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Not reporting is bourgeois


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>>2423753
you are literally supporting a liberal theocracy over the workers movement, and that same liberal theocracy is not following its UN obligation to stop genocide, and then you say we're fucking complicit in genocide? fuck off

>>2423768
What worker's movement? You're speaking entirely in hypotheticals here. As things stand currently there is zero evidence that the collapse of the Islamic Republic would lead to a worker's state in Iran. There is no proletarian party with sufficient organization or influence to bring about such a change.

>>2423764
go back to reddit or /pol/ retard.

>>2423777
i'm sorry i offended you by telling you that i shouldn't have to do the work of a country with one of the largest armies on earth just because it hurts your feelings that i personally am not doing it

>>2423779
I am not offended by retarded people. I feel sorry for your mental disability.
D O Y U O N E E D T O G O T O D O P E E - P E E? N O D I F Y E S.

>>2423783
i have hardly seen people this mad over this fact, i think you need to lay down and relax

>>2423773
the workers' movement is small in iran due to the suppression of the theocracy, and i guarantee you if the islamic republic were to collapse it would probably strengthen

>>2423787
As I said, I am not mad, nor offended. literally, picrel.
I am actually, amused. yes. people like you are like clowns in a circus: will never get a revolution, but they come in, attack other countries for whatever ideological grievance, and lecture others on how to do a revolution.
the closest thing is amusement, clown.
keep amusing me, so I can clap at you, circus clown.

>>2423773
the exact same thing was said by these people in regards to libya, and syria.
no to gaddafi, no to assad, no to NATO.
what happened to all those workers' councils? delusional.

>>2423790
>and i guarantee you if the islamic republic were to collapse it would probably strengthen
The experience of other countries in the region points to precisely the opposite conclusion. Where are the worker's states in Libya and Syria now that Gaddafi and Assad are gone?

>>2423802
you are a circus clown defending an anti-communist theocracy FOR FREE who has not and has yet to stop the genocide, despite more than having the capability to do so, and now i am the clown for pointing out this fact? israel and the islamic republic have a symbiotic relationship, kill one and the other dies because there is nothing to justify its actions anymore, but i wish you well for when the islamic republic suddenly becomes a worker's state

Would any of my fellow Comrades like to critique my In Depth Dialectical Materialist effort post at >>2423400 articulating the importance of National Liberation in Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and my stance on the need for a Maoist PPW in Iran to overthrow the Controlled Oppostion Mossad Mullah Iranian Theocracy, 🤔?

>>2423815
the ottoman empire's collapse didn't produce a workers' state either, yet i'd say (with confidence) that it'd be reasonable to assert that the ottoman empire collapsing would still be a better condition for a worker's state to arise in than before that, there's other examples as well but you see the point

>>2423816
projecting, now, kid? *CLAP* *CLAP* at you.
if Iran fails,, you'll clap with the zionists, too, the same way I bet you did when Syria did.

>>2423821
Frankly I don't think the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire was progressive or reactionary, and actually it would have been better for it to remain united as a single state but undergo a bourgeois and then proletarian revolution. Likewise I don't see what benefit there is to the collapse of the Islamic Republic if it doesn't lead to a proletarian government in Iran, which at the current stage it most certainly won't. In fact I'd say it would make the situation of the global worker's movement worse if it leads to the imposition of a pro-imperialist government on Iran.

>>2423815
Baathist Iraq, Baathist Syria, and Qaddafi Libya, were all Progressive Left-wing Arab Nationalist governments that were originally backed by the USSR and Maoist China, and the opposition in Syria, Iraq, and Libya was almost exclusively Far-Right Sunni Islamist Theocrats, while Iran is a Far-Right Reactionary Shia Islamist Theocracy that was originally backed by the U$/Zionist State in the Iran-Iraq war against the USSR/China-backed Baathist Iraq, and while the Iranian opposition includes prominent Reactionary elements like the Monarchist retards led by the Shahs kid and the MEK cult, large sections of it are Leftist, including Maoists (the Communist Party of Iran (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist) which is attempting to start a Maoist PPW to overthrow the Iranian Theocracy), Kurdish ML groups like Komala and KDPI (both of these groups were originally backed by the USSR and Baathist Iraq) that are waging an insurgency to liberate Kurdistan, Baathist militants that are waging an insurgency to liberate Arabistan, etc. so your comparison is not very fair, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2423834
I forgot to add that the Pro-U$ opposition to Baathist Iraq was primarily Shia Islamist backed by the Mossad Mullah Iranian Theocracy, which clearly demonstrates how Shia Islamist Iran has collaborated to support U$/Zionist foreign policy, as the current Pro-Iranian Iraqi government was literally put in power by the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasion of Iraq in 2003, 😂🤣🤢🤮!

>>2423790
>probably
they why dont these workers movements do something about it? are they being stopped by online posts?

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>>2424027
>what's stopping them
lead, same thing stopping westoids.

>>2424027
>>2424132
the "workers movements" will amount to the same thing it amounted in Syria. I could find these same forum discussions still online in left-wings spaces on what would cause the fall of Assad.

damn with these psy-ops, pashinyan and aliyev selling the Zangezur Corridor giving control to murricans from the north to attack, do psyops, and the radlibs cretins are already daydreaming about "workers' revolutions".
fucking shit.

