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why don’t we try and flood tiktok with theory and more. Early Anarchist movements were successful because they had popular newspapers so why doesn’t every anarchist/socialist attempt this. And while yes I know normie bourgeoisiecuck social media sucks tiktok is at least less bourgeoisie then x or some shit

people are already doing this


NYPA methinks

>>2323830
hasan is the most popular channel on twitch

Because anarchism is for retards

>>2330042
it's the other way around, anarchism is for very high autism score species, so called "humans" are just hooting hairless apes ie retards

>>2330029
Hasan the anarcho-millionaire

Read SotS. PLEASE.

>>2330253
>anarchist literature
<its """marxist""" academics
lol

hey, i like making glasses.

>>2323830
You can't really condense theory into a manner that the average dopamine scroller can comprehend. Even then It's going to have to be infinitely more gutted than even the Communist Manifesto and that's if the scroller doesn't go "Oh well? 100 billion venezuela iphone dictator no food gotcha". And even if you convince them are they actually even going to do anything beyond that, like actually engaging in praxis and not just token forms of internet protest like slapping the hammer and sickle on their bio


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>>2330255
<i don't read
I accept your concession. please leave.

>>2323830
what happened to those early anarchist movements? where are they now?

>>2330393
Stalinoids back stabbed them and fascoids mass murdered them.

>>2330375
>It's going to have to be infinitely more gutted than even the Communist Manifesto
TikTok woman I literally saw yesterday: "The Commie manifesto is lame, you need to learn about primitive accumulation!" (everyone hooked immediately)
>>2330393
>what happened to those early anarchist movements? where are they now?
<The German Peasants' War (1524-1525):
>This massive uprising aimed to challenge the hierarchical social order of early modern Germany and, according to one perspective, sought to destroy both the church and the state.
>While ultimately suppressed, its radical nature and the subsequent spread of Anabaptist movements (which sometimes advocated for the destruction of church and state) are relevant to the development of anti-state ideas.
<The English Revolution (17th Century):
>Groups like the Diggers and the Ranters, associated with Gerrard Winstanley, held ideas that resonate with agrarian anarchism, emphasizing community ownership and a rejection of established hierarchies.

>>2330215
>>2330029
Hasan is a lite succdem who tails the democrats, and no he is not the biggest streamer on twitch.
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/ranking

>>2330558
even if its a joke it still summarizes their mentality

Man, I wonder what it would be like if someone spent all of their time building a vehicle that could deliver such materials to the masses, a publication of sorts. They would probably be called a grifter, so I would advise you not to do this, OP. You will see no support from anyone on the left if you do it. You will see nothing but hate from the people on the left if you pursue this idea. And there are already people who are pursuing the idea, and they're not very well liked. And you have to understand that it takes a lot of effort to pursue this idea, and that will be effort that will be, at the very least, attacked by the majority of people on the left. So do what you must, but I don't see the point. And the demoralization of people who try to do anything is very real. Because you're thinking in your head, you think, well, I'm going to go to the left and then find people who would be interested in helping to contribute to that project. And in reality, you're never going to find those people. You're only going to find people who want you to stop doing what you're doing.

>>2330979
Fundamentally, the TikTok and every other social media is powered by an algorithm, an algorithm that is not like some piece of magical technology that nobody knows how it works. It's literally a mathematical algorithm that determines what you see next and what you don't see. Go talk about Gaza on TikTok and you'll get shadowbanned. How do you compete against that? How do you compete against any of the materials that we need to be putting out being blocked, censored, shadowbanned, downvoted by the algorithm, or simply just not shown to anybody? Well, you would need to build an alternative platform that doesn't use an algorithm to showcase content. You would need to just remove yourself from the social media game altogether to build that publication. But of course, again, the amount of work that is required, the amount of resources that is required to do this is very extreme and the amount of hatred you're going to get from people for simply trying to do this project makes it very difficult to want to continue to pursue it because you're thinking to yourself, well, I'm going to need more than just me to make this work. I'm going to need more people to help out. But you're never going to find those people because the people on the internet who participate in communities like this are like crabs in a fucking bucket.

>>2330992
HOUDINI YOU ARE ALIVE! I MISSED YOU MAN!
WHY ARE YOU NOT POSTING IN THE ISRARL-IRAN THREAD?

>>2330285
sorry pal no prescriptive solutions for you literary or otherwise

>>2330409
>Anarchism is fascism because uh… it just is, okay?
Why do leftcoms think like this?

>>2330398
because anarchism fails, they don't form a strong enough group AKA a state to withstand the violence against them which leads to their inevitable disintegration. anarchists movements in first and third world countries are on the margins of history, they have never built a durable model that lasted more than a few a years

>>2331004
geopolitics is sports for poli sci faggots, i've been busy doing irl shit

>>2331145
you can do both. lenin did both.

