/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

No. Saying the word "fascist" hurts the feefees of leftypol

>>2325953
>>”America First” and says “Americanism not globalism”
he said that 8 years ago and didn't mean a word of it
he's full of shit

Yeah, only person here that would have qualms with that is Haz, but it's good to offend him so that's more reason to say it on top of it's truthfulness.

>America first
>Look inside
>Cash for India
H-… HOG?

>>2325953
>every amerikkkan president ever
>>2326036
trump isnt fascist. https://fascipedia.org/index.php/Fascist_Manifesto

Read fascist manifesto. The social democrat has more in common with fascism than trump/

>>2326041
>The social democrat has more in common with fascism than trump/
So close.

>>2326050
Well it is just more authoritarian liberalism.

>>2326114
>authoritarian
meaningless slop

>>2326042
its actually true. read the manifesto https://www.anpi.it/libri/manifesto-dei-fasci-italiani-di-combattimento

>>2325953
If by fascist, you mean paper maiche ruler who does what daddy Thiel says (among others), then yes. Trump is a fixer at heart, who copied the entire working model of Roy Cohn, who Trump called a father figure. He was also close to Epstein, who did the same thing.

So what did Trump do? He captured the office, then sold it to the highest bidder. But at the same time, he has things that even he has direction on, and that's where you know who his masters are. It's clear that he's expanding the military-industrial complex and its police state, but he's not particularly good at it. This is also a function of the general ineptitude of the deep state at winning any wars at all right now.

The scary thing is how high he could actually be. He's by no means the top of world power, but the fact that they chose him and allowed him to run shows how loose they are willing to play with the state of the world. Granted, they probably believe they could step in at any time, and I have no doubt that they could. It's just the sloppiness that indicates decay and definitely not what I think people mean when they "fascist". Generally, I think people mean high competence, which is a necessary factor of actual authoritarianism. At best, we have an uber wealthy elite that is content to shutdown dissent, unable to turn their nation into a loyal, happy, and productive class of slaves. We are slaves, but those of us with eyes can plainly see this.

>>2326122
>fascist wiki
get out of here

>>2325953
the american state has been a fascist one long before trump and it will be long after trump, providing its status quo is maintained. trump isn't even the actual 'fuhrer' of this fascist state, he's a strong-man figurehead, merely a marionette in the puppet show of american 'democracy'

>>2325953
It is useful to call him that cause it connects him with a tradition of right wing dictatorships and dominance of capital over human beings.

>>2327397
Dangerously based answer, everyone will ignore it because it's the fundamentally correct one.

Trump is a fascist, fascism doesn't necessarily equal nationalist public policies. It's funny to me how muricans consider him to be a patriot. A true patriot in any country would do a heavy industrialization of the economy.

>>2327397
>>2327718
It's not. Stating "America has always been fascist" diminishes what Fascism is structurally, as defined by the Comintern before WW2.
It's not simply racism or having a few genocidal henchmen as part of your administration.
Fascism is more like the final stage of bourgeois dictatorship. With the human face ripped off.
It's when (national) capital can only survive through perpetual war and violence, and the entire state is organized around this purpose. And the most loathsome sadistic elements are mobilized and given free reign against all forms of opposition, including communists.

>>2327777
>Stating "America has always been fascist" diminishes what Fascism is structurally
You're strawmanning your opponent.

>>2327397
Saying the US was fascist at any time in the past is so mindbogglingly stupid.
>b-but Reagan was mean
In the US you could vocally disagree and protest Reagan, the Vietnam War, etc etc. Try doing analogous things in 1930s Germany, late 1930s-to-mid 1940s Japan, 1930s Italy, Hungary, Chile, Argentina, etc. Honestly Americans saying this shit is so stupid. "I'm in the anti-fascist resistance, just like the underground partisans against the Independent State of Croatia!" You're definitely like the people in Hue gunned down by Ngo Dinh Diem.
>b-but imperialist war, and racism
The bourgeoisie generally agrees on waging imperialist war, they generally agree on oppressing minorities, they generally agree on plundering the colonies. This is consistent across bourgeois states because even with freedom for the bourgeoisie to dissent, these are not the issues that are disagreed on. It is not what determines something is fascist or not. Fascism is when a bourgeois democratic system where bourgeois concerns are bickered about (which is something that is freely happening to this day, see the No Kings rally for an example of a rival bourgeois clique freely protesting against the ruling bourgeois clique) gives way a circle of financial capitalists who maintain a cobbled-together "unity" of the bourgeoisie, demanding discipline even from the bourgeoisie itself which normally wants to politically compete with each other over their petty differences.
The USA, UK, and France have never been fascist, excepting the Vichy regime.

>>2328118
I do think in case of the current admin, it's going there. And like the other places mentioned, it's been building up to it for a while.

>>2328126
I agree, many previous fascist systems were preceded by the bourgeoisie trying to patch up their bourgeois democratic system for their purposes in a variety of ways before just scrapping the whole thing. But I think its wrong say, "We're here! It's fascism now!"
Now is just a time when the American bourgeoisie is trying to prune elements of the bourgeois democratic system that they think are hampering their goal of maintaining US military and financial domination around the world. If this doesn't work, perhaps in a several number of years they will rubbish the whole thing and erect a fascist state in its place. I don't discount that. But to say, "Our government is officially fascist now!" or even, "We have been fascist for who knows how long!" is nonsense.

>>2325953
No, I don't agree.

America first is reheated jacksonian populism