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>>2373294 >Andrew Anglin: Black Sites like "Alligator Alcatraz" are intended for Americans, eventuallyPlease note that the Trump administration is also sending immigrants to Gitmo, the infamous black site in Cuba where the US spent decades torturing people it had kidnapped from various countries. Trump says he wants to hold 30,000 people there. Again, no one is explaining why they are not just sent back to their home countries. The US has an absolute ability to exert pressure on countries to accept the return of their people.
What exactly is even the purpose? We have jails. We have all of the leverage to deport people. We can make some concentration camp type holding facilities, just with modular homes and fences, and put them near the border. Wouldnât that make more sense?
Iâm not against putting immigrants in camps or cages or whatever. But another issue with this is that it only holds 5,000 people, which isnât really a very relevant number when we are talking about at least 50 million people who are eligible for deportation.
Further, the costs of flying people to this remote location, and holding them there â that doesnât make any sense at all to me. Again, you can quickly construct concentration camps in areas where immigrants can just be bussed in and processed. We can figure out where theyâre going and send them there.
I donât want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but what this looks like to me is that we are normalizing the idea of black sites in America. Because this place, this Alligator Alcatraz, would make a lot more sense as a secret prison for Americans than as an immigrant detention facility. As an immigrant detention facility, it is incredibly expensive, elaborate, inefficient, and generally confusing.
Iâve written some about the Trump administrationâs relationship with Palantir. Thankfully, others are writing and podcasting about this issue as well. Basically, the administration is contracting this intelligence and military tech company to design a control grid in America, and when asked about it, the Trump people just claim it is for immigrants. But no one is even claiming that only immigrants will be included in these AI databases that are going to monitor everyone. Palantir is building and has basically already built and is now just implementing a surveillance grid run by AI that compiles all information on you, both from the government and from private companies (i.e., Google and Facebook, and the banks), which is set up to build a profile on you that knows everything about you. Itâs a total science fiction dystopian nightmare plan that few people are even bothering to talk about.
Palantir is a totally Jewish company which is involved heavily in the genocide in Gaza. The companyâs Jewish CEO, Alex Karp, makes very edgy jokes about how he wants to kill the families of antisemites.
I donât personally have very much faith in any speech guarantees provided by the US government. The Biden administration violated the First Amendment by ordering âprivateâ tech companies to censor speech, and the Trump administration has done things much more illegal than that, passing all of these laws against âantisemitism.â Trump arrested and attempted to deport a green card holder for not supporting Israel. He says heâs going to deport anyone who doesnât support Israel, regardless if they have a green card or not. Thus far, no one has been able to explain to me how a green card holderâs constitutional rights vary from those of a US citizen.
There is a lot of legal precedent for this you can look up. The Supreme Court ruled previously that an Australian communist with a green card couldnât be deported for being a communist because a green card holder is protected by the Bill of Rights.
Listen, Iâm the most anti-immigration person of all. If Trump said âweâre stripping all green card holders of their green cards and deporting them all tomorrow,â I would support that completely. But when you start claiming that you are taking specific rights from people who have rights under the US Constitution, youâre creating a very confusing legal situation.
He has also effectively seized federal control of universities in order to prevent students or faculty from criticizing Jews. Heâs attempting to equate protesting against Israel with âmaterial support for terrorism.â Itâs all the exact same âsafe spacesâ and âspeech is violenceâ language that was used by the Democrats in support of BLM and transhumanists, but Trump is taking it much further than Democrats ever did.
Further, the Biden administration was mocked relentlessly for their âDisinformation Governance Board,â a government board designed to monitor supposed âdisinformationâ on the internet, run by Nina Jankowicz. They ended up abolishing the organization after a couple months. Yet âmonitoring disinformation onlineâ is six million times less scary than âmonitoring literally everything you do or say all the time for your entire life,â which is what Trump has contracted Palantir to do.
If you ask any questions about any of this, youâre either called an antisemite, a far-left open borders supporter, or both.
We should be deporting immigrants, but we should be doing so without threatening the freedom of speech or creating AI police state control grids. We should also do so, I think, without creating remote black sites, which really adds a whole other layer to this which I hadnât really thought much about until the announcement of this âAlligator Alcatraz.â
I suppose it is obvious that if youâre going to create a total control grid and monitor everyoneâs speech and behavior, and use AI to modify behavior on a society-wide scale, the social engineering wonât work on everyone so some people are going to have to disappear. And immigrants are so unpopular that the government has a chance to normalize â and get people to celebrate â this idea of people just disappearing and being hauled off to some secret prison. Doing a big fun publicity push with alligators is exactly what I would do if I wanted to normalize the idea of American black sites.
Itâs all looking kinda dark, frankly.
The most frustrating part is just how well the social engineering campaigns already work. Granted, they are running into some issues getting people to go along with the whole antisemitism thing. Even a lot of right-wingers are very uncomfortable with the Trump administrationâs push for these âhate speechâ laws. But with Palantir AI surveillance grids or remote prisons with no due process, if you start asking really any right-winger about it, theyâre going to call you an immigrant lover and start telling you that they donât care if alligators eat the immigrants. If you follow-up with âokay, but canât we just deport them instead of spending hundreds of millions of dollars to try to feed them to alligators?â, they will just get confused.
The answer as to âwhy not just deport them immediately?â is some garbled gibberish about courts. But with the way the Trump administration is steamrolling the complaints of judges about the way immigrants are being handled, the idea that they are really concerned about âasylum claimsâ and an infinite appeals process is not really believable. âWe will feed them to alligators but if they survive they can live in this cage for decades and keep filing asylum appeals.â Further, all of those laws about asylum could just be changed. Trump is ramming the most expensive and unpopular bill in history through Congress, so the idea he canât get rid of these idiotic asylum laws is dumb.
