Are right wingers genuinely stupid or just selfish? I know it's a massive generalization (and maybe ironic because of that) but I'm just dumbfounded. It's like they either know they're lying or too stupid to either understand cause and effect, or just struggle with empathy.
>>2333861The thing that made me wanna make this thread was thinking about "race science" propaganda. Opposing immigration in and of itself is something I think is kinda complex from a material perspective, but obviously the far-right typically only argues about "races" being fundamentally different intellectually. I personally don't think it's true, but even if you ended up thinking it was, I don't see how there's any kind morality behind the justifications right wingers use. Like let's say you follow their usual line of reasoning with firstly assuming autism score is a good way of quantifying intelligence, and then comparing autism score averages (from cherry picked studies) of different races as being good evidence. There's still some nonsensical things about this, like the fact even within your "own race" there'd still be a huge portion of people overlapping with races of supposedly lower autism score (and unless you're intending to be equally cruel to them, which some right wingers are to be fair, the whole argument falls apart) or the nature of autism score testing meaning the average always stays the same number no matter how many people you try removing. Even if you overlook those things, why would people you see as "lesser" than you deserve less resources, opportunities or quality of life? Why would that ever justify insane genocidal rhetoric? I know it might seem obvious that maybe they simply just don't see those different from them as actual people, or that they are conscious of their selfishness and would rather endorse fascist rhetoric to retain their comfortable way of life. But either of these, people being too "stupid" too fully humanize people different from them or too low in empathy to have different priorities just seems so hard for me to grasp, I guess. And it seems to me most right wing thought at its core boils down to these things, not just when it comes to "race". Maybe there's some irony in it, but I genuinely don't *get* it.
>>2333844Oh and of course OP is some equally moronic leftard who thinks the problem with right-wingers is just some vibes and aura bullshit about feelings and not that
both leftoids and rightoids are anti-communist.
>>2334270You are an illiterate retard.
>supposed leftists<not muh real leftoidismAdd one more to the list
>>2334292>bad faith is when you correctly get called a retardNot how it works chief.
>>2334300>how is jerking off one side of liberalism while denouncing the other over "empathy" (lmao) not just radlib vibes >>2333900>but tbf, are western leftists any less retarded?Nope.
>>2333934Systemic racism is not a thing, but it is quite obvious being poorer in general will cause lower I.Q. scores.
I.Q. itself, of course, being a bogus measurement.
>>2334334As retarded as OP is you're confusing scientific analysis with personal endeavors. The problem is letting morals mess with analysis, not having morals at all.
>>2334343Are you baiting or are you actually this fucking stupid?
>>2334345Sure, but
>>2333934>Opposing immigration in and of itself is something I think is kinda complex from a material perspective???
>>2333844Any rightoid of the owning class is merely protecting their own propertarian interests.
The rightoids that arent protecting their interests are liars about the French Revolution. Edmund Burke's entire poisonous legacy is about making sentiment and prejudice the ground of conservatoid epistemology.
>>2334248So, then it should be easy to give an example of left wing race science no? Where are these left wing race scientists?
>libshit leftoids utter garbage about "blacks" or whatever being dumberCmon bro we're not talking about libs who call themselves leftist.
>>2333844>b-but what about EMPATHY?!?!What an utterly intangible, reductive and abstract expectation for someone to act within. You think people become Marxists juxtaposed to rightwingers (squib liberals) because of 'empathy'?
>>2335182And you achieve that via the sterilization of the Germanic cultures you oh-so confide yourselves in worshipping.
>>2335182It’s happening anyways because neither party wants to stop the inflow of brown/black people into the country to provide cheap labor for amerikkkans who don’t want to do it
cope harder
>>2333844Basically right wing workers are deeply insecure about their socioeconomic status which is always precarious, and right wing politicians along with their financial backers abuse this. Right wingers believe they will be less likely to be exploited if another group is being exploited. This is clearly not true, if you meet a scam artist, he's probably going to scam everyone he meets, same goes for exploitation.
Some of them actually hate minorities and want to harm them via fiscal conservatism, however the reason they hate minorities is probably mostly feeling insecure in their socioeconomic status, again.
>>2335316>as if communism isn't left-wingpretty sure communism goes beyond the schism from the french revolution
>retarded americanbrother youre the main perpretators of this left-right bullshit!!
>>2335316Don't call people retards when you have no idea what you're even talking about.
Do you even know where the terms left and right come from? The left-wing pushes for useless abstractions like equality or opposing hierarchies. Like the left-right split started in the French Revolution, with the left favoring things democracy and fairness. Communism grew out of this by focusing explicitly and solely on the proletariat and on scientific analysis.
The French Revolution and its values, either left or right, pertain exclusively to the realm of bourgeois politics. Communism quite obviously transcends bourgeois values so it doesn't belong to either.
>>2335857>We're on a site called leftypol.Oh yes the name of some niche shithole means communism is actually left-wing!! Nobody with a brain gives a shit.
>>2333934>>2333934>There's still some nonsensical things about this, like the fact even within your "own race" there'd still be a huge portion of people overlapping with races of supposedly lower autism score (and unless you're intending to be equally cruel to them,If it is cruelty to make them live with their own kind, then it is cruelty to whites to force non-whites among them. This makes these people living cudgels, punishments to anyone around them, why am I supposed have any sympathy for such groups?
Secondly, your "empathy" is completely cynical and political. As can be seen how the left has aided the labour party and the zionist tory party in censoring the Rotherham rapegangs.
