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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Lal Salaam comrades
I am making this thread to ask indo-anons about the Bharat Bandh, i.e a nationwide strike by 10 major unions in India. It supposedly targeted 250million workers across India, but I am highly skeptical they got even 5million.
Also, since there is no India general, I figured a country with 1.4billion people and with a lot of drama under Modi's Rule deserves a thread where all the spice can be shared and discussed, among distinguished leftists.
inb4 the trolls : ignore trolls, do not feed their bait

crowd pics in OP are from Communist rallies in the past, NOT from yesterday's and today's strikes.

Death to the RSS and all it’s affiliated organizations

Why are all the most based Indians I've ever met Sikhs? Are they known for being left wing and/or especially chill?

India street food is a danger to mankind

>>2383962
Just dont fucking eat it my guy.

India is however one of the most stable rightist states in the world. Highly unlikely that a revolution takes place there at the moment.

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>>2384001
>Highly unlikely that a revolution takes place there at the moment.
Retard.

>>2384007
I don't think the Naxals are about to take power any time soon comrade and the CPI are blatant social imperialists.

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>>2384030
>I don't think the Naxals are about to take power any time soon
>comrade
<no you see a revolutionary party that is actively fighting fascism, dying for the masses, uniting the most revolutionary sectors of the working class and peasantry, they don't count, because uh the revolution is not over yet…
You are no comrade, to me or the martyrs and livi g fighters if you blind yourself like that.

>no CPI elephant yet

>>2383959
Try to not categorise whole ethnic/linguistic/religious groups as one political ideology.
IT happens often when foreigners think of India and by many Indians themselves, e.g North Indians = cringe fascists, South Indians = based communists, Sikhs = great warriors etc etc.

>>2384001
oh it is not stable at all lol
Modi keeps stirring the pot with absolutely no 'strong man' follow up like
1. starting shit between hindus and muslims
2. starting shit with Kashmiri autonomy
3. Starting shit with China
4. starting shit with Bangladesh
5. Starting shit with Nepal
6. Starting shit with linguistic sensibilities of the regions via Hindi imposition
7. not too mention that the moron does nothing to address the poverty and rampant backward thinking in the country

the only thing I cannot blame him is the Pakistani mindfuck as Pakistan has truly been sheltering and training terrorists (and pass them off as Kashmiri 'resistance') and attacks happen routinely under whatever govt. Note that there IS a true Kashmiri resistance, but they mainly protest, have representatives with Kashmiri politicians elected in parliament etc etc. The actual terrorist attacks which occur are Pakistan-directed and are rejected by the majority of Kashmiris. The point is that Kashmiri want autonomy (and some even independence), but they definitely do not want to be annexed by Pakistan.

>>2384049
The Naxals do not have the support of even 5% of the population. Maybe not even 1%.

>>2384030
it is easy to shit on the CPI because they are not falling for left-adventurism.
The CPI has many flaws, but the CPI and CPI(M) remain two of the most viable parties to back as a socialist/communist/leftist in India.


>>2384173
>Try to not categorise whole ethnic/linguistic/religious groups as one political ideology.
I wasn't, I was just speaking from personal experience. I've never met a Sikh that wasn't left leaning and also a nice/chill person to hang out with. I was just wondering if they were known for this among Indians and if there was any particular reason for that.
>>2384049
I didn't say they don't count. I wish them the best of success, but I don't think India is anywhere close to a revolution.
>>2384470
>it is easy to shit on the CPI because they are not falling for left-adventurism
They failed a basic litmus test when they supported their fascist government's most recent war against Pakistan without even mentioning how the reactionary policies of the Modi regime in Kashmir were responsible for the violence.

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>>2384470
>left-adventurism
Kys you fascist bootlicking coward. The CPI (M) is a party of rapist defenders, great power chauvanists, and lapdogs of foriegn imperialism. They sit on their laurels while the real movement that changes things fight for the liberation of the masses. They are cowards and so is anyone who defends their complicity in the face of fascist violence.

>>2384588
My heart likes the Naxal movement but my brain understands it is an emotional anti-Marxist outburst and is indeed left-adventurism.

>>2384590
>My heart likes the Naxal movement but my brain
<Z fag
What brain?

>>2384470
CPI is zionist

>>2384049
>t. online gonzaloid.
You are a revisionist and dogmat averse to actual political organization like all other american online maoists and often only care about countries if they have political movements like in nepal and the naxals on india that exist to justify your infantile disorder, i know exactly one of you because you MLM gonzaloids are a copy of each other

>Indian elections

Any thing indicating results of it? is the INC really cucked and doomed to lose, i see liberals praising the indian "bourgeois democracy" when modi street thugs are well known by beating oppositors

>>2384612
>claims others are infantile
>cares about bourgeois elections of a state that is actively murdering its people through fascist violence
Ngmi.

