>Despite being able to draw on the rich historical experience of the Russian Revolution, many “left-wingers”, and declared enemies of Stalinism, nevertheless still look to the anarchists for potential support. We therefore need to reiterate that libertarianism was the first of the diseases to infect the proletarian movement, and was the precursor to all later opportunisms (including Stalinism) in that it falsified politics and history in order to attract the petty and middle bourgeois strata of society onto the proletarian side – despite the fact that these classes have always ruined everything, and been the source of every kind of calamity and error. What resulted from this approach wasn't proletarian leadership over the “popular masses”, but destruction of any proletarian features of the general movement, and a reinforced enslavement of the proletariat to capital.https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1957/fundamentals.htmStalinsisters, our response?
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Bordiga's critique of Stalin/ML (really, democratic centralism) was literally "if I was in charge, I would have purged better." That's what organic centralism is when you remove the flowery, poetic language. That there is no need for any sort of democratic discourse because he's really smart and knows the trve scientific interpretation of praxis, better than Marx even since he recommended the Irish fight for independence and to engage in electoralism. I've similarly seen italian-leftcoms mock MLs for their claim that it was singularly Khrushchev that "dismantled socialism" for being great man bullshit but then they turn around and say the same thing about Stalin, refusing to recognize that Lenin's opportunism led to Stalinism. Lenin even was the first to give up on internationalism when he made a treaty with Germany, which I accept as a rational move, but it still had its effects. Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was a prelude to the Molotov pact.
Even that quote doesn't work since they consider themselves the trve followers of Lenin when Lenin was writing about integrating with reactionary organizations like trade unions which, by its nature of existence, involves class collaboration. I just can't follow how they claim to simultaneously embody purity while ignoring all the contradictions to the theory they claim to engage with.
>>2340105>is there any theorist that writes about us all putting aside our differences and working together??? <3Here you go bro
>>2340192Having read some Bordiga I found that either this
>Bordiga's critique of Stalin/ML (really, democratic centralism) was literally "if I was in charge, I would have purged better." That's what organic centralism is when you remove the flowery, poetic language. That there is no need for any sort of democratic discourse because he's really smart and knows the trve scientific interpretation of praxisis the proper interpretation or some other Utopian bullshit like a "consensus based" party or "you are free to not participate in party decisions not to your liking becase communism=ultimate freedom" – which would go directly against the paragraph in OP.
Bordiga truly manages to appear "tankier than stalin" and "freer than the libertarians" at the same time when you measure together the potential interpretations.
>>is there any theorist that writes about us all putting aside our differences and working together??? <3This is just cowardly idiocy.
>>2342220Well, if not outright idiotic, you could argue that it is devilishly (strategically) ambiguous. Knowing the Italian communist milieu Bordiga was arguing in and often against, it would be understandable if he would pull such tricks.
Otherwise, he does have some good texts. He is similar to Lenin in the sense that he criticized the shit out of every mother fucking communist/socialist/anarchist/reformist/etc. outside his own party, but dissimilar in that he missed sometimes, plus he lived in a country that couldn't into revolution, so we will never know what Marxism-Bordigism looks like in praxis.
>>2342270"Bordiga on stuff" list
>Bordiga on Lenin<MORE LENIN, LENINER LENIN!!!>Bordiga on USSR economy<MORE COMMUNISM, LESS KOLKHOZES>Bordiga on Fascism<NAZIS ARE GAY, BUT ANTI-FASCISTS ARE GAYER>Bordiga on the Holocaust<THE OFFICIAL NUMBER IS TOO HIGH>Bordiga on Stalin<STALIN HAS NO PRINCIPLES, ALSO HIS PRINCIPLES ARE WRONG, MY PRINCIPLES ARE CORRECT EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T PRACTICE THEM FOR SOME REASON<Bordiga on deviations from communism<BOTH LEFT WING, RIGHT WING, CENTER WING, DEEP WING, 5TH DIMENSIONAL WING DEVIATIONS ARE WRONG, ONLY BORDIGA DEVIATION INVARIABLE IS CORRECTI'm being a jerk on purpose, but he can be a valuable read. He critiques the right people a lot, but then turns against everyone, leaving him alone in the "club of people being right" (membership: 1).
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