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>>2371550Nice.
Well anyways, yeah, the thing with Republicans taking this anti-interventionist tone that people talk about all the time, it can be the case in some dimensions, but the U.S. withdrawing from international organizations can also mean the U.S. acts less restrained in reality. Like, we don't want anybody else telling AMERICA what to do! (Not that NATO is much of a constraint on what the U.S. does anyways but I'm just saying.) George W. Bush actually campaigned as an anti-interventionist in 2000 and criticized Clinton's involvement in Bosnia.
>>2371577>Like whats it gonna do if its released and Trump is in them?we knew trump was in the black book 10 years ago. it's old news. declassifying what was already online and acting like it's new info is literally the "fake news" these people are always complaining about.
>But anyhow most men on earth would touch loli twat given the chance………………………..no…………………..
>I dont actually care about the Epstein files. I dont understand why people care about this so much.because it was a peak into what people intuitively knew to be true about rich people and the cover up was massive and obvious right down to the security cam "malfuctioning" and the guards "falling asleep" at the same time as epstein "killed himself"
>He's sending people to death camps and starting wars but were concerned about him fucking teenagers?you're the first person to bring it up ITT. it's actually relatively out of the news cycle lately. what made you bring it up even?
>>2371584>………………………..no…………………..Maybe I should have specified. Straight non-western men would.
>people intuitively knew to be true about rich peopleThis is the bullshit I hate and dont understand. The big unspoken secret of the rich to your average MF is they fuck lolis? Not that they're a parasitic class responsible for nearly all the death, destruction and despair in the world?
>actually relatively out of the news cycle lately. I felt like bringing it up. News cycle or not go to any content about Trump online and you will see a comment somewhere about "Release le Epstein files"
>>2371692>that fucking tard at the front [our] right with the no drugs shirtI only have one video saved and it's that one where they turn the wrong way.
PF training was a sad joke, and they were learning poor form, but at the end of the day you're absolutely right. They're not soldiers, but this alone shows
some coordination and discipline. I've been to community actions where I think if people had a bit of basic discipline or training, there would be fewer arrests. It's not an optics thing, it's also a material skill. Like, we're talking super simple stuff like link arms and retreat backwards in groups of 5 or 6. I didn't realize how gifted I am at sport/coordination until I saw how fucking poorly these people were doing at basic cooperation tasks.
>>2371661Don't worry, Bill Ackman says Elon Musk just "shoots from the hip," no need to be concerned! The real antisemites are the people opposing the genocide of the Palestinians!
>>2371664I can only assume the reason more people aren't catching onto the ADL's bullshit is because America's horrid education prevents them from recognizing the blatant Nazi dog-whistles on the right.
>>2371720It's pretty clear.
Is leftypol only populated by twitter leftist that respond "WHAT? HUH? BLUD NORMAL ONE DIDDYAHH?" to everything slightly out of their comfort zone now?
>>2371726>normal>rich…look I'm financially secure too but this isn't
normal. Might seem that way if you live in a well-off neighborhood but to be rich is abnormal, fortunate.
>>2371725Not everyone is aware of Iran's trans policy, and even that is a bit fuckin "uhhhhhhhhh". Could have just explained instead of making bizarre claims about a whole website because of one reply you didn't like.
>>2371769To be fair Mamdani's campaign was lauded as pretty effective propaganda against Gen z and a very large part of why he won.
>Inb4 succdemSure whatever but I think the point still stands, leftists are very much capable of doing good propaganda I think you're just looking in the wrong places.
>>2371793And his plan is very simple, even taking whatever away what his platform is.
>I want to be mayor.>I need you to come in and vote for me on one day and convince other people to vote for meNo matter what the platform is, it's absolutely concrete.
Whereas:
>Join our party>Where we will do ???Like what does joining your party do? What does convincing other people to join your party do. An election is very concrete and direct no matter what someone may or may not do after elected. What should people join your party for? What will your party concretely do besides seek more members?
>>2371784Fans, in the social media follower sense, are attached to a fragile persona identity, that is also framed narrowly in the online context and the medium and content contexts. "Fans" will readily do low volume, low effort volunteer stuff. But if you want a real workhorse of a fanbase, you need to cultivate a real parasocial cult, where a ladder of loyalty can form and encourage competition.
That is to say, to go anywhere with parasocial vampirism beyond profiting yourself, you need to get reeeeeeeeal pathological with your fanbase, which defeats the point. you can't build a political organization out of filtering the parasocially vulnerable, you are building a cult, whether you realize it or not.
