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i really want to understand how lenin, stalin, mao, kim, xi etc. managed to turn so many shitholes into nuclear superpowers

the 5 year plans always seems to follow the same pattern though

>nationalize an industry
>up production
>profit
>reinvest into industry
>expand into new industry
>repeat

increase production
increase trade

make a lot of money :))))

just print money bro

>>2362794
Capital accumulation. Did you ever read any Marxist text? In particular a nation that has full control of its resources.

>>2362794
follow the juche idea

1 step be high autism score
2 step be high trust society

That the rest follow naturally

>>2362874
>"Socialist" state
<Capital accumulation

and if you don't see the problem with this, it's over

let alone the fact that a state can and will never be socialist

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>>2362794
basically all developmental economies do this. Even the capitalist economies did this
park chung hee
chiang kai shek
lee kuan yew
ministry of international trade and industry japan

>>2362874
>>2362990
wrong. that is not capitalist accumulation. It is socialist accumulation.

>>2363024
hello based Park Chung Hee scihzo

keep the jews out

>>2362990
<an agrarian shithole didn't establish fvll commvnism in a generation it's so over for the real movement

>>2362794
The Stalinist policy used the terms of trade between agriculture and industry to use the agricultural surplus for investment in heavy industry. Then heavy industry is reinvested in heavy industry. Then you have mechanization of agriculture that allows millions of now-redunant peasants to move to the cities, which becomes the main base of support for your policies as Head Honcho and Supreme Generalissimo.

you might notice that china and the ussr had vast swathes of land lol

>kim
lol north korea is a shithole

>>2363035
then dont call it communism

>it's so over for the real movement
things no one said

>>2363048
why not? it was communism.

>>2362990
Think about it, if they manage to accumulate all the capital in the world and establish a monopoly they could get to central planning, socialization and the world revolution would be over.

>>2362858
what about juche

>>2362990
hello? idealist utopian slop department?

>>2363031
I mean, am I wrong? You can even point to mercantalist britian having this strategy

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>>2362990
Trvke

>>2363511
"trve communism" for them would be something like chaz but for the entirety of the world so to speak

>>2363520
When your source is instagram 🥀🥀

It helps to have colonies to exploit, hell you can send politically troublesome populations over to the colony to subdue the natives and get their aggression out so it doesn’t affect your ruling class

I think it's simple: capitalists claim it was capitalism, socialists claim it was socialism (or socialistic development, call it whatever you like, the name is not important, as long as we know what we are talking about).

I am not an economics expert but I think you can go far simply applying this "cui bono" correctly.

>>2362990
Anarchists being irrelevant illiterate retards, take #3493051830921509152
A tale as old as time itself.

>>2363520
>vulnerable and desperate
She was 17 and 11 months, you fuckin freak! You're going away for a long time. Reminds me of this discourse. African countries can't consent, they are ""vulnerable""
Better leave them in the loving hands of the IMF eh

>>2363024
>park chung hee

Didn't do it

>chiang kai shek

Nope

>lee kuan yew

Lolno

>ministry of international trade and industry japan

Didn't do it either

>>2362794
>>2363042

Gaynazi gets closest to the truth.

Agricultural exports (together with some lumber & petroleum) provided the foreign exchange earnings used to import foreign
tech.

The internal accumulation policy however was the feldman-mahalanobis model: That is the % of investment goods & services allocated to expanding investment goods & services industries themselves was increased relative to that of consumer goods & services producing industries.

In concrete terms this meant expansion of not only cenent, steel, machine parts, etc. but also increased education.

The enabling factor for this being the freeing up labour for this was collectivization & basic mechanization of agriculture, both of which combined radically increased labour productivity in agriculture (Though productivity per acre/hectare/km^2 grew very slowly in the pre-war by comparison).

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>>2363511
First time?
They are kinda like scientology, Cthulhu will deliver us at some indeterminate point in time.
Posadas, he might seem the silliest of them all, but he got it correct in that it's the logical endpoint of this ideology, such as it is.

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>>2362794
>nationalize an industry
>up production
>profit
>reinvest into industry
>expand into new industry
>repeat

yes

>>2362990
>capital = capitalism
Sub 90 autism score post

>>2362794
>
>>nationalize an industry
>>up production
>>profit
>>reinvest into industry
>>expand into new industry
>>repeat
This is what all capitalist powerhouses who tell third world to privatise everything did btw

>>2363716
except we are talking about capital accumulation, not capital itself

and the reproduction and accumulation of capital can only occur inside a bourgeouis system of production you nonce

>>2363710
True Marxism in practice

Nooo you can't accumulate
Only kill kill kill like the "Red" Khmer
Now that
is Real(tm) socilism
sub 80 eye queue

>>2363793

This is equivocation on the word 'capital'. It doesn't mean the same thing in neoclassical econ. as it does in marxist econ.

In neoclassical its basically a substitute for machinery, plants, etc. (ie. any tool that helps production that isn't labour or a natural resource).

>>2363669
>Dengoids using groomer arguments
Not a good look.

>>2363069
north korea survives from chinese welfare

Russia and China would have most likely become superpowers under nationalist management, it's not that hard when you have that much landmass and demographic power.

>>2364220
>calling everyone you disagree with a groomer
ngmi. go back

>>2364248
Not taking that advice from someone named glowing rapefiend

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>>2363812
Capital accumulation: 😡
Capital accumulation, China: 🤩

>>2364309
your so easy to make squirm

>>2364315
you're*

step 1: focus on home production of actual valuable goods funded by the state
step 2: wait for your enemies to die off because of corrupt incentives killing efficiency
step 3: ???
step 4: surplus!!


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