For the record, though I did not read the whole âBig Beautiful Bill,â my AI did, and the only change to asylum law the current version makes is that you have to pay $100 to apply for asylum. The fee, of course, can be waived if a judge says so. It appears very much like the goal here is to create a gigantic federal standing army in the form of ICE, that is able to round up immigrants and keep some fraction of a percentage of them in various cages rather than actually deport anyone back to their home country.
This is at the same time we are normalizing deploying the military onto the streets of American cities. Iâm not pro-riot, and Iâm not against sending the National Guard to deal with riots, but sending in the Marines? Does that really seem like something we want to be normalizing?
Sadly, like with everything else in a democracy, there isnât anything you can do to change anything. But you should be aware that we are really not that far away from Palantir AI identifying you as an antisemite, and a private paramilitary group with no insignias on their gear throwing you in a van and flying you off to some secret prison. The Palantir control grid is really already here, they are in the process of combining all of these databases on you and using the AI to build profiles. So itâs just a matter of when they decide to start using it and for what purposes.
The way the deportation thing is currently being handled, which is by grabbing random people and doing so in a kind of public way (while also not doing any kind of relevant numbers, just to be clear), very much looks to me like it is designed to normalize scenes of people being randomly grabbed off the streets. If/when they start doing it to white Americans, âhey wait, isnât that a white guy?â might go through someoneâs head, but it isnât going to matter. And most people wonât register that it is no longer just brown people who are getting picked up, after theyâve witnessed enough of these scenes.
You donât have to be particularly creative to imagine a situation where ICE becomes Palantirâs NKVD.
I know this might sound a bit far-fetched. But all Iâm doing is the only thing I ever do: Iâm looking at the data, and doing my best to draw conclusions about what it means.
Itâs also probably worth reminding people that if you simply made it a serious felony to hire or rent homes to illegal immigrants, and started putting the people who do that in prison (just normal prison, no need for alligators or any Looney Tunes shit), virtually all of the illegal immigrants would just leave.
It might also be worth reminding people that âillegalâ immigrants have never caused even a fraction of the social, economic, and cultural damage that âlegalâ immigrants cause, and Trump is currently supporting moves to allow basically infinite numbers of âlegalâ immigrants.
It is very reasonable to suspect that maybe things are not exactly as they appear, and that maybe the government and media are not being perfectly frank with us about where all of this is headed.
https://dailystormer.in/are-we-sure-we-want-black-sites-in-america-alongside-the-palantir-ai-police-state-control-grid/ >>2374587>By framing the problem as one of âextremistâ settlers victimizing the Palestinians, the solution seems self-evident: Remove the settlers to make room for a Palestinian state.????????
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>>2374623None of you have the courage to say it, no, because all fascists are cowards.
But it's what your politics would lead to and you know it.Anything good for America is bad for the world, and vice versa.
Major DeSantis contributor was awarded Alligator Alcatraz contract
A report from the Florida Trident found that a brand-new contracting company known as IRG Global Emergency Management was awarded a $1.1m contract to provide âoperational support services in support of migration effortsâ by the state in late July. Citing environmental activists watching the site, the publication reported that the companyâs trucks have been spotted outside of âAlligator Alcatraz.â
Formed in February of 2025, the Trident reports that IRG Global Emergency Management is actually an offshoot of Access Restoration Services US, Inc. (ARS). ARS recently opened its pockets to DeSantisâs political sphere, dropping donations totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars to Florida Republican causes over the past 3 years. Those included donations to DeSantisâs own PAC as well as the state GOP
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-alligator-alcatraz-donor-contracts-b2783565.htmlWith One War Over, Netanyahu Heads to Washington Amid Calls to End Another
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel is set to meet with President Trump on Monday as attention has turned from Iran to a cease-fire for Gaza.
As an added benefit, the trip allows Mr. Netanyahu to postpone his cross-examination in his corruption trial, which Mr. Trump has blatantly called to be canceled. Israeli courts go on summer recess from July 21 until early September.
In remarks before boarding his plane to Washington on Sunday, Mr. Netanyahu said he would be meeting all the senior members of the administration and members of Congress from both sides of the aisle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/world/middleeast/netanyahu-trump-israel-war-gaza.htmlInside Trump's supercharged version of Bush's "War on Terror"
Mass surveillance. Pre-emptive military strikes in the Middle East. Shipping people to domestic and foreign prisons. Citing national security to hide information from the courts. Labeling people as "terrorists" as a political and legal strategy.
Why it matters: Donald Trump became president in part by running against the legacy of George W. Bush, the last Republican in the White House before him. But now Trump is supercharging many of the post-9/11 legal, tactical and political strategies Bush used.
Driving the news: Trump's push to deport "millions" of unauthorized immigrants and his strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities in particular have many parallels to Bush's "War on Terror."
Trump's sending unauthorized immigrants to high-security prisons in the U.S. and abroad â sometimes denying them due process.
Bush sent alleged terrorists â including undocumented people in the U.S. â to prisons around the world and the U.S. military facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The Trump administration is now using "Gitmo" for detainees it says have criminal histories.
Trump preemptively, and unilaterally, attacked Iran with 14 bunker-buster bombs and launched missiles at an Iranian-backed proxy group in Yemen, killing dozens.
He said he ordered the first attack out of concern Iran was close to gaining a nuclear weapon. Bush used a similar rationale for invading Iraq, though unlike Trump he got Congress' approval beforehand.
The similarities don't stop there:
Surveillance: Trump has enlisted tech company and defense contractor Palantir to help surveil and track unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. Bush enlisted telecom companies such as AT&T and Sprint for most of his domestic surveillance in the name of stopping terrorists. Trump's "One Big Beautiful Bill" provides billions to expand such programs. (Palantir told Axios that its software doesn't proactively collect data, and said its work is in accordance with the law.)
Executive orders: Trump's administration has invoked some of Bush's executive orders made after 9/11 to justify his immigration actions, as Semafor pointed out.
