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>Only communist org near me are trots with 20 members
>Only guerilla I can join is the EZLN and they are pretty much narcos now
>MORENA sucks

what the fuck am I supposed to do, ist es over für mich?

>Morena sucks
Don't you dare insult lady Chicken run

What about the PT?

>EZLN are narcos
You got any facts to back that up

The trots, a lot of trot parties are really a mix and the trots that are there aren't orthodox trots, just "I read trotsky once" kind of trots.

>EZLN and they are pretty much narcos now
they said that about evo morales so I can't take it too serious without mega evidence also I probably would not care

you are a very retarded individual

>>2318021
In the last month I discovered that there are a lot of "narrations of the last moments taped of those who were involved or cross paths in the many sides of the mexican war on drugs" on yt.
And you are retarded my good sir, andar de pendejo y bravo por unos dolares es de retrasados.

>>2318015
While the leadership is still very orthodox, most of the caracoles here are pretty much only making a living by slinging dope (literally), most of them are just producers of drugs, its a pretty common fact here and its kinda sad IMO

>>2318002
did you knew PT comes from a maoist organization born in the 60's whose members later went to create everything from corporatist PRI afiliated land invaders, yellow unions and even a paramilitary that was used to massacre EZLN supporters in nothern chiapas?

it's pretty crazy but Linea Proletaria-Politica Popular are like our trot neocons on steroids and most people haven't even heard about them

>>2318051
post proof any time you feel like

>>2318062
Spoken like a good old bootlicker of porky. And you do it free!
Seems like the tourists are more retarded than usual. Or just regular burgers with their embarrased millionaire attitude?


>>2318051
> its kinda sad IMO
Why is it sad? A revolutionary group should have black market ties and ability to finance itself. They are supposed to overthrow the government which is impossible to do without some economic support.

>>2317984
you go with the trots. hang out a bit with them, you're gonna meet new people, you're gonna find people who think like you. every small organization can be in a couple of months be taken over by two people with a steadfast idea and iron stance. trust me. just go with the flow. organize and if the org starts sucking major balls, jump ship

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>>2318051
Drugs and alcohol are not permitted zapatista communities, so I don't know where you get this "pretty common fact" from. Unless it's the same anti-zapatista propaganda that has been spun for decades.

Did u xpost it to x.com?


>>2318051
this isn't proof

>>2318056
>>2318409
there is what you can see and rad from your burger reich and then there is ground reality, retard

Just like the Taliban assures you that they will not touch women's rights while repealing every woman right ever

retard

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If you have a limpdick/revisionist Marxist party with no revolution in sight, join a stronger SocDems party and convert people there to your cause because in most likelyhood they just need a few nudges to get fully blackpilled on capitalism. Don't just stay inside your little marxist bubble that is going to accomplish shit. You need to get people on your side, even the ones who right now disagree with you.

>>2318051
>making drug to fund your communist guerilla
would still be acceptable praxis even if it was true

>>2318051
Man, that's so sad. Why don't they just go get a job at Walmart? Why don't they just go get a loan at the bank? Why don't they just start a gofundme?

>>2318053
tell me more about the PRI-affiliated land invaders

while the EZLN are no narcos, their muscle has weakend to such a degree that no one takes seriously their constant warnings of starting a civil war in chiapas, it's just a matter of time until a combination of state-sanctioned paramilitaries and narcos wipe them out

>>2320995
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Torch_Movement

i think they meant orgs like this one,they dump dirt and garbage all over a plot of land and keep it in an unusable state indefinitely and/or lay out foundations illegally to settle in plot of lands meant for farming, or for preservation or whatever, under the protection of pri-led municipal governments. they were created by a pri apparatchik and are the muscle of the pri party in the state of mexico and puebla

Do you own your home? No? Organise a tenants' union.
Do you own the means of production? No? Organise a syndicate.
You don't know how? Neither did our first comrades.

>>2317984
>guerrilla larping by urban dwellers
lmfaooo

>>2321583
>Organise a tenants' union
nothing says communism like uniting consumers to decrease the price of commodities lol

>>2321583
This is the way, and infinitely better than joining a party, especially a Trotskyist party
>>2321622
Yeah there's nothing communist about it, since it actually advances the cause of Socialism instead of being a whiny Marxist circlejerk

>>2321635
>it actually advances the cause of Socialism
yeah as much as bernie and aoc do

communism, the proletarian movement, is actually when you gather people from across all classes with liberal demands

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>>2318051
but anon, the cocaine is the atomic bomb against the US, go package those kilos to the truck

>>2317984
>weeeeehh waaaaaahh

>>2322027
Chiapas doesn't produce coca cola. Anon, that is the Colombians, Peruvians or Bolivians deal.
The Colombians are disorganized, the Peruvians are at their minimum and the Bolivians(are allegedly on Evo side

>>2321334
can the op confirm he was talking about the torch movement?

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>>2317984
>trots
biased but give them a shot, if they suck then repsectfully jump ship and try doing entryism for whatever the fuck your ideology is in MORENA

>>2317984
Enough demoralizing, seek out the Red Sun and never stop educating yourself.

>>2357090
This is the right course imo. Give the orgs a try even if you don't agree with them. At the very least you
1. Get an idea on what areas you can work on them with and what you can't
2. Get the chance to headhunt for your own org if the situation is simply unworkable
3. Get experience of working in an org, which even bad orgs can show you what not to do

The perfect org isn't likely to fall into your lap, but even working with bad ones can be productive.

>>2357204
yeah this is the actual answer

Why not trots?
t. non-specific Leninist in Trot org of 40 people, they're doing good work, unlike the other local trot org

>Mexico
Daily reminder that the Mexican Community Party and the Indian Communist Party were started by the same guy

>>2322027
>doesn't know about the second fentanyl war

>>2357090
>entryism into morena
This is why everyone hates you trot scum

Don't join any group just to be in a group. Especially if it's a group you're getting bad vibes from already.
Read theory, get in shape, find sympathetic people in your community that you can organize with organically based on local/workplace issues.

>>2359550
you dont have to be a trot (tho i obviously am), there is nothing inherently trot about the strategy of entryism

>>2317984
>socialism MUST be accomplished via a single-party, centralized planned economy!
Why are tankies like this? The Soviet Union failed; get over it

>>2361721
>Nothing is to be done!
Thanks mr Fukuyama, I hope that 90's coke and whores was good enough

just join the trots. they cannot be that bad

>>2363029
depends how much you like sexual assault

>>2359591
true but entryism in mexico is just a fancy word for collaborationism and tailism


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