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Gaza: The resistance broadcasts footage of its operations in Jabalia and the Shuja'iyya neighborhood.
The Palestinian resistance continues to confront the Israeli occupation forces advancing into the Gaza Strip, carrying out numerous qualitative operations.
Qassam Brigades broadcast footage of Israeli vehicles and soldiers being targeted in Jabalia.
The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, broadcast footage on Saturday of the targeting of Israeli soldiers and vehicles in the city of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip. The Brigades said the operation was part of a series of "Stones of David" operations.
In a separate announcement, the Al-Qassam Brigades said that its fighters confirmed, upon their return from fighting, that a D9 military bulldozer had been targeted with a highly explosive landmine near the Arbakan School in Jabalia on July 14, 2025.
On July 16, Qassam fighters targeted an Israeli Merkava tank with a highly explosive landmine near the Nama Club in Jabalia. They also targeted another tank in the same location with an Al-Yasin 105 missile.
Saraya al-Quds broadcast footage of the destruction of an Israeli vehicle in Gaza City.
For its part, the Al-Quds Brigades broadcast footage of the destruction of an Israeli military vehicle by detonating a highly explosive device east of the Shuja'iyya neighborhood in Gaza City.
In Khan Yunis, Saraya fighters targeted an Israeli military bulldozer with a side-improvised explosive device in the Abu Hadaf area, northeast of the city.
Al-Aqsa Brigades: We destroyed an Israeli vehicle in Khan Yunis earlier.
Also in Khan Yunis, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades fighters confirmed upon their return from fighting that they had destroyed an Israeli military vehicle by detonating a previously planted explosive device in the vicinity of Street 5, north of the city, on July 12, 2025.
The Brigades also announced today that they had shelled Israeli occupation forces with mortar shells north of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip.
In this context, Qassam Brigades spokesman Abu Obeida said in a video address on Friday that the Qassam Brigades' strategy at this stage is to inflict casualties on the enemy and seek to capture soldiers.
Abu Ubaida in a videotaped speech: Our strategy today is to inflict casualties on the enemy and seek to capture soldiers.
In his first video address since March 6, Abu Obeida, spokesman for the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said on Friday that "the strategy of the Qassam leadership at this stage is to inflict casualties on the enemy, carry out targeted operations, and seek to capture soldiers."
Abu Obeida noted that Qassam fighters "surprise the enemy with new tactics and methods, having learned lessons from the longest war and confrontation in the history of the Palestinian people." He warned the Israeli government that if it chooses to continue fighting, it "will be deciding to continue receiving the funerals of soldiers and officers."
"Our nation's regimes watch as their brothers are killed and starved."
The Qassam spokesman considered that "the necks of the leaders of the Islamic and Arab nation, its elites, and its scholars are burdened with the blood of tens of thousands of innocents who were let down by their silence." He believed that the enemy "would not have committed genocide, in the sight and hearing of the nation's leaders, unless it was safe from punishment, guaranteed silence, and bought the betrayal."
He added, "We do not absolve anyone of responsibility for the bleeding, nor do we exclude anyone who has the power to act, each according to his ability and influence."
<Greetings to all the free people of the world
In addition, Abu Obeida saluted all "free people around the world who are trying to stand in solidarity, break the siege, and lift the injustice from the Palestinian people, by all means, despite the risks."
He also saluted the Yemeni people, saying: "We salute our dear people in Yemen of wisdom and faith, its armed forces, and our sincere brothers, the Ansar Allah."
He said, "Ansar Allah imposed an effective front on the enemy, providing a conclusive argument against those who remained idle and submissive."
<negotiations to stop the aggression
Regarding the negotiations to end the aggression, Abu Obeida said that the Palestinians had "repeatedly, in recent months, offered to conclude a comprehensive deal in which all enemy prisoners would be handed over at once," affirming "support for the position of the Palestinian resistance negotiating delegation in the indirect negotiations with the enemy."
The spokesman continued, "War criminal Netanyahu and his ministers rejected our offer, and it became clear that they were not concerned about the prisoners because they were soldiers." He noted that "the prisoner soldiers are not a priority for Netanyahu and his ministers, as they have prepared the public in the entity to accept the idea of killing them all."
He warned that if Israel persists in the negotiations, "we will not guarantee a return to the partial deal formula, nor to the 10-prisoner proposal."
<"Attempts to recruit agents are a sign of failure."
In his speech, Abu Obeida addressed the issue of collaborators, saying, "Attempts to employ mercenaries and agents for the occupation, under Arab names, are a sign of failure and a sure recipe for defeat." He emphasized that, "The enemy's agents are nothing but a burnt card in the face of the Palestinian people's awareness, dignity, and rejection of treason."
He called on the agents to "repent immediately and return to the arms of their people, before it is too late."
In return, Abu Obeida expressed his "great gratitude and pride for the generous stances of our people's families and clans, who disavowed the isolated agents."
<"The steadfastness of our people is what most annoys their enemies."
