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>>2316037 >>2316998Let's
Go
Bomb
Tel-Aviv
>>2317017Mig-29's taking off.
I mean why can't they get better jeets? Those things are old.
>>2317017Netanyahu is stating he had to bomb Iran because otherwise there would be a Holocaust
…while committing a Holocaust against Gaza
>>2317021>I mean why can't they get better jeets>jeetslol
anyway yeah they should upgrade to something like an F35
BREAKING:
Reports of explosions at the airport in Baghdad where U.S. forces are stationed.
It’s possible that Iranian proxy groups in Iraq auch at Kata’ib Hezbollah are attacking U.S. forces
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1933327309869658474>>2317051IIIIIITS
W
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THREEEE
>>2317086>>2317047I thought easily the Arab countries were worse, but then remembered how easily Putin could have stopped this by just putting Iran under the nuclear umbrella. Instead it's just hapless "strategic partnerships" and planes/AD that never get delivered.
>>2317070Imagine my surprise, when I found it was actually on a larger, orange cat
>>2316895>IDF says its strikes tonight are part of a campaign ('Operation Strength of a Lion') aimed at neutralizing Iran's nuclear program. It says Iran had sufficient enriched uranium for "multiple bombs" & this represented an "imminent danger."see this is what I was saying the other day on here, they keep saying "iran's nuclear program" literally omitting that it's a nuclear POWER program. for years the IAEA would go in and verify they aren't making nukes and slowly drip-feeding them their own money back (frozen by imperialists in the international banking system), in exchange for what? for them not making nukes? No! they weren't making them in the first place! In exchange for them hamstringing their own nuclear POWER program which they need for their mountains country.
BUT EVERY FUCKING STUPID BURGER BELIEVES THEY'RE BRISTLING WITH NUKES BECAUSE THE FUCKING TV SAYS "NUCLEAR PROGRAM" OVER AND OVER. MY OWN FAMILY ARGUED WITH ME WHEN I SAID IRAN DOESN'T HAVE NUKES? WHY BECAUSE ALL THE TV BURGER REICH ZIONAZI TV STATIONS SAY "IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM" OVER AND OVER IN MENACING TONES.
>>2317100Youll have sex with her in the afterlife. God will resurrect you.
Revelation 21:3,4 also that scripture in john about resurrection.
>>2317095Based.
>>2317095Truly the fate of the world proletariat rests upon a neoliberal nationalist great man allying with a neoliberal democratic theocracy
If only Marx could've foretold such dialectics
>>2317171>I dunno anon, have the unusual whales ever been wrong before?Yeah I'm not seeing shit on CNN.
>>2317160Fuck reposting these twitter jeets who claim that some source is claiming X but don't link to it, like they have some insider at CNN.
>>2317187This is uncharacteristically neutral given how much Rubio loves to suck Israel's cock.
Even he knows how much of a shitstorm this could cause.
>>2317200you fucking retard wait a couple of days before this shit
fuck you
>>2317201remember that dead children are a feature not a bug
Israel considers anyone not Israeli to be subhuman, in their view they are culling pests
>>2317196Israel hasn't claimed shit like that. That is some random twitter screenshot. Israel has been very accurate about who they've killed. Nobody they've claimed they've killed since Oct 7 ever came out and made a video. I remember when they killed Sinway everyone was going for a whole day:
>ISRAEL IS LYING!!!Until Hezbollah had to come out and admit he's dead because he can't come out and make a video saying he's alive.
Judge rules Trump’s Guard deployment in Los Angeles is illegal
U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer ordered the president to return control of the Guard to Gov. Gavin Newsom
A federal judge has ordered President Donald Trump to relinquish control of California’s National Guard troops, ruling that the president’s deployment to Los Angeles amid immigration protests was illegal and unconstitutional.
The civil unrest accompanying those protests fall “far short of ‘rebellion,” U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer ruled, concluding that Trump’s attempt to equate the “sporadic” violence over the weekend to an organized uprising were specious. On Saturday, Trump cited a federal statute allowing him to use the National Guard to suppress the “danger of a rebellion” or to “execute” federal laws when “regular forces” are unable to do so.
