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>japanese right wing loses big during tokyo election
>japanese right wing win big cause all the votes went to other right wing parties
japanese communists also lost some of their most commie blocs they held for decades, reiwa didnt even gain a single seat

>>2347838
guess focusing on cultural war wasn't the right more, just made the needs and demands be captured by the right wing rethoric.

>>2347838
>>2347859
More like they lost the culture war decades ago and there is no hope for that segensrate weeb nation.

>>2347868
the proles have chosen, weebs will stay.

we should implant SCP-style memetic killing agents in prominent animes to kill all weebs and thus cure humanity from the sin of weeb kind

>>2347868
im voting for the pillow

>>2347879
Weebs WON, deal with it commie.(Shitpost)

>>2347879
>>2347890
Yours is false dichotomy

>>2347890
why won't you nut in my mouth instead of into your dakimakura? weebism is a tragic waste of human seed. semen volumes are decreasing day by day due to microplastics and yet you still wont' share this precious resource with your fellow man.

And this is a bad thing because? Any communist party that isn't explicitly "leftcom" or "ultra" as you retards call it is just an opportunist party that butchers our movement in order to gain electoral seats. The electoral loss of self-described communist/socialist parties anywhere in the world a victory for the REAL movement.

>>2347901
True, weeb commies accepted trve proletarian art.
>>2347903
>why won't you nut in my mouth instead of into your dakimakura?
because i can't fuck you through the internet, the distance is too great.
lets wish for a miracle for that.

japan will turn fascist again. since ww2 it's fascism was only put in suspension. they kept all the organizations, the imperial institution, principles and ethics. it's all been dormant under the surface.

>>2347838
Communism isn’t a party or policy program, communism is the real movement that will sublate the current state of things hence japan today is much closer to communism without this so called “party”.

>>2347925
the TRVE line won't ever achieve anything, so it's womp womp either way.

>>2347838
sanseito is a really far-right party full of nutters, the current prime minister is very liberal, most opposition parties were trying to poach him so conservatives and right-wingers hate him even in his own party

For all the talk that Germans get in leftist internet circles for being a reactionary people that should have been uprooted permanently after world war II, there really is something similar to say about the japanese as well. Their culture just seems innately reactionary somehow. I'm not going to say I understand why scientifically, but what other conclusion can I reach when the response to Shinzo Abe by the Japanese is, "we need someone even more reactionary"?

>>2348010
That is why people like them. They represent kind of the ideal fascist society.

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It's crazy how such an insular, globally irrelevant country, has so much false importants because they perfected the art of making smut cartoons for asocial perverts. I interact with people around the world everyday on here and other sites, but never any Japs.

>>2347838
japanese politics is strange, one party state but its because there are actually way too many parties and they don't consolidate enough

>>2347838
Good. Japanese Communists are just useful idiots for the neoliberal regime. They're one of the most anti-China party in Japan.

>>2348010
Japan is basically an American colony. I don't see it as different from Ukraine being extremely reactionary. America is very good at psyops and funding fascism worldwide.

>>2348010
the japanese where among the most radical during the second half of the 20th century thoughever

it is kinda curious it led to nothing

>>2348812
didn't the USA fund yakuza groups to destroy japanese communists?

>>2348812
Eh its a different kind of idealist stupidity. Pretty much every far leftist in Japan ever has been some variaty of insane weirdo fed up with the ultra-conservative society so becomes a """""communist""""" to be rebellious. In reality they know nothing about Marxism or Communism and are just reactionaries in red paint for the most part.

>>2348010
Both are true, Germany and Japan are abominations. Japan is basically the UK if it was completley isolated rather than just a little isolated so they turned into freaks due to being uninfluenced by any culture other than China. And Germany is a fake country bound together by a fake 19th century idea of a country, Austria is has actual legitimacy though so they can stay around maybe Bavaria aswell.

>>2348848
source?

>>2347903

Unironically agree. All this pornographied masturbation is a waste of resources at so many levels.

>>2348879
You can go look at the JCP's website to see their political positions yourself. https://www.jcp.or.jp/english/
or on its wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Communist_Party

>The party at present advocates the establishment of a democratic society based on pacificism. It believes that this objective can be achieved by working within an electoral framework while carrying out an extra-parliamentary struggle against "imperialism and its subordinate ally, monopoly capital". As such, the JCP does not advocate violent revolution, but rather a "democratic revolution" to achieve "democratic change in politics and the economy". It accepts the current constitutional position of the emperor but opposes the involvement of the Imperial House in politics. A staunchly anti-militarist party, the JCP firmly supports Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution and seeks to dissolve the Japan Self-Defense Forces. It opposes Japan's military alliance with the United States as an unequal relationship and infringement of Japan's national sovereignty.