>>2423131
they also allied with the kmt, temporarily and as long as their goals were aligned, and later with the bourgeoisie more generally, temporarily and as long as their goals were aligned

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/self-det/ch04.htm

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/liu-shaoqi/1952/internationalism_nationalism/ch05.htm

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_17.htm

should also note that iranian workers movements are not calling for the immediate overthrow of the regime, and are against foreign intervention. they(correctly) recognize that they need further organization and that a disorganized insurrection would be defeated and increase repression. pls listen to iranian vioces

>>2424387
>>2425066
Their are many Left-wing Progressive forces ready to overthrow the Mossad Mullah Iranian Theocracy, including the Communist Party of Iran (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist) who are preparing to launch a Maoist PPW to create a Persian SSR (this will only include the ethnic
Persian majority regions of Iran, as they support the creation of separate Azeri, Kurdish, Arab, and Baloch SSRs in the Azeri, Kurdish, Arab, and Baloch majority regions, respectively, in accordance with the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSRs), the Kurdish Marxist-Leninist militant groups Komala and KDPI are currently waging an insurgency to achieve the National Liberation of Kurdistan in a Kurdish SSR, and the Arab Nationalist/Baathist militant groups ASMLA and NLMA are currently waging an insurgency to achieve the National Liberation of Arabistan, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2425104
> On the evening of June 22, Donald Trump—the fascist president of the United States—announced that U.S. bunker-buster aircraft had bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities in Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan. This criminal act was carried out in blatant violation of international law, which classifies attacks on nuclear facilities as crimes against humanity. The result: vast areas of Iran would face radioactive fallout, threatening millions of lives through a slow-motion massacre and long-term contamination that will haunt generations of Iranians to come.This nuclear crime has shattered yet another barrier, opening the door to even more catastrophic wars around the world. The U.S., which became the first imperialist power of the 20th century to use nuclear weapons—destroying the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki—is now, in the 21st century, the first to commit a nuclear crime by attacking nuclear sites.

>In the face of this atrocity, the people of the world must rise up and embrace the call from Bob Avakian as a guiding compass for conscious mass struggle: We, the people of the world, can no longer afford to allow these imperialists to continue to dominate the world and determine the destiny of humanity. They need to be overthrown as quickly as possible. And it is a scientific fact that we do not have to live this way.

https://cpimlm.org/1404/04/01/notousa/

hmm pretty based but are they really ready? how much support do they have?

>>2424286
What caused the fall of Bashart is his own liberalism just like what eill cause the fall of cucktollah

>>2424027
maybe the paramilitaries and vigilante gangs armed with guns? there are literal freikorps in iran preventing any communist organization through extreme and brutal force

>>2424286
>the "workers movements" will amount to the same thing it amounted in Syria.
Creating a socialist state? Damn, long live the workers movements!

>>2424027
Anytime they do something against the islamist retard cops, ziggers screech in pain.

>>2425180
Tenuous control of a fraction of a shattered country and existing under constant threat of annihilation by much more powerful neighbours is hardly an enviable position.

>>2425211
Like the Soviet Union in the 30s. Things ain't easy.

>>2425128
kys, retard.

>>2425328
except in the 30s there was multiple superpowers competing with hot wars, and trade wars at the time. there's no competition between multiple super powers and trade wars between them.

>>2425328
It would be more like if the Bolsheviks only managed to hold on to Ukraine while the rest of the Russian Empire Balkanized and the Germans were frothing at the mouth to crush them at any moment.

>>2425180
Assad's Syria was already socialist. Anti-Assadists were all jihadists and scumbag liberals.

>>2425459
Islamists comes in many forms. I agree that Assad was of the nationalist type, which compared to the caliphate retards it's better. But one leads to the other fast. Sad.

>>2425509
how was assad an islamist exactly?

SDF can probably take Damascus but it’ll probably take ten years
>>2425515
You could theoretically point to preference for Alawites and Shia in the officer corps but it’s a stretch

>>2425515
Letting Hezb rape randos is islamist coded

>>2425459
Assad was a neoliberal

>>2425350
>t. cuck to libslamist cucks (double cucked)

>>2425515
The shia vs sunni retardation. He wasn't a salafist tho.

>>2425576
The TRVKE that killed leftypol zizters

>>2425576
>>2425655
all the strategic companies were state-owned.

>>2425662
He was in the process of privatizing them when the war broke out.

>>2425666
name one.

So is it over?

>>2426424
Always has been.

It's gonna restart soon.
This is a war that was planned for decades. They're just rearming right now. US is trying to pause Ukraine to focus on Iran, to then go at China and then Russian again.
They'll nuke Iran if it comes to that. Anything to change the current government to an obedient puppet state like in Syria.

>>2426424
No. The Trump admin is ginning up Azerbaijan to try and start shit with Iran, possibly later this year. Their attempts at trying to end the Ukraine war are also imo moves to try and free up resources to protect Israel in a continuation of hostilities.


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