“While Defendants have pointed to several instances of violence, they have not identified a violent, armed, organized, open and avowed uprising against the government as a whole,” Breyer concluded in a 36-page opinion. “The definition of rebellion is unmet.”
The ruling is an extraordinary rebuke of Trump’s unprecedented use of the military to support federal immigration authorities as they carry out deportation raids amid volatile protests in Los Angeles. That order resulted in a decision by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to deploy 4,000 California National Guard troops to Los Angeles this week. Those troops have since helped protect federal buildings and immigration officials as they carried out deportation efforts.
Breyer put his ruling on hold until noon Friday and the administration quickly appealed the decision to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/12/donald-trump-national-guard-deployment-illegal-00404451>>2317092spooked religitard it's our job to fight these people. stop waiting for jesus to come back and do it for you
>>2317369pick up a gun. you're fighting flesh and blood reactionaries not demons ghosts goblins and ghouls
FUCKING ABRAHAMOIDS!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2317244bourgeois democracy handed hitler czechoslovakia on a silver platter
bourgeois democracy laughed as leopold ii lopped off the hands of congolese children
bourgeois democracy doesn't give a fuck about zionist insanity
bourgeois democracy bankrolls zionist insanity to the tune of billions
>>2317339Most of the modern US military is just pressing buttons.
They don't need to institute a draft.
>Tabriz, a city located in northern western Iran with an Azeri population and a center of commerce, is currently under attack at least five explosions heard, according to Iranian media.
>The commander in chief of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Hossein Salami has been killed in the Israeli strikes, Iranian state television reports. The deputy commander of Iran’s armed forces, Gen. Gholamali Rashid, and Fereydoun Abbasi, a nuclear scientist, have also been killed, it adds.
>Iran’s state news agency IRNA reported that at least a dozen civilians were killed in the Israeli strikes in Tehran alone.
>Israel attacked at least six military bases around Tehran, including Parchin, and residential homes at two highly secure complexes for military commanders and multiple residential buildings around Tehran, in what appears to be targeted assassinations, according to four senior Iranian officials.
>>2317495That's true but they need significantly less people than with ye olden warfare.
Also believe it or not current recruiting numbers are comparable to post-9/11 levels. There was a surge not long before the election.
>>2317592Extremely tiny.
The only reason the US would do it is for irrational aesthetic/political reasons. (Which granted is Trump's wheelhouse, hence why the chance is tiny and not zero.)
Strategically it would be godawful. The military does not have the capacity to train so many new recruits. They are already struggling to keep up with just volunteer numbers.
Throwing more bodies is also unnecessary given how modern warfare works. You're not riding into battle on a horse and spearing people to death, you're pressing a button 100000 miles away to fire a missile from a drone.
>>2317687<“I think the American people would want the Pentagon to have plans for any particular contingency,” Hegseth responded.bruh imagine if they tried to stage a false flag attack from fucking GREENLAND
It would be too ridiculous for even most of MAGA to swallow.
>>2317687>Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., harshly questioned HegsethDemocrats holding people accountable.
>>2317700>>2317711Why even bother pretending they were attacked. Just spread a bunch of memes that show Denmark as a weak pussy crying in a corner as chad America fucks anthropomorphized Greenland while flipping off China.
Have Trump make some joke about it then never talk about it again. Entire story will die under a week.
100% serious here. Denmark isn't going to war over Greenland no matter what they say.
What do we know?
We know that Iran has been hit by a missile. Who launched this missile? Israel launched this missile. We know that the missile was targeting civilians in Iran’s capital, Tehran.
So, we know that Israel fired a missile preemptively, and Israel has called this a "preemptive strike"—meaning they are striking first and openly escalating the situation. But they are doing so by targeting civilians in an apartment building.