>>2330049
>>2331161
if your ideas fail in practice then they are not good ideas lol
human praxis is the measure of all things. read marx, please.

>>2331171
we are not animals. read marx, please
>The animal is immediately one with its life activity. It does not distinguish itself from it. It is its life activity. Man makes his life activity itself the object of his will and of his consciousness. He has conscious life activity. It is not a determination with which he directly merges. Conscious life activity distinguishes man immediately from animal life activity. It is just because of this that he is a species-being.

>>2331178
i see why natives view marxism with the same disdain they view other european ideologies

>>2331207
yeah i don't really give a shit about some marginal and powerless societal fraction you fetishize and instead have a correct analysis that places the proletariat and the interest of the proletariat as a class first and foremost because i realize the working class holds all power and not some hipster anarchist wagamaloo that you came up one night when you were high of ecstacy and drunk of fat girl farts. what do they call you in your native commune, is it worm that wiggles? or rabid rat?

>>2330380
>if they dont like my garbage academic nonsense they didnt actually read it
LMAO you can tell this shithole is filled with illiterate americans

the sits are just a bunch of pb french losers and culture critique has nothing to do with communism. gramsci at least pretended to be scientific about it

>>2331211
>hey this ideology implies an anthroprocentric viewpoint that doesn't respect nature, position humans as superior to nature (can't see how this matters in the face of climate collapse!)

<oh yeah? well how about you drink some more fire water huh redman? what's wrong turok? made we genocided you?

>>2331213
i read tsots and i found it rather queer. it was an essay dragged on out too much. debord still held it together in the first third (that's the only good part, honestly, but even then it is more of a cultural critique than actual theory, so it worth comes only from its originality), even tried to critique the soviets for kronstadt (if only he knew they were white guardist agitators), but in the last third he just goes on about this really fucking retarded interpertation of time and what time is and he really tries to be profound about it but i don't think anyone ever reads tsots besides the first few chapters because i never see people talk about debord's "critique" of the ussr or china or his time mysticism at the end (seriously, wtf was that about?)

>>2331178
>we are not animals
lmao ultimate religio-ape cope
>ape says ape shit is "conscious life activity" which totally means something i swear, just as god intended, unlike filthy animals which are dumb and shit and not in god's image

>>2331211
check out this ape so feisty and full of conscious life activity

>>2330956
>muh muh
muh muh muh muh muh muh muh

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>>2331217
<muh nature
i'm not talking to you until you read the attached pdf. i am not having a "muh nature" discussion with an anarchist in 2025.
>>2331226
>>2331227
you are free to live with the animals. but do not drag us with you.

>>2331225
>in the last third he just goes on about this really fucking retarded interpertation of time and what time is and he really tries to be profound about it
yeah whenever i bother reading philosophy shit i think to myself it would be much better if they dropped the pretense and just wrote actual prose

>tiktok
Why bother with centralized platforms? Everyone on TikTok has a stawpage and is generally trying to move off.
The only relevant centralized platforms right now is Bluesky, but it's gonna take a while for people to realize the AT protocol is vaporware, whenin they'll move to activitypub stuff.

>>2323830
Why would you want to teach gen z some fuckass loser ideology?

By the way, most people don't like being lectured at with political theory, arnarchism or not. The best thing you would do is create catchy folk punk songs that are thematically anarchist so the youth would be intrigued about it and buy a book to learn more as about anarchism as they're still in that idealistic stage of life where they romanticize the world

>>2331237
vote with your wallet!!!!!!!!!!!

>The only relevant centralized platforms right now is Bluesky

AHAHAHAHAHA

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>>2331237
>bsky
>relevant
You mean the already dying shithole filled with nothing but insufferably unfunny wine aunts that feels like a reenactment of the worst spheres of 2012 tumblr/twitter (first as a tragedy then as a farce)?

>>2331234
good go live with mushrooms self-important ape

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>>2331253
i will, tyvm

>>2330255
>Guy Debord
>academic
Uygha didn't even have an university degree, he was originally hanging around with edgy surrealist artists and started reading Marxist theory later on because these artists were often into radical politics.

We have internal discussion here but its waste of time compared to spreading socialist propaganda. New theory will never be created in this cesspool.

>>2333594
>he wasn't an academic, he was an artist!
Not really much better.

>>2333688
>New theory will never be created
Nobody who talks like this is not a massive retard.

>>2333855
Nice way to deflect. I guess those socialist realism artists were contemptible too, heh?
Marx and Lenin both came from a petit-bourgeois background, both studied law. No one in the ML canon worked in a factory for one single day in their lives. You are fucking ridiculous when you shit on academics, do you think the average prole had the time to read Hegel back then?

>>2323857
maoist peter in ig


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