In conclusion, Abu Ubaida saluted the Palestinian people in Gaza, saying, "We kiss the heads of all our great, patient, steadfast, and victorious people, and we extend to them our greatest salute." He added, "Our people's steadfastness, despite the betrayal, their patience, their giving, and their defiance of oppression and deprivation is what most enrages their enemies."
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-17/ty-article-magazine/.premium/satellite-data-shows-at-least-70-percent-of-gaza-buildings-leveled/00000198-12de-d9c7-af98-7adffc8f0000https://archive.is/cfTH1New Satellite Data Shows: Gaza Devastation Scale Greater Than Estimated, at Least 70 Percent of Buildings Leveled
<According to a Hebrew University mapping, 89% of the buildings in Rafah, 84% of the buildings in the northern Gaza Strip and 78% of the buildings in Gaza City have been completely or partially destroyed. The data shows that since April, an average of 2,000 buildings have been destroyed in Rafah each month
>"The residents of Gaza have nowhere to return to. The world they knew and their daily lives are simply gone," says Adi Ben-Nun, director of the Hebrew University Geographic Information System Center. "The devastation is on every level, from homes that have been demolished to public institutions, workplaces, schools and agricultural lands โ everything has been destroyed.">In recent months, Ben-Nun has analyzed satellite images of Gaza using an algorithm to assess the scale of destruction. He estimates that around 160,000 buildings โ about 70 percent of all structures in the Strip โ have sustained severe damage (at least 25 percent are entirely destroyed), rendering them uninhabitable.
>He adds that the actual level of destruction may be even higher, as satellite imagery is limited in detecting damage to a building's walls unless the roof has collapsed.>According to Ben-Nun, the southern city of Rafah โ home to about 275,000 Gazans before the war โ has suffered the most severe damage, as approximately 89 percent of its buildings are either completely or partially destroyed.
>The figures presented by Ben-Nun exceed those previously published on the subject. According to data from the United Nations Satellite Center, as of last April, more than 50 percent of buildings in the Strip had been either completely destroyed or significantly damaged, with visible damage to an additional 15 percent.
>UN estimates also indicate that beyond residential buildings, the IDF has destroyed at least 2,308 educational institutions and facilities, ranging from kindergartens to universities. According to these figures, every university in Gaza has been either completely or partially destroyed, and 501 of the Strip's 554 schools are unusable without major repairs. Additionally, 81 percent of roads and streets across Gaza have been damaged or destroyed.
<IDF officers told Haaretz that contractors can earn up to 5,000 shekels (about $1,500) for each building they demolish, and that they pressure commanders in the field to expand the scope of destruction, demanding forces to protect their engineering equipment and drivers.
>One of the so-called heroes of the demolition effort in Gaza is Rabbi Avraham Zarbiv, who serves as a D9 bulldozer operator during his reserve duty. Zarbiv has boasted about his role in a series of interviews, the latest of which appeared last weekend on the right-wing affiliated website B'Sheva.
< "Rafah is being cleared today; there's no Rafah," he said. "Northern Gaza is almost entirely leveled. Khan Yunis is next โ it'll be wiped out as well. Why isn't this happening within 12 days like the war with Iran? Probably because of the spiritual aspect. Here in Gaza, the work is different. In my humble opinion, God wants our job to be simply clearing the land. All this great wickedness, the likes of which we haven't seen in recent generations, must be wiped out."
>For example, the Israeli daily Maariv in May reported that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Security Committee: <"We are destroying more and more home. They have nowhere to return to. The only expected outcome will be the desire of Gazans to emigrate out of the Strip.">Statements like these align with government plans to forcibly expel Gazans, including the Trump administration's so-called voluntary transfer plan. Netanyahu has frequently referenced this plan and even told soldiers that the government is working to find countries willing to absorb Gaza refugees. He expressed his belief that <"more than 50 percent will leave, and in my opinion, many more." https://archive.is/gNTVphttps://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-22/ty-article/.premium/rabbinical-court-judge-serving-in-gaza-boasts-of-its-destruction-and-calls-to-flatten-it/00000196-f86d-db1f-a7b6-faedf8820000'Rabbinical Court of Khan Yunis'>Rabbinical Court Judge Serving in Gaza Boasts of Its Destruction and Calls to 'Flatten' It<Rabbi Avraham Zarbiv has had his name become a synonym for destruction, and has expressed pride in his role in the devastation in Gaza in several interviews, boasting that he demolishes 50 homes a week
>An Israeli rabbinical court judge serving in the Tel Aviv and Ariel religious courts, who is currently on reserve duty on the ground in Gaza, called on Tuesday to flatten Gaza.>In an interview with the Hakol Hayehudi website, Rabbi Avraham Zarbiv, whose name is now commonly used as a synonym for destruction, said that if Israel's goal is to defeat Hamas with as few casualties as possible, then "you simply need to flatten [Gaza].">Recently, Zarbiv posted a video on social media showing himself demolishing a building in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis with an IDF D9 bulldozer. In the footage, the person filming is heard saying, "Rabbi Zarbiv is 'Zarbiving' a house live from Gaza. Don't blink," as the structure collapses.
