Monarchist group associated with "Tsarebozhnie" creates an anti-Lenin documentary, calls for burial of Lenin in Russia (picrel)
What are they doing? And in the middle of SMO like that? Are they hoping that the west will destabilise the country and cause a civil war so they are preparing their proponents to attempt a takeover?
>>2381466They should stop being so dramatic. Putin already made it clear that Lenin will not be buried, let alone the mausoleum destroyed.
This is a small sect of "tsarebozhniye" and to be honest, they are hurting the movement of people trying to bury Lenin.
>>2381487There are actual liberals in this you know. In 2008 40% of people wanted Lenin burried. Now with tsareboznyke retards involved, I bet it is 20% at most.
They destroy everything they touch
>>2381573Typical liberal cuckoldry of Putin.
>>2381574they won't burry Lenin next to his mother, they will probably throw his corpse in a ditch somewhere.
>>2381573Lenin is only unpopular with Gen X and early millenials.
Russians who grew in Putin's education system (!!) tend to be much more positive towards Lenin than those who grew under Yeltsin.
>>2381326>Putin even praised Lenin on several occasionslmao
Literally when did the biggest Solzheitsyn fan in Russia do that?
>>2381661That's a pretty weird article
It doesn't quote any sources and it's a shitty translation ("Russian newspaper The Independent", "Russian newspaper The Point" - what? The first one might be Nezavisimaya Gazeta, the other one - I don't know)
>>2381661>Does this dude even believe anythingHe doesn't. During his career he called himself a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist. He doesn't stand for anything, except for staying in Kremlin as long as possible.
>>2383579No, tsarists have been losing plenty. For example with the death of Boris Berezovsky whose channel ran pro-Romanov content daily.
They lost when Patriarch Kiril called the tsarebozniye movement heretics. They lost when Putin called Nicholas the bloody and said that the values of Russian Federation are nothing like the monarchy.
Ever since Yeltsin went away they were basically losing more or less.
>>2381657I love how your "proof" of Putin praising Lenin is in an article about an argument incited by him blaming Lenin and Leninist principles for the collapse of the USSR. The quote you use is the only even vaguely positive thing Putin is cited as saying about Lenin in the whole damn article! From your article:
>Putin said that Lenin’s ideas led to the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union and they planted an atomic bomb under the building that was called Russia, which later exploded.>[Lenin] contended that [the Soviet Republics] should enjoy equal rights and have the right to withdraw from the Soviet Union. It was this idea that Putin thought was wrong. Also, he criticized Lenin’s ideas of cultural and national autonomy. He argued all these factors as well as ineffective economic and social policies were the “atomic bomb” that slowly detonated.>He condemned the repressive measures the Bolshevik Party used during the October Revolution (1917), such as the execution of the tsar’s family and the killing of thousands of the clergy in the civil war.Real clear Lenin enjoyer over here. The man openly spits in the face of Lenin's principles and any positive feelings he holds towards the Socialist era is only insofar as it emboldens Russian great-nation Chauvinism.
That being said, I get why you cited this, cause the article is also (hilariously) bending over backwards to somehow twist these words into anything even remotely defensible from a socialist perspective. The argument that Putin's statements aren't indicative of an anti-Lenin stance because he "did not comment on all of Lenin’s thoughts" is downright juvenile. Guess we can't confirm whether Ronald Reagan was really anti-Lenin either, since he also never commented on
all of Lenin's thoughts. Lefties better stop slandering that based anti-imperialist too! Give me a break. Putin isn't even taking a Second Internationalist stance here, this is just pure bourgeois nationalism and rewriting history to justify the Russian Federation's existence and legal position as the USSR's successor. That the CASS has vapid know-nothing "analysis" like this published on its website is downright damning of it too. Reminds me of the line from Lenin:
>We must not gloss over or confuse by “official optimistic” phrases the undoubted disease of the German Party which is manifesting itself in phenomena of this kind, we must expose it…>>2381348>Russians support PutinI love when the mask comes off for a second and folks just spit out an outright social fascist take to justify this shit. Tell me, which of these lines come from Lenin?
>The great bulk of the five and a half million Socialists and Socialist voters… spontaneously and simultaneously rallied to the support of their countries as soon as war had been declared…. It was not a decision, not a policy — it was history, and history cannot be scolded or praised; it must be understood.>We are face to face with destiny. The consequences of imperialist policies, which ushered in the age of the arms race and intensified discord between the nations, are crashing over Europe like a tidal wave…. Now we face the inexorable fact of war. We are threatened by the terrors of enemy invasion. It is not for or against war we are deciding today; rather we must decide on the means necessary for the defense of our country…. A victory of… despotism, stained with the blood of the best among its own people, would put much – indeed, everything – at stake for our nation and its future development toward liberty.>But since fate has overtaken us and overcome us, the proletariat in all countries, which formerly did its international duty, now does its duty as sons of its people, who risk everything in order that the people shall not be conquered, in order that its soil will not be delivered to the horrors of a defeat. We all suffer wrong; we all do right to protect ourselves against it…>I do not see how, in thus discussing [the question of war], one can leave it altogether out of consideration who provoked, or who bears the guilt of the general world catastrophe; who directly and intentionally conspired to bring it about, and thereby placed all the countries against whom the warlike attack was directed under the necessity of making a life and death matter of the defense of their independence…>There is not a single word in the Basle Manifesto about the defence of the fatherland, or about the difference between a war of aggression and a war of defence… the Manifesto very clearly recognises the predatory, imperialist, reactionary, slave-driving character of the present war, i.e., a character which makes the idea of "defending the fatherland" theoretical nonsense and a practical absurdity.>To seize land and to conquer foreign nations, to ruin a competing nation and to pillage her wealth, to divert the attention of the toiling masses from the internal political crises of [imperialist countries] and other countries, to disunite the workers and fool them with nationalism, to exterminate their vanguard in order to weaken the revolutionary movement of the proletariat — such is the only real content, the significance and the meaning of the present war. Unique IPs: 38