Rhetoric: Trump has labeled alleged members of Latin American gangs as "terrorists" and "alien enemies" to justify expedited deportations. He has said his administration is focused mostly on "the worst of the worst" â the same phrase Bush's administration used in its anti-terror campaign.
Courts: Trump and Bush's administrations both concealed information from judges and court hearings using the "state secrets privilege," claiming there would be a national security risk for transparency.
Habeas corpus: Trump has floated suspending habeas corpus â suspects' right to use the courts to fight unlawful detentions. Bush tried to do that in 2006 before it was overturned by the Supreme Court.
Reality check: There are exceptions to the Trump-Bush parallels.
Trump's immigration effort is far broader than Bush's, which focused largely on men suspected of having ties to terror groups. Trump's deportation efforts are targeted at millions more noncitizens in communities nationwide.
Bush was also responding to the trauma of the 9/11 attacks and fearful of another mass attack.
So far, Trump's attacks against Iran have been far more limited than the government-toppling invasions Bush embarked on.
What they're saying: A spokesperson for Bush declined to comment.
"President Trump swore an oath to protect and defend the homeland and promised the American people he would end generational wars, and that's exactly what he's doing," Trump spokesperson Harrison Fields said. "No president has secured our nation and the world more successfully than President Trump, and the American people are safer today because of his leadership than ever before."
"Trump is saying out loud what the Bush administration did behind closed doors," said Vince Warren, executive director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, the first organization to represent detainees sent to Guantanamo Bay after 9/11.
Between the lines: Most Republicans have cheered Trump's aggressive immigration moves, while Democrats have been mostly muted in pushing back, recognizing that Joe Biden's handling of the border cost them politically.
Some Trump supporters such as Tucker Carlson have criticized the president's military entanglements in the Middle East, given that Trump ran on a promise to avoid getting involved in wars such as those in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Vice President Vance has said he understands such concerns and told NBC's "Meet the Press" last month that "the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America's national security objectives. So this is not going to be some long, drawn-out thing."
Flashback: The Bush administration made mistakes in who it detained and accused of links to terrorism in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
The Bush administration preemptively detained hundreds of Arab and Muslim immigrants in the U.S., and some men were sent to foreign prisons.
An inspector general report in 2003 said: "Even in the hectic aftermath of the September 11 attacks, we believe the FBI should have taken more care to distinguish between aliens who it actually suspected of having a connection to terrorism," and those "who, while possibly guilty of violating federal immigration law, had no connection to terrorism
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/06/trump-bush-war-on-terror-immigration>>2374598Literally me
(reading the next two tomes of the collected works of Gramsci and Hoxha will truly unleash the world revolution)
>>2374552>What exactly is even the purpose? We have jails. We have all of the leverage to deport people. Trump can't send them to their home countries because that would require some amount of processing time, which would make the goal of deporting millions of people impossible.
The "alligator alcatraz" thing seems to be pure propaganda though.
>China has been accused of doing many nefarious things in the United States, but deliberately spreading antisemitism? Thatâs the claim made by Democrat Congressman Jared Moskowitz in an official hearing.âThis is not going well for Jews right now, and it isnât getting better. We have not yet peaked,â Moskowitz said.
âWe are losing the youth of this country. We are losing them on TikTok, which is owned by a foreign country that the president has now extended beyond what the law has allowed.â
Moskowitz continues: âI donât want TikTok to go away but I want it to get out of the hands of the Chinese. They are doing the Nazi playbook. They are dividing us. They are funding. They donât need to do it with B2 bombers.
âThatâs not what the Chinese plan is. The Chinese plan is to get us fighting among ourselves. The Chinese plan is to get us angry and divisive. And the Chinese plan is to start with the easiest plan possible, and that is us. Until we stop this âwho did what to whoâ stuff, we are not going to solve this.
âJews are losing their usual allies. Those allies that weâve had for decades and decades, groups that Jews have stood up for, we are losing them by the moment, especially among young people.
âThis [congressional] hearing ainât gonna fix s***. This is a virus that is spreading; until we are serious about whatâs going on online and the brainwashing of our kids, this is going to get worse and more people are going to die in this country.â
https://www.scmp.com/opinion/article/3317146/us-politician-claims-china-spreading-antisemitism-really >>2374732I have seen Katlyn, Kaitlyn, Katelyn, Catelyn, Caitlin, Caytlin, Kathlyn, Caitleen, Cathleen, but never
KAITLAN You americans really love the name Caitlin dont ya?
>>2374746>>2374739>>2374735>>2374732whatever happened to true trump tweets like
his disgusting nipples were protruding smh
>>2374732Bro just confirmed that NASA is currently just a front for Elon's SpaceX đ
Total Chinese Space Domination confirmed.
>>2374753The ISS is being retired in just 5 years time, meaning the only space station in space will be Chinese.
Presumably by 2030 there will be Chinese astronauts on the dark side of the moon also.
>>2374732The greatest romance of this generation is coming to an abrupt end.
Two rightoids, desperate for relevance,
Clinging to platforms and validation.
One tweets from his golden toilet, the other from Mars fantasies,
Both convinced they're saving civilization
While hoarding wealth like dragons on piles of gold.
Their romance was built on mutual grift
Old money seeking new money's cool factor,
New money seeking old money's political clout.
But partnerships between narcissists always implode,
And now they're back to what they do best
Playing victim while the world burns around them.
In this America, where dignity goes to die,
From billionaire grudge breaks fresh stupidity,
Where dirty money makes clean hands bloody
A pair of star-crossed oligarchs destroy each other.
