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Monarchist group associated with "Tsarebozhnie" creates an anti-Lenin documentary, calls for burial of Lenin in Russia (picrel)

What are they doing? And in the middle of SMO like that? Are they hoping that the west will destabilise the country and cause a civil war so they are preparing their proponents to attempt a takeover?

Bourgois Russian history says that Lenin was German Jewish agent sent in to destroy Russia forever but then was saved by BASED Stalin from forever being destroyed by the Jewry. So, there is no contradiction from denigrating Lenin while praising Stalin despite there being a hundred contradictions.

>>2381323
No, that is not what history books say. Putin even praised Lenin on several occasions

Being butthurt about Lenin specifically is a classic Russian tsarist bugbear

Contrary to what many of you guys may wish, Russia is not a second USSR but is actually just a neoliberal country that doesn't hide how authoritarian it is. You're allowed to have any opinion you like in Russia as long as you don't criticize the state.

>>2381343
>neoliberal country that doesn't hide how authoritarian it is

Russians support Putin, though, at least in this war. How can it be authoritarian if it's plenty democratic?

Russia is a liberal democracy

>>2381352
Sure but nobody likes it that way. You have communists and monarchists but liberals are severely lacking in all spheres of society except the people who actually rule.

>>2381352
It's not even a bourgeois democracy because Yeltsin killed any desire for it.

>>2381323
yeah you always see this with russian right wingers, seeing lenin as some outside figure who brought instability and chaos to russia, but that's completely ignoring history. the kerensky offensive disaster and the july crisis? the hyperinflation and all that tsarist debt? it's like these people memoryholed ww1 to october

Cucktin trying to speedrun pissing off all his friends. Belarusian Communists say that they'll demand Lenin's body be moved to Minsk to protect him and also pointed out that Chinese social media is also pissed at Cucktin allowing anti-Soviet propagandists to make movies.

>>2381466
They should stop being so dramatic. Putin already made it clear that Lenin will not be buried, let alone the mausoleum destroyed.
This is a small sect of "tsarebozhniye" and to be honest, they are hurting the movement of people trying to bury Lenin.

>>2381483
>they are hurting the movement of people trying to bury Lenin
>movement
Tsarist Cuck detected.

>>2381487
There are actual liberals in this you know. In 2008 40% of people wanted Lenin burried. Now with tsareboznyke retards involved, I bet it is 20% at most.
They destroy everything they touch

>>2381499
I thought they all fled to Georgia and then Europe at the start of the Special Retarded Operation.

>>2381487
>>2381504
And Lenin's wife himself wanted Lenin to be burried as his last wish. The Mausoleum wasn't Lenin's decision. But now it will never happen because everyone advocating for what Lenin always wanted will look like an archaic Tsarist with a long beard

Aren't these the guys who think Tsar Nicholas was literally an incarnation of Jesus Christ or something? Or at the very least that he "died for our sins"

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>>2381323
>Bourgois Russian history
there is no bourgeoisie in russia

>>2381348
Americans support Trump though, at least in this war. How can it be authoritarian if it's plenty democratic?

bury lenin before I get a chance to look into his face and there will be murders

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These faggots were already trying this in 2024 and got shut down. New year, new attempt. It is the same people from "spas"

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>>2381564
>Cucktin hoping the Soviet Boomers will die out so he can remove Lenin
GOD I HATE THIS FUCKING CUCK

>>2381313
>Bury Lenin
Rare Tsarist W. The mausoleum is a creepy as hell monument to Soviet cults of personality and Lenin should be buried next to his mother like he asked to in his will.

>>2381573
Typical liberal cuckoldry of Putin.
>>2381574
they won't burry Lenin next to his mother, they will probably throw his corpse in a ditch somewhere.

>>2381506
>Lenin's wife
IRRELEVANT. THE NEEDS OF THE COLLECTIVE OVERRIDE ANY INDIVIDUAL'S WILL. STALIN MADE THE CORRECT CHOICE.

Chinese will reanimate Lenin

>>2381573
Lenin is only unpopular with Gen X and early millenials.
Russians who grew in Putin's education system (!!) tend to be much more positive towards Lenin than those who grew under Yeltsin.

>>2381326
>Putin even praised Lenin on several occasions
lmao

Literally when did the biggest Solzheitsyn fan in Russia do that?