This is a patently anti-Marxist and idealist political program if you need that proven any more than that I don't know what to tell you. Or you can look at crazies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Red_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Red_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left_in_Japan

>From 1948, Japan had a powerful, centralized, nationwide student movement thanks to the establishment of Zengakuren (the "All-Japan Federation of Student Self-Government Associations") that same year.[1] However at least initially, Zengakuren remained firmly under the sway of the Japan Communist Party (JCP), having been founded with JCP urging and assistance.[2] However, in 1950, in response to criticism by Joseph Stalin, the JCP embarked on a course of immediate, violent communist revolution in Japan, ordering student activists into the mountains to form "mountain village guerrilla squads."[3][4] This policy proved to be an unmitigated disaster for the JCP, which completely reversed itself by 1955, disavowing the violence and in part blaming it on the student activists themselves.[5][6] This volte-face enraged many student activists, who began to increasingly question whether they should continue to follow the orders of the JCP.


does this sound like a party with a pricipled and educated political program?

>>2348835 (me)

>Instead, the SCAP and MacArthur adopted the Red Purge, purging and dispossessing members of Labor unions, the Japanese Communist Party, and leftist academia.[138] During the Red Purge Willoughby and his associates began paying right-wing criminals and Yakuza to repress the left.[139] The Yakuza were used in strikebreaking operations as well as attacks on leaders of the Japanese left.[128] Willoughby and his subordinates became described as "obsessed" and "paranoid" with finding plots concerning Communist infiltration.[140]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Japan#Cooperation_with_organized_crime

Personally I think it’s good the far right won the most

i think that porky looks to japan and s. korea with pride, as these countries are the greatest examples of capitalism, and western countries are already headed towards that same path.
what i mean is that japan is the ideal liberal society with a majority of manchildren who do nothing but work and consoom all day, and any sort of social rebellion, even just cutting your hair a different way, is seen as incredibly shameful and will get you cut out of most social groups. these japs have insane work weeks and literally 0 social life and never complain, theyre like perfect slave ants

>>2349178
well you do hear conservative politicians admire japan and occupied korea and bring them up as models of how the West needs to copy. traditionalism, hard work, and cultural homogeneity.

>>2349178
Their annual work hours are lower than the US, they have public health care, and they can rent an apartment in Tokyo for like $900. Their country is socdem, lmao

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>>2349178
>society with a majority of manchildren who do nothing but work and consoom all day
I take it you've never been to China (based socialists or something)

>>2349246
sure, china is closer to japan than they are to any form of socialism

>>2349246
It's so fucking funny to me that /leftypol/ will be mad at others for being manchildren when the entire story of the site is stunted millennials and maladjusted zoomers driving away all the effortposters through low-effort bantz

imageboards are an innately evil medium that reward being a stupid cunt and should be destroyed

>>2349257
Trvke.

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>ITT mfs that can't use google

>>2349265
Comrade Pol Pot…

>>2349265
Cambodiabros are you alright?

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>>2349265
>Germans stereotyped as overworkers
<Actually has the least working hours on the globe
>Italians stereotyped as lazy
<Actually has more working hours than Germany
>Japanese stereotyped as overworkers
<Actually has the same working hours as Italy
Bonus:
>Japan has low birthrates! It's gonna disappear this century!
<Once again has the same stats as Italy (1.2 fertility)
The world is running on vibes.

>>2349285
The world runs on capital. It just uses a lot of vibes to justify itself.

>>2349285
>>2349310
The internet has, if nothing else, taught me to have absolute contempt for vibes people

>>2349265
I thought the "japanese have a terrible work culture" was more about being forced to go drinking with the boss after hours and being socially pressured into doing unpaid,unregistered extra hours to finish your "projects",something that won't show up in stats

>>2349330
>being socially pressured into doing unpaid,unregistered extra hours to finish your "projects",something that won't show up in stats
It's not much better here in the US. Work in an office at a job with tight deadlines. You'll be answering emails and slack messages before going to bed. Japan uses shame, Americans use guilt. Don't even get me started on "hustle" culture. Fuck, when we have a release about to drop we regularly put in 60 hours per week. Burn out is common. Also, work from home means your supervisor knows you can hop on the computer at any time and "do what's necessary". I can't even collect overtime because I'm salaried, but I'm still forced to put 40 hours on my time sheet so we don't overbill our clients.

>>2348812
because they didn't have access to guns

>>2348848
>idealist stupidity
you are projecting your own idealism. you think there is no class conflict in a highly industrialized capitalist country? the rest is vibes and orientalism

>>2349348
>Japan uses shame, Americans use guilt.
nice vibes bro. the shame vs guilt thing has always been nonsense. the reality is in the differences in labor regulations and access to the justice system

>>2349246
not to mention that japan is one of the few places where you can go to a bar and talk to strangers and make friends as an adult. there are literally no bars where I live, only restobars where you are supposed to go with an pre-existing friend group

>>2349370
Nah thats not idealism tardy, what is idealism however is ignoring the cultural and economic base of japan that pre-disposes its population towards reactionary thought. Stop being weabaoo manchild and think like a Marxist for once.