>>2374760I miss the old Donald, straight from the 'Go Donald
Chop up the soul Donald, set on his goals Donald
I hate the new Donald, the bad mood Donald
The always rude Donald, spaz in the news Donald
I miss the sweet Donald, chop up the beats Donald
I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Donald
See I invented Donald, it wasn't any Donalds
And now I look and look around and there's so many Donalds
I used to love Donald, I used to love Donald
I even had the pink polo, I thought I was Donald
What if Kanye made a song about Donald
Called "I Miss The Old Donald, " man that would be so Donald
That's all it was Donald, we still love Donald
And I love you like Donald loves Donald
>>2374767á´uá´lossnW did not take any socialism from the left though
The problem with National Socalism was that it was neither nationalist nor socialist.
It was imperialist, full stop.
>>2374768Strasserites were much more than nationalists. They were antisemites and racists.
It is disingenuous to conflate nationalism and racism.
>>2374785too many people here think that being socialist means pissing on the history of a people.
There is a difference between doing away with backwards thinking and habits (specially concerning women's rights etc), and throwing whole historical epochs in the dustbin in one go.
>>2374786you are a moron
DDR, Czechoslovakia, Hungary were great places to live
Poland, Romania, Bulgaria had their issues but were still more than okay
>>2374793Well, yes and no.
Socialism throws away the bourgeois elements of culture and puts the proletarian history and culture of a nation on a golden pedestal. Or in the case of the chinese cultural revolution, it takes bourgeois culture and turns it into something revolutionary and proletarian. As ironically the Frankfurt School discussed, capitalism destroys culture, it rots it away, it makes culture impractical and uses it to uphold the power of the bourgeoisie.
>>2374800>advantageagain with the yankee banker reasoning
The national side is not desired. It is inevitable. It is simply about looking at a spade and calling it a spade.
Communists do not deal with the national question with pleasure but ignoring it or screeching at it will ensure one's lasting irrelevance Ă la Leftcom/anarchism
>>2374800>The first thing a socialist would want after their nation has build socialism is for other nations to spread socialismof course it is 'wanted'. But that's it. One can work in one's country and build socialism in it, while 'desiring' that others follow suit. Whether they will, however, is in the hands of the proletariat of those countries.
Socialism in one country does not mean socialism in only one country and nowhere else lol. It simply means the proletariat can physically act for socialism only in his country. Else the other peoples will see the foreign Proletarian Army as an illegitimate foreign invader.
>>2374806>again with the yankee banker reasoningI have no idea what that means.
>ignoring it or screeching at it will ensure one's lasting irrelevance Ă la Leftcom/anarchismNo one said anything about ignoring it you illiterate retard. I said you can acknowledge it but it's useless to incorporate nationalism, the CONCEPT AND IDEOLOGY, into socialism because nations don't do anything themselves. It's always bourgeoise against prols. If a socialist "nation" fights back against imperialism it's not the nation who fought back but the proleteriat inside it that did. Not to mention the reactionary elements of nationalism that could kill a rising socialist goal/movement as soon the the bourgeoisie sees an easy opportunity for it like with the rise of Nazis
>>2374774National strougle of colonised people against colonial rule, at least at the early stages of a socialist revolution atempt it is desireble.
Ho Chi Minh was one of the marxists that ever lived
>>2374842God willed a Great Flood to punish the lumpen-hooligans (Moffin' and Houdini).
But Prophet Felix PBUH is building a great ark to save the righteous ones. Just do not mind the cum-stained Putin pics on the deck.
>>2374865Id rather live in Texas than in California
Conservatives are stupid but honest
Cali liberals are insufferable liars
>>2374855>The military is the greatest threat to everyoneâs livescompletely wrong
The bourgeoisie is the greatest threat
>>2374881lol fucking pussies
ICE is next
>>2374881smh what's the point even
at least if they posted their bootyholes..
>>2374898that's his granddaughter
I forgot her name
cannon only in the Russian version though
I smell the bodies, I canât take it anymore": Daniel Edri (24) ended his life yesterday
Haunted by the horrors of war and the loss of his closest friends, 24-year-old Israeli reservist Daniel Adri took his own life in a forest near Safed. His tragic death lays bare the silent, growing toll of psychological trauma among soldiers returning from the battlefield.
https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/israeli-soldier-trauma-suicide>>2374580When the hell are you going to stop this "Original Sin"/"Kill all Treatlerites" style spookery, Felix?
I have to remind you of these facts (Originally written by Houdini) as a typical conversation between a "third worldist" (a westerner):
>Americans are all treatlers, our quality of life is only so high because of imperialism!<ok, but 9% of americans don't have running water>no you don't get it, we need our treats or the hogs will get mad<ok, but 25% of americans are effectively unemployed and living in poverty>no you don't get it, the only way things could be this good is because of imperialism<ok, but 10% of americans do 50% of the spending and the bottom 50% does effectively none>no, you don't get it, look check out my patreon exclusive podcast, that explains everything<ok, but you're making 270,000 a year via patreon, so maybe that's why you shill for imperialism with this treatler shit >>2374905retarded Felix is right on this one
the americans are complicit in the imperialism of their ruling class
>>2374905you will not convince me that disgusting yankees are an oppressed nation lol
you are feasting on the spoils of US imperialism at the detriment of the rest of the world
>>2374912Mossad did him dirty
man was about to reveal some secrets
>>2374905you will never convince the global south to align yourself with your struggles with those green/orange texts when the vast majority of the world has a net immigration towards the empire, and not otherwise.
you are silly. Americans are much more accommodated, nato is more accommodated, and that's the results of the exploitations they execute to the global south.
>>2374908>>2374910No He isn't, he's just a retarded spooked by Christcuck mentality of Origional Sin and childishly seeing people as bad for being born in "the bad place". As
>>2374634 said:
>politics isn't a zero sum game where one country is full of Always Chaotic Evil orcs and everyone else is innocent. For someone who calls other people childish you have a very infantile black and white worldview that assumes everyone born in the "bad place" is evil except for you which is more reminiscent of a children's cartoon than actual materialist analysisAnd BTW, Felix jerked off to pictures of Putin, really shows how schizo he is.
