/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Third worldism is liberal on liberal violence

If you aren't liberal you shouldn't worry

slowpoke spotted http://youtube.com/watch?v=lOqy8cC72wA

>>2319456

Twdist here. If this is not just bait, here is a simple list of things a sympathizer living in the fw can do to help the cause of tw revolution:

1. Link up with third world comrades in a third world org.
2. Give them moral support.
3. If you have a good grasp of theory, ask them if them if anyone needs a primer, or help writing articles.
4. If you have some useful skill that you could contribute over the internet, ask them if they would like help or training.
5. If nothing else, contribute some money. 75usd is more than a full time full month salary at exchange rates in many parts of Africa for instance, so even 10$ is like 25+ hours of wage labour.
6. Completely refrain from aggravating first worldists online. Its not only a spectacular waste of your time, energy & sanity, but its ultimately counterproductive: Some of them do eventually get tired from bashing their head against the wall and that's when you can occasionally lend a sympathetic ear & gain a recruit.

>>2319456
I’ve grown to a point where I and many others recognize that your first idea “cutting off the west and letting them decay” is far more conventional and easier to deal with emotionally than wasting any time building up an offensive attack against you and your people. Thankfully, your dogshit administration is making that isolation process easy, all everyone else has to do is get rid of the kleptocratic lapdogs still offering connections from our countries to yours.

>>2319760

I want to second this view and link with my 6th point here >>2319720 :

This really is a case wherein attack/offense is the inferior strategy. It follows logically from twdist theory; The main tasks to build up third world organizations (and after revolution, socialist construction), and these very developments themselves will accelerate the decay of the fw outposts by cutting them off (partially but increasingly over the long haul) from the varied sources of excess surplus value.

>>2319720
OP here, thank you for answering the first question. I appreciate it a lot.

I think, overall, my question to Third-Worldists is "broad-strokes, what do you hope to achieve with this, and how?". Because a lot of the Third-Worldists I've met online seem like good people, but they're also always in propaganda mode, so it's hard to tease out what part is ideology and which part is sloganeering. "Death to AmeriKKKa" is a nice catchphrase, but I'm never exactly sure what it's supposed to mean.

>>2319760
That seems like the smartest solution to me. But then again, I'm a soyboy who prefers to avoid violence when possible.

For what it's worth, my hope is to see the United Stated balkanized into a bunch of tiny pieces within my lifetime, and to hopefully live on one of them that has a good relationship with the Third World. I live in the Rust Belt, an area that has in many ways suffered rather than benefitted from the US transitioning to third-world slave labor, so my chances seem pretty good.

>>2319949

I've always seen the "death to amerikkkkkkka" type of endless sloganeering as more of an inside joke (pic related); If there are really people who take it seriously out there, they are not the lind of people you want in or around your tw org.

Now to answer your question what we would hope to achieve in regularly in the stuff I listed, in the short it can be a simple as helping increasing full time staff in the tw org., or saving up to buy a small office in a new town, or hell even just helping teach a new recruit how to use word or excel.

Think small every day tasks & changes that are meant to accumulate over years & decades. In the preparation of the "subjective factor" in the tw; And, as you anticipate, in so doing, we in the fw also gain valuable allies in the long run, in addition to new insight & methods that come from practical everyday work.

>>2320131
Thank you. This thread has been very constructive, unusually constructive for Leftypol.

>>2320197
The retards are in the iran thread

>>2319456
>First, what do you want me to do? I see Third-Worldists yell at people from the First World all the time, but there never seems to be any direction as to what we could be doing to make things better.
Gonna first stop you right there. You just said two seconds ago that you're "not particularly familiar with Maoism-Third-Worldism as a theory." You're asking people to do your homework for you while freely admitting that you haven't done the required investigation to even begin asking genuine questions. You and so many others don't even realize that there are two "Third-Worldist" trends with very different syntheses of Maoism (MIM and Leading Light). That's not the perspective or practice of a genuine revolutionary, that's the practice of a college kid coasting to their bachelors by paying some freshman to do their tests for them. MTWists of either trend are very clear about what they want in their writings, which are easily found with a simple search on your search engine of choice. Why you and so many others are somehow incapable of that is beyond me. I'm not even a MTWist but every time I see posts like this that boil down to "I've done nothing and I'm all out of ideas!" I see a little less potential in the lot of you.
>Is the assumption just that we're intrinsically evil?
Sounds like someone got their feelings hurt. MTWists haven't said this a single time, ever. Not even the erstwhile "Leading Lights" said this. This is a purposeful distortion that I keep seeing here and nowhere else.
>Because if it is, it makes the presence of Western Third-Worldists confusing
Buddy you can't be serious.
>I've only ever seen Third-Worldists telling me that I'm evil.
[citation needed]
>neither of them seems like much of a well defined plan to me
Have an ounce of self-awareness and consider how your objective position in global imperialism might influence your perception of this line.

>You're asking people to do your homework for you while freely admitting that you haven't done the required investigation to even begin asking genuine questions.
That's absolutely fair. I am indeed being lazy. The reason I asked here instead of reading a book on the matter is because I wanted to save time, although I probably should be doing the latter instead if I actually want to understand the topic.

>Sounds like someone got their feelings hurt. MTWists haven't said this a single time, ever. Not even the erstwhile "Leading Lights" said this. This is a purposeful distortion that I keep seeing here and nowhere else.
>[citation needed]
I'm going off of social media interactions specifically. I've seen people outright say things like
>Mao was wrong. The American people cannot be awoken as anything but zombies
I haven't met any Third-Worldists IRL.

>Have an ounce of self-awareness and consider how your objective position in global imperialism might influence your perception of this line.
I'm aware that I am in a position of relative privilege compared to someone living in one of the many third-world nations America raped. But I've 1. still suffered more than enough at the hands of capitalism that my interests in favor of change, and 2. know enough about geopolitics to be aware that reforming things at home while still sucking the third world dry is in no way sustainable.

How to link upwith orcs in the third world anyway

>>2321389
Orgs. Phone.

lol