We also know that Marco Rubio has pushed out a press release, basically stating: "Look, we have nothing to do with this strike. We did not authorize this strike. Israel is taking full responsibility." But as we all know, America and Israel are effectively in lockstep. There is essentially no way Israel carried out this action—without U.S. intelligence, military, or CIA involvement—without some connection to the American imperial apparatus, because Israel is a tool of that apparatus.
What we are seeing is an empire and its outpost in their death throes. Imperialism only works if you have war. Fascism and settler colonialism only work if you have land to expand into—whether it’s Manifest Destiny, Lebensraum, or the Greater Israel Project. They are looking to provoke the situation to justify more violence—the same way the imperialist sends his ICE thugs to escalate things on our streets, that is what the imperialist regime seeks to do with these missile strikes on Iran.
We’ll keep people updated as this situation unfolds. Join our discord to get by the minute updates. This is breaking news.
>>2317839>>2317753It turned public support for Tump's immigration rhetoric negative for the first time ever.
Of course, I guess anarchists wanted to throw more rocks at cars. That's the point of it right? Rocks, cars.
>>2317858The US political establishment, if you haven't noticed, has totally abandoned immigrant communities to the point where they have allowed a gestapo like federal gang to terrorize them. They have done this under advisement of poll readers who told them it was popular, and that immigration was unpopular, and that ICE raid were extremely popular.
You will never, ever stop ICE by throwing rocks at cars. Ever. ICE will be stopped when ICE becomes polls show that ICE is -5% with indepdent voters.
>>2317820For decades AFL-CIO has been kicking out and undermining leftists while being corporate America's biggest collaborator. It's better to have unions than not but this is chickens coming home to roost here.
>>2317865>ICE will be stopped when ICE becomes polls show that ICE is -5% with independent voters.That's just one enforcement agency. Real question is what will it take to get rid of America's secret police, the FBI? Hint: it's not opinion polls.
>>2317872What is it with Trots and newspapers? Stop wasting money and paper.
>>2317820Sorry little AFL-CIO, you served your purpouse
<Throws it to the big bad blenderLOL
>>2317649Israels(not "the yids") is doing everything whitoids have done when invading other civilizations
>>2317908They are also doing what the nazis did too
>>2318043but I don't get the point
since the 8chan days /pol/ has come here pretending to be "leftists" and it always sticks out like a sore thumb, and it's hard to tell the intention because they really do think everyone here worships the dnc
it's a projection on how they always crawl back to trump, since he bombed syria in 2017 since he made it obvious for the 50th time he was working for Israel, it's a projection of their cult of personality
>>2318054>Nuclear Iranian RegimeTHEY DON'T HAVE A SINGLE FUCKING NUKE
HOW DO THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS LIE
THEY ENRICH URANIUM FOR THEIR NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS BECAUSE THEY'RE A MOUNTAINOUS COUNTRY
PISSRAHELL IS LITERALLY CAUSING A BUNCH OF CHERNOBYL LEVEL EVENTS IN IRAN RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>2318054You ever think about how it's so easy to kill this whore. She literally handcuffed herself to the twitter hq like ten years
I am not advocating to kill her btw free speech kash patel
>>2318082THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM JOE SLOVO!!!!
COMMUNIST PARTY VICTORY!!!!!!!!
>>2318132HELLUVA BOSSES put
SHIT in my
PANTS at the
SHIT HOLDING CONTEST I'm not sure which I hate more:
>Liberals who insist on blaming Trump on Russia and excusing "real conservatives">Liberals who respond with glee when Trump's policies hurt people because they think it's righteous vengeance for not voting for Kamala>>2318054Palestine has a right to defend itself from the genocidal nuclear Israeli regime.
>>2318078Just like they think leftists are all subservient to jews and yet hasbara shit is way more common in right wing, even neonazis, spaces
reminds me of this old fucking "open borders for israel" campaign they tried to to 10years ago while never fucking talking about the apartheid and shit god these people are all zionist robots
>>2318179zionist status quo affirming bullshit. Everything it says is wrong therefore the opposite it says is correct
Leviticus 25:44-46
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
>>2318195I think they're way too fucking retarded to understand shit. Rightoids usually take any joke or irony at face value. They are selectively autistic.