>>2374931>>2374934>>2374938>>2374940Or maybe you two should realize that you're treating the whole "The Third World" will come and save us/kill the treaterlites" as your own version of the Rapture.
Again, you are spooked by "Noble Savage" BS about the third world. Besides; the Maoist Third Worldist position seems especially absurd given that weâre watching a Genocide in Palestine right now and the various developing nations surrounding it arenât doing anything to stop itâbeyond the Houthis that is.
>>2374945exactly
the lazy assholes who treat on the spoils of American imperialism whine and moan the loudest, as if they are the worst off people in the world
americans have no shame truly
>>2374946The third world 'will not come to save you'
I live in the third world already
no one will save you
we just want you to stop bitching when you are fully complicit in your state's bullying against us
>>2374946>>2374950 (me)
I am a non-white living in Africa
I need no lecture about noble savage and third worldism
>>2374955exactly
but you can't expect an Eastern European christian to use his brain, can you?
>>2374945Again, 50 percent of the spending in the USA is done only by 10 percent of the American Population. And 25 percent of the population is unemployed and living in poverty.
Stop doing your Moralist bullshit. The capitalists are screwing everyone over, Third-worldist and westerner. Black and WHite. Male and Female.
The sooner you realize this, maybe the sooner people can actually achieve communism instead of going on massive pity parties over who is suffering more like a bunch of christcucks spooked by slave morality.
>>2374956im not a third worldist
im a third worlder
america must drown
>>2374967>underpriviledgedthis word assumes there is a correct level of privilege-ness
you are a slave owner from the south, I already know it
>>2374973No, I just think it's extremely unlikely that a third worlder would even know about this website and typically those with internet access in third-world countries typically are part of the upper classes there.
It's very easy to pretend to be someone else on a Anonymous image-board and to make up stories.
>>2374978why is it unlikely?
you know American culture dominates worldwide right, even more so on the internet, specially if the country is English speaking
do you think the third world is all huts and bushes, anarcho-crackka?
>>2374978>ppl with internet access in third world countries are part of the upper classyou are insane
in small Indian villages, ppl do not even have running water but they have internet
in South African townships, life is horrible, but ppl have internet
by the way you reason, you are definitely part of the upper class lol
>>2374984>Why does Trump love Ziocock so much?Trump admins follow the general needs of USAno policy, just as Democrats do. But the Trump admins are particularly spectacle minded and the culture war becomes the main thing. He isn't any more Zionist than whoever comes after himself.
Democrats had their approach doing much of the same Zionism as Trump, he is just much more flamboyant about it. It's his thing. They are all talking heads for the burgeoisie and the deep state anyway.
>>2374981>>2374985How about you and Felix stop believing in spooks like the Third-Worldist Original Sin to try to guilt trip people instead of realizing that the bourgeoisie are screwing everyone over.
You assholes doesn't actually care about achieving communism. You just want to alienate people just so that you can have your immature revenge fantasies.
>>2375005both of the posts you replied to are me (that is, not Felix)
I dont even like Felix but you keep seeing him in me
>>2375009fuck idi amin
fuck the Ugandan indians
fuck the Ugandan blacks
fuck the Ugandan honkys
they can all go fuck themselves
>>2375014Bot detected
>>2375013Yeah like I said in my post:
>the various developing nations surrounding it arenât doing anything to stop itâbeyond the Houthis that is. >>2375002>>2375013>>2375018Honestly, I brought this up a few hours ago, but what's the excuse third worldists have for the developing nations not doing jack shit about Palestine?
>"B-Buh the U.S. would sanction them!"Oh, so they're treatlers afraid of losing some goodies?
>"B-buh their governments are comprador elites!"I'm asking why aren't the people themselves doing anything, the same thing third worldists relentlessly use to criticize first world proles.
>"B-buh if they do anything, they'll be killed!"So will people here, but that's never been enough of a reason for third worldists
>"B-buh south africa brought a case to the ICJ!"Oh, so now bourgeois institutionalism is revolutionary?
Seriously, where's this mythic horde of third world revolutionaries who are so self-sacrificing they'll do
anything and will travel any length to stop injustice anywhere in the world? Better yet, where are the third worldists going to Israel to physically fight against the genocide? It's always "Oh, you're all COWARDS" but if you live in the imperial core you've probably got better chances of getting a plane ticket to Tel Aviv and doing something behind the lines of the IDF, but y'all ain't. What gives?
Now I know third worldists never defend their position, preferring instead to just go on the offense, but some basic explanation of why we haven't seen anything from them as this genocide drags on would be appreciated.
>>2374898>>2374902Snegurochka, Snow Maiden. She's meant to be the granddaughter of "Santa Claus", aka Ded Moroz(Grandfather Frost).
It's more connected to folklore than the Saint Nick stuff.
>>2374994Based
Kill this guy
>>2374996 next
>>2375032>>2375013>>2375018oh, I see how it is. the responsibility on the genocide is laid on the shoulders of the global south, and not the perpetrators of the genocide. no matter how real push the global south does, it's not enough for you, therefore, it's a failure, and for that reason Americans are salvable of the demise they (YOU) deserve. Because surely, (YOU) did more.
lmao.
>>2375043American capitalism killed European culture
bolshevism could never do that even if they tried (spoiler:
they did not try, they had no intention to )
>>2375049there is no American proletariat
in America you have all classes except peasants and proletariat
but have fun smashing windows and looting Yeezys with your revolutionary lumpen-hooligans lol
>>2375039See? You're not actually putting up a defense for third worldism, you're just going on the attack again because you know you've got no excuse.
>no matter how real push the global south doesWhat fucking push? Other than the Houthis, are they actively attacking Israel? No? Then that's nothing.
