>>2405180>And again, why are autistic men entitled to romantic relationships, especially if they have shit social skills, can’t hold down a job, and see most women as mother figures rather than 50/50 partners?Everyone is entitled to a relationship. Doesn't mean you have to be the one to date them, but they deserve to be loved unless they're some horrible person that is a danger to those around them.
Communism won't be achieved until we eliminate loneliness.
>>2405182I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume she made no attempt to reason with the autistic man and simply treated him like a neurotypical normie where "no means no". Autistic people are bad at interpreting social cues, that doesn't mean they're creepy or misogynist or mean to harm you. Doesn't help that young men get a ton of mixed signals both by pop culture and the adults around them to be simultaneously aggressive and persistent with women, and without a woman in your life to teach you boundaries it's basically impossible to navigate alone. That's patriarchy, sure, but you're basically just singling out autistic men for not being as good at navigating intricate social situations, when they are usually the victim and one being alienated in social situations. People take advantage of autistic men all the time, especially women when you act awkwardly around them and they know you like them, they'll use you as much as they can for favors while justifying it to themselves as "just being nice" even though everyone around them knows what's going on. It's pretty frustrating that women will give you all the same cues they give a neurotypical man, but just because you're autistic she infantilizes you in her mind, and the mere notion of romantic attraction from your end immediately kills your relationship with her. If we're saying autistic men need to be able to take a hint, then I'd also say women need to stop being so patronizing towards us and treat us like men instead of infants, jfc. You don't have to care for me or act protective in the workplace if you're gonna get upset at me for developing an attraction over it.
Call me crazy but I think the way autistics approach romance is more genuine and sincere than the weird patriarchal rituals being performed in modern culture. When you like a girl, you want to get her a gift or spend time around her or get to know her interests and display your worth by engaging in those interests. That's how most autistic men conceptualize romance, something simplistic where time/effort spent is rewarded in kind by affection from the girl. In hunter gatherer cultures, this is pretty much how it works. If you strip society down to eliminate all the patriarchy and bullshit, autistic men aren't really in the wrong for behaving this way. It's everyone else that's wrong for attaching unrelated expectations like socioeconomic value, social class, and racial/cultural barriers to love.
But also I am a diagnosed autistic and I've learned through constant failures that the things women find attractive are simultaneously intangible and heavily based on culture rather than the material. Even if you're the nicest guy, displaying tons of loyalty and devotion, and shower her in thoughtful affection and praise, it's pretty normal for a woman to get the ick based on your employment status or your lack of friends or your choice of hobbies, things that are totally immaterial to romance, and autistic men struggle with accepting that society doesn't work the way it "should".
To put it in video game terms for my fellow autistics, autists view romance as a typical jrpg or fighting game. Everyone starts at 0, and you input resources, effort, time, and perseverance into it and are rewarded with an increasing power level, whether it's through tangible level ups like an rpg or through increased skill like fighting games. But the way normies, and especially women, view romance is more like a trading card game. If you don't have the best cards, you'll never be competitive. It doesn't matter how much time or effort you put into the game, without 3 copies of Blue Eyes Charizard Dragon in your deck, you'll never make it to regionals or even nationals. And when you play against a fellow player, especially a woman, they can sniff out if you lack key necessary cards in your deck at specific phases of the game, and will immediately get the ick. Your options at that point are either to give up on the game, or go back to the drawing board and play a deck you do have the cards for, ie installing Grindr. There is no perseverance or skill expression here, you cannot tryhard your way to getting a girlfriend, in fact the more you try the more of a losing streak you'll develop and the more discouraged you'll become.
why did I type all this I need my meds