to go beyond antifascism.
>>2295041https://nypost.com/2025/06/02/entertainment/king-of-the-hill-star-jonathan-joss-suspected-killer-charged-with-murder/>While officers are still trying to determine the motive behind the fatal shooting, neighbors told TMZ that Joss and Alvarez Ceja have a long history of feuding and have allegedly been locked in verbal and physical fights in the past.
>On Sunday, the neighbors claimed the actor returned to his house to collect a victim’s fire fund check and found the skeleton of one of his beloved dogs that died in the fire.
>The image allegedly sent Joss into a rage, with eyewitnesses claiming he started yelling at anyone who crossed his path, including Alvarez Ceja, who lived two doors down.
>According to Joss’ neighbors, his rants were not uncommon. They claimed the police had been called on the actor several times before his house went up in flames earlier this year.
>They also alleged that Joss would often do weird things like bang pans from his rooftop in the middle of the night.
>Before the fire, Joss’ home was allegedly deemed unsafe and uninhabitable — which, neighbors claim, is why his power was shut off.
>The Post found a GoFundMe was started for Joss following the fire, which raised $10,721 for the actor.
>The page also revealed that his father built the home for his mother in 1957, and three of his dogs died in the blaze.https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-king-of-the-hill-actor-jonathan-joss-after-fire>No mention of arson >>2294903Yeah Iran
would tell you to kill gays instead of doing jack shit about Israel
>>2295081>So we're now at the point where random rightoids can walk up to a minority and murder them in broad daylight and rags will do the "he was no angel" bit.It sounds like there is more to the story and perhaps the actor and his husband weren't/aren't being entirely truthful. We'll see. The guy is charged with murder.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/06/02/murdered-actor-jonathan-joss-suspected-shooter-had-ongoing-dispute-neighbors-say/
>They say Joss, who made a name for himself voicing the character “John Redcorn” in the animated series, “King of the Hill,” also made his presence known in the neighborhood, and not always in a good way.
>Sigfredo Ceja Alvarez, 56, has been booked into the Bexar County jail on a charge of murder.
>It’s still unclear exactly what led to the shooting, although neighbors told KSAT 12 News the two men had ongoing tension between them.
>“Just different things. He would argue with different people,” said the unidentified neighbor. “It could be over dogs. It could be over trash.”
>Another neighbor who also spoke anonymously said Joss could be a polarizing figure, often involved in disputes with people up and down the street.
>“We would see him down the street yelling, ranting and raving,” she said. “Other times, he could be really sweet.”
>Several people there agreed that Joss was protective of his property, even after his home burned down.
>“He would come out. Maybe somebody would drive by his home,” the anonymous neighbor said. “He didn’t like people driving in front of his home.”Either way the man who killed him is a murderer, but it might not be about anything to do with them being gay even. That's why it's silly to try to work these random incidents into some kind of narrative before all the facts have even come out. That's what the right-wingers do.
>>2295109You clearly have no idea who Whitney Webb the author is if you think she is a democrat. Embarrassing
Try to read
https://unlimitedhangout.com/tag/palantir/ >>2295098you are deranged lmao somebody shot him in the street and is being charged with murder. just cause the guy who killed him was hispanic obviously doesnt mean he wasnt killed for being gay. theres not enough info to say what the motive was but at worst if he was an annoying neighbor starting an argument that doesnt mean he should be fucking executed. the husband claims they had recieved threats from the neighbors about burning their house down and reported it to the police, if those reports were filed it should come out in the trial. theres also no reason to assume the story about the dogs skeleton being put out on display is fabricated, would be a very odd thing to make up. all of this smells like "anti-woke" backlash giving the benefit of the doubt to gossip when theres just as much testimony right now indicating a homophobic murder
whatever it doesnt matter but youre a drooling retard for coming up out like "um akshully libtard the murderer wasnt white"
>>2295181Even if that's fake news, I see a lot of Hispanic guys with chuddy stickers on their trucks around here.