>Zarbiv, 53, is authorized to issue religious rulings under Jewish law and serves as a public official. At the outbreak of the war, he volunteered for reserve duty as a D9 bulldozer driver in the IDF's Givati Brigade and has since served for hundreds of days, often under fire. In one incident, terrorists fired an RPG at the bulldozer he was operating, but he survived.
>In recent months, Zarbiv has given several interviews in which he expressed pride in his role in the widespread destruction in Gaza. In a January interview with the right-wing affiliated Channel 14, he said he demolishes an average of 50 houses per week. "These buildings are two stories high," he said. During the interview, Zarbiv was referred to as "the flattener of Jabalya," and he added that Palestinians who wish to return home after the war will have nothing to return to.
<"There's nothing left for them in Rafah or Jabalya," he said. "The IDF's combat doctrine has changed โ we advance, and everything is destroyed." Zarbiv expressed disappointment that in areas like Gaza's Beit Lahia and Beit Hanoun, "only half is destroyed, not completely," he said. "We were on our way there, but then the agreement was signed," he added, referring to the most recent cease-fire that ended in March.
>He also noted that no trace remains of the residents' personal belongings in the demolished homes, saying, "Tens of thousands of families have no documents, no childhood photos, no ID cards. They have no home. They have nothing."This guy is like comic book villain.
>Additional reports about Zarbiv have appeared in other media outlets, including the ultra-Orthodox-affiliated media outlets Kikar Hashabbat and Channel 7. Two months after the war began, Zarbiv was filmed inside a house in Khan Younis, standing in front of a sign that read: "Rabbinical Court of Khan Younis.">Following the publication of the image, a spokesperson for the Rabbinical Courts responded that Zarbiv "was joking," adding that "he was being playful and set up a so-called rabbinical court in Khan Younis.">In one video posted on social media, Zarbiv recorded himself demolishing a building, saying: "We'll keep fighting until the end, until victory, until settlement." In another instance, he was filmed shooting a militant in Khan Yunis.Pic 5:
>Last week, he was featured on the cover of Athnahta, the supplement of BeSheva, a popular Religious Zionist newspaper.
>Here's the full text on the cover, under the headline "A Time To Destroy":<"The systematic destruction of terror structures in Gaza is named after him in the slogan "Zarbiving Gaza", and despite the physical difficulty, he is considered one of the leaders of the combat doctrine that began in his unit, the Givati's Heavy Machinery Unit. Rabbi Avraham Zarbiv does not intend to end his long service until the IDF finally flattens Gaza." >>2396752>What is happening in OP video?A rap battle between a zionist and an anti zionist. It was a documentary about two rap friends who were battling then oct7 happens and it killed their friendship, the doco director was trying to get a resolution, generally funniest thing i seen in ages. vidrel.
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>>2396752>Also, any good news or is the genocide continuing?No good news except the videos of attacks, the genocide continues.
Saraya al-Quds broadcast footage of an attempt to capture Israeli soldiers in Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip.
The Al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad movement, released footage on Sunday of a complex operation targeting an Israeli armored personnel carrier. The operation, it said, was intended to capture a number of soldiers in the Abasan al-Kabira area, east of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip.
The Al-Quds Brigades also targeted an Israeli occupation headquarters near Highway 5, north of Khan Yunis. The Brigades reported seeing a helicopter landing, gunfire, and smoke bombs being fired to evacuate the wounded.
<Mujahideen Brigades: We targeted an Israeli tank in the Shuja'iyya neighborhood.
For its part, the Mujahideen Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement, announced that it had targeted a Merkava tank with a highly explosive ground-based explosive device, the Hamim 2, in the Shuja'iyya neighborhood, east of Gaza City.
In this context, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, broadcast footage on Saturday of the targeting of Israeli occupation soldiers and vehicles in the city of Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip . The Brigades stated that the operation was part of a series of "Stones of David" operations.
Meanwhile, the Al-Quds Brigades broadcast footage of the destruction of an Israeli military vehicle by detonating a highly explosive device east of the Shuja'iyya neighborhood in Gaza City.
Georges Ibrahim Abdallah will be free by the 25th !!!!!!
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French court orders pro-Palestinian Lebanese fighter freed after 40 years
A French court has ordered the release of pro-Palestinian Lebanese fighter Georges Ibrahim Abdallah, who has been imprisoned for 40 years for his role in the killings of two foreign diplomats in France in the early 1980s.
The Paris Appeals Court ordered on Thursday that Abdallah, 74, be freed from a prison in southern France on July 25 on the condition that he leave French territory and never return.
The former head of the Lebanese Armed Revolutionary Brigade was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1987 for complicity in the 1982 murders of United States military attache Charles Robert Ray and Israeli diplomat Yacov Barsimantov in Paris and the attempted murder of US Consul General Robert Homme in Strasbourg in 1984.
First detained in 1984 and convicted in 1987, Abdallah is one of the longest serving prisoners in France as most prisoners serving life sentences are freed after less than 30 years.