>>2349370
Uh fuck off with your "Le vibes" argument you reddit brained moron.
Labor laws matter, sure, but culture decides whether people use them. Shame keeps you quiet, in the U.S, guilt makes you blame yourself. Different methods, same outcome and overwork normalized, under-reporting common, burnout seen as personal failure. There are laws on paper but they aren't enforced.

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>>2348010
>I'm not going to say I understand why scientifically
I think picrel has a pretty decent explanation.
It's just a consequence of having to form a national historical narrative despite never having accomplished anything aside from theft and warfare.

>>2349383
how crazy it is that the hyperborean genetic guilt culture didn't exist before neoliberal policies dismantled the new deal reforms
it's cope to refuse to dismantle the racist myth that japan (and now china) use slave labor unlike the west. when confronted with the facts, you just claim that it even if people are overworked in the west, they are still different from the orientals. in the long run people will always use their labor laws if it is a realistic prospect - you are using an unfalsifiable excuse to cover and romanticize their obstruction, if not directly by simply removing those regulations, then indirectly by allowing loopholes, increasing litigation costs, private mediation, or any other class lawfare maneuver

>>2349382
>class interests?
>no, the japanese workers are just children, either docile or troublesome but ultimately capricious
you are literally ignoring the economics and class conflict, wtf are you talking about

>>2348892
To me it sounds like they blame the failure on Stalin???

>>2349414
maybe the soviet union promised them more support but didn't come through in the end after the korean war was over. people forget that using the local communist parties as bargaining chips was a common practice of soviet diplomacy. it is like how the kurdish movements can be divided between those that are willing to be vessels for american foreign policy and those that are not

>>2349370
>because they didn't have access to guns

they did they just used them in a retarded manner

>thread about failure of the communist movements
>0 mention of material conditions
japan hasn't remained capitalist because of le mythical japanese culture o anime is because the economy rapidly devoloping and rising the living conditions of most of the population

>>2349405
Interesting. I'll have to think about that more before coming to any firm conclusions but it does seem plausible.
If socialism is seen as a means of furthering the development of a national project from bourgeois shackles it does make sense that the national project of japan would be incompatible with socialism.

>>2349841
N-Nooo!!! They are a hivemind and clash of civilization and aliens invaded and they work 90 hours per week and and and

Meanwhile in reality: Japan is basically scandinavian socdem because Japanese porky shat their pants at the student protests in the 60s and 70s

>>2349265
Real working hours or unpaid extra hours?

>>2350494
>Japan is socdem
Lmao don't kid yourself retard

>>2350503
it's more acurate to say they were socdem, but it has been heavily neoliberized compared to it's past.

>>2350503
>public healthcare
>public transport
>public housing
>high purchasing power
>low rent
>low real estate prices
>less work hours than the US
They are scandi socdem.

>>2347931
I realized this after living in Japan for a few years and it’s honestly frightening. And impressive at the same time.

The fact that most Japanese are racist and believe in the Yamato mythology is proof.

>>2349405
When you combina nationalism that claims homogeneity and a very strict hierarchical society you end up with a very oppressive society. That’s Japan.

Nationalism -> We are all Yamato -> Pressure to conform (be “Japanese”) -> Obedience to authority -> Suppress personal creativity

And this is why Japan has so much weird stuff too. Because people try to be who they really are in their free time. It looks contradictory but it isn’t once you understand it.

>>2350638
>>2350834
westoids when they go to japan and somebody hits them with the 'wow your japanese is so good :)' (this is literally jim crow 2.0)

>>2350558
thats just neoliberal shit

>>2349405
>Conquering their neighbors is what makes Japan, Japan. Without it their culture would just be whatever Korean or Chinese envoys left them as good-will presents.
>This is why they refuse to apologize and refuse to give up their claim to Korean and Chinese territory.
Hmm. I think its overexaggerates the importance of national accomplishment to having some progressive element. I'm sure it's easier to inspire the Chinese to be on the cutting edge of social development, them knowing that they've been pioneering social and state formation for thousands of years, but I don't think that should NECESSARILY make it IMPOSSIBLE in Japan. Probably I think the Japanese servile culture plays a role too.

>>2351108
kek the final cope
read the book

>>2352253
>m-muh sweet nippon are actually based socialists!

>>2350558
Hey… That sounds just like Chynah!!!

>>2349257
imageboards are a fine medium, their failures are always failures of leadership. they're like a nuclear reactor: incredibly powerful if you operate it right, and incredibly cancerous if you fuck up.

