Yes I know worker coops aren't socialism because they still have markets and commodity production but could they at least break the power of the bourgeoisie since there would be no more capitalists at most there would be proletarians and petit bourgeoises
Given this isn't turning 100% of for profit businesses in a country into worker coops a good intermediate goal since it starves the bourgeoisie of their profits which they use to rule with politics?
>>2355640Now if I remember correctly, China had a lot of cooperatives during the era of the GPCR, but by the 00s a lot of those had returned to private ownership out of a lack of dedication from the members. People stopped showing up except a handful who eventually took private control. So even public ownership can decay into private ownership. As always, eternal vigilance is required. There is no socialism button where socialism becomes permanent. Protection of the revolution is necessary. One thing I think people have trouble appreciating is that when you win you have to wield power. By wielding power you become the "establishment" that you previously hated and sought to present yourself as the opposite of. So you have to distinguish yourself from past establishments while still wielding power enough to keep society socialist from wannabe bourgeois counterrervolutionaries.
>>2355625There are cooperative versions of banks called credit unions
>Credit unions are not-for-profit financial cooperatives owned by their members. When you join a credit union, you become a member-owner with voting rights and a say in how the organization is run. Credit unions operate under a cooperative structure where profits are returned to members through better rates, lower fees, and improved services. Each member has an equal vote in selecting the board of directors, regardless of how much money they have deposited. Credit unions may have membership restrictions based on geography, employer or association. >>2355640it's because you fuckers think abstractly rather than dialectically
>"are cooperatives good, in vaccuum, in themselves, metaphysically? the idea of a cooperative, is it good, in principle?"instead of doing concrete analysis of a concrete situation and asking whether cooperatives are good as part of a comprehensive revolutionary strategy / socialist construction
the short answer to is [anything] good, is that anything done outside of concrete revolutionary strategy is bad, because everything done in isolation under capitalism is just participating in capitalism