The detaineeโs brother, Robert Abdallah, told the AFP news agency in Lebanon on Thursday that he was overjoyed by the news.
โWeโre delighted. I didnโt expect the French judiciary to make such a decision nor for him to ever be freed, especially after so many failed requests for release,โ he was quoted as saying. โFor once, the French authorities have freed themselves from Israeli and US pressures.โ
Abdallahโs lawyer Jean-Louis Chalanset also welcomed the decision: โItโs both a judicial victory and a political scandal that he was not released earlier.โ
Abdallah is expected to be deported to Lebanon.
Prosecutors may file an appeal with Franceโs highest court, the Court of Cassation, but it is not expected to be processed quickly enough to halt his release next week.
Abdallah has been up for release for 25 years, but the US โ a civil party to the case โ has consistently opposed his leaving prison. Lebanese authorities have repeatedly said Abdallah should be freed from jail and had written to the appeals court to say they would organise his return home to Beirut.
n November, a French court ordered his release on the condition Abdallah leaves France.
But French prosecutors, arguing that he had not changed his political views, appealed the decision, which was consequently suspended.
A verdict was supposed to have been delivered in February, but the Paris Appeals Court postponed it, saying it was unclear whether Abdallah had proof that he had paid compensation to the plaintiffs โ something he has consistently refused to do.
The court re-examined the latest request for his release last month.
During the closed-door hearing, Chalanset told the judges that 16,000 euros ($18,535) had been placed in the prisonerโs bank account and were at the disposal of civil parties in the case, including the US.
Abdallah, who has never expressed regret for his actions, has always insisted he is a โfighterโ who battled for the rights of Palestinians and not a โcriminalโ.
The Paris court has described his behaviour in prison as irreproachable and said in November that he posed โno serious risk in terms of committing new terrorism actsโ.
Abdallah still enjoys some support from several public figures in France, including left-wing members of parliament and Nobel Prize-winning author Annie Ernaux, but has mostly been forgotten by the general public.
>>2397452I'm curious as to what comes after, if they do manage to finish the ethnic cleansing, what will they claim has happened? That gazans just disappeared because they starved voluntarily? Or that they were all "terrorists" and dealt with?
How will they falsify the events when its become history?
George Ibrahim Abdallah… Behind the enemy everywhere
>Georges Abdallah had to spend many years in prison and exile, because people like him define and reshape meaning, diminish but never become extinct, and the earth will never be without them.
In historical myths, historians tend to describe heroes in a well-crafted plot that leaves no room for commentary on their characters' performances. They try to gloss over any errors, if any, to cast the narrative in an idealistic manner, making commentary on any flaw secondary. As long as the defining characteristics of heroism are prominent and present, there is no need to cloud the picture.
This is in history, when most of the โheroesโ have died hundreds of years ago, or some of them, and have risen above, in the temporal sense of the word, disagreements, alliances, alignments, and self-interest, and the voices of their opponents have faded and the reasons for momentary love and hatred have disappeared. At this surreal moment, the hero or traitor is born, glorified by novels and enhanced by myths, and history begins its work.
As for contemporary heroes, today or not so long ago, the task of history and peoples in creating them and chronicling their journey is more complex. We (as peoples, tribes, countries and individuals) observe and record what happened and is happening. Who stood up to the unjust ruler? Who sacrificed their family, wealth, well-being, youth and perhaps their life in order to speak the truth? Is "the one who said yes" the same as the one who said "no"?
This "no" echoes from all over the world, from all the tortured and persecuted people on earth. It's the same "no" that made us hear about a man named George Ibrahim Abdallah, a Lebanese citizen who loved his country in his own revolutionary way, and defended it for more than 40 years.
The man who was "sick with his love for Palestine," as described by the parole board, which subjected him to a psychological examination once a year to determine whether he was eligible for release, was not "eligible" according to Western definitions that undermined the laws of "justice and fairness," and ignored them simply because they did not meet American and Israeli requirements.
<George's story
George Ibrahim Abdallah was born in the village of Qobayat in Akkar in 1951. He continued his studies at the Teachers' College in Achrafieh, graduating in 1970. He joined the ranks of the national resistance, then the Palestinian resistance, defending the resistance and the Lebanese and Palestinian peoples. He was wounded during the battles against "Israel" during the invasion in 1978.
Under the slogan "Behind the enemy everywhere," he founded the Lebanese Revolutionary Armed Forces, and with his comrades, he succeeded in halting the supply of weapons to the Zionist enemy through precise operations directed against military personnel, not diplomats and civilians, as was widely reported at the time.
Abdullah was arrested in the French city of Lyon in 1984 and sentenced to four years in prison for possessing a forged Algerian passport. The Algerian government claimed to have issued him this document. His struggle began at that time, beginning with his refusal to object to the rulingโnot because he agreed with it, but because he believed the court lacked legitimacy and that France was essentially complicit in the aggression against his country.