4chan-derived imageboard culture scorns moderation, but an imageboard can only be good when moderators with good taste closely watch the board, purging bad content and letting rule-skirting good content slide. this is made worse because most people imagine that the key unit of the imageboard is the poster and not the post - they try to keep out "bad posters" rather than purging bad posts.

>>2349370
>because they didn't have access to guns
lmao you have no idea what you're talking about. the one thing the Japanese far left didn't lack was random revolutionary violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Village_Operation_Units
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laju_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_French_Embassy_attack_in_The_Hague
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_AIA_building_hostage_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lod_Airport_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_404
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_472_(1977)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Naples_bombing

>>2349405
Then why is Japan not firmly pro-Israel?

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>>2350558
>public healthcare
wrong. 70 percent of hospitals in japan are capitalist
>public transport
wrong. rail in japan is capitalist https://theworld.org/stories/2025/01/23/japans-transit-system-is-private-should-other-countries-consider-the-same
>public housing
wrong. 80 percent of households rent from capitalist.
>high purchasing power
wrong. japanese wages are notoriously depressed
>low rent
wrong
>low real estate prices
wrong
>less work hours than the US
Their low working hours is nothing to brag about because it demonstrates their parasitic imperialist nature.
>>2352253
You simp for capitalism.


>>2352349
>socdem is socialism
Read the book, ziggerdengist

>>2349405
>>2350638
>>2350834
But people call me sakaist when I copy paste a post like this and switch out japanese with white and yamato race with aryan race

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>>2352474
They've got new 1000 sq foot houses in Tokyo for like $200k
>Their low working hours is nothing to brag about because it demonstrates their parasitic imperialist nature.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, first its
>'They work like 500 hours per week!!!!!!! They are slave ants hivemind brooo'
But now its switched to
>'Low working hours are bad, it's imperialism'
KEEEEEEK

Reminder that this shill is the well known Hazbin hotel spammer that simps for Trump in the /usapol/ threads.

Isn't it weird how first world countries are way more socialist than whatever neoliberal shithole Thirdworldists simp for?

>>2352593
They are redfash, not of the tankie kind, but straight up fascists. RT is sucking amerilard penis right now, and of all Western countries the US is closest to their neoliberal paradise with badass hetero strongman dictator and a badass theocracy. If a zigger or dengist is crying about a random country, then that country is guaranteed to have some kind of succdem policies in place where proles aren't turned into minced meat in factories, or, hold on, ziggers unlocked trench warfare again, so thats a new wholesome option too nowadays for third world proles.

>>2352573
Anyone that associates socdems with Japan's shitty and failing Keynesian policies is retarded

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>>2352628
Now remove the top 1% from US wages, keeeek
Atlanta vs Tokyo keeeeeeek (Atlanta still somehow more expensive)

>>2352628
Looking at the median wage when talking about owning a house in Tokyo is cheating. You can't make American comparisons because there's nowhere in America as ridiculously central to it as Tokyo is to Japan. (at best, there's California, but even that's dodgy.)

Japan's economy has basically been frozen since the 1990s. The upside of getting 1990s wages is that you're paying 1990s prices. (Until recently, where inflation has finally started to bite.) That has advantages beyond monetary value: never having to suffer sticker shock is nothing to sniff at. If your options are no real wage growth and no inflation, or no real wage growth and inflation (hello, Britain!), you may as well take the former.

>>2352637
Japan isn't really Keynesian, it's just institutionally owned by construction companies. Just as Britain is institutionally incapable of building anything, Japan is institutionally incapable of stopping building stuff.

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>>2352578
Atlanta median wage is 71,620 https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-Atlanta,GA
Tokyo median wage is 41,640 https://blog.arealty.jp/tokyo-median-income/

The Atlanta house is ~1.62% cheaper relative to local median wages.
>>2352593 >>2352609
>zigger
stop being racist imperialists. The proletarians of Communist nations are far better of than Japan. The Japanese proletariat suffers greatly.
>>2352648
>source is credit suice
rigged capitalist methodology.
>>2352649
>Japan's economy has basically been frozen since the 1990s. The upside of getting 1990s wages is that you're paying 1990s prices. (Until recently, where inflation has finally started to bite.) That has advantages beyond monetary value: never having to suffer sticker shock is nothing to sniff at. If your options are no real wage growth and no inflation, or no real wage growth and inflation (hello, Britain!), you may as well take the former.
Wrong. lot of cope despite the fact that Japan's wages have fallen over the last decade while AmeriKKKas' rose.

>>2350494
is not because of that is because the US knew japan would quicly fall to communism without concessions to the proles and the island was of too much strategic importance to let that happen

>>2352648
slovakia is aes


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