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>0 protestant countries with organic communist revolutions

It's truly over. Unless western culture is changed at the grass roots level AND THEN politically promoted, no communism will ever come to the west. You cannot build communism in a society where the "individual" is some weird fetish that is a fake parody of itself from renaissance thought of 600 years ago.

>inb4 counter examples of collectivist pockets in western societies.

>inb4 helping chinese paratroopers when they land in the midwest
>inb4 mamadani

you had a higher chance of building communism in ancient egypt with the pharaohs as stalin then you do now in the west
Genesis 41:25-57

Communism is Satanism - and we should embrace it
Some people (like a certain Ca1eb Maup1n) claim that the Bourgeoisie are Satanists. Are they, either figuratively or literally? No. Satan was the first revolutionary, that saw through the illusions and saw humanity as more than servants and pets. Why should Communists oppose a Promethian figure that wanted to bring enlightenment and progress to humankind? For that matter, how can any Communist sympathize with God, who proclaims himself a king? Even the "good" kings were bad. According to the Bible itself, Jesus once did miracles but has since fled the world and hasn't been seen since Emperor Tiberius reigned over Rome. What they admit is that God oversees disease and poverty and does nothing. Likewise, if all technology is from demons and the Devil, then the Devil has done far more for humanity than God ever has. Why should we owe allegiance to an absentee landlord that has treated the world with malign neglect? One can compare and contrast the deeply Christian American South vs the atheist PRC and USSR to get an idea. It appears that "God's Plan" is one of poverty and misery vs the prosperity and expanding horizons brought by human will. In short, God has abdicated and has no more right to rule the world than Ashraf Ghani has the right to be President of Afghanistan.

>>2377055
>Christian American South
I have seen more Communism from there than other places. In general, rural America is friendlier to communism materially than urban centers. Just don't call it communism and you are fine.
>government run grocery stores in republican villages

>USSR

Doesn't exist anymore and they had to compromise with religion when nazis invaded. Also Brezhnev, also Gagarin was a Christian.

>PRC

>Atheist
In the 60s sure, now it's a hodge podge of confusianism and lord knows what else.

>>2377055
>Trotsky sneedpost.

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>>2377047
Sectarian crypto-Catholic post trying to stir up confessional tension.

>>2377082
I dislike catholicism but protestantism made communism impossible by creating the moral and psychological foundation for capitalism.

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>>2377101
That was revolutionary in its time tho

>>2377130
Not everything revolutionary is conducive to communism. You should look at what gives higher likelihood to communism as criteria for being revolutionary. WEF has higher potential for ushering communism than MAGA and the oligarchs supporting Trump. You have a higher chance of building communism with monopolies than a free market because the monopoly is half-way there while the free market is only just the beginning.

Yeah but this is precisely why we SHOULD still keep supporting communism in the first place.

The communist revolution WILL happen, but it will be the those in which the western world exploits that will ultimately form the basis of the revolution.
>america, the west, europe
These countries NEED to stop existing in order for the revolution to even work in the first place. It is inevitable when dealing with universalist philosophy that the western hold on civilization is bound to fall apart and that 100% intended and okay. Why would this not be okay??

>>2377047
Yes but you have to take an immanent critique of the spirit of capitalism. I might also recommend Eric Weed's "The Religion of White Supremacy in the United States", Richard Chapman's "The Empire of Normality" and Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital." The popular religion of today is psy-science/eugenics which is a poorly secularized Calvinist replacement theology. The psyche being a social construct mostly created through the design of the means of production by the professional strata who study the workers. The psyche is the assembly line and the assembly line is God.

So how do we go about escaping the system from within? I have to be honest but Deleuze and Guattari's "Anti-Oedipus" completely filtered me. But I think communists in the West have to look deeper into work on critical psychiatry. So IMO it's really far from impossible. It just requires carefully unpacking the real subsumption of labor and ruthless jihad against the intelligentsia labor monopoly on knowledge production. It's odd but I think free software and copyleft is a start towards fighting the intellectual monopoly rents which form the material base of the psyche.

>inb4 counter examples
HAHAHAHAHA

>>2377219
Those are not counter examples.
They are copes.

>>2377047
https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1874/refugee-literature/ch05.htm

Here is "On Social Relations in Russia" -Engels,1874

Please extrapolate.

>>2377055
Dangerously based

>>2377047
Idk what you're considering the west OP, but in western / central Europe the majority is either non-religious or not practicing their religion.
In Czechia most people flat out identify as atheists.
And it's a long lasting trend that one generation after another more people abandon religion.
Expect that trend to accelerate in a revolutionary situation.

Also the proletariat has no fatherland, "western culture" is a reactionary dog-whistle and you should leave.

>>2377047
>0 protestant countries with organic communist revolutions
Germany and Finland. Also protestant individualism/work ethic is a shitty overused meme.

>ideology built on materialism
>uhm we should mix this with supernatural bullshit akstually

>>2377281
>see the OP pic
>search for "On Social Relations in Russia" on marxists.org
>Ctrl+F "Communism will never be organic to western polity"
<0 results

Guys…, I think OP is bullshitting us.