George remained steadfast "behind the enemy everywhere," and later became a symbol of the resistance against tyranny and unjust judgments. He continued to resist, from behind his prison cell, he continued to resist. His steadfastness was resistance, his endurance behind bars without wavering in his positions was resistance, and his survival in the face of all the disappointments he faced was resistance.
Many rulings were leaked over the past 40 years, claiming that George would soon be released. He waited and we waited, but the appeal stood in our way. We waited again until George became the oldest political prisoner in Europe. We can only imagine the disappointment each time on his heart and the hearts of his family, and behind them the thousands of lovers of George, the symbol and hero, who reminds us every time he stands before the court that the valuable human being, the man of principles and integrity, has not yet died, even in an age when the age of man as machine has become widespread, prevailing and tyrannical.
<Directly to Lebanon
The French judiciary ordered Abdullah's release on Thursday. Based on the decision, he will be released this July. However, what was striking was the statement made by Georges's lawyer, Jean-Louis Challancet, who told the media that "the court upheld the conditional release ruling, meaning that activist Abdullah must leave France on July 25, the day of his release to Lebanon."
This means that they do not want George to give a speech or a talk or to be free for a few minutes on French soil. This is understandable (according to the logic of the Western media), which believes that a hero is not a hero unless he says yes to Western conditions, glorifies human rights in public, and violates their provisions in private.
A hero is not a hero unless he turns his face away from colonialism and accepts the occupation of peoples and the confiscation of their livelihoods. A hero is not a hero if he is "anti-Semitic" and does not love "Israel" and its crimes. A hero is not a hero if he does not accept that Palestine was a land without a people, and that the good, lighthearted Israelis came to inhabit it, regardless of the successive catastrophes and genocides they caused, and regardless of the truth of this historical lie in the first place.
In this sense, Georges will not be allowed to preach from the heart of France, a country that exports perfumes and democracies. His release ceremony must be fleeting, devoid of any signs of steadfastness in position or approach. Otherwise, Paris, and those behind its decision to imprison Georges for 40 years, will admit that they were unable to "discipline" the man. Thus, the meaning for which he was imprisoned will be lost, and a new meaning will be entrenched, one that the Western media machines do not permit. In the same sense, Georges Abdallah will emerge as a hero who rejected colonialism in action, then rejected it in words.
He will emerge victorious over Western narratives, establishing a generation that learns every day that bars do not detract from the value of men as long as the โchargeโ is national.
He will emerge and become a symbol of the nationalist, leftist, and patriotic struggles that dream of achieving justice on earth as not impossible.
Many will be waiting for him, who believe that colonialism is not destiny, and that peoples have no choice but to confront it.
Many will be waiting for it to reveal more tales of toil and founding. Stories of what would later become the history of an exceptional people who said "no," despite the world's attempts to force them to say "yes."
<Pope Leo XIV called for an โimmediate halt to the barbarism of the war and for a peaceful resolution of the conflictโ during his Angelus speech in Castel Gandolfo on Sunday.
<Speaking in the Papal summer residence, the pontiff expressed his โprofound sadnessโ regarding last Thursdayโs attack by the Israeli army on the Catholic Parish of the Holy Family in Gaza City, which killed three Christians and gravely wounded others, including Father Gabriel Romanelli, the pastor of the church.
>โI pray for the victims, Saad Issa Kostandi Salameh, Foumia Issa Latif Ayyad, Najwa Ibrahim Latif Abu Daoud, and I am particularly close to their families and to all the parishioners. Sadly, this act adds to the continuous military attacks against the civilian population and places of worship in Gaza,โ he said.
>โI renew my appeal to the international community to observe humanitarian law and to respect the obligation to protect civilians, as well as the prohibition of collective punishment, the indiscriminate use of force and the forced displacement of the population,โ the pope said.
>โTo our beloved Middle Eastern Christians I say: I deeply sympathise with your feeling that you can do little in the face of this grave situation. You are in the heart of the Pope and of the whole Church. Thank you for your witness of faith. May the Virgin Mary, woman of the Levant, dawn of the new Sun that has risen in history, protect you always and accompany the world towards the dawn of peace,โ Leo added.
<vidJohn Elmer on Breakthrough News today.
>>2398260>Netanyahuโs government is actively unraveling because Haredim are resisting the draft as they pray for Gazaโs destructionWell Netanyahuโs government has been
over for as long as i can remember. fdpd
>>2399080>islamist headchoppers that were put there by Israel hamas, while quietly "supported"(more like less repressed) by zionists at its beginning to divide palestine resistance and reduce their support in the west, are neither headchoppers nor "put there by israel" you fuck
>sat on their ass until their pagers blew its precisely because they didnt sit on their ass operations were conducted against them you idiot
>Israel which is also propped up by Russia, China and Indiathe fuck are you talking about, wtf is that glowie propaganda, how do russia china and india "prop up" israel?? Conducting business as usual is not "propping up", and china and russia do denounce them in international institution, contrary to nato countries who actively help them, arm them, run their propaganda, criminalize palestinian support, and defend them militarily and diplomatically
>>2399163Hamas are stupid fanatic islamist headchoppers yeah, from the muslim brotherhood that likes al nusra, syrian opposition etc with the big bourgeois boys leading them safely dictating ops from their mcmansions in other countries. They didn't have the leverage to push other countries to help them but they did the 7 october anyway and Israel let them and now the gazans are getting genocided, it's litterally the most stupid strategic blunder of this century.
