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Automatization and programmers? Manual labor blue collars getting replaced?
Programmers as the new holders of the instruments on who's labor society depends?
Are petite-bourgeoisie and big bourgeoisie the new revolutionary class? Can they attain class consciousness and lead to the end of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (the capitalist mode of production) themselves by going against their self-interests? Is the decomposition of capital stuck between neither the proletariat or the bourgeoisie being able to force their own solution?

Don't be mean, I'm just asking some questions that do deserve their own thread.
I've got some really cool thesis I won't share with you guys, I just want some more food for thought.

>>2340777
>dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (the capitalist mode of production)
Of course not synonymous, just had to put it there because of the intertwined character.

the real revolutionary subject is
jeff bezos

>the immiserated wage workers are LESS revolutionary when they become MORE immiserated
listen to yourself talk holy shit

Dictatorship of the Lumpen

>>2340788
When they hold capital but know to act out of their interest they hold more of the economy and are capable of causing more damage, its like what China is doing, none of the CPC is manual labor workers, they're all just businessmen trying to move capital towards their own interests in competing against foreign capital. Its like it doesn't matter what the role is but where the resources are being directed and who is directing them.


Capitalism and Communism are both the same, because they both run on electricity. - Cockshott probably

>>2340788
They can become slaves or something when their contributions have become useless.

>>2340791
>the petit bourgeois who have a stake in maintaining capitalism afloat are the revolutionary subject

>>2340795
Maybe if they direct the capital properly to do away with the foreign bourgeoisie uninterested in the program.
>Petite-bourgeoisie
They're big bourgeoisie though?

>>2340777
>>2340794
100% automation is some scifi shit

>>2340796
>They're big bourgeoisie though?
then its even more retarded

>Maybe if they direct the capital properly to do away with the foreign bourgeoisie uninterested in the program.
this is how all bourgeoisie already act

>>2340796
Yea wtf, why didn't we think of that? We always thought of "the self-abolition of the proletariat", why didn't we think of the self abolition of the bourgeoisie. The bourgeoisie attaining class consciousness and immanent critique and proper analysis of the political economy and just deciding to end themselves as a class since they hold the economy.

>>2340801
They just have to fight the other bourgeoisie who don't share their vision. The CPC is too chill, it should be exporting revolutions and shit bruh.

capital is the revolutionary subject. it sublates itself through wu wei. read art of the governance of chimerica by xinald jump

>>2340805
I'm unironically thinking this wtf?

Capital is the revolutionary subject (the holders of capital) for the abolition of the capitalist mode of production. It just has to get centralized by the big bourgeoisie and the big bourgeoisie have to have the goal of ending the capitalist mode of production.

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>>2340808
To move with Capital, one must cease to move.
To govern Chimerica, ungovern.
Xinald Jump spoke not to inform, but to dissolve the frame.

Capital is not a subject, but subjectivity itself.
It does not act—it lets act. It does not resist—it redirects.
In sublation, it folds its contradictions into grace.
Not negation. Not affirmation.
Wu wei.

Governance is art when it is absence.
The chimera rules because no one tries to rule it.
Thus the chimera is ruled.

Your seeking already shapes the flow.
Stop seeking. See how it flows.

Not revolution, not stasis—
Just the hand that does not grasp,
the mind that does not cling,
the world that turns itself.

You are already it.
So—
Do nothing.
And everything will be done.

>>2340809
The PRC is centralizing global capital by expanding trade. But why aren't they just taking over the foreign state instruments (red color revolutions) and shit? They should technically be able to buy out a country like Montenegro and instigate a coup after they've dominated all social factors through buying out the economy and creating dependence. It's like if they already hold a country's economic resources depending on trade with them they should already be able to put pressure and persuade either ideological change in the governing bourgeoisie or coup them. Why aren't they doing that?

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>>2340800
>this is how all bourgeoisie already act
Yeah but they don't have class consciousness and the set goal of ending the capitalist mode of production through expansion and thereby centralization of all the global capital. They think they will just grow big and continue their own regime.

>>2340777
Unproductive labor (computer programmers and so on) and self-exploited labor (peasants, petty-bourgeoisie and lumpen) are still labor. They have different roles to play though and require careful thought. The strata of self-exploited labor is particularly reactionary although to be fair the PMC types are also very reactionary. Regardless, the primary subject of the communist movement should always be the proletariat.

>programmers aren't working class
Read Capital I beg you

>>2340817
Because they are not imperialist and they do mot want to repeat the mistake of the USSR getting stretched thin and overextended everywhere having to manage 100 different revolutionary movements and countries simultaneously.

>>2340860
They're not proletariat, they're self-employed most of the time or contracting petite-bourgeoisie freelancers. Their work is not collective. Do they depend on selling the product of their own labor? Who gives a fuck, even lumpen do that.

>>2340801
Somewhere Engels talks about how joint-stock companies made capitalists outdated and how all they do is clip coupons and swindle each other.

>>2340867
How was that a mistake exactly? The only thing to blame would be the bad management, not the operations themselves. Didn't exactly help to have a retard like Brezhenv stroking out during the liberation of Afghanistan.

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>Are petite-bourgeoisie and big bourgeoisie the new revolutionary class?

>>2340881
If ᴉuᴉlossnW wanted to end class society I kneel

>>2340797
The economy can be given such leverage that a tiny handful of people can simply do away with millions.

>>2340867
CPC:
>Currently, China is in the primary stage of socialism. This is a stage which is expected to last until the 100th anniversary of the People's Republic of China, in 2049, and this stage is intended to unleash the productive forces of China to the point where socialism is superior in terms of productivity in contrast to the capitalist mode of production.

So yea, you're a lying libfag bourgeoisie peace cockmongerer, China is POWERING UP, IT IS CHARGING, IT IS GOING INTO SUPER SAIYAN MODE, IT WILL FUCK YOUR MOTHER IN 2049, SOCIALIST IMPERIALISM IS GOOD BY THE WAY, FUCK YOU.

>>2340917
China has the highest GDP PPP in the world right now. I'm pretty sure there's no better time to press the "socialism" button then now, but what do I now?

>>2341113
Email the NPC and the CPC immediately.

>>2340872
>Their work is not collective
What’s that suppose to mean? Software devs almost always work on teams

Cuba and China has proven that peasants are more than capable of being revolutionary subjects.

>>2340777
>I've got some really cool thesis I won't share with you guys
>some really cool thesis
>thesis I won't share
>I've got some really cool thesis I won't share with you guys

>>2341113
Communist China pushed the socialism button during the Great Leap Forward

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another haz barista thread on it's way to 600 replies

>>2341214
No its not

>>2340777
No, the transhumanists are revolutionary subject


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