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SPIEF: the emerging multipolar world's ongoing economic forum in Russia
vs.
G7/Bilderberg: ongoing imperialist world's economic forum going on in Canada/Sweden, hosted by Swedens GigaPorky Wallenberg family

https://swentr.site/on-air/619944-putin-spief-2025-plenary-session/ (live right now)
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2025/06/16/from-the-rockies-to-stockholm-ignoring-the-global-crisis/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallenberg_family

President of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, just 10 minutes ago @ SPIEF:
>full capitalism sucks, full socialism sucks, we need a mixture of the two systems

I remember Zizek's scared-shitless-lib prediction from around 2005 or so that the great statesman for whom statues will be built around the world will be Deng Xiaping, because his economic model will prove to be irresistible to developing nations. In any case, and Zizek aside,
>you will live to see Asia become the next socdem bloc after the fall of socdemism in Scandinavia

Meanwhile, at the imperialist economic conference:
>What are the G7 leaders discussing? Naturally, it is the accelerating Middle East crisis after the Israeli attack on Iran; the continued war in Ukraine and the need for more sanctions on Russia and arms for Ukraine; what to do about Trump’s trade tariffs; how to impose a range of cuts in international aid to poor countries by most G7 governments in order to make room for increased arms spending; and the need for a common policy against China.

>The main discussion for the Bilberberg participants is how to strangle economically, politically and militarily, China. As the American MAGA Republican Jason Smith put it: he was in Sweden to “continue fighting to combat the economic and national security threat China poses to our great nation”. Fellow Bilderberg attendee Robert Lighthizer, economic adviser close to Trump, echoed that sentiment: “China to me is an existential threat to the United States”.


>In the 1970s, the Wallenberg family businesses employed 40% of Sweden's industrial workforce and represented 40% of the total worth of the Stockholm stock market.
>family's more than 100-year dominance of the Swedish banking
>it was estimated that the family indirectly controlled one-third of the Swedish Gross National Product
>>>>The Wallenbergs have a very low-key public profile, eschewing conspicuous displays of wealth. The family motto is "Esse, non Videri" (Latin for "To be rather, than to seem).
<when your family's motto is "we better hide our disgusting amount of hoarded wealth or we gonna get minecrafted"

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>“Eighty years ago, China, the USSR, and the anti-Hitler coalition overcame Nazism. Today, we must reaffirm the UN Charter and work toward a more just and rational system of global governance,” Chinese Vice Premier Ding Xuexiang said.
https://swentr.site/russia/619598-spief-2025-kicks-off-russia/

>>2342002
Uncritical suppirt for DoTP countries like China, DPRK, Vietnam and Cuba. Everything else is matter of opinion ans a conflict between nationalist capitalists. If there is revisionism it is this 3rd world capitalism crowd.

>>2342020
The future is China.

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Which comes first, Mr. Youtube expert, the collapse of Chynah or the collapse of Russia?

>>2342023
Critical support for non-imperialist capitalist states. It's the only valid position while we still live under imperialism.
>b-but they are the next imperialists
It will take like 90% of these countries represented at SPIEF 100 years to reach the level of development of G7 countries – that is if they are allowed to develop. (Currently, they are not.)

(when it's not about le cultural politics) RT comment section gives me hope: https://swentr.site/africa/619970-niger-nationalizes-french-operated-uranium-mine/

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Russia on verge of recession – minister
<A downturn is not inevitable and would depend on policy decisions, Economic Development Minister Maksim Reshetnikov has said

>Russia’s economy is on the brink of entering a recession, Economic Development Minister Maksim Reshetnikov warned on Thursday.


>Since the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, Russia’s economy has operated under unprecedented Western sanctions aimed at isolating the country. Despite the restrictions, it has shown resilience, outperforming forecasts. GDP grew by 4.1% in 2023 and 4.3% in 2024, making Russia the world’s fourth-largest economy by purchasing power parity (PPP), which adjusts for cost-of-living differences across countries.


>“The figures show a cooling, but all our data is essentially a rearview mirror,” Reshetnikov said during a panel at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF 2025). “Based on current business sentiment and indicators, we are, in my view, already on the brink of entering a recession.”


>The minister stressed that a recession was not a foregone conclusion, later telling reporters that whether it could be avoided would largely hinge on policy choices, particularly interest rate decisions.