But I'd think Kanye's music video (or Indian wargasms and Israel dick-slurping T.V. slop that we were watching a few weeks ago on bloodcast) should be the biggest wakeup call to leftists that it's not actually the case that non-whites can't also be psychotic fascists. Non-whites are not your surrogate Jesus. They're just people with diverse interests and some of those people are not aligned with the left. It's unfortunate and white supremacy is real too BTW but that's not my point. There's also a dark possibility that some of these people on the left will be so traumatized by this revelation – as it becomes increasingly obvious as we barrel into the 21st century – that they'll turn into their opposite and become fascists themselves out of their ressentiment.
>>2295190>should be the biggest wakeup call to leftists that it's not actually the case that non-whites can't also be psychotic fascists.Non-White here. There was more to this whole Kanye saga that is lost on people and I kind of agree with him. It is really some sick shit about how Whites laud whatever "kill uyghurs" rap music while they are so sensitive about everything else. Like the DaBaby controversy before Kanye. Many Black commentators were puzzled about his mild statements not even directly at gays got him cancelled, while those same supposed fans sang along with him as he endlessly talked about killing uyghurs. I remember at the time, I was never a dababy listener, but I looked up his lyrics and he even had lines about making uyghurs his slaves and etc.
>Minstrel show shit that endorses killing uyghursLauded
<mentions anyone elseHate-crime.
>>2295194Just benefit of the doubt, what is the White person who sings along with uyghur murder lyrics justification?
>Oh that is just uyghur culture!<I appreciate uyghur culture!but like I said, they only appreciate it in narrow application. Only if the lyrics are solely about murdering uyghurs. If they target anyone else, they are quite upset.
>>2295194>I remember at the time, I was never a dababy listener, but I looked up his lyrics and he even had lines about making uyghurs his slaves and etc. Here is the line I was referenceing to let you make up your mind.
>The first uygha play, I'ma body a uygha (Ha)>I just checked my balance>I'll probably pull up to your hood>And come buy me a uygha (No cap)This is what he said that got him cancelled:
<"If you didn't show up today with HIV, AIDS, any of them deadly sexually transmitted diseases that'll make you die in two or three weeks, put your cellphone light in the air."
<"Ladies, if your p** smell like water, put your cellphone light in the air. Fellas, if you ain't suck a n d* in the parking lot, put your cellphone lights in the air. Keep it f** real."Did I lie? This is what his music was all about and all these fags and cunts sang along with it with no problem until he said the orange text.
>>2295194Yeah you gotta point there.
>>2295198>"Fellas, if you ain't suck a n d* in the parking lot, put your cellphone lights in the air. Keep it f** real.I'd think it be funnier to be like "did any men here suck a dick in the parking lot before the show!?!?!" in a growly metal voice. Dead silence in the crowd. Then one guy shouts: "YEAAAAH." Then the band starts playing.
>>2295203>San antonio man wasnt a fascist.I didn't say he was. That wasn't my point.
>>2295282>So what are you saying? Lol. Just that A is ok but B isn't ok?no, I'm obviously saying both are bad
> I'm not crying for the Jews and their non-persecution.lol ok, hitler saw slavs and black people as subhuman too. heiling hitler to make da jooz mad is literally peak dumbass behavior. cutting off your nose to spite your face type shit
>>2295466heart status: hardened
attacks status: increased
Am american liberal Jewish Zionist did an article today in NYT blaming people like progressives for not speaking up about anti-Semitism in regards to that Colorado event and the shooting in dc
The top replies are way better than you could ever expect. Times he changing lads
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/03/opinion/antisemitism-jewish-attacks-colorado.html>>2295626THE JEWISH PEOPLE NO LONGER NEED YOUR PITY! ONLY YOUR
FEAR!!!
>>2295643this is the fucking guy who said we would be enslaved by the neoliberals
now we're being enslaved by neoliberals and he's unconcerned
>>2295643the best way to understand Alex Jones is that he is Compatible Politics. You have compatible left like "The Squad" which sheepdogs people back into the demokkkratic party fold. Likewise you have "Compatible Right" like Alex Jones which gives rightoids a "safe" outlet for their schizo shit while still sheepdogging them back into the Republikkkan party.
This is why Alex Jones got so uncomfortable when Kanye came on in the ski mask and started heiling Hitler. Jones wanted to give Kanye a "safe edgy" outlet and kept giving Kanye chances to say that he was merely joking to trigger the libs, etc. but Kanye wouldn't do it.