It is easy to underestimate the allure of the grift, when a person finally realizes they could be free from wage slavery. Even if one does a minimum of parasocial video stuff, thing like breadtube or other forms of building a "re-watchable library" are essentially building up a "passive income". And unlike other more direct forms of parasocial vampirism, pretty much all you need to do is be present in social media, as yourself , like any poster would. Maybe making a Discord and interacting a bit.Things like that.
Because the parasocial thralldom is established by a principle nearly as powerful as sex, political awakenings. Which in turn, means that in order to be "successful" as a content creator of this sort, you need to make the content that caters to the sort of people that would otherwise be throwing that attention to some e-whore. And with no progression to it.
You become the Onlyfans of politics. And just like those sorts of whore does, it's easy to convince yourself you are "making a difference" when your livelihood depends on believing it.
>>2371778It's been tried. Look at how PF and NSN turned out - the majority of their members are autistic cowards who consistently get chased away by antifas to the point where both groups do their stunts at 6 in the morning now.
I am not exaggerating or using the term autistic loosely. I mean diagnosed ASD. NSN even tried to groom alienated young men through the government disability support services. They're not finding the best.
>>2371847>Join their local union, radicalize those within, recruit,So it seems that it would me much more effective to focus then on recruiting on a person to person level. That should probably be developed down to a training program. You should probably also try and incentivize/encourage bringing in more people as much as possible. If you're not doggedly on it, you'll get nowhere.
>Form paramilitary organizations I think it's stupid and a waste of time. I think it would be frankly more of a turnoff to most people.
> use them to project power and influence through direct action and cautious potd.You say you want them to power project but what does this achieve?
>>2371853And to add, what are you doing with the unions, why do you want more union members?
>So we can win Union elections!It's just "electoralism" as you all erroneously call it on here on a smaller scale. "Democracy in the work place." And that's great too, but why not also not public office as well?
>>2371853>I think it would be frankly more of a turnoff to most people.These are my sworn by blood and thoroughly ass fucked devotees, if they don't form the paramilitaries who will?
>>2371855>And to add, what are you doing with the unions, why do you want more union members?The purpose of autonomous workers power, unions, is to enact, command and direct the revolution and act as the new form of social organization that will replace the existing government.
>So we can win Union elections!And also the building up of already revolutionary unions like the IWW
>why not also not public office as well?Electoralism always leads to social democracy, degrading the revolutionary energy of all involved until they are nothing but agents of the bourgeoisie dressed in red.
>>2371866>These are my sworn by blood and thoroughly ass fucked devotees, if they don't form the paramilitaries who will?True, but is it not better to have more people at who are willing to be in, but not on the blood sworn level perhaps?
>>2371853<You say you want them to power project but what does this achieve?
>The purpose of autonomous workers power, unions, is to enact, command and direct the revolution and act as the new form of social organization that will replace the existing government.The plan seems very loose here. Also you completely dodged the point about unions. What does the union do?
> is to enact, command and direct the revolution and act as the new form of social organization that will replace the existing government.Super loose. That's not even close to a plan. How do you replace the government?
>>2371871>True, but is it not better to have more people at who are willing to be in, but not on the blood sworn level perhaps?There'll be different levels going on simultaneously, not everyone will be required to join the paramilitary.
>What does the union do?Enacts, commands, and directs the revolution, like I said, as well as forming the basis of the organization of the new society.
>Super loose. That's not even close to a plan. How do you replace the government?Its just the general outline, its handled more in depth in works like Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolf Rocker, but generally its just for the unions to take over the functions of government as well as management of industrial production.
>>2371877>Enacts, commands, and directs the revolution, like I said, as well as forming the basis of the organization of the new society.What is the revolution? I'm saying what is the plan and you're circling back to:
>We will come up with the plan once I have enough people following meWhich is counter to this whole thought experiment.
>Its just the general outline, its handled more in depth in works like Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolf Rocker, but generally its just for the unions to take over the functions of government as well as management of industrial production.How do they do that?
>>2371892>>2371893Also they were only successful with the first part because the government let them. Compare to Trump's response to the BLM protests in DC.
>>2371896>they were closest in ameriKKKan history to lynching congress but they had no popular support or armsThen they would just be killed by the Secret Service and SWAT and whoever they managed to kill would just be replaced by an appointee of their state's governor.
>>2371958The Chinese century is here!