Also business as usual for Israel
is supporting the genocide yes, cope all you want but at least tell yourself that you did more for the palestinians sitting in your cuck chair like a hezbollah "fighter" than Xi Modi and Putin who keep transacting with and giving weapons to Israel
>>2399331300 citizens of Syros blocked the disembarkation of Israeli tourists from the Crown Iris cruise ship โ Welcomed with giant Palestinian flagsA welcome with a clear political message was reserved by approximately 300 citizens of Syros for the Crown Iris cruise ship, which sailed at noon on Tuesday at the port of Ermoupolis, as reported by Cyclades24.gr . The ship, of Israeli interests, mainly transports tourists from Israel, however, the island's residents managed to prevent their disembarkation, resulting in the travelers remaining on the ship and eventually departing without setting foot on the island.
The mobilization was organized by members of local associations, unions and a large number of citizens, who gathered outside the port, opposite the building of the Decentralized Administration of the Aegean. Giant Palestinian flags waved in front of the sea, while a large banner with the message โStop the Genocideโ clearly declared the solidarity of citizens with the Palestinian people and the condemnation of Israeli policy in Gaza.
>>2399180fuck you they are just fighting for their survival
the official political leadership in qatar doesn't matter, the actual military structure that resides in gaza is independent, lead by people like sinwar who declared himself to be fully pro-axis
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1947633412870729940This is the Israeli Jewish settlement plan for Gaza that was presented today at an Israeli Knesset conference attended by members of Knesset and Israeli Minister of Finance:
โค 1.2 million Jews โ without Gazans, since they will all be expelled or forced to emigrate, not all voluntarily.
โค Construction of 300,000 housing units.
โค Establishment of high-tech, agriculture, and education centers.
The document presents a โstrategic planโ to remove Gazaโs population and replace it [Ethnic cleansing] with Jewish settlements, describing this as a โhumane and effective solution, not a collective punishment.โ
According to the plan:
โค After October 7, the Gaza population lost its legitimacy to remain, due to Hamasโs actions.
โค Their removalโeither voluntarily or through organized arrangementsโis considered necessary for resettling Sderot and expanding Jewish presence.
The proposed master plan includes:
โค Building two major cities in northern and southern Gaza with 300,000 housing units for over 1 million people.
โค Creating a university for 25,000 students focused on agriculture and water research.
โค Establishing a tech park, industrial zone, and a logistics center for trade and supply access.
โค Developing coastal tourism with nature trails and heritage sites.
โค Setting up security zones and strengthening nearby Israeli communities.
The plan also highlights that:
โค Over 1,000 families across 67 settlement groups are ready to settle immediately.
โค This is presented as the first phase of renewing Jewish settlement in Gaza, following Zionist tradition.
Saraya al-Quds: Contact with the security team for an Israeli prisoner was lost after an Israeli incursion.
The account of the military spokesman of the Al-Quds Brigades, Abu Hamza, announced on Tuesday evening that contact had been lost with a group that was tasked with securing an Israeli prisoner.
In a tweet on Telegram, the account said, "Contact has been lost since yesterday with the security group capturing soldier Rom Breslavsky, after the occupation forces infiltrated and besieged the areas where the prisoner is located. We do not know their fate to this moment."
The account stressed that since the beginning of the war of extermination against our people, "the criminal Netanyahu and his extremist right-wing terrorist government have deliberately ignored the file of their prisoners and their cause and are striving with all their might to kill them and return them to their families in coffins."
On May 16, Saraya al-Quds released a video
showing captive Breslavsky for about seven minutes, addressing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In the video, Breslavsky explains his situation in the Gaza Strip, also calling on Trump to pursue a prisoner exchange deal, holding Netanyahu responsible for his blood, and reminding him of his promises: "My blood is on your neck, Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu. Where are your promises to free us?"
>>2400491Thats just how most young women took photos for IG (and yes this include Islamic countries)
Do you guys never open a social media and just read debord in a cave
>>2400074I wish worse famine, death and destruction to all yids infesting Palestine
This doesn't makes me sad, but if fills me with unrelenting hatred
>>2400548>yes this include Islamic countriesPlease tell me about my country, more Amerimutt.
Fuck this IOF bitch and fuck you
>>2400323>>2400318Absolutely vile
I denounce the Talmud
Christ is King
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2400801>Greek police have dismissed reports in Israeli media alleging that a mob carried out a knife attack against a group of Israeli tourists on the island of Rhodes.
>According to police sources, the incident involved a verbal altercation at a nightclub between a group of about 20 Israeli teenagers, aged 18 to 19, and a second group of 10 individuals. However, no physical violence occurred.
