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If USSR comitted Katyn, and Nuremberg decided not to say anything about it, like Katyn cultists claim,
why is it then that Soviet Burdenko commission was submitted to Nuremberg as a proof, and Nazi commission results under the name of "Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn", despite getting submitted, was declined by Nuremberg after a review, which claimed that:

>In any case, we believe that we have shown enough gaps, errors and inaccuracies to be able to recognize the statements made by the Germans in the publication "Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn" as material that does not withstand accurate scientific criticism, and thus recognize it as having too much propaganda character. In making this conclusion, we used only precise substantive reasoning.


Funny, right?

Oh, and as a bonus, Mednoye, which is often presented as a proof that Soviets were killing people in places other than those which were later occupied by Germans during the war, as it turns out, was actually occupied during the war, and 2nd pic is an order to recapture the settlement from Germans

Also also, check out present day Russia historiography on the issue. https://noo-journal.ru/vak/2025-1-42/kornilova-otritsanie-soobshcheniya-komissii-burdenko-v-katynskom-dele/ They call shit that happened in Russia in 1990s in regards to Katyn "Burdenko commission denialism"!

We know that Katyn was done by the Nazis. You're preaching to the choir.
The only issue I have is Goebells never admitted to Katyn. Instead he was sad that German bullets were found there.

Good post. Here's another thread similar in nature about the so called occupation of Baltics >>2288225

No retard the soviets did katyn and it was a good thing

File: 1752786216611.jpg (48.63 KB, 1080x1018, didn't happen.jpg)

ahem

Katyn was the greatest accomplishment of German history

>>2393074
Hitler liquidated the Austrian fascist regime, Polish fascist regime, and Ukrainian fascist regime…. holy anti-fascism….

>>2393080
the true authentic revolutionary

Except the Katyn isn't proof of that concept that it happened during the time period here.

I always think it's interesting that poles will bring up Katyn, but I never see them talk about the Ukrainian nationalists who did much worse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

>>2393134
They did, though? They've passed a law about it. Zelensky has uttered "but I didn't know about Volhynia", lmao, just like Israel said the same in regards to Ukrainian nationalists killing Jews when Russians asked Israeli envoy about Israel's support of Ukraine

>>2393134
>but I never see them talk about the Ukrainian nationalists who did much worse
Nearly half their war movies are about it

>>2393134
I mean this is ww2, executing a bunch of officers and cops ranks pretty low in terms of atrocity

what turns on whether or not the ussr committed katyn?

>>2393547
The Soviet narrative that the M-R Pact did not cooperate with Germany to antagonize Poland, since the Poles didn't declare war on the Soviets, would crumble since even if the Polish state essentially let the Red Army march in they were still massacred by the NKVD. Thus the Soviets would indeed be said to have took advantage of Poland being gutted by Nazi Germany for their own conquest, rather than only marching in after the Polish state collapsed to prevent further Nazi encroachment on the remaining Polish territory.

>>2392800
That's not really hard proof that the Soviet Union wasn't responsible. Yeah, the Nazi Katyn Commission was shoddy, but the Burdenko report being allowed as evidence doesn't mean a whole lot, since the Nuremberg trials were a tribunal that involved the Soviet Union, so the others had to nod along at this minor evidence that was also kind of shoddy.

>it didn't happen because russians said so!
hmmm very compelling evidence

>>2393564
Seems the whole denial is only about playing nice about Polish nationalist's feefees. USSR taking advantage of Poland's weakness to increase worker's power and kill a bunch of fascists is fine.
In hindsight they should have gone even farther.

>>2393498
>>2393440
>>2393491
The point is that it's not very prudent geopolitically as it doesn't reinforce anti Russian/anti soviet narratives and might even make one look at Ukrainian nationalists with a raised eyebrow, therefore you'll never see poles arguing about it or bringing it up when discussing WW2/russia/Ukraine online. But they'll bring up Katyn any chance they get

>another thread of apologetics for le good bourgeouis state

Honestly I don't care who did it. It wouldn't change my opinion on the SU either way.


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