>>2335929no it's not lol
the logic in your conditionals doesn't even follow coherently
you're really not beating the 'right-wingers are morons' allegiations
off to the congo with you! :D
>>2336748*allegations
typo gg
>>2337123>Law is morality Its like every single thing I said just flew over your head. Morality is inherently relativistic and cannot be fucking defined by whatever liberalist government conjures up as its legal system (system of which that can be modified to any capacity by those with more power to protect self-interests, most notably lobbying) The point being which collectivist morality is entirely a social manifestation of self-interest, being that the community and their development fufills the ego. Does this mean that nothing matters and everything is abstract so we can go smoke weed and have orgies in the street? Fuck no. Individualism corrodes the systems we collectively organize as human beings and forces everyone to confide with themselves only in a cynical form of opportunism.
>Common senseEven more spooks that are coming out of your ass. Quit using a self-percieved standard of rationality as a crutch as it's entirely evident that it cannot stand by itself for most advanced social reciprocity. This isn't 'muh philosophy' it's a rudimentary analysis of the social contracts that govern how we think and how we act, to which THAT could've been common sense if we weren't poisoned by liberal moralism.
>>2333991The reality is, the genetic science overwhelmingly actually does align towards the "race science" types. Differences in genes in ethnicites, actually 98% relate to genes relating to behaviour, intelligence and brain structure.
There are massive copium explanations from geneticists that try handwave this away, but the arguments don't really hold up to scrutiny.
Also just for genetic diversity between human ethnicites, would result at minimum, 12 different species, if we applied that distance, to any other animal.
Honestly, go hang around Australian Aboriginals, and genuinely come back and tell, me, they view reality, or even time and space itself, in the same way as a Western white person. No, they are super highly adapted for energy conservation and hunting in the harshest climate on earth. It's clear as day after you meet them, they view time far more dilated time than I or you.
For me, I actually think it's awesome that different ethnicities are adapted for different things that makes humanity 1000x more interesting as a species. What makes life suck for Aboriginals, is that they are stuck in a world, that is created for White European.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >le empathyOnly invoked by leftoids and commiefaggots when arguing why the developed world needs all its industry ripped up and sent to the starving Sudanese children (who are actually 20-30 years old) and then burned down or why a pederast caught diddling kids needs to be let go because arresting him is queerphobic and non-empathetic.
>>2333934>>2334345>>2334351>>2334361You fags know that none of the socialist countries took in immigrants, don't you? The only exception is GDR and it only allowed for ethnic Germans from SU and Warsaw Pact countries, not hordes of darkies, camelfuckers and pajeets.
>>2333844Israel is speedrunning WW3 while you're asking questions that belong in the Gamergate era, god damn
Are right-wingers dumb? No, they just haven't broken the reals > feels barrier. Whether that's due to class, relative comfort in life, or something else. I was a feels > reals person in my youth, then reality hit me like a truck: I'm never going to live up to the expectations of my parents.
>>2337427>>2337551Hello there /pol/, peddling your spooky race bullshit again?
Why don't you read "The Invention of the White Race" and "The Ego and his own" so you can finally realize that Race is made up bullshit.
>>2337813Did GDR import half of Vietnam's population during Cold War? Did Soviets take in tens of millions of Thirdies? No, lol, and you know it, faggots.
>>2337821I don't care about Israel.
>>2337831>Race is made up bullshit>But don't insult the hecking uyghurinos, okay??? >>2334605>most people dont come to their political views by rational analysis of the world. People political views are mostly shaped by social upbringing theres also the material reality and interest, but yeah
this is key to a materialist view, and one of the important thing to understand if you actually want to effect political change. You cant simply "convince people", its not simply a question of intelligence, rational discourse, or base appeal to emotions. We're social animals, and social conditions are extremely important
>>2338021Racism is a way of life, uyghur.
>>2338031I don't remember USSR or any other socialist country scooping up hordes of shitskins and neither do you - because it didn't happen. You can quit the "you can't have socialism without 666 million coons".
>>2338037Don't we all?
>>2338070>le /pol/e>le nazisRetarded.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2336717you're retarded
>Being lefty is not materially beneficial to anyone personallyit absolutely is
>If you were purely self-interested you would be a right wing grifter or neolib corpo on a grindset only if I think my interest lie only in personal monetary gain, which is typical burger individualist capitalist mindset but is fucking stupid. I benefit from a healthy society where inequalities are minimal, labor laws strong and leisure time abundant.
>>2338119https://digitalcommons.conncoll.edu/slavichp/8/
>Through an in-depth look at first-person accounts, primary documents, and archival research, this project broadens the scope of information available about the interwar migration of Black Americans to the Soviet Union for agricultural, industrial, and artistic initiatives which helped advance the Socialist Project. These men and women had different motivations for their emigration stemming from racial solidarity with various Soviet peoples, economic reasonings, and safety from American racism. This paper hopes to bring to life the stories of those whose legacies have been lost to history by uncovering their lives under communism, their achievements and recognitions, and that of their families and descendants. Some stories include the advancements in cotton made by Oliver Golden and his group in Soviet Uzbekistan in 1931; Langston Hughes and his group's artistic collaboration with the Soviets on the anti-racist film "Black and White"; and the industrial inventions propelled by Robert Robinson. By tracking the lives and emigration stories of these Black men and women, this thesis offers a complete and comprehensive overview of three distinct migratory groups between 1920 and 1945. This thesis examines these migration patterns through the lens of policies put forward by the Communist International at the various Congresses of the 1920s and shapes the understanding of how policy influenced migration. >>2339362No the Fascists are "winning" because they have the backing of the bourgeoisie.
Hell the Nazi's themselves didn't even get the majority vote in Germany, they only got in power thanks to backdoor deals and Hitler was appointed by Chancellor Hindenburg.
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