Claudia made similar jokes when Trump was doing his faggot ass Gulf of America shit
>>2318247it obviously isn't
>>2318244fed question
>>2318271i saw a few pigs, i flipped them off and told them to eat my asshole.
>>2318266they are super cheap now tbh. although flying them is much more difficult than they let on. the expensive ones have sophisticated autopilots and shit, but the cheap ones do not. the problem is that any drone over 250g has to be registered with the FAA and that defeats the entire purpose of them.
>>2318311You just know he was just calling all jews zionists and all zionists jews
Mods are based if they banned a Hasbara bot
>>2318311>>2318319It was a post in the IRGC thread telling a Zionist to eat shit because his people have been massacring my people since 9/11 while simultaneously demonizing us and calling for Muslims to "prove" they aren't terrorists and now suddenly being shocked that normal people are finally noticing the Zionist bloodlust and shunning Jews until they disavow Zionism to prove they're "one of the good ones" like they demanded from Muslims in the 00's.
The mods are literally taking orders from this Hasbara retard
>>2317985 mass deleting every post he called antisemitic. Absolutely shameful display from the leftypol janitors silencing actual Muslim Communist voices to pander to the Zionist Entity.
I'm not a coward though, the Zionists won't silence me this easily.
>>2318340First of let me say
death to zionism
death to israel
free palestine,
and death to USA, imperialism etc.
but maybe you were banned for the weird thing where you accused people of being jewish (not even zionist but jewish) with a cringe catholic weeb meme instead of attacking them for being a zionist and also the fact that you started your post with "I hate jews because they overwhelmingly support genocide."
There was also shit like this in the same thread
too many unironic nazis use the opportunity of israel being irredeemable pieces of shit to post crap like this
and if you push back on this more show up to accuse you of being a secret Jew for taking issue with it. We musn't forget that Communism defeated Nazism, and that contemporary antisemites (I mean real actual pol nazis, not people merely opposing USA/israel's genocide of palestinians) are not people bravely calling out zionism, but people using the crimes of zionism as an excuse to air their nazism, which they aim not merely at zionists, and not merely at jews, but at everyone who disagrees with nazism (who they accuse of being jewish because "you're jewish" is what they use to attack anyone and everyone)
so maybe that's why your post got deleted
>>2318344I did attack them for being Zionist in my following post about 9/11 etc. If you could provide a screenshot of it to prove my words I'd appreciate it for my ban appeal dear anon.
>too many unironic nazis use the opportunity of israel being irredeemable pieces of shit to post crap like this I find it kind of sad that even as Israel is waging an active genocide against the Palestinian people while simultaneously massacring Iranian civilians we're still so obsessed with defending real world modern day nazis just to fight the ghosts of nazis and their political successors THAT ARE THEMSELVES ALLIED WITH ISRAEL.
>and if you push back on this more show up to accuse you of being a secret Jew for taking issue with it.No one is calling anyone a secret Jew for taking issue with antisemitism. Crying about antisemitism in a thread about a massacre of civilians, and making it clear that only Jewish lives matter to you, kinda warrants being called a secret Jew I think. If they won't openly admit their allegiances then it seems fair to expose them for what they are. Pro-Genocide Jews will continue hiding behind the "You can't criticize me for being deeply loyal to my fellow Jews to the point of condoning the murder of civilians to advance the interests of Israel that's not Zionism btw I'm a totally unaffiliated non-Zionist Jew just calling out antisemitism with no ulterior motives" card. If you see antisemitism, feel free to point it out, but someone asking "hey, why do Jews overwhelmingly support a genocidal state and why don't we say anything about this?" isn't antisemitism. Jews should be held accountable for their dogshit nationalist beliefs irrespective of their religion.
