/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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>>2315989
No, Stalin did make mistakes. For example, he disbanded the Comintern.

>>2315989
Except Stalin DID do something wrong. He showed too much mercy in my opinion. If Stalin had the balls to exterminate all the rich peasants then maybe shit would’ve turned out better.

>>2315989
He was rude and disrespectful to Tito's wife and just mishandled that whole thing. Like what was the deal

>>2315989
He didn't purge Khrushchev and his supporters. Left Tito alive. Didn't reabsorb Ukraine. Gave up West Berlin.
Doctors Plot was unironically real but he didn't get rid of the conspirators before they killed him.

>>2316023
Bet big money she was into it and that's why Tito was offended.

>>2316015
Com intern was led by a load of retards

He disbanded the comintern, cleared out the retards and created the cominform

Stalin must have reached the conclusion that, under its revisionist leadership, the Comintern had ceased to be of any use as an organ of the socialist revolution. That Stalin and the Marxists-Leninists did not agree that a real international was no longer necessary is shown by the fact that in 1947, on Stalin's personal initiative, a new Marxist-Leninist international, on a restricted basis, was set up in the shape of the Communist Information Bureau, or Cominform, under a new leadership which excluded Dimitrov and Manuilsky. It is significant that the first acts of the Cominform were to express strong criticism of the revisionist lines of such communist parties as those of France, Italy, Japan and, later, Yugoslavia.
Such, in summary, is Stalin's relationship with the Third Communist International. After a period of militant involvement, Stalin was prevented from active leadership, and excluded from effective influence, since the late twenties. He cannot therefore be held accountable for the prevailing revisionist distortions related to sectarian ultra-left tactics and then unprincipled united fronts. Stalin's political "isolation" was equally reflected within the CPSU(B) after the war. Having confined him to "harmless" activities such as writing on linguistics and economics, concealed revisionists orchestrated his death before being able to betray the working class and fully restore capitalism in the Soviet Union.

https://ml-review.ca/aml/Comintern/ALLIANCE36-CI-NS.htm

>>2316034
Really bitch? Do you think Madame Broz was going to dump the chad Tito for that black-toothed manlet? Ugh!

>>2315989
bump

>>2316049
I'm half joking but she wasn't married to Tito in 1948, she was only officially a secretary and Tito was in his late 50s. So what if Stalin tried hitting on her?

>>2316074
The meme is very unclear.
>Communists were placed where they belonged:
>Firing squad
In the firing squad? Or in front of it?

>>2316091
yes.
he killed libs and conservatives(based) but also some commies thanks to leftists infighting(cringe).

>>2316091
>>2316103
in front

>>2315989
>but all his purges and his"paranoia" which was just propaganda, were totally justified

There was no justification for most of them beyond skeptical assumptions backed by initially little to no evidence and confessions gained by -unconventional- methods that were deemed to be just enough

Great Purge, aka most of the executions occured post Sergei Kirov's assasination were a mistake
The Union lost its brightest generals & dearest sons

>>2316106
show who killed them, communists.

STALINU SLAVA
IN A WORLD OF CHIMPANZEES, ONLY HE WAS MAN

>>2316106
bukharin lost, kamenev lost, trotsky lost, all of those terrorists lost

>>2316510
Stalin is guilty of winning <3

Maybe this Stalin guy wasn't so bad after all(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2316533
>he hecking hated the gays guys.
yawn.

im not "anti-stalin" and support the active criticism of the worst slanders & minsinformations uncritically accepted and actively promoted by bourgeois historians. but believing that stalin did not make any serious mistakes requires believing that so many other communists during and after the revolution were liars spies and frauds that successfully infiltrated and worked for the dissolution of the revolution for so long that if stalin made no mistakes, the rest of us people who make mistakes and do things wrong will not be able to hope to prevent that. and/or that there were such fundamental problems with the USSR that even someone who made no or very few mistakes could not course correct. and/or that even with the most principled, pragmatic, & intelligent communists leading the USSR it couldnt overcome some essential human tendency towards entropy & corruption.

all of these seem to me like demoralizing, obfuscatory, nihilistic and plainly wildly implausible things to believe, that if taken seriously can only lead to anticommunism. they also mirror the convictions of the craziest trots that deify trotsky. i dont nearly know or have the means or intention to judge every action stalin took or every event in the USSR at that time, i dont read russian or have access to the soviet archives and even if i did it would take a lifetime of study to form an independent and informed opinion. so ill work with what i have in terms of secondary & tertiary sources keeping in mind all the potential flaws with that information, & contextualize them against broader history and the fact that stalin was a single human who very likely made serious mistakes & misjudgements while possessing enormous political influence.

He was 70% good 30% bad

>>2316660
This

>>2316660
>I haven't read Marx so I'm led to nihilism if my state capitalist strong man fails
>if I quit idealism I'll end up a liberal
Good new you're already one

>>2316703
you are twisting yourself in knots tryiny to put any of that in my mouth, what post did you even read? how did you get "I'm led to nihilism if my state capitalist strong man fails" from me saying 'if you convince yourself stalin had no flaws and made no mistakes youre setting yourself up for nihilism bc it involves believing the wildly implausible without any reasonable standard of evidence [so you effectively abandon the means or will to evaluate the world and history]'?

>>2316660
You know that leftcoms put less blame on Stalin than you do? No real Marxist takes the collapse of the USSR as evidence that Stalin wasn't perfect as if to imply that if only a greater man was in charge the world would be communist right now.

The Russian revolution lost when it failed to become international. Stalin and other opportunist Bolsheviks made due with what they cemented this defeat through counter-revolution. It isn't that Stalin failed to press the socialism button, there wasn't one to begin with and Stalin had to play around this fact with stuff like "socialism in one country" which sounds like your mom's equivalence of shutting you up for demanding something.

>>2316805
>leftcoms put less blame on Stalin than you do?

idk what you mean by this. i do know that btw, but i think leftcom analyses give far too little role for contingencies of human behavior. they put less blame on everybody.

and im not "putting blame on stalin" for USSR's circumstances, im saying i attribute to him far less influence than both his most ardent furr type apologists & trotsykist detractors, but far more influence than mechanistic leftcoms

>>2316805
The russian revolution was doomed from the moment the Bolsheviks defeated the Anarchists. There‘s a reason authoritarian communism is called „State-capitalism“ among them, and in my opinion they are right about that.

>>2318690
Hue and cry

>>2315989
He was far too nice to his enemies, trying to cozy up with imperialist nations during WW2 and also leaving Khrushchev alive pretty much messed everything up.
>>2316106
Funny how Lenin is still alive, the only guy on this chart who actually matters. I don't really have time to debunk this slop so I will just laugh at you.