Tiānshàng tàiyang hóng ya hóngtōngtōng ēi
Xīnzhōng de tàiyang shì máozédōng ēi
Tā lǐngdǎo wǒmen dé jiěfàng ēi
Rénmín fānshēn dāngjiāzuòzhǔ rén
Yīya yī zhī yōu wèi
Ya ér ya zhī yōu ā
Rénmín fānshēn dāngjiāzuòzhǔ rén
>>2371971>punk assed bitcheslmao americans are so unthreatening i cannot take them seriously.
This is how they keep winning, i guess.
>>2371783Anyone can homebrew hormones, it's easy as fuck. It's not like stopping meth production, it's like trying to stop people from brewing moonshine. It's infeasible.
But the reason why the right wing has been able to use trans people as a scapegoat is because they're an extreme minority you can't disappear but can fabricate infinite propaganda against. And westerners are psychotic enough to fall for it because they're incredibly retarded and reactionary. You can always accuse someone of being a secret transhumanist or hire a patsy to pretend to be trans to create free propaganda against them. It's a minority you never truly see but can fear like you fear like a monster under your bed. Anyone can end up trans, so Rowling cultists think about them 24/7, they fear their friends and family becoming "trans" and constantly police and criticize them. This is why you will see them post about this 24/7 even in the light of far more pressing material issues. Fearing the transhumanist under your bed is central to transphobia.
It's more like a modern day witch hunt or anti-religion than anti-semitism or racism. I see it the anti-trans movement failing just like anti-religious movements have (that weren't inherently entangled with race or culture), even ignoring how technology will only blur the lines between sexes, races, and even species as it continues to advance. (consider how AI can change your voice and even racial appearance on the fly now, and even then what we have is incredibly rudimentary. You never truly know who you're talking to online!).
The only way they could really 'win' is by enslaving humanity in a hellish Palantir-scape where every single breath you take is observed and recorded to algorithms that determine when to send cops to your pod to murder you once you step out of line, and that is inherently an expensive and unstable system which will collapse inwards on itself. Considering how many people consider being trans "western degeneracy", it is ironic that trans hate is conceivably one of the most western ideals you can have. It's pure idpol in itself. It's why most eastern societies (china, thailand, africa, south america) don't really have the psychotic trans-hate you see in the west. The ones that do (japan, south korea) are incredibly westernized.
I do think it ends in the west in concentration camps because there's no deradicalizing the chuds, but the west also has no future. They're going to kill everyone here and die in a wasteland of their own making while China carries on the torch of civilization.
>>2371793For sure. Maybe his campaign would kick these orgs into gear to actually make engaging shit. The issue is they only talk about it in terms of campaigning. So they again seperate themselves, when it’s all propaganda and you should follow his lead somewhat. Though they do have a bit of a point, only so much you can take
>>2371795To be fair, with local places like DSA NYC, you can say join us to help Mamdani. That they will be a force behind his back. You never get that sense. And to be fair, the DSA elected don’t give that sense, tending to kinda distance themselves once in power. But at at least municipalities wise, having a machine to help is very important
>>2371990>Anyone can end up transThat includes themselves. They fear that they themselves will become trans somehow. If they can't handle internal conflict or ambiguity the insecure end up attacking outwards more viciously
>>2371993Years of civil war, hundreds of thousands of deaths, and the active genocide their own countrymen in exchange for World Bank loans and a Noble Peace Prize winning dictator. Imperialism has given them a great deal.
>>2372024I'm sure Brazil has normalized trade relations with Israel like literally everyone else on the planet, but it seems to be very negligible amounts because they're barely visible on this exports destination graph.
When the US and India are both selling Israel hundreds of millions of dollars in weapons and every other country pales in comparison to those two, I don't really see how much impact the demand that Brazil stop trading with Israel would have on Israel's ability to commit genocide.
>>2372034If it's so unimportant why demand of it of them and make your support of them conditional upon it? At least the demand that China stop trading with Israel makes sense in terms of the sheer volume (even though they also don't sell much for weapons) … but
Brazil?
Remember. It's the US and India giving Israel all the weapons. If you're going to go around making a demand that should be the demand: STOP SELLING WEAPONS TO ISRAEL. It is the simplest and most realistic demand because it's not a perishable market like food exports.
>>2372052It's great, I see more quality communist content over there than on imageboards. Its not anything like reddit or youtube. Youtube shorts are a total distaste
>>2372056Tiktok is overall a good platform for leftists but it has some pretty strict moderation that makes it a challenge sometimes. Instagram on the other hand is like the wild wild west, they don't give a fuck. you can find literally anything over there, from gore and car crash vids to 1488hitlerlover meme pages, but at the same time leftist content can be a lot more free in its content, so its a tradeoff really. With that being said the most important factor when choosing a platform to spread leftist propaganda is the Algorithm. Playing the algorithm seems like the ultimate radicalizing tool for getting eyes on propaganda if you can figure it out
>>2372031The main thing bad about Spanish is the random gender rules it shares with other romance languages. Also the rolling r is not easy for people who didn't learn as children.