>>2384590
The fact that it has had as much success as it has indicates that conditions are ripe for armed action among at least some segments of the Indian workers and peasantry. This should be of course combined with nonviolent direct action and even electoralism (especially in the cities) but I'm not sure whether the Naxals are active on such fronts.

so was the general strike successful?

>>2384625
>You are a bourgeois "electoralist"
Ignore the fact that yall defend mao-nixon collaboration, and helping UNITA and the taliban agaisnt the "soviet social imperialists"

>>2384649
>denies soviet social imperialism
>calls others revisionist
ngmi
>Mao armed the taliban
????, pretty sure Mao was dead by then

>>2384654
not Mao, but the maoists sided with the Taliban

>>2384654
>soviet social imperialism
all fucking bullshit, it never existed considered the opposition to soviet "imperialism" consisted of liberal reformists who seeked to restore capitalist rule, and casually ignore the fact that you fuckers criticized soviet "imperialism" while allying with US interests and proxies on africa and asia, consequentially doing more damage to socialism than the revisionist USSR even did, maoists are essentially the leftcoms of marxism leninism and this prove hoxha even right.

>>2384654
>social "imperialism"
>look inside
>Soviet "colonies" have higher living standards than their supposed colonizers
What did Maoists mean by this?

>>2384661
>all fucking bullshit,
No, it was a thing, to deny that shows complete ignorance of the time and of history. You say the opposition was liberal reform. That is a complete falsehood. During and after the Khruschev years, the USSR was the proponent of liberal reforms draped in red. Anti-imperialist in words but imperialist in deeds as they say. They made countries under thier wing completely dependent on trade with them, stymied thier growth and independence. This contradiction of sucking the surplus value of thier satellites would not last long (due to the inept and inefficient bureaucratic state capitalism that needed to change into actual free market capitalism even though it would mean a few decades of western imperialist plunder) and when the USSR imploded did all these satellites rise up and reform a socialist bloc or reinforce the faltering one with thier supposed independent power/development they got from the soviets? No, in fact they were completely weakened because they were dependent on the USSR and as recent history has shown, these old regimes have been collapsing under the pressure of the remaining imperialist powers (American and Western imperialism) while others have to bend to other rising imperialist powers (China and Russia). This is all at the expense of the workers of these nations. To denythe past decades of soviet social imperialism is as much a grave error as is denying western imperialism, even more so if one wants to educate others on socialism and Marxism let alone try to organize anything.

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>>2384681
>They made countries under thier wing completely dependent on trade with them, stymied thier growth and independence.

Is this even considered imperialism considering there was no private capital or bourgeoise on soviet union at time? there was socialist hegemonism but not imperialism, which is the main argument i am doing.
>China and russia as "imperialist"
i am yet to see the "imperialism" of those countries and all you fuckers pull about china is either that middle east eye article about chinese involvement on west bank settlements or some made up shit like "debt trap and colonial extraction in africa" which the latter is easily debunkable with the fact that china is investing on industrial capacity at african countries

About russia, there is many points that i criticize considering the war in ukraine and politics praticated by the vlasovites, but what russia is doing in ukraine is not imperialism but liberation btw and putin is a cuck for not taking this war seriously instead of coming with this stupid larp of "SMO"

>>2384662
tbf the cities and capitals in the asian "colonies" had significant and sometimes even majority russian/slavic populations, while the rural areas were mostly populated by natives, as a side effect of the fact that people had to come in from the more advanced areas of the union in order to help in the construction of the periphery

but you gotta admit it was a bit of a bad look

>>2384909
>but you gotta admit it was a bit of a bad look
I was talking about the smaller nations of the Warsaw Pact rather than the Soviet periphery, but even there the numbers don't lie when it comes to the massive increases in industrial output, literacy, urbanization, life expectancy, etc.

>>2384946
Ah, well that's easy, it's because those countries possess an inherent westernness that made them more civilized and developed despite russia's violent attempts at dragging them down to their level with communism

>>2384506

Is Kerala really communist? GIve me a quick rundown>>2384506

>>2385356
It is obviously not communist but it is ruled by the Communist Party since 20-30 years.
India has national government and state govt. Kerala is one of the 29 states, and while the Communist Party does badly nation-wide, it has a few states where it is strong (like Bengal and Kerala). Before 2014, the communists ruled Bengal for like 25+ years as well, but lost in 2014 and haven't recovered there yet. Kerala is the last bastion lol

>>2385785
So basically they didn't really do a good job

>>2386721
there's not much you can do when you have only state-level power and not national level power.

