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Economic conditions of the modern world are making it increasingly difficult for people to produce children. Men struggle to find wives. Those that do then find it difficult to sustain a family on a single wage, resulting in both parents having to work, resulting in less children. This is not a cultural/economic issue restricted to the Western world, as some claim, but a global issue of urbanised post-industrial societies. Both economic incentive programs and reactionary cultural movements attempting to bring back the traditional family have failed to significantly raise birthrates (see Korea, Russia, Hungary, China, etc.). Western states have attempted to use their comparatively higher wages to attract foreign workforce thus putting a bandaid over this issue but this solution has in turn caused many more problems, mainly due to cultural friction between the imported foreigners and natives. We can thus say that no solution to the depopulation crisis, that is both satisfactory and effective, currently exists.

But there is a solution that may soon become available.

A state could in theory move the responsibility of producing future generations directly onto itself, thus taking the burden away from the individual and putting it onto the collective.

How could this be done? In 2025 Japan unveiled the first artificial womb capable of sustaining mammalian life without a mother’s body. Full ectogenesis is already outside the realm of science-fiction and it will move to humans. It may very well become economically feasible for a state to mass produce human beings from donor genetic material. Combine this with state-funded child rearing and you have the recipe for a nation that can fully control its own population growth and adapt it to social, economic or geopolitical considerations so that it may at any time be exactly what it requires. A state that has no need for immigration. Furthermore production would be subsidiary to natural population growth, so if in a year the birthrate went up or down the government can then adapt artificial production to compensate.

The hurdles with implementing such a system are great, both because of ethical concerns certain sections of the population may raise and because such a system would take at least two to three decades after implementation to start bearing fruit and would be initially costly but if a state is able to achieve this feat the advantages it would have over its competitors would be immense.

Just ban internet after 21:00. Problem werent.

>another birth rates thread
dumb shit only the petit bourgeois care about lol

but i dont care if people have kids…

>>2386416
The Hungarian Soviet Republic literally proposed something along this line in 1919

>>2386419
How is the revolutionary state going to defend itself from capitalist aggression if it does not have bodies to throw into the fight?

>>2386440
>The Hungarian Soviet Republic
lmfao is that your best argument

>>2386448
that's easy,you throw the politicians who were for the war on the front line

>>2386448
what? there are more of us than there are of them.

>>2386492
That's not what happened when the first communist states appeared. They were immensely outnumbered.

>>2386506
they were more like outgunned and outpowered

>>2386448
indeed, we should let capitalist states have this first, so they can in fact directly control human life entirely for the first decade of existence, possibly even banning people from reproducing normally. That way they have total control over population dynamics.

Then we can seize the means and turn it against them!

>>2386509
Also outnumbered. Look at Hungary. Compare the population of the USSR with the capitalist world in the interbellum.

>>2386448
If there's not enough people willing to have kids in your society then it must be dog shit and who cares if it gets overthrown

>>2386519
Oh so you think China needs to kys itself then, got it!

>>2386520
Is China at risk of being invaded for lack of manpower now?

>>2386524
It is facing economic slowdown due to its aging population.

>>2386416
>only petty booj care about birth rates
birth rates are essential to any analysis of the capitalist mode of production, since it goes without saying that for the capitalist to grow production AND consumption, they must grow the population. for the working class must not merely replace itself, but grow, to attend to a larger and larger available means of production. Also capital seeks a reserve army of underemployed to depress wages and enlist in the event of mass strikes. With slow growth or decrease in population, there is decrease in the stock of available labor power, which is the unique commodity capable of yielding surplus value through its use. This is why communists have discussed things such as subsidizing motherhood in socialist republics, while carrying out birth strikes in capitalist societies. It's also a huge crisis in the making for the future of capitalism in the imperial core that the average mother in the imperial core countries gives birth to fewer than 2 children.

>>2386209
Childbirth is the least problematic or expensive part of reproduction in the Marxist sense. Reproduction refers to all the work that has to be put in to create a fully-formed properly educated and culturally attuned person of this or that class. The sheer amounts of money required to do that on an industrial scale are beyond enormous, especially if the state can barely maintain its electric grid.
The state could always suggest that people have children only to immediately turn them over to foster care instead of having abortions, they also have a whole population that doesn't have rights in prisons anyway.

>>2386559
That money exists already within society? It just needs to be seized.

>>2386564
The ruling class has objections. You are not doing it if the ruling class doesn't want it, period. It's their state.

>>2386564
>waow like just seez the society XD
stunning and uniquely useful analysis

>SEIZE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION
taking retarded sloganeering to a whole new level

ONE MAN
ONE WIFE

>a state
Surely you mean The State (international)


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