>>2372056Twitter was lib before Elon though. Twitch and youtube are very right wing so it seems as if longer content leans towards right wingers for some reason.
>>2372063Thoughts and prayers, Texas!
>>2372056Younger base which is the base of the left. Also helps that TikTok forces you to make shorter videos so you can’t ramble on. As for YouTube and Twitter, Twitter used to be normal but Elon bought it and promoted Nazis and just engagement farms and also the lib exodus. YouTube I think there is prime real estate
>>2372068Shorts are just reuploaded TikToks so eh. Though the amount of AI voice shit is crazy.
>>2372080Do they ever wonder if maybe God wants people to help others when environmental disasters happen.
If God did all the help for us his creation would be pretty boring and annoying to manage.
>>2372086yeah but then god realises he fucked up and promises not to do it again
gods just a funny guy
>>2372089sometimes he makes humans talk gibberish and donkeys talk human
hes so random penguin spork
>>2372084NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LET
ME
OUT
>>2372098The thing is, Thiel is more Crassus. George Soros. The funder of ideology. But he to my knowledge doesn’t write crap
>>2372101I know but it’s a fun mind game to try and rationalize them to have a secret vizier/state ideology. I feel like Obama definitely has one. Can’t recall who
>>2372102In 2023 the United States had 2,325 heat deaths
In 2023 Europe had 47,700 heat deaths
At least this country likes air conditioning
>>2372109I don't know I should probably read up on her beliefs.
Since Boric was a watery failure and very few like him at all, which made me think the left was going to die in Chile, she must be radical enough if people think she's a better alternative.
>>2372111Checking the trips
Yeah I’m surprised any left winger is winning, so my guess is the right is just shitting the bed
Why can't USA learn from China and do nothing to win?
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/07/this-time-its-true-mexico-is-going-to-the-brics-summit.htmlOver the past week, Washington has declared Mexico a foreign “adversary” together with the likes of Iran, Russia and China. It has also imposed potentially ruinous sanctions against two Mexican banks and a brokerage house for allegedly laundering money for drug cartels without presenting any clear evidence. As is becoming increasingly clear, the move was essentially a shakedown by the Trump admin aimed at getting greater control over Mexico’s banking system as well as its relationship with China.
Lo and behold, one week later President Sheinbaum just announced that her government will be participating as an observer in the 17th annual meeting of the BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro on July 6-7. Sheinbaum herself will not be part of the delegation since her government, she says, has enough on its plate at home. Instead, Mexico will be represented by its Foreign Minister Ramon de la Fuente.
>>2372300I get the impression that Netanyahu wouldn't agree to any interview unless he's certain that it'd be 99% softball questions and 1% "There's been a lot of criticism over Israel's conduct of the war, what would you say to your critics?"
>>2372294Unironically I'd love to watch that.
>>2372306Of course it can't. It is essentially Japan in 1941, worse even. America could theoretically sink an entire Chinese naval task force and China would just rebuild them in a matter of years with war mobilisation.
The US Naval fleet is old, antiquated and slow to modernisation.
>Americans are all treatlers, our quality of life is only so high because of imperialism!
<ok, but 9% of americans don't have running water
>no you don't get it, we need our treats or the hogs will get mad
<ok, but 25% of americans are effectively unemployed and living in poverty
<no you don't get it, the only way things could be this good is because of imperialism
>ok, but 10% of americans do 50% of the spending and the bottom 50% does effectively none
<no, you don't get it, look check out my patreon exclusive podcast, that explains everything
>ok, but you're making 270,000 a year via patreon, so maybe that's why you shill for imperialism with this treatler shit
>>2372287The Ukrainization of Mexico?
The renowned Mexican-Lebanese geopolitical analyst Alfredo Jalife says that membership of BRICS would clearly be beneficial for Mexico, though its economy and development are currently chained to the US. He pointed out that there are more than 30 countries, some of them from Latin America, seeking to join the club, and that Mexico would almost certainly be granted membership, given its economic and geopolitical importance.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Russia’s ambassador to Mexico, Nikolay Sofinskiy, has already stated that Russia would welcome Mexico into the fold. But there’s one problem, says Jalife — the West, in particular the US, “won’t allow it”:
“It is optimal for Mexico to join the BRICS, but they are not going to let it happen. I am being realistic here; on paper I think it would be great.”