It's really quite baffling, I don't get it, the Holocaust was terrible but the Left don't need to resort to cowering at the feet of Zionists for the next 200 years to make amends for the crimes of Capitalists. Communism did not commit the Holocaust, why should Communists be expected to defend themselves from accusations of Antisemitism just because a literal paid Zionist agent said so? It's ridiculous and I'm pretty angry if I'm being honest. Not over being banned but just the incompetence of our mods being unable to distinguish honest, truthful, and serious anti-Zionist materialist messaging from people openly plotting to break the wordfilters so they can use slurs. Apparently they can't tell the difference between these things.
>>2318357I realize this, but it's not really conducive to meaningful discourse when entire discussions get mass deleted because a single Zionist got offended and the mods can't be bothered to check their own mod queue. Banning Nazis is one thing but nothing in that post or the following post were at all Nazi related.
>>2318364Trvth nvke. Great post
They will probably just call you anti-semitic though and ignorance all the substance of what you said as it is easier to do than address your arguments.
>>2318367It is a goodpost, unlike the post (picrel) they were banned for. If only they started off by saying "nazis and their political successors THAT ARE THEMSELVES ALLIED WITH ISRAEL" nobody would have taken an issue, but instead they started with "you're jewish" combined with a Fuentes-tier catholic chud weeb meme, and a bunch of other bullshit about hooknoses and dick mutilation before getting to the incredibly obvious point that Israel is doing genocide and should be destroyed (nobody here disagrees with that)
but instead they talked exactly like a poltard doing consensus crack tactics and got caught in a dragnet.
when someone pretends to be a communist but talks like a nazi, we have to push back on that because if we don't they'll take over and shitcoat everything.
>>2318380If I were a native american I would probably boycott white businesses because they are complicit in native genocide. Regardless of how you "look" to onlookers or whether someone "supports" genocide if they directly benefit from that genocide and don't make an affirmative effort to disavow it, then they are at the very least tolerant of it. A Jew insisting they have no connection to Israel while participating in birthrite, voting for pro-Israel politicians, accusing Israel's critics of antisemitism, important goods from Israel to be sold in the US, use their politics and money to promote Israel in media and business, etc still makes them an agent of Israel. Whether they identify as a "Zionist" or not is kinda…well it's like when racist white people tell you they're not a Nazi they just support everything the Nazis supported but as a Righteous Conservative Christian.
The good thing is most Anti-Zionist Jews will tell you as soon as you meet them, because they don't want to be lumped with genocidal freaks, so it becomes pretty easy to target your criticism to covert and overt Zionists.
>>2318382aufhebungabunga
I am the great cornholio
>>2318447Go out and yell at pigs?
It'll be fun, I promise. Unless you are a secret pig sympathizer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxv3ledlvyoCIA analyst who leaked Israel strike plan sentenced to three years<1 day agoA former CIA analyst who leaked classified documents about Israel's plans to strike Iran has been sentenced to 37 months in prison.
Asif William Rahman, 34, pleaded guilty in January to two counts of willful retention and transmission of national defence information under the Espionage Act.
Authorities say that, using his high-level security clearance, Rahman printed, photographed and sent out top secret documents. They later ended up being circulated on social media.
Israel carried out air strikes on Iran last October, targeting military sites in several regions, in response to the barrage of missiles launched by Tehran weeks earlier.
"For months, this defendant betrayed the American people and the oaths he took upon entering his office by leaking some of our Nation's most closely held secrets," John Eisenberg, assistant attorney general for national security, said in a press release.
In October 2024, documents appearing to be from a Department of Defense agency were published on an Iranian-aligned Telegram account.
The documents, bearing a top-secret mark, were viewable between the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, made up of the US, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
The leaked documents are also said to have contained the US' assessment of Israeli plans ahead of the strike on Iran and the movements of military assets in preparation.
One referred to Israel's nuclear capabilities, which have never been officially acknowledged.
When asked about the leak, former President Joe Biden said he was "deeply concerned".
Israel ended up carrying out those air strikes later in the month, targeting military sites in several regions in response to missiles fired by Tehran weeks prior.
Rahman, who worked abroad, was arrested by the FBI in Cambodia and brought to the US territory of Guam to face charges.
>>2318077>what do?Would never happen, the US would probably collapse if they did a draft.