>>2381650
http://casseng.cssn.cn/news_events/news_events_special_report/201712/t20171221_3788180.html
>the importance of Lenin is underscored by the fact that the revolution he lead was a "great revolution"


>>2381661
>12 years ago

>>2381661
That's a pretty weird article

It doesn't quote any sources and it's a shitty translation ("Russian newspaper The Independent", "Russian newspaper The Point" - what? The first one might be Nezavisimaya Gazeta, the other one - I don't know)

>>2381661
>Does this dude even believe anything
He doesn't. During his career he called himself a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist. He doesn't stand for anything, except for staying in Kremlin as long as possible.

>>2381557
And what do you want to say here? Americans do indeed chose Trump.

>>2381798
He does look like a personified American. The only thing missing is transgender rights

>>2381466
>Lenin is founder of belarusian statehood
Why did ukrainians not learn from belarus? Why the hell are my people such imbeciles. Now there will no longer be ukraine because of these raguls.

>>2381573
GenX are the most anti-communist generation of the eastern block. They grew up their sentient lives in the 80s when the economy was going to shit and was replaced by gorbachev and then yeltsin. It's like burgers that grew up post-2008 will have a dislike for america. Sad thing is most of these fucks are the backbone of the entrepreneurial sector so, getting rid of them would necessitate a legit communist revolution.

>>2383380
exactly, they see gorbys reforms as "communism"

Honestly, Lenin's body should be buried. Marx was buried, Engels was buried, like normal famous people. Marx has a huge tombstone but that's it, and he deserved it.
Meanwhile the situation of Lenin is like an animal who got hunted and the hunter went to the taxidermist to keep him intact. I don't even imagine the cost of maintenance. If I ever visit Russia, I want to see it, but it will be like looking at something silly humans do because they are completely insane and can't get rid of their religious feelings even when they pretend they don't have any.

>>2383429
I agree but at the same time I don't want tsarists to win.

>>2383516
Yeah it's a catch 22 situation, but keep in mind tsarists have been winning since the fall of the USSR and the elections of Yelstin and Putin. Now squat, drink your vodka and eat your dried fish like everyone else.

>>2383579
No, tsarists have been losing plenty. For example with the death of Boris Berezovsky whose channel ran pro-Romanov content daily.
They lost when Patriarch Kiril called the tsarebozniye movement heretics. They lost when Putin called Nicholas the bloody and said that the values of Russian Federation are nothing like the monarchy.
Ever since Yeltsin went away they were basically losing more or less.

>>2383581
Ok I wasn't aware of it, but this is good. I don't think the present Russian state will want to move Lenin's corpse anywhere too far away from the Red Square and Kremlin, they have too much tourist money to lose, even with the Western sanctions. It seems to be a nothingburger honestly, fascists get their panties in a twist for symbolic stuff like this in most European countries, they end up beating up some random people, then go back to their house and forget about it next week while all our governments sell weapons to Israel.

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>>2383374
>Why did ukrainians not learn from belarus? Why the hell are my people such imbeciles. Now there will no longer be ukraine because of these raguls.
Some of your people are not retarded. Not all those who wander are lost.

>>2383429
engels had his ashes spread on cliffs overlooking the sea that he liked

>>2383656
comrade president!

>>2383656
awww. that was so nice. he was so nervous not to fuck it up lol.

>>2383656
why does he have a PPSh? is this a Victory Day thing?

>>2381657
I love how your "proof" of Putin praising Lenin is in an article about an argument incited by him blaming Lenin and Leninist principles for the collapse of the USSR. The quote you use is the only even vaguely positive thing Putin is cited as saying about Lenin in the whole damn article! From your article:
>Putin said that Lenin’s ideas led to the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Union and they planted an atomic bomb under the building that was called Russia, which later exploded.
>[Lenin] contended that [the Soviet Republics] should enjoy equal rights and have the right to withdraw from the Soviet Union. It was this idea that Putin thought was wrong. Also, he criticized Lenin’s ideas of cultural and national autonomy. He argued all these factors as well as ineffective economic and social policies were the “atomic bomb” that slowly detonated.
>He condemned the repressive measures the Bolshevik Party used during the October Revolution (1917), such as the execution of the tsar’s family and the killing of thousands of the clergy in the civil war.
Real clear Lenin enjoyer over here. The man openly spits in the face of Lenin's principles and any positive feelings he holds towards the Socialist era is only insofar as it emboldens Russian great-nation Chauvinism.