>>2294378>They should go after circumcision as well.reminder that Zionist settlers use sniper rifles to shoot the genitals of children in Palestine
>>2294419>Notice how all of this "trans youth" shit is concentrated in the west, especially in the US, it is a societal trend, it is cultural. Billions of people in China and yet none have cried out for it. It is isolated.I read some Brazil discourse about this awhile ago, but its not about trans stuff its more like parental rights vs the rights of teens. No one cares about trans college students because their legal rights are clearly defined and not in conflict with bourgeois social relations like the "family unit"
>>2294794>start making conspiracy theories like a bunch of people just randomly showed up like half an hour ago because the trans topic came up.There's nothing random about 4chan degenerates having their Hitler particles activated, that's exactly what I expect from this forum!
>>2295656>>2295643Jones is such an obvious op.
He has family members in the FBI that he meets with annually for holiday dinners.
>>2294454>irreversible damageNo, humans are not damaged. You use words that describe objects because you are a liberal who looks at a person and can only think of their value as a capitalist commodity
>>2294435>gay shit in general is only possible due to western cultural imperialism<White settler colonialists literally believe the only reason their colonized slave workers have sex and love each other is because the white man taught themYou are like that degenerate Bert Kreischer who made that unfunny Orientalist movie about teaching Russians how to party. No one is Russia knows what love is!
>>2295701no, it doesn't imply that at all
it means that it's the same people ruling both countries, and they are zionists
>>2295697nono obviously the tail wags the dog.
Although,frankly at this point, Zionazois promoting antisemitic tropes and recycling them against Arabs is just gotten to absurd they may as well stop. We got actual Nazism being normalized at the same time the Zionist lobby cries genocidal crocodile tears. And the unofficial vice president throwing Sieg Heils on inauguration day.
IDK. I feel like propaganda is pushing in two contradictory directions of expanding the definition of "antisemitism" to any arbitrary thing while also narrowing it down to antizionism. To the point that actual neonazis get a pass because they didn't say anything negative about Israel specifically.
>>2295707sleepy joe biden is a republican meme, and it's true, joe biden is a senile old fuck who falls asleep in the middle of conversations
>>2295709it keeps "america" rich, with "america" here meaning the zios selling/receiving weapons
oh, and also the israelis (as in israeli citizens) since america pays for their military, healthcare, research, etc
not for american citizens though
>>2295727It is a material truth. Just as exploiting Ukraine and keeping the war going in Ukraine keeps America rich. Just as supporting the Saudis, despite them encouraging wahabism, keeps America rich.
But no, it's da joos or something. Not imperialism. Da joos.
>>2295793You believe the reason Sheldon adelson gave Trump 300 million dollars between 2016 and 2020 is due to capitalistic beliefs? Or Miriam giving him 150 million in 2024. Due to capitalism?
If so I am sorry you are actually mentally challenged man
>>2295756I've told you one year ago that if you want to believe that israel is a puppet of the US, and not the inverse, you'd have to look who's in the trenches dying in Gaza trying to kill Palestinians.
it isn't the US soldiers.
man, you almost have gotten all right, except for this reasoning.
>>2295850bro why won't you say zog bro, it's an accurate descriptor bro, who cares if neo nazis used it as a dog whistle for decades bro, no bro you're not a communist if you talk about the israeli lobby, that's not going hard enough bro, you have to say zog bro, please just say zog bro, say zog bro, please say zog bro, bro you have to say zog bro, you're not a communist if you don't say zog bro,
if you don't say zog you're literally stopping me from saying zog bro >>2295914exactly
ukkkranazi occupied government
afrikkkaner occupied govt.
falun gong occupied govt.
taiwanese occupied govt.
scientologist occupied govt.
mormon occupied govt.
NATO occupied govt.
etc etc etc
>>2295931>>2295936There's no "revolution" in endorsing politicians running inside a reformist system however it is absolutely telling that
she won't even do that much. It would be an easy PR slam dunk for her. I just searched her twitter and she has literally never tweeted his name out… except one time in 2021 when she was shouting out to a bunch of organizers
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