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Personally, I think the proletarianization of the media, the academy and tech is based.

I want every writer, professional and code-monkey to be an immiserated prole who hates capitalism with a burning fire.

It starts small with generic anti-capitalism snuck in here and there. A generic fight against "the system" which can easily hijacked by fascism. But how long can the pressures of ideology hold against the falling rate of profit? The industrialization of knowledge production is inevitable. And sure the bosses will try to exercise control (as they do) and plenty of workers will be fired and have their work rewritten. But why bother censoring yourself when you're making minimum wage anyway?

So how will the bourgeoisie hold power when the workers are exposed to blatant Marxist propaganda everyday?

When the propagandists are as immiserated as the coal miners then the propaganda will reflect the interests of the miners, not the bourgeoisie.

Proletarianization is never a bad thing for communists.

>So how will the bourgeoisie hold power when the workers are exposed to blatant Marxist propaganda everyday?
Oh you're stupid.

They already were though, it's just now contrarians won't be able to deny it.

>>2296575
Piggies are going to get proled too. Not directly, but the piggies are going to be drowning in debt eventually. It's just how inflation and so on work.

>>2296578
I'm just saying that eventually schoolteachers will start saying fuck it when the text books talk about the USSR and tell kids that no the USSR was based actually. It's just how proletarianization works.

>>2296572
it doesnt matter. they're like the pope who condomed railways as the devil's chariots. scribes who dammed the printing press. or the luddites who smashed the spinning jennies.

>>2296594
Altman won't give you an NFT for hyping ASSSRI by 2026, China has already surpassed OpenAI by orders of magnitude and have more grounded expectations and goals.

Whatever is useful will continue to exist.

Media and Academia, instead of being for-profit, will just be directly funded and continue their functions of propagandization. In fact its arguable that this has already taken place to an extent.

>>2296614
The contemporary state was basically created to collect debts. The entire purpose of the state is to safeguard financial instruments and reduce debts.

Employees of the state are indirectly exploited by money capital (so basically the federal reserve).

>>2296594
Generalizing an entire group of people like that is a very dangerous form of idealism, one that I can assure you you've picked up from social media.

>>2296697
Exceptions always prove the rule anarchoid firstoid individualoid

>>2296700
>Exceptions always prove the rule
I don't see how. On the contrary, if I were to posit, for example, that all swans are white, and you showed me a black swan, anyone even remotely familiar with deductive reasoning would tell you that I've been proven wrong.

>anarchoid
I am not an anarchist. If I were, I would have used the anarchist flag.
>firstoid
Yes, but I don't see how that effects my ability to make an argument.
>individualoid
I'm more collectivist than the vast majority of people on this site. I believe that representative politics must be, as much as practically possible, replaced with direct democracy, since otherwise you end up with a political underclass that is oppressed by a small handful of individuals acting in self-interest. This does not mean the elimination of the state, or even all political authority, but the public must at all times have the final say, not some egoist asshole.

>>2296736
participatory democracy gigachad is speaking
listen and learn

>>2296736
Participatory democracy is neither desirable nor practical, people already burn themselves out with work and home maintenance, asking them to alienate EVEN MORE of their time from what they actually want to do to participate in politics is hostile and narcissistic

>>2296781
>Just elect an aristocracy bro

>>2296572
That's pretty much what's happening under the neoliberal era of capitalism (1971-present) and workers didn't rise up. In fact, anticommunism got larger and far rightists grew stronger.

>>2296786
Nobody wants to go to meetings every week, they just want shit to work without having to think about it

>>2296781
>Participatory democracy is neither desirable
I think it's highly desirable. The further you get from participatory democracy, the more of an asymmetry you see in terms of political interests. A citizen has the interests of a citizen.
>nor practical
Depends how it's implemented, see below.

>>2296826
>Nobody wants to go to meetings every week
There's a million ways to implement participatory democracy most of which don't involve people going to meetings every week. As just one example, Paul Cockshott made a pretty solid proposal here: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/socialism-and-direct-democracy/

>>2296861
>citizen

>>2296990
I don't see how the use of the word "citizen" makes invalid my argument.

its interesting that marxists and capitalists want the same thing isnt it?


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