That being said, I get why you cited this, cause the article is also (hilariously) bending over backwards to somehow twist these words into anything even remotely defensible from a socialist perspective. The argument that Putin's statements aren't indicative of an anti-Lenin stance because he "did not comment on all of Lenin’s thoughts" is downright juvenile. Guess we can't confirm whether Ronald Reagan was really anti-Lenin either, since he also never commented on all of Lenin's thoughts. Lefties better stop slandering that based anti-imperialist too! Give me a break. Putin isn't even taking a Second Internationalist stance here, this is just pure bourgeois nationalism and rewriting history to justify the Russian Federation's existence and legal position as the USSR's successor. That the CASS has vapid know-nothing "analysis" like this published on its website is downright damning of it too. Reminds me of the line from Lenin:
>We must not gloss over or confuse by “official optimistic” phrases the undoubted disease of the German Party which is manifesting itself in phenomena of this kind, we must expose it…

>>2381348
>Russians support Putin
I love when the mask comes off for a second and folks just spit out an outright social fascist take to justify this shit. Tell me, which of these lines come from Lenin?
>The great bulk of the five and a half million Socialists and Socialist voters… spontaneously and simultaneously rallied to the support of their countries as soon as war had been declared…. It was not a decision, not a policy — it was history, and history cannot be scolded or praised; it must be understood.
>We are face to face with destiny. The consequences of imperialist policies, which ushered in the age of the arms race and intensified discord between the nations, are crashing over Europe like a tidal wave…. Now we face the inexorable fact of war. We are threatened by the terrors of enemy invasion. It is not for or against war we are deciding today; rather we must decide on the means necessary for the defense of our country…. A victory of… despotism, stained with the blood of the best among its own people, would put much – indeed, everything – at stake for our nation and its future development toward liberty.
>But since fate has overtaken us and overcome us, the proletariat in all countries, which formerly did its international duty, now does its duty as sons of its people, who risk everything in order that the people shall not be conquered, in order that its soil will not be delivered to the horrors of a defeat. We all suffer wrong; we all do right to protect ourselves against it…
>I do not see how, in thus discussing [the question of war], one can leave it altogether out of consideration who provoked, or who bears the guilt of the general world catastrophe; who directly and intentionally conspired to bring it about, and thereby placed all the countries against whom the warlike attack was directed under the necessity of making a life and death matter of the defense of their independence…
>There is not a single word in the Basle Manifesto about the defence of the fatherland, or about the difference between a war of aggression and a war of defence… the Manifesto very clearly recognises the predatory, imperialist, reactionary, slave-driving character of the present war, i.e., a character which makes the idea of "defending the fatherland" theoretical nonsense and a practical absurdity.
>To seize land and to conquer foreign nations, to ruin a competing nation and to pillage her wealth, to divert the attention of the toiling masses from the internal political crises of [imperialist countries] and other countries, to disunite the workers and fool them with nationalism, to exterminate their vanguard in order to weaken the revolutionary movement of the proletariat — such is the only real content, the significance and the meaning of the present war.

>>2381578
>THE NEEDS OF THE COLLECTIVE OVERRIDE ANY INDIVIDUAL'S WILL
Populism isn't socialism.

>>2381313
>Insert ANY checka meme

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>>2381313
>What are they doing? And in the middle of SMO like that?
"You really think somebody would do that, be anti-communist while we're invading Ukraine?"

>>2381313
>Lenin committed the monstrous crime of crashing the world's most powerful nation
There's no way ziggers are this delusional

>>2381313
Unironically bury Lenin

>>2386976
socialism is a form of populism thoughbeit

>>2386604
Commemoration of Minsk being liberated from the Nazis.

>>2386971
Bruh this is Chinese state university. They know their stuff

>>2388236
At the very least the person who wrote this certainly doesn't "know their stuff". Since when do communists use appeals to authority like this? Read and grasp the content as a Marxist, no source is beyond reproach or criticism. There isn't a single advancement in Marxism that was won without political struggle.

>>2388589
You just don't get it.

Lenin should be buried but only when the entire global population lives under communism. It would be a symbolic and glorious last farewell.

>>2388236
>Bruh this is Chinese state university. They know their stuff
>the article doesn't quote any sources
lmfao

>>2392835
Why are you even here if you can't trust a socialist country

>this thread
You all laughed at me when I said they'd go for Lenin's corpse.
restore my flag, btw

>>2395208
So what now?


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