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Not reporting is bourgeois


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What's fiction piece of work actually show a genuine well working socialist-communist society that isn't portrayed as a dystopian hellhole, the only fiction one that I can remember is the Federation from Star Trek that even their wiki straight up says that the Federation is a socialist society where money was abolished, and people actually work for their self pleasure and development, beside the Federation, there's any other examples of a well thought fictional communist society?

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the combine from half-life 2

>>2382130
What? Isn't Combine a actually just inter dimensional facist?

not really for obvious reasons,it's actually hard to actually write something interesting about it,that's why star trek doesn't actually show the society itself but how it interact with others (also people on this board would unironically say "socialism in one planet/system is revisionist !" if aliens existed)

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>>2382132
they abolished private property, currency, class, nations, the family, religion, and replaced the state with an administration of things (advisors) instituted rehabilitative justice (stalkers) they're communist absolutely. the only fascists in the setting are the reactionary humans who falsely equate evolution with genocide to justify their indulgence in primitive impulses.

>>2382173
>>2382173
What about The Culture books series? People say is a full blow post scarcity commie society

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>>2382130
>>2382178
based and Breenpilled

>>2382180
I like those books and yeah. It's the most attractive vision of communism I've read in fiction (although they don't call it that, but it's clearly a super-futuristic and galaxy-spanning version of it). It has gone beyond a planned economy as they've been practiced in real life. It's really truly a place where individuals can design their own continents. There's more than enough room and resources to do that. What people are capable of doing is limited only by manners, imagination, and taste. Nothing and nobody is exploited and human labor is essentially a hobby.

>>2382173
Stories are usually about conflict (man vs. nature, man vs. society, man vs. man). It's hard to do that in a society that has mastered nature and doesn't have social conflict. So in Star Trek, the crew of the ship interacting with aliens or weird and threatening entities and phenomena is the narrative machinery to tell stories.

The Culture books do this too. One of the principle problems that people have is boredom and a tendency towards decadence and how they deal with that when the religious fundamentalist aliens show up and start blowing up their orbitals. When you blow up a Culture ship, you actually kill a sentient A.I. that is powering it.

I suppose Fire on the Mountain by Terry Bisson would count even though he's vague about the workings of the society formed after the revolutionary New Africa formed from a slave revolt was eventually able to defeat the remnant of America

I bet once world communism is established, it will be seen as quite a mundane thing: well of course we'd rationally plan our labor as a species, duh. It's just more efficient.
The world historical struggle of our times will result in a state of affairs as mundane and prosaic as the wotldwide adoption of arabic numerals.

And people then will be concerned with some other kinda conflict. Hell, maybe wars will still exist. After all, today countries go to war while continuing to trade with each other, what's to say entities under the same planned economy won't find a reason to engage in violent conflict?

>>2382119
Probably works by Ursula LeGuin
>>2382173
The most interesting stories about communist societies would be ones that tackle the actual crises of the 21st Century bourgeois society is apt to ignore
The first task of the communists, upon the destruction of Capital and the bourgeois state, will be the restoration of the Earth to biological habitability, it will likely be an arduous task lasting over a century if not longer, this can be fertile grounds for storytelling but to tell such stories bourgeois culture would need to center collective solidarity over individual struggle and the battle between Man and Nature over the battle between Man and Man and frame that “battle” more as a struggle by Man to save that which once opposed him as an Alien Force to be dominated

Bumping

>>2382287
i remember making that post, thats nice someone screenshot my formatting a breen speech into greentext

>>2383533
it is truly inspiring

>>2382119
i never got the impression the federation was socialist. i thought it was just imperialist usa: space version

>>2383634
lol, no, the Federation is more like a actual functional socialistic UN, there's no money and people have their needs met, in universe is called "new world economy" that is just I think straight up communism


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