Secondly y'all are the ones who constantly say "Oh America is hopeless"; your entire ideology relies on this idea that the "authentic" revolutionaries are in the third world. But they're doing nothing. Zero. Zilch.
Seriously, where are these third world revolutionaries you put your hopes in? Could it be, gasp, they
don't exist? >>2375060>americans can survive without wage slavingamerica has one of the biggest wealth gaps on the planet, homelessness is above 700,000 people, the safety nets for the unemployed are some of the worst in the western world
So no, there is a proletariat.
>>2375056>>2375059no the blood and crips are not proletarian
no the crackker farmers are not proleterian
no the strippers are not proletarian
no the Starbucks retards are not proletarians
no the immigrants are not proletarians
no the shit rappers are not proletarians
no the Hollywood retards are not proletarians
no the bodega monkeys are not proletarians
DEATH TO A M E R I K K K A
>>2375063the only way to be unemployed in America is to be a lazy, stupid animal who does not want to work
one who does not have to work
I hate america
>>2375067also ignored the anti-immigrant shit in there
>>2375068people just say verifiably false things
>>2374945This post sounds like some reactionary falseflagging
>obnoxious demiqueer neopagan anarchistDamn I was right. You know that's not the homeless guy(lemme guess you consider them the "landlords or the sidewalks") down the street or some guys being used as a slave labor
If you respond to this admit my cock is huge btw
>>2375067Starbucks is anti-communist
picrel only is revolutionary
>>2375073Unironically saw a video of Egyptians apparently protesting aid going
into Gaza and trying to stop them.
And still not a single third worldist can explain why the global south isnât doing anything; minus the Houthis again.
>>2375073your crackka-loving muslims have not done shit for Palestine
your protests do not mean shit
The Free Mandela concerts in London did not end apartheid, UMKHONTO WE SIZWE did
>>2375076the Egyptians are not obsessed by the Palestinian struggle
one day you will learn that America's obsession is not the world's obsession
Most Arabs outside America do not give a fuck about Palestine and they will happily trade with Satanic Israel if it benefits them
>>2375061I swear there really is no way whatsoever to organize on this godforsaken website. Every attempt to even try to link up with comrades or even so much as discuss current events and strategy in a meaningful manner is beset by an endless tied of perpetually angry sectarian gremlins who's only coherent position is that they're violently against you doing anything. If this is the result of cointelpro then congrats, you broke leftypol. Now what's the next step of your master plan?
I'm so tired man. I just wanna destroy America, is that so much to ask?
>>2375061>You're not actually putting up a defense for third worldismWhere have I advocated for TW? recognizing that Americans have 0 interest in a revolution because they live like kings with the crumbs gave by their ruling class is not advocacy for TW. It's simply stating the obvious.
>What fucking push?>Other than the HouthisIran helped as much as they could Hezbollah to run operations, from Syria and Lebanon. FYI. And what did you do (many communists in America, and in nato)? demonize Syria and Iran, word by word repeating state department propaganda through the ngos infiltrated in the "left".
>Secondly y'all are the ones who constantly say "Oh America is hopeless"; your entire ideology relies on this idea that the "authentic" revolutionaries are in the third world. But they're doing nothing.I live in a country that have had its socialist revolution already. you are weird, pretending that the world around the US/nato isn't changing.
>>2375089for the millionth time
I am not a third worldist
third worldism is retarded
and what was racist about my post? What was classist?
>>2375091global south solidarity is a myth
as a third worlder, I can tell you that only first worlders believe in this
>>2375087Hmm it's almost like the CPUSA exists to destroy any legitimate left wing movements in America and funnel them into bourgeois electoralism. Almost like it was taken over by the feds long ago and weaponized against us.
Everyone on here is willfully ignorant of history and at some point it has to be an intentional choice.
>>2375081Once again, it is America that is oppressing your precious Volk. If you want to free them, along with the rest of the world, America MUST be destroyed. There is literally no other option.
America has no right to exist, nor should it. Anyone who disagrees is a nationalist, and therefore a fascist.
>>2375100>death of brown peoplewhat does that even mean lol
you just use brown and black people as objects to deal low blows to your opponents
>>2375107when it comes to America, it is black and white
america = bad, simple as
>>2375109that's all fucking communists can do nowadays
hold celebrations
fuckign disgrace
>>2375111I am a brown man, so I know a bit more than you
where did Felix call for the death of brown people in general exatlyt?
>>2375100You would gladly sacrifice billions of brown people so your precious volk can have a little more comfort and yet you still have the absolute nerve to accuse anyone else of being a racist.
All you have done is de-racialized the Aryan, while keeping the ideology of murder and plunder in tact. You are nothing more than a Nazi with a rainbow sticker. Worse, even, because the Nazis were at least honest about what they were.
>>2375097No you fucking retard it's the fault of you and people like you. You cant see anyone organizing without throwing a hissy fit and insisting we immediately form an army and overthrow the government on your behalf, otherwise we're all treatlerite Strasserists that want to sacrifice humanity to save the volk. That's you, that's always been you. You singlehandedly ruin any semblance of productive discussion almost daily with your bullshit and you have nothing to show for it. If you're not doing this shit deliberately to stifle leftist organization you might as well be because you do nothing but wreck every space you come into contact with.
The rest of us fucking want to see America destroyed, literally nobody disagrees with that but you've conjured up a vision in your head of the rest of us being Nazis because I guess we're not in your cadre which is the only legitimate means of establishing communism.
>>2375122what is the point of organising with American liberals and fascists?
there is no revolutionary potential in America
the temptation of the Yeezys and the Taylor Swift album are too strong for the feeble minded consumerist American animal
>>2375115Doing 0.00001 of stuff to stop the genocide is still more than 0 which is effectively what the Global South⢠has done to aid Palestine.
Greta Thurnberg>>>>The entire Muslim Brotherhood.