>The Israeli group was reportedly chanting pro-Israel slogans at a bar when the second group responded with pro-Palestinian chants, allegedly calling the Israelis โmurderers.โ
>Police stated that the confrontation remained verbal. Tensions deescalated after bar staff intervened and the second group left the scene without further incident.
>Later, as the Israeli group was walking back to their hotel, approximately 100 meters from the bar, one individual was allegedly approached and struck by an unknown passerby.
>A police investigation, including witness testimony and video analysis, found no evidence of knife use or any organized assault involving vehicles, as had been claimed in some Israeli media reports.https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1276172/greek-authorities-refute-claims-of-knife-attack-on-israeli-tourists-in-rhodes/ https://x.com/Ahmed_hassan_za/status/1948102883141947673Thank you to all countries of the world for standing against genocide in Gaza.
But after condemnation comes responsibility.
The world has witnessed your courageous voices.. defending international law and human rights.. yet the children of Gaza are still being killed, and famine is spreading.
Thatโs why today we say:
The next step is not more words .. itโs action:
- End all arms trade with Israel โ no exports, no imports of military tech.
- Cut military and intelligence cooperation.
- Suspend trade agreements that fund the war machine.
- Impose targeted sanctions on individuals involved in war crimes.
- Support the International Court of Justice through legal and diplomatic pressure.
- Open your national courts to prosecute war criminals who enter your soil.
- Support Palestinian resistance โ legally, morally, and as a right under international law.
From words to action.
From sympathy to justice.
From condemnation to deterrence.
The resistance sets up ambushes in the Gaza Strip. Qassam Brigades releases footage of its operations in Jabalia and Deir al-Balah.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, broadcast footage on its Telegram channel on Wednesday of the targeting of Israeli soldiers and vehicles in Jabalia, north of the Gaza Strip, as part of the "Stones of David" series of operations.
It also showed scenes of the targeting of occupation soldiers and vehicles southeast of Deir al-Balah, in the central Gaza Strip.
The Al-Qassam Brigades announced today that it had targeted an Israeli Merkava tank yesterday, Tuesday, with a "Yassin 105" missile, in the vicinity of the Rayess Orchard, on Al-Sikka Street, east of the Al-Zeitoun neighborhood in Gaza City, in the northern Gaza Strip.
Yesterday, the Qassam Brigades targeted a seven-member Israeli force with a "TV" anti-personnel bomb, killing and wounding several soldiers in the Al-Mashrou' Junction area, east of Rafah city in the southern Gaza Strip.
In the same location, two days earlier, Qassam fighters had managed to detonate a previously booby-trapped house targeting an Israeli force of 10 soldiers, killing and wounding them after the building completely collapsed.
Resistance fighters also detonated two anti-personnel bombs targeting an Israeli engineering force of eight soldiers, killing and wounding them near the Deir Yassin junction in the Al-Janina neighborhood, east of Rafah, on July 17.
Also in eastern Rafah, Qassam fighters lured an Israeli force into a booby trap inside a house, where an explosive device exploded, killing and wounding several people, in the Al-Shawka municipality area.
In a separate announcement, the Qassam Brigades said that its fighters, upon their return from combat, confirmed that they had detonated a highly explosive device against an Israeli armored personnel carrier, destroying it and killing and wounding its crew in the al-Satar al-Gharbi area, north of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip, on July 12.
The battalions added that their fighters monitored the landing of helicopters for the evacuation, which lasted several hours.
The military spokesman for the Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida, said in a videotaped speech a few days ago that "the strategy of the Qassam leadership at this stage is to inflict casualties on the enemy, carry out special operations, and seek to capture soldiers ."
The Palestinian resistance continues to carry out targeted operations against Israeli forces advancing into the Gaza Strip, killing and wounding numerous soldiers , in addition to targeting settlements in the "Gaza Envelope."
What they going to start doing, anons?
Al-Qassam Brigades threatens the occupation with new tactics from the north to the south of the Gaza Strip.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said in a statement on Wednesday that it continues, for the 655th consecutive day, "to defeat the invading enemy from the proud land of Gaza," stressing that "the mujahideen from the north of the Gaza Strip to its south are lying in wait for the enemy."
The Al-Qassam Brigades added that its fighters' strikes "continue in several areas of the Gaza Strip, killing and wounding hundreds of enemy soldiers." She continued: "The Mujahideen's strikes have left thousands of soldiers with psychological illnesses and trauma."
The Brigades also indicated that its fighters "completely or partially destroyed hundreds of Zionist military vehicles."
Al-Qassam Brigades affirmed that the resistance will remain fully prepared to continue a long battle of attrition against the occupation forces, regardless of the form of its aggression and its aggressive plans.
She threatened the occupation that it would be surprised by new and diverse tactics and methods, so that the resistance in Gaza would become "the greatest military school for a people's resistance against their occupiers in history."
A few days ago, the Qassam Brigades, through its spokesman, Abu Obeida, said that its strategy at this stage is to "inflict casualties on the enemy, carry out special operations, and seek to capture soldiers."
