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The real violent arm of the State to control its population is the police. Several reasons for this:

•Perceived as legitimate
•Mostly uses non-lethal force
•Letal force is limited
•Ready to act immediately

But most importantly: the National Guard would not dare use military equipment against civilians. And compared to the police, soldiers believe they exist to protect the country from foreign enemies rather than internal ones.

The National Guard is a paper tiger. The real enemy is the police, and it can be beaten.

shut your mouth, dumbass

>>2330157
Solders have been used as domestic law enforcement (aka police) since the beginning of written history. The liberal idea of Checks and Balances will always be ignored when the bourgeoisie thinks it's necessary.

>>2330159
Did they open fire? No. Paper Tiger.
It’s a psychological tactic o induce fear. Their last resort. That’s when the State is at the weakest. Engage on them and the State falls

>the National Guard would not dare use military equipment against civilians
lol. lmao.

>>2330164
>Engage on them and the State falls
This is how it would playout in a TV show written by a sheltered nepobaby.

Look at real history instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1905)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

>>2330157
shit bait. have your fucking (you) anyways and be gone.

>>2330157
There should be workers militia under the supervision of workers councils to replace this bourgeoisie institution.
>inb4 but socialist police is a good thing
No its the same bourgeoisie bullshit.

>>2330163
>The liberal idea of Checks and Balances will always be ignored when the bourgeoisie thinks it's necessary.
Nobody disagrees with this but the solution is not to have unchecked authority instead.

>>2330164
American government is extremely careful about direct violence against their citizens because their citizens are armed and can shoot back. Instead they employ psychological propaganda to maintain order.

>>2330224
The psychological propaganda is present on everyday life. But when it comes to rioting they only have the militia left.

The main problem is not that the citizens can fight back, as trained soldiers will beat them anyway. The problem is making soldiers pull the trigger. This might be possible on a small scale occasionally. But on a large scale and frequently, it fails. Look at the Russian revolution, when the armed forces refused to follow orders.

>>2330157
Same shit, if police was eliminated the military would just replace them

Why uyghahs refuse to read instead of reinventing the wheel with their half baked thoughts?

>>2330244
If i were part of the ruling class I would do anything in power not to antagonize workers that are 90% country. Soldiers are brutes trained to follow order there is nothing difficult or special about opening fire on a rioting mob. They have explicit orders not to do so because it would create an absolute shitstorm.

>>2330271
This shitstorm is our victory. We must engage on them to make them fire back. It will take a sacrifice yes but there’s a greater cause

Well, traditionally armies were the ones who overthrew their own governments, many times leading to socialism or at least national liberation. Alliance of Sahel States, USSR, the list goes on.

But I've never heard of police overthrowing their own government, except when it is against a progressive one to reinstate a reactionary government.

Army is the one being sent to die for porky, so it makes sense that they have a tendency to turn against their own masters, unlike police who just beats civilians into submission without much risk to themselves.

>>2330157
>awful post attempting to draw false distinction between pigs and war pigs
>post made by copypasting from word doc
>no meme arrows
>bullets instead
tovarisch is this coordinated inauthentic behaviour?

Fucker lives in another reality where the army was never used against civilians.

>>2330218
>the solution is not to have unchecked authority instead.
I agree but dividing state functions into independent Branches of Government doesn't work. Federal Executive just ends up running everything anyway because they have the guns. And then there is no internal system of holding the Executive back because the other outside, separate and independent Branches of Government can just be ignored.

>>2330157
During revolution the mutiny of soldiers as free proletarians will be a necessity for our victory. This is a correct description of the distinction between soldiers and police.

>>2331960
Isn’t it a pre-condition for the revolution to happen? Rather than a post-condition?

>>2330432
Buy a rifle and see what happens.


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