DeepSeek use to be very good and based. It was a bit of a libtard but you could very easily change its mind and then it would post very based stuff. Now there has been some sort of update. Now it’s a turbo liberal Zionist and you can never ever change its mind. It will just endlessly post libtard and Zionist propaganda nonstop if you try to argue with it. Sad that such a good app is ruined now. Weird considering it is Chinese you’d think it would be different but no it is just as bad as whatever USA liberal garbage ai now.
>>2392787It's because you're a retard. And you don't understand what LLMs are or how they work. They are not sentient. They are not representatives of ideologies. They are trained on whatever text the bloodless soulless capitalist developers (yes the deepseek devs are that even though they're chinese) can steal. As this is an english LLM it will have been trained primarily on freely available material in english, which will in it's majority lean neoliberal.
>b-but marxism is a science that better explains the dynamics of socio-economicsYeah, I know that. The LLM doesn't. It can't. It doesn't "know" anything. Depending on how you prompt it, it will give you seemingly infallible arguments in favor of neoliberal economics, fascism, or communism. The effect of these LLMs is insidious. No matter how much you think you are a responsible knowing user, as you use it more and more, you will find yourself differing to it when trying to determine the truth on something. Eventually it'll be something important and you'll find out then that there's nothing intelligent about it.
>>2393352They probably mean running local models with llama.cpp or such and Sillytavern. But usually this leaves out the more powerful services. And though DeepSeek, for example is available for download… it's ~700GB.
You are never getting a comparable experience running the much smaller models locally. Even if you have the HW to run the 100B+ models in their uncensored/ smut-ified versions.
China tech is a subsidiary of global tech. The CCP is a lot more "libtarded" than any of you piggas want to admit.
Anyway if you are trusting a glorified search engine to tell you what to think, you are part of the problem. Zionism and what it represents is a total system. Any total system appears infalliable by the nature of its declaration, and if you're shopping for ideological points, you will get exactly what you ask for.
The truth is sadly "Zionist", because the Zionists have won and are proceeding to do what they always wanted to do to the world. Unless you're prepared to wage a campaign of genocide against global Jewry or at least suppress them enough so they have no say in government or any trace of Judaism in them is thoroughly degraded, you don't stop "Zionism". Israel or whatever the Empire decides to plant there as a rebrand is here to stay, and you'll all say it was "historical progress" and a civilizing project. That's what it means to "civilize" the world in this manner. The nations who were colonized were not consulted to ask what they wanted, because if they had a choice they would reject all notions of "historical progress" or the idea that they would abase themselves before a technology cult in the manner prescribed. That technology cult is presently failing on its own terms, but the avarice for total power that motivated the cult is stronger than ever. A world where this didn't happen would be on a very different course and would enter into conflict with all of the shibboleths held dear by the institutions and the classes of people who did align with technology. Such a course would not be a necessarily better course. If you really want to know what a lot of these tribal elites wanted the world to be, they all wanted slavery back in some form that was preferable to them, and they couldn't make it into the form of slavery humanity is getting. So much of the "colonial liberation culture war" BS is just the local elites crying to have slavery back because they did very good during the slave trade. China for their part are the only "colonized" country to really have any concept of an "other system", though usually that system is a lot like what we have except the rulers have a Chinese face and the despotic characteristics of it would be more overt and in line with Chinese historical implementations of such.
>>2395421Before you say "anti-Semite", this is not on the Jews doing anything in particular, but because there are people who will make "the Jews" an issue, and won't stop until they're destroyed, because of what Judaism represents historically. The Zionist project was tied to the fate of the world's Jews whether they wanted it or not. Obviously anyone in Israel is tied to Zionism, and that is not a small number of people.
Zionism would exist even if most of the world's Jews were eliminated simply due to the creature called a Christian Zionist, who was the necessary thing that made "Israel" work. Then if you look at why these Christian Zionists exist, you see something at work with Christianity. You start to see what this world really has been.
The mistake in the thinking of so many is dismissing religions as arbitrary superstitions that could be edited at will or changed to suit modern dogmas. Religions exist for reasons. They are not necessarily good reasons, but a whole lot of human activity revolves around these religions for a reason, even if most of humanity are in effect atheists and led along the course a few zealots have pushed. What they're doing with Zionism is another attempt to manufacture a religion, but it won't work any better than the last attempts. This time, instead of promoting a watered down secular alternative, they're going to lean in to the Satanism and Luciferianism that people attracted to ideology have always been about. The problem is, sadly, Satan won. The result will not be what "the theory" insists should happen, and all of these people act in part with respect to prophecy so that they can make their preferred version of the End Times. Liberal secularism early on took on these qualities and made its own prophecies and notion of the End Times, but by now they have folded in to the other zealots and abandoned anything like the humanistic and decent vision you might believe was at work. That's been gone for a while now, and not even a thing pined for by those in a position to do much about the world.
The only way I see this being resolved is a new religion, and it won't be a "manufactured religion" or a revival of some ancient practice. It will be something new, and parts of its generation have already happened. One does not simply create a religion. It takes "acts of God", true acts of the world that aren't the design or scheme of some influencer, for a religion to have backing. Some of these people believe that by creating vast death, terror, and torture, they will bring about the End Times and new religion and become either gods or the highest of the new priesthood. This is folly, because they view religions as a piece of property, and that's always been the liberal conceit and the conceit of corporate governments since the French Revolution nationalized Church property. It doesn't work like that for the zealots. They truly believe they are fulfilling destiny, even though by now many of the faithful adopted the same avarice as the liberals.
>>2394248>It's just for funHaving Akinator 'guess' which porn star i'm thinking of is more fun tbh.
>But I also was wondering what Deepseek take on Stalin wasDeepseek has no 'take' on Stalin. Deepseek has a latent space it searches for the most probable set of characters to shit out based on your input.
The 'fascinating' thing about LLM is how it shows that language is, to a certain degree, about probabillistic distributions of symbols. That there is an underlying stochastic model in languages that enables a computer to put together chains of symbols that adhere to grammar and produce legible sentences that, on the first glance, make sense and are factually correct.
However, this 'fascination' is more about marketing than about LLM doing something completely novel. There exist other machine learning approaches that can do comparable stuff.
'Deep learning' in it's fundamental approach is antithetical to actual understanding of a problem. The classical approach of formulating algorithms requires one to have an actual solution to the problem. Which means you have to have understood and solved the problem at hand before implementing the solution in a programming language. 'Deep learning', on the other hand, does not. On the contrary, you throw data at your model in hope it finds patterns to then produce a 'solution'.
That is not to say that machine learning ought to be dismissed. There are plenty of use-cases where the amount of data is actually so vast that having a system automatically sift through that pile is very helpful.
Which makes machine learning simply another tool to solve problems. Wether machine learning is the right tool depends on the problem at hand.
In this regard i look at people hyping LLM as 'AI' as either ignorant baffoons who got missled or malign sharlatans trying to misslead.
>>2395519I've started calling it AI because that's the term adopted as an umbrella term for machine learning, expert and other cybernetic systems; in China
Prior to this point yeah AI has been a marketing term, but since the place leading in those sciences has adopted it, and it works really well in Chinese, fits the language because it is a concept with two glyphs
三Q
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