>>2375126>>2375126for the billionth time, I am a third worlder and not a third worldist
and global south isn't one place you retard
a person in Indonesia has not fucking idea what is going on in Namibia
>>2375114I am also a brown African man, so I spit on your projection.
The same way you are being racist.
Advocating for unlimited genocide on a people based on national lines pretending everyone is white. If you hate Amerikkkans like Iron Glowie, do us all a favor and start killing yourselves first before asking for the death of le lumpenprols
>>2375125nope, the government is a fair representation of the people
both gotta go
>>2375143yes
cannot let the Turtle Island retardation to regenerate
and thanks for the leninhat speech, I love the scientific truths he spits in it
>>2375132lmao this shithole is so fucking pathetic praising electoralism over the mayor of fucking NY wasn't enough they now need to mindlessly praise politicians from other countries
anyway jara was already disavowing anything deemed "too leftist" to get votes, especially all the shit the chilean radlib party said during the 2019 riots
already called it a week ago that retarded gringos would be like this because they are completely incapable of critical reasoning lol
>>>/latam/9475 >>2375150there we go, thanks for the clarification comrade
those USAPOL morons saw on google that Jara from a communist party is leading the polls, in a country they know nothing about and they start lecturing me about 'Le Global South'
Yankees must be bitchslapped harder
>>2375147the leninhat copypasta was not written by leninhat but as satire of bloodthirsty schizophrenia
PS: The british empire and third reich both collapsed into irrelevance without needing to kill everyone. i suspect so will the zionazis and burgers. The chinese feel bad for us.
>>2375043Most of it definitely only got popular in the 19th century anyway. A lot of Russians get mad if you
1) Call it Christmas. It's New Year's, Novy God
2) Call him Santa Claus. He's Ded Moroz/Grandfather Frost.
3) Claim he's the same thing. He's a personification of winter, not a saint that got distorted over time. He comes from a 19th century Russian play, and in turn based on some old Slavic mythology about a winter spirit/god, hard to find much info on him. Same play also made another folklore character, Sengurochka, his daughter, but apparently became his grand daughter during the USSR.
But the gift giving was definitely influenced by Santa Claus. He and Christmas trees were apparently banned under the Tsar for being too German, and then banned under the Bolsheviks for being too bourgeoisie, but Stalin got convinced to bring all back for the sake of children and just made it a New Year's holiday. I still think it's one of the best examples of secularizing something and it becoming permanent and loved. In fact it was made more suited for the country, since Christmas is traditionally celebrated in the first week of January in the Orthodox calendar, not the 25th, and New Year's is removed from both of those. Russians still get mad at American Santa and Coca-cola stuff.
>>2375162hahahah so calling for the death of americans is equal to calling for the death of everybody else?
you are a liberal
>>2375163No we are replying to them, you're just ignoring them because you don't actually want to engage with what we say, just dismiss us as "treaterlites" despite us telling you multiple times that the bourgeoisie are the primary benefactors of imperialism.
Of course you'd see other Americans as 'treatlerites" because you mainly are one yourself. It's like how right-wingers see everyone as violent thugs, because they are projecting.
>>2375081Some justified resentment for the global empire. Annoying but very understanding.
Some absolutely divide and conquer COINTELPRO psyops or reactionaries, absolutely they're in there. They always cheer on some reactionary shit tearing people apart, likely /pol/tards larping
>>2375183because he had a seemingly decent manifesto which he failed miserably in doing
I'm still optimistic
>>2375065>no the immigrants are not proletarians >bodega monkeysAnd a sieg heil to that!
Definitely some /pol/ falseflag, or a very un self aware dumbass
>>2375192bodega owners are not proletarians
I will not apologise for calling the petit bourgeois monkeys
IDpol has rotted your brains
>>2375205just like the libs calling all their critics 'Russian bots'
truly, USApol is just LibtardPol
>>2375207he's gonna jazz on the munition
can't fire if the gunpowder is wet
>>2375209picrel is what egoismAnon and CPUSA defend
and like all liberals, they are master gaslighters, they dare say I am the one wanting the genocide of brown people lol
>>2375101>nationalistI hate that this term is used both for
national chauvinists and national liberation movements. It causes so much "confusion."
Exclusive: DOJ, FBI conclude Epstein had no "client list," committed suicide
President Trump's Justice Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures, kept a "client list" or was murdered, according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios.
The administration is releasing a video â in both raw and "enhanced" versions â that it says indicates no one entered the area of the Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died in 2019.
The video supports a medical examiner's finding that Epstein committed suicide, the two-page memo claims.
Why it matters: The findings represent the first time Trump's administration has officially contradicted conspiracy theories about Epstein's activities and his death â theories that had been pushed by the FBI's top two officials before Trump appointed them to the bureau.
As social media influencers and activists, Kash Patel (now the FBI's director) and Dan Bongino (now deputy director) were among those in MAGA world who questioned the official version of how Epstein died.
Patel and Bongino have since said Epstein committed suicide. But it has become an article of faith online, especially on the right, that Epstein's crimes also implicated government officials, celebrities and business leaders â and that someone killed him to conceal them.
The memo says no one else involved in the Epstein case will be charged. (Epstein's associate Ghislaine Maxwell is serving a 20-year sentence for child sex trafficking and related offenses.)
Zoom in: According to the memo, investigators closely examined footage of Epstein's Manhattan prison cell between around 10:40 pm on Aug. 9, 2019, when Epstein was locked in his cell, and around 6:30 am the next day, when he was found unresponsive.
The footage, which was reviewed by Axios but couldn't be verified independently, showed no one entering the area, the administration said.
"The FBI enhanced the relevant footage by increasing its contrast, balancing the color, and improving its sharpness for greater clarity and viewability," the memo says.
Investigators found "no incriminating 'client list' " of Epstein's, "no credible evidence … that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals," and no "evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties," the memo adds.