>>2385785
>>2384588
bengalanon here, the commie government ruled for 34 years and it rule ended back in 2010, when the lost by a landslide margin. CPIM, which may here thinks of as imperialistic, did surprisingly good things
>Operation Barga, which did land redistribution, many of poor folks got atleast some land of their own
>established heavy machinery, factories that gave jobs to people who guess what bought land and farmed.
>it also pardoned some maoist of naxal eras, one of them in my late grandfather
>established a good communal environment, even many muslims are largely swear by communist rule
>established a good panchayat system that provided good services
>established sectors and zones for IT hubs, textile markets and petrochemial refinery.

Was everything good? No.

>political violence was very much a reality(still is in bengal)

>ignored the problem of caste
>failed to update their policies, with changing neoliberal times
>shrinking proletariat, rise of lumpen bourgeois
>lack of jobs in neoliberal india
>lack of modernisation
>ever increasing opposition
>growth of right wing politics after 1992 demolition
>started to become corrupt
>lack of new faces, and never read critical theory just blabbered "workers rights" and shit
>rural vote base was shrinking

Result 2011, they lost bengal which was their fort, after that tripura and now only kerala remains.

>>2394026
>panchayat system
What is this?

>>2395044
sameanon

panchayat is a form localized system of government,
think municipality for villages, but much more wide ranging in their sectors of services, they even allocate funds to farmers, look into infrastructure and provide welfare.

>>2394026
>things it did good
<menshevism

>>2395293
t. American who has never accomplished anything for proles in his entire life

>>2395293
what do you have to say for yourself?

>India’s $96B to Russia: The Reason Ukraine Is Still at War?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wJO2I5Meuok
>After the Ukraine war began, Europe imposed tough sanctions on Russia — cutting down energy imports from $132 billion to just $24 billion.
>Experts believed Russia’s economy would collapse and the war would end quickly.

>But that didn’t happen.

>Why?Because India stepped in — increasing its oil and coal imports from Russia from $2 billion to an unbelievable $96 billion.
Stop hating on India leftypol they help Russian economy thrive.

>>2384176
Yes but communists would go against both Hindus and Muslims, so …

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>>2384007
>>2384049
>>2384588
>>2384594
>>2384625
>>2384654
>>2384681
Based Maoist Analysis Comrade Bloodgasm, I have always believed that the CPI (Maoist) is the Worlds most advanced Communist Party, and contrary to the Khrushchevite Social Fascist Revisionists at >>2384030 , >>2384470 , >>2384590 , and >>2384612 , the Naxalite Maoist PPW against the Fascist Hindu Nationalist Indian State has a clear pathway to victory once the inevitable World War III between the U$ and the PRC (India will be on the Pro-U$ side and Pakistan will be on the Pro-PRC side) escalates into a Global Nuclear War (including a Nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan which will collapse both Bourgeois Comprador Capitalist Fascist regimes, thus allowing for an easy Naxalite victory in their Maoist PPW against the Fascist Indian State, and a complete Maoist takeover of the Indian subcontinent which will grant Self-Determination/National Liberation to all the Oppressed Nations of South Asia by creating a Hindustani SFSR, Kashmiri SSR, Pashtun SSR, Punjabi SSR, Baloch SSR, Sindhi SSR, Gujarati SSR, Marathi SSR, Konkani SSR, Kannada SSR, Malayalam SSR, Tamil SSR, Sinhalese SSR, Talugu SSR, Odia SSR, Bengali SSR, Nepali SSR, Assamese SSR, Khasi SSR, Mizo SSR, Manipuri SSR, Ao SSR, and Nissi SSR which will all join the Global USSR shown in my Map) that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the map I posted, and I plan on posting an improved version of this Map in the near future, which will finally divide Sub-Saharan Africa into an appropriate number of SSRs based on its Ethno-Linguistic demographics, which I have been thoroughly researching over the last couple months) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, DOWN WITH LIBERALISM, REVISIONISM, AND FASCISM, DOWN WITH U$, EU, AND RUSSIAN IMPERIALISM, ZIONISM, AND CHINESE SOCIAL IMPERIALISM, DOWN WITH THE GLOBAL CAPITALIST-IMPERIALIST SYSTEM, LONG LIVE THE MAOIST PPWs IN INDIA, THE PHILIPPINES, TURKEY, AND PERU, LONG LIVE THE WORLD MAOIST PPW, LONG LIVE THE IMMORTAL SCIENCE OF MARXISM-LENINISM-MAOISM, THE HIGHEST STAGE OF MARXISM, WORKERS AND OPPRESSED NATIONS OF THE WORLD UNITE ON THE SHINING PATH TO COMMUNISM, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!



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