>“I didn’t predict a recession. I said we’re on the brink. From here on out, everything will depend on our decisions,” he said.


>Finance Minister Anton Siluanov described the state of Russia’s economy as “cooling,” but assured that “summer always follows winter.”


>Central Bank Head Elvira Nabiullina characterized the current phase as an “exit from overheating.”


>“Our demand-side economy was expanding, while the supply side lagged behind — that’s what caused the overheating and inflation. It’s fairly straightforward,” she explained.


>Earlier this month, the Bank of Russia cut its key interest rate by 100 basis points to 20%, citing a slowdown in inflation. It marked the first rate reduction since 2022 when the central bank adopted a tight monetary policy to stabilize the economy amid a wave of Western sanctions.


>The central bank projects that Russia’s economic growth will slow to 1-2% in 2025, down from 4.1% in 2024, as a result of its monetary policy, while the government maintains a more optimistic outlook, expecting growth of 2.5% next year.

https://swentr.site/business/619964-russia-economy-recession/

>>2342002
Nice to know that imperialism = white countries carving up the world, whereas white AND asian countries carving up the world = humble gemeinschaft

Long live the Fuhrer

>>2342038
>Critical support but also don’t you dare criticize my wholesome dictatorships of the bourgeoisie

>>2342002
>you will live to see Asia become the next socdem bloc after the fall of socdemism in Scandinavia
It already is. All the young socems already use China a an example of everything they believe in.

>Russia and China are not creating a new world order, but giving shape to what is already emerging, Putin has said. “It’s like the sunrise – you can’t stop it,” he remarked.

>>2342056
Imperialism isn't about race, but economics. There are "white" people living in countries being imperialized and "black" people living in countries doing the hecking imperialism, fyi.

>>2342058
Criticize them all you want, but don't forget that due to the objective historical context we are in your criticism inevitably aligns you with the forces of imperialism. Sometimes it's better to just stfu, even though you have valid criticism of, say, Iran, or Russia, etc.

>>2342159
>Imperialism isn’t about race but economics
Definitely not when MLs are discussing it 😂
>>2342169
>Criticize them but also remember leftoid honkies in the West will be big mad if you do!
I’m okay with that

>>2342159
>countries being imperialized
lmao pseuds here talk like theres still semifeudal countries left

>>2342064
But to have a Chinese-style succdem, you actually need a Marxist-Leninist vanguard party!

>>2342201
>>2342207
You (😂😂😂) don't understand what imperialism is.

>>2342064
China is a DotP. Socdems cant into Dotp. China is not socdem.

thx for listening

im anti imperialism until one countrys imperialism goes too far. then i support a different countrys imperialism, until it goes too far, so i support the other side until it goes too far, then i

>>2342219
i have a scientific understanding of imperialism as opposed to 99% of this shithole whining because bourgeois states are acting in their self interest instead of forming the wholesome left anti imperialism alliance

great "marxism" going on here

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>>2342224
A bourgeois state is not automatically an imperialist state. Like 80% of bourgeois states aren't even imperialist.

>inb4

Yeah, all those poor exploited Canadians working in Nigerian owned factories on Canadian soil!!!

>>2342223
imperialism is not when war
imperialism is not when bourgeois state

thx for listening to Marxism101

>>2342236
>>2342238
>A bourgeois state is not automatically an imperialist
LMFAO

goes to show its all run of the mill liberals here when they reduce imperialism to government programs

>>2342242
all states are imperialist. there is no nuance. everything just is. the shit i took this morning? imperialism against my roommates

>>2342242
imperialism is not when war
imperialism is not when bourgeois state
imperialism is not when government program

imperialism, however, is when a country's companies extract surplus value from the working classes of other countries through capital flight, becoming net benefactors from superprofits while the other countries remain impoverished due to not being able to take even a 'normal' capitalist developmental road

also, these imperialist states create bureaucratic, military, law enforcement, legal, political, banking, diplomatic infrastructures to ensure that their companies supplying their own markets with said surplus value can keep on going indefinitely

also, a country can be taking in surplus value from foreign workers in less developed countries through capital flight WHILE itself being in the same position faced with another country's superior capital

in such a case the question is if said country actually develops above said (army, diplomatic, banking, etc.) institutions in an attempt to secure itself a future imperialist position in the world production chain or not

protip: this is why china isn't imperialist

thx for listening to Marxism101

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>>2342002
>Multipolar vs. imperialist economic congresses
Both these congresses are imperialist by their very fucking nature OP. They are both headed by imperialist states on how to divvy up the world among their "allies" and adversaries.