Zoom out: As MAGA influencers, Patel and Bongino had been among the loudest voices touting Epstein conspiracy theories.
Since joining the government as Trump appointees they've been more measured in talking about the Epstein investigation, and thrown cold water on the notion he was murdered.
"He killed himself," Bongino said on Fox News in May. "I've seen the whole file."
MAGA's media universe and some of its voices on Capitol Hill have expressed frustration with the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein case since February, when DOJ released a tranche of Epstein-related files that were already publicly available.
Conservative figures panned the disclosure, saying it lacked new information.
"THIS IS NOT WHAT WE OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ASKED FOR and a complete disappointment," Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.) posted then. "GET US THE INFORMATION WE ASKED FOR!"
The intrigue: When Elon Musk had a falling out with Trump last month, Musk accused the president of being "in the Epstein files."
Trump posted on Truth Social a statement from former Epstein lawyer David Schoen, saying Trump wasn't implicated in any crime. Schoen had also represented Trump in his first impeachment trial.
Musk later deleted his accusation and other posts on X, saying he "went too far."
Still, the questions about whether Trump's name is in the government's Epstein files have persisted because they had been acquaintances who attended the same parties in the 1990s.
In a 2017 interview with author Michael Wolff, Epstein even claimed that at one point he was "Donald Trump's closest friend."
Trump, however, said in 2019 that he was "not a fan of Epstein" and hadn't "spoken to him for 15 years." He also said he had barred Epstein from his golf resorts in the early 2000s.
Democrats, meanwhile, have demanded to know more about the Epstein-Trump relationship.
What's next: The DOJ and FBI say in the memo that no "further disclosure" of Epstein-related material "would be appropriate or warranted."
The memo says much of the material relates to child sexual abuse, details of Epstein's victims, and information that would expose innocent individuals to "allegations of wrongdoing."
"Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure of those materials and will not permit the release of child pornography," the memo says.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration>>2375216>not all americans are bad, only a small percentage of them join the military<THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DEFENDING…………………… no, ………………….. those are definitely some of the ones who
should be killed in a civil war …………………………..
>>2375216Or maybe you'll pulling shit out of your ass to try to make yourself seem better. And we never defended that.
Again, you just want a dumb revenge fantasy instead of coming to the realization that this rebranded burger christcuck spookery called "Third Worldisim" has been wrong and will continue to be wrong because the third world isn't automatically "revolutionary", giving how they haven't done anything to stop the genocide in Palestine.
The only people in the third world who are doing anything for Palestine are the Houthis, everyone else in the third world especially in the middle east isn't doing anything to stop it. Which basically disproves the whole "Glorious Third Worldist JDPON Revolutionaries!" meme you believe in.
>>2375245For the trillionth time, I am not a third worldist, I am a third worlder.
Global South solidarity is a myth which only westerners believe.
I have said the above more than 5 times now, learn how to read.
>>2375245you are here bitching that the third world did not go die in Gaza but you defend the American population as an oppressed nation lol
Gaslightus Maximus
>>2375258why entertain the impossible
I would love them to shut the base they have on an island of my country
>>2375246No I don't think that you retard, I never wanted Abu Ghraib to happen and think it's a terrible tragedy that should never have happened. Again, you're the one who wants to kill people.
Again, you are projecting when you say things like that, perhaps you need psychological help.
>>2375272the anarchy-moron is mentally ill
he thinks everyone who disagrees with him is Iron Felix
>>2375265No I'm not, I'm not spooked by christian guilt or by the Fed created ideology of Maoisim Third Worldism.
>>2375269Got any proof that you're actually from there, buddy? Again it is extremely easy to claim to be from somewhere on a Anonymous imageboard and using a VPN to spoof your location.
>>2375273Socialism was destroyed through the combined will of some of the most powerful economies on earth, hundreds of forced regime changes, deliberately encouraging division between socialist nations, economic liberalism and embargos and blockades.
A new, up-to-date centralised economy, in a world where the capitalist powers are significantly weaker, under the guidance and lessons taught by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and all the other leaders of the USSR, China, Cuba etc. will show us the way to a much more stable socialism.
BREAKING: EPSTEIN KILLED HIMSELF, CLIENT LIST DOESNT EXIST, TRUMP APPOINTED FBI SAYS:
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administrationPresident Trump's Justice Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures, kept a "client list" or was murdered, according to a memo detailing the findings.
The administration is releasing a video â in both raw and "enhanced" versions â that it says indicates no one entered the area of the Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died in 2019. The video supports a medical examiner's finding that Epstein committed suicide, the two-page memo claims.
The findings represent the first time Trump's administration has officially contradicted conspiracy theories about Epstein's activities and his death â theories that had been pushed by the FBI's top two officials before Trump appointed them to the bureau.
THE FBI MEMO:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25991994/final-draft-e.pdf>>2375286There is no Epstein list move along!
trust trump!
All anti-zionist leftist love Wholesome anti-zionist Democrat small bean chungus
"israel has right to exist as a state" "I am not a Communist" anti-Communist zohran. Only third world ultras will deny that Democrat Socialism in the Capital of Monopoly Capital is the ultimate defeat of bourgeois. The democrat party finally is socialist.Class consciousness has triumphed finally and grass root socialism has prevailed.
>>2375281Yes nazi germany has right to exist as long as it magically grants jews and all the other people theyre killing equal rights. Thank you for your theoretical contribution, lib
>>2375332if he destroys a factory, he would be harming the workers of that factory
iron Felix is just a lumpen animal it seems
>>2375335lol
imagine being in line to receive food and/or medicine aid after a storm blew away your entire town and the person about to give it to you asks "do you condom khgamasssss????"
>>2375347>BOGThey know.
Shut it down.
>>2375350>>2375347Bog also means 'God' in Russian
Sooooo…….
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>>2375361 >>2374871Very conservative tier retard post
Something the South Park writers would say
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