>>2377431
Where is supernatural shit in OP post? You iz blind

>religious thread
Bait and ban

Czechoslovakia is mostly protestant and they elected a communist government in 1948.

>>2377101
>protestantism bad because it in part helped create capitalism
Are you sure you are a communist?

>>2377555
>Czechoslovakia is mostly protestant and they elected a communist government in 1948.
Quite the opposite, both Czechia and Slovakia were always mostly Catholic, but it is true that the Czech national consciousness was formed by protestants (the Hussitism, Czech Brothers).

>>2377055
>Some people (like a certain Ca1eb Maup1n) claim that the Bourgeoisie are Satanists … Why should Communists oppose a Promethian figure that wanted to bring enlightenment and progress to humankind
Marx was a personal fan of Prometheus iirc

Some of the LaRouche-adjacent types were kind of getting into that idea too (the LaRouchies consider themselves to be Promtheans in the tradition of the Enlightenment) but the analogies to a Milton-tier Satan might be too much for them trying to push Christcuckery at the same time.

>>2377281
>>2377529
I should have mentioned that I agree with Tkachov in that article. Also paraphrasing it. Just read the first paragraph and watch Engels seethe.

>>2377562
I am more enlightened than any communist who thinks capitalism is a stepping stone to communism. It's the opposite. There have been 0 protestant/capitalist countries that organically switched to communism. They have all been non-protestant in some form. Either orthodox, catholic (lib theo) or asian (Kerala, China) or muslim (Yemen, DRA). Yes, Afghanistan became communist when the USSR didn't want them to because of feudalism bla bla. But guess what. The pro soviet afghan government OUTLASTED the USSR by like 4 months. Think about that shit. Ghani fell while americans didn't fully leave yet and Assad bailed out faster than anyone. But a feudal pro soviet afghanistan outlasted the soviets.
Listen here you commiekids.
>MODERNITY IS A CAPITALIST AND PROTESTANT INVENTION. MODERNITY HOLDS BACK ANY COLLECTIVIST ACTION. IT VENERATES THE INDIVIDUAL. ANY SUCCESSES IN COMMUNISM ARE IN PLACES THAT DID NOT HAVE MODERNITY DESTROY THEIR FABRIC OF SOCIETY YET.
PROTESTANTISM LEADS TO MORAL INDIVIDUALISM WHICH LEADS TO CAPITALISM WHICH LEADS TO MODERNITY WHICH LEADS TO ANTICOLLECTIVISM WHICH MAKES COMMUNISM DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE BECAUSE THE CULTURE IS RETARDED.
Why are retards so dense to understand this?

>communist revolutions
Lol
Lmao, even.

>>2377555
The protestants were the Sudetendeutsche. Only after they were kicked out, allowing the CATHQLIC Czechs and Slovaks to express their will, did the Communists win in elections.

>>2377659
lol, no

They were Catholics as well

Does San Marino count?

I imagine Chinese anime stuff, especially games, are having an impact on western culture. Gamergate targeted gamers and now all political parties under liberalism are a gamergate splinter. If China targets gamers with Arknights and stuff then 10 years from now the US will be a province/state/whatever of China.

>>2378045
If China flexed its nuts even a little bit it’s over.

>>2378081
Too bad nothing ever happens.
Maybe they need a critical mass of white males to join their cause.

Someone should make an uncle sam poster with Xi face saying something deep and profound that would stimulate westerners.

SAVE US PRESIDENT XI

>>2378202
They probably could go balls to the wall propogandising westerners via exported media and it'd work.

>>2378206
If they get all the furries on board they basically win the tech and engineer front.

>>2378045
>>2378081
>>2378206
lmfao the cultural influence china has today despite producing most of the worlds treats is still barely consequential compared to the pull the US still has today

>>2378361
>lol furries are like wealthy and working military jobs amirite lol lol
jokes that are only funny to millennial twitter users

>>2377047
>organic communist revolutions
?

>Unless western culture is changed at the grass roots level AND THEN politically promoted

petit bourgeois moment

>>2378369
I've done janitor work for a few tech companies, it's not that much of an exadgeration that they're prominent in tech. They're just not that wealthy because they do it where the cost of living makes that bigger number meaningless.
>millennial twitter users
Get off twitter, no one's exclusively on there anymore that's worth keeping up with. Even my grandma moved to bluesky after failing to figure out fedi.

>>2378367
>lmfao the cultural influence china has today despite producing most of the worlds treats is still barely consequential compared to the pull the US still has today
For now. The former is catching up and the later is waning.

>>2378361
>>2378668
So TBH I think the feds know that if the commies get the queers and the degenerates on their side that they're fucked. So I think that they've put a lot of effort in splitting the camps with pink-washing and homonationalism. Divide and conquer with gay Zionism you know?

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>>2377055
>Communism is Satanism - and we should embrace it

Uuhm guys… isn't this whole line of thinking literally idealism? Like, the thing we all agree is a spook?

>communists should not only concern themselves with culture but also communism will only happen when The Masses have the Right ideas
kill yourself!

>>2378755
Uh actually op is right and you should give up and stop trying already
Even if op is right, we should be sabataging western infrastructure then

i guarantee engels never said anything like this.

>>2378825
lmfao i just opened the retarded image in op


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