The USMCA deal includes an article, 32.10, that lays out the potential consequences of negotiating an FTA with “nonmarket economies” – which is basically a code word for China. Put simply, if either Canada or Mexico were to negotiate a trade agreement with China, they would have to inform the US three months prior. If a bilateral FTA gets signed with China, any of the three trade partners could walk away from the USMCA with just six months’ notice.
An even greater risk highlighted by Jalife is what he calls the “Ukrainization of Mexico”. In short, Mexico is as strategically valuable to the US as Ukraine is to Russia. And just like Russia will never let Ukraine join NATO, a military alliance, the US will never let Mexico join BRICS, which obviously is not a military alliance (h/t jobs).
>>2372340>but dont cause you have to spend all your money on rentDo you honestly believe this. I guess credit card debt is not a thing in your mind.
>you have to guzzle it because there's no public transport and small cars are tarriffedsorry the leadership of the empire is retarded
>>2372333They should stop. Also you talk as if in Thailand, families don't hire maids to do all their house chores. Even in the 3rd world, the treats flow
>Charlie Kirk urges GOP hopeful Curtis Sliwa to drop out of NYC mayoral race to stop Mamdani. Kirk says the democratic socialist candidate is 'stoppable' but opposition must coalesce a winnable rival"He's a little bit of a novelty candidate. I like him. He is a good guy. But you cannot have a competition on the Republican side. So, I think he should drop out," Kirk said. "Whoever ends up running against [Mamdani], if it's Eric Adams, who is not exactly well liked in New York right now, you have to run on crime, quality of life and an anti-radical agenda. Just common sense, unifying the city. We do not want these radical, third-world elements introduced into America's largest city and once-greatest city.
"Eric Adams paved the way for Zohran Mamdani by failing spectacularly over the last 3.5 years. With Adams polling dead last and holding the worst favorability rating on record at 68% unfavorable, it’s clear I’m the only candidate with a real path to victory, and I’ll prove that on November 4th. Why would any candidate drop out when Eric Adams has no path to victory?" Sliwa said in a statement.
Kirk says that Mamdani's biggest vulnerability is "how radical he is" and while he conceded Mamdani's proposal to freeze rent may appeal to some New Yorkers, he's "so bad on crime," which is the issue he thinks Mamdani's opponents should focus on. (Mamdani has previously promoted the "defund the police" movement and has been campaigning on creating the Department of Community Safety.)
"Crime is an issue that affects all New Yorkers," Kirk told Fox News Digital "Where, like, rent stabilization actually, he might get votes for that … he is so bad on crime. He's unspeakably bad on the police." What Mamdani has working in his favor, according to Kirk, is that he is "very social media savvy," something Mamdani showcased during his primary run. He also pointed to the "hundreds of thousands of college students" who are motivated to rally behind the man he calls the "encampment candidate."
"He also is the Democrat nominee, and a lot of people would just blindly vote for Democrats in New York, and so he has that advantage," Kirk said. The prominent conservative dismissed those on the right who suggested liberal New York City is beyond saving, stressing the mayoral race has "existential importance" and that voters must come together to stop Mamdani.
"Some people say, 'Oh, I don't care about New York City.' That is a bunch of nonsense and that's a bunch of rubbish," Kirk said. "We will not surrender America's largest city to a communist. We are not going to let that happen. And so I encourage everyone to get involved whatever degree you can. The future of western civilization will run through its cities. And right now, the battlefield is all eyes on New York."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/charlie-kirk-urges-gop-hopeful-curtis-sliwa-drop-out-nyc-mayoral-race-stop-mamdani >>2372325Zionists pretending to care about Iranians is so disgusting.
They would level the entire country if given the opportunity.
>>2372364Are you actually retarded
>have credit card>use credit card to buy crap>oh shit I have debt>scrape to pay it off>glad that’s over>use credit card to buy crap>cycle repeatsPeople who don’t have money are sometimes the most notorious for buying shit they don’t really have a use for. Worst for those who barely doing good so they begin to buy outside their means and some shit happens and boom broke.
>>2372542The pigs got really mad when someone threw fireworks at their building and declared a riot. Unfortunately for them their riot control agents don't work on anyone who is smart enough to equip themselves properly and so they had to back off after they shut down a street for a while.
They have cranked the regulators on their paintball guns enough to make their pepper balls really hurt, but a little armor will fix that problem.
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