But I would have gotten the fuck away into a forest sort of cabin with some buddies if this scenario was remotely a chance.
>>2318890Physical pain has a grounding effect. It is quite easy to depict yourself as the chad when you don't really fight but you'll be much less willing to talk shit when you get hit
t. someone who was quite obnoxious as a teen and got into and lost quite a bit of fights.
>>2318887My cope is that the US military will exhaust itself in Iran, the US will default and then China will take Taiwan
Please
>>2318965It'll probably be libs but it can still be a learning experience.
>>2318826I'm going to hang out with Conan the Barbarian fans.
>>2318263 Infantry recruitment status?
You said it was trivial.
>>2319235Nothing?
AOC will throw shade at Trump as Twitter.
Democrat representatives will spend an hour lying down on the floor of Congress.
Booker will sponsor a bill to impeach Trump which won't pass.
And all this is nothing to you?
>>2319266At MINIMUM, they have to sing a song from Hamilton.
But quietly. Don't wanna get TOO rambunctious.
TEL AVIV JUST GOT HIT!
Get in here you losers!
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/BombBombIran>>2320458I say it's a low probability that the ICE protests sizzle, this seems like Gaza protests 2.0. Only shitlibs give a fuck about the parade.
Israel/Iran seems like a real sizzle tho
>>2320594These are the guys calling you soyjaks online
>>2320601yeah yeah we get it "all jews are evil and we need a final solution for them, leftist btw"
>>2320623>yeah yeah we get it "all jews are evil and we need a final solution for them, leftist btw"Hey, can you post
>"I disavow the nation of Israel and all claims to Jewish Statehood are false. Long live the Iranian revolution. Long live the Houthis. Long live Islam"just to confirm you aren't an agent of Zion? I just wanna make sure I'm not wasting my time here. Thanks.
>>2320630Now THIS is burgerpunk
>>2320641uygha I'm hispanic in a trump county and even I'm not that anti-white irl
>>2320645I disavow the nation of Israel and all claims to Jewish Statehood are false. Long live the Iranian revolution. Long live the Houthis. Long live Islam. Not all Jewish people are evil thoughever. What now? Are you still still gonna have a problem?
>>2320647>What now? Are you still still gonna have a problem?No I'm good.
I agree not all Jewish people are evil. That wasn't my intention when saying we should pressure Jews to take an active stance against Israel. The point is the same as that for ending South African apartheid. White South Africans insisted they "weren't involved" in apartheid but as soon as the world started pressuring them with boycotts the apartheid regime quickly fell apart. It's not about hating Jews but holding them accountable, that's all.
>>2320652>>2320680The feeling of being surrounded by people who you're certain surely hate you and you have no reason to respect back
It's a relevant sentiment, it's the comparison I'm trying to draw
>>2320716I hate "don't feed the trolls" messaging and enjoy being combative and ganging up on people or being a fucking dork explaining why they're wrong
But at this point I really don't know. What reaction is there to have? What is the point they're doing here(yes it's still trolling), "everything awful you say about us? it's all true!"? Okay? Then there's no reason to respond to them, just a shot in the head and move on.
Ten years ago this would get me seething. But now, it's like getting mad at the 20th "liberal tears" mug.
>>2320724>>We finally get an American revolution but it's just another bourgeois revolution to re-establish bourgeois democracyJust put all the hakeem jeffries and chuck schumers on trial with the stephen millers and kristi noems, simple as
The best fucking meme ever is "DINOs", democrats in name only, and you can use it for normies for everyone to the right of them and is seen as bowing down to trump, like schumer
>>2320776Unbased. Liberal resistance wants go back
>>2320738. The new order is only way forward.
>>2320788ikea office chair, anon
get it right
I'll be the 6'2 guy in the budenovka, NKVD uniform holding a 10 metre tall flag pole with the palestinian, iranian, venezulean, chinese, north korean, vietnamese, cuban, laotian, soviet, east german flag on it
>>2320969Nothing is getting better
Climate crisis, genocide, fascism is all getting worse
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