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>>2342218
No, you don't. China isn't "Marxist-leninist", how do I know that ?, they aren't poor, and are still around.


>>2342002
Are you for Dictatorship of Proletariat or with USA. Easily question every communist from marxist to anarchist can agree on because its not an internal matter outside CPUSA.

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Lenin had a pretty inconsistent conception of imperialism, one that I don't agree with. Nevertheless he had the correct position on the war, one which can be extrapolated to all wars of a strictly inter-bourgeois character.

>>2342343
>Lenin had a pretty inconsistent conception of imperialism, one that I don't agree with.
<imperialism is when two bourgeois states
Let's be honest here, you don't actually have a criticism of Lenin's conception because you haven't even read The Book, and it shows because your understanding has way less explanatory and predictive power.

>>2342350
>hurr you didn't read it because you criticized it
Just because the majority of this shithole is illiterate doesn't make me one.

The whole thing is essentially condemned by his determination to find in imperialism a new ""stage"" of capitalism. But, good dialectician (lol) that he is, Lenin remains determined to deduce a change in quality (a new epoch of capitalism) from a change in quantity (size of capital, etc).

>>2342343
Okay Westoid

>>2342357
t. amerifat

>>2342354
>The whole thing is essentially condemned by his determination to find in imperialism a new ""stage"" of capitalism.
It is demonstrably a new stage of capitalism, because it fundamentally alters how capitalist economies can develop, and compared to, let's call it, the 'classical stage' of capitalism as observed by Marx and Engels (although both realized capitalism and class war was already fundamentally changing within their lifetimes) the game has different rules.

The problem isn't that you criticize Lenin's conception, the problem is that you first offer no criticism and just call it wrong, then when confronted with the lack of your argument you offer us this bullshit about Lenin being bad at dialectics.

If we were living still under the same system with the same rules as did Marx and Engels the correct formula would still be 'sure, let Britain colonize India, at least they bring capitalism there', but we've since seen that that's not really what happens. What is created is a retarded model of capitalism with comprador bourgeoisie instead a national one, with a (globally speaking) sub-proletariat striving for national liberation instead of class struggle (for obvious fucking reasons), and a complacent labor aristocracy in the imperialist core.

But then again, I'm talking to a moron who thinks
>if commodity production is present in country A and country B
>country A's system = country B's system

NEWSFLASH:
THE ISRAHELLI ATTACK ON IRAN JUST PROVED THAT THE SHANGHAI COOPERATION ORGANIZATION IS PAPER TIGER

>President of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, just 10 minutes ago @ SPIEF:
>full capitalism sucks, full socialism sucks, we need a mixture of the two systems
Lmao, doesn't literally every country now have such a system, what a dumb phrase. Same with Vietnam talking about how they must get rid of "prejudices" against private businesses. Porky nonsense, get rid of those people, establish a planned economy alongside red terror.

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bruh
>Russia has zero interest in the ‘Group of Seven’ (G7) format, as it is no longer viable, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has stated. He explained that the global dominance of the countries making up the group is nearing its end.

bruh
>On Friday, Peskov said that “our attitude toward the [G7], it’s well known. It has long since stopped being an interesting and in-demand format.”

bruh
>“Russia does not consider such a format viable because global trends indicate that the G7’s share in global affairs and global economy will be inexorably shrinking.” The official noted that “this is not seasonal volatility,” but a long-term trend.

bruh
>Speaking at the G7 summit in Canada on Monday, US President Donald Trump expressed regret over the removal of Russia from the group back in 2014.

>>2342221
Corporatist China claims to not be a DotP, but a "people's democratic dictatorship
You are a sucker

>>2342496
>The people’s democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on an alliance of workers and peasants, which in essence is a dictatorship of the proletariat, has been consolidated and developed.

>>2342513
>which in essence is a
holy shit china is essencialists!?!?? 😱😱


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