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The "famines" argument against socialism is ridiculous and can be debunked by thinking critically for a single minute.

Every major famine in a socialist country was the last of its kind. Yes there were absolutely preventable famines (e.g the 4 Pests Campaign), but they were generally the last famines to occur in those countries.

Capitalism causes ongoing famines in the 3rd world. Because of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, capitalists need to offset this by increasing the rate of exploitation by lowering wages, done by moving the industrial heartland of the world from the west to Asia and Africa, paying people next to nothing. There are also easily preventable incidents here, mistakes are not exclusive to socialism because there's "no checks and balances", as seen with the Nestle anti-breast feeding campaign. "But they apologized and tried to fix it" so did China.

The millions who died "from socialism" are nothing compared to the casualties of capitalism. Of course there are casualties under socialism, it's the transitory mode of production between capitalism and communism. It still has to interact with the value-form because the revolution isn't global yet.

You will literally never hear an ancap/libertarian type even mention the 3rd world and you will never hear a liberal mention the third world outside of meaningless nothingburger moralism.

Just ask them “is China starving rn?”

capitalism caused the dust bowl

debunking doesn't work. it's about pushing something until it's accepted as fact.

>>2357166
The Irish potato famine is a clear example of the failures of pure capitalism

>>2357166
It's not an argument, you're wasting time with defamation. They know they're exaggerating, they have other motifs to use it as a smear to stigmatize socialism through this, just throwing it in.
You don't understand because you don't think like them on your position. It's part of the info war.

Not that were socialists but the famine is USSR was amplified by the half assed collectivization and the famine in china straight up happened because of organizational shortfalls of the CCP. Just to remind everyone it wasn't the weather.

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Like other anons pointed out itt, there is no argument. People don't push this narrative because they earnestly thought about it and that was their conclusion. They mindlessly regurgitate anti communist propaganda with the sole purpose of its delegitimization. Arguing with them about it and not just giving them a quippy retort is probably a waste of time

Socialism has never existed for it to cause famines

Simple

>>2357166
>The "famines" argument against socialism is ridiculous and can be debunked by thinking critically for a single minute.
yeah most of us figured that out years ago that capitalists just encircle, sanction, embargo, invade, coup, etc. and then victim blame

>>2357176
not exactly true. capitalists saturate all media with their lies and yet people still see through them. saturation and bruteforcing a narrative certainly helps, but it's not a panacea.


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