These statements come at a time when the Palestinian resistance continues to confront the Israeli occupation in the Gaza Strip, destroying its vehicles and killing and wounding its soldiers.
In this context, the resistance announced today the implementation of several qualitative operations and ambushes in various areas of the Gaza Strip, and displayed footage of its fighters carrying out some of these operations.
>>2401672Uhhh, that they're going to send in 9 (nine) police officers?
They realise it's greece, right?
BASED ISRAELI ALERT
73 Israeli Woman Plots to Kill Netanyahu with an RPG
73-year-old Israeli woman has been charged with plotting to assassinate Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu using a rocket-propelled grenade, prosecutors revealed on Thursday.
The unnamed woman, said to be an anti-government activist from Tel Aviv, allegedly decided to take drastic action after receiving her medical diagnosis. According to the indictment, she claimed she was ready to โsacrificeโ herself in order to โsaveโ Israel from what she viewed as the dangers posed by the current government.
Prosecutors said she approached another activist and disclosed her intention to kill the prime minister. She asked for help in obtaining a rocket launcher and requested details about Netanyahuโs schedule and the nature of his security arrangements.
Netanyahu Cites Security Issues in Bid to Postpone Corruption Trial Again
However, the man refused to take part and attempted to talk her out of the plot. When it became clear that she remained committed to the idea, he reported her to the authorities, leading to her arrest.
Although the woman is claimed to be seriously ill, prosecutors have asked that she remain under house arrest for the duration of legal proceedings, citing her statements about being willing to die as a โmartyrโ as evidence that she remains a potential threat.
The incident follows a similar case last year, in which an Israeli man was detained after making online threats against the prime minister.
Political assassinations, while rare, have left a lasting mark on Israelโs history. In 1995, then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by a far-right extremist over his role in the Oslo Accords aimed at resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Activist Georges Abdallah via Al-Mayadeen: The Arab street movement sparks the struggle
Hours before his expected release, Lebanese activist George Ibrahim Abdallah, who has been imprisoned in France for 41 years, sent a special message to Al-Mayadeen TV , in which he affirmed that he was "calm, reassured, and a fighter until his last breath." He noted that he did not feel threatened and that his condition was "like that of any activist in our country."
In the message broadcast by Al Mayadeen , Abdullah emphasized the importance of the Arab popular movement, saying, "When the Arab street mobilizes, we will witness an explosion of struggle." He expressed his regret that "the Arab people are not rising up as they should, and are not taking action sufficiently."
In this context, he called on "citizens to mobilize and take action," warning against remaining silent or complicit.
The activist, Abdullah, also paid tribute to everyone who stood by him and supported his struggle, emphasizing that this support gave him momentum for the future, a reference to the high morale he maintains despite the four decades he spent in captivity.
In his analysis of the international context, Abdullah considered that "capitalism is in decline, and therefore wars are being waged," describing a global phase marked by increasing tensions and fabricated crises.
For her part, the activist's lawyer told Al-Mayadeen , "George Abdallah keeps up with all the events and has a great deal of energy and remarkable activity." She stressed the need for us to "rally behind his struggle, because his cause does not concern him alone, but rather expresses the conscience of the nation in resisting colonialism and hegemony."
Earlier, Abdullah praised the "growing mobilization" among his supporters, asserting that it was the primary reason the French judiciary agreed to his release.
<Who is George Ibrahim Abdallah?
>France's longest-serving political prisoner
Abdullah is one of Europe's longest-serving political prisoners . He was arrested in 1984 in Lyon, France, on charges of possessing a forged Algerian passport, after being pursued by the Israeli Mossad.
In 1978, Abdullah joined the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), co-founded the Lebanese Revolutionary Armed Forces (LAF) in 1981, and was later accused of participating in the assassination of American and Israeli diplomats.
<George Ibrahim Abdallahโฆ in the corridors of justice
In 1999, Abdullah met the conditions for release set by the French penal code. In 2003, a parole court ordered his release. The French public prosecutor appealed the decision, delaying his release. In 2005, the French public prosecutor's office opposed any decision to release him. In 2006, the French public prosecutor's office rejected Abdullah's request for release, arguing that France's image would be tarnished in the eyes of the United States and its allies, and that his deportation to Lebanon was no guarantee that he would not repeat the actions he had committed.
In 2007, Abdullah's lawyer submitted his seventh parole request, which was rejected on October 10 of the same year. In 2007, Abdullah appealed the ruling, and the appeal hearing was held on January 31, when the announcement of the ruling was postponed until April 17, 2008.
In 2013, the Paris Penal Enforcement Chamber approved the eighth release request, linking it to his departure from French territory. The Public Prosecution appealed, and the sentence was suspended. The French Enforcement Court also rejected Georges Abdallah's ninth request for conditional release in 2014.
The court had postponed Abdullah's release decision after a hearing held on February 20, ruling that he must pay part of the compensation to the families of the assassinated American and Israeli diplomats as a preliminary step to accepting his release request. The activist has repeatedly rejected this request, denying any involvement in the assassination.
It is noteworthy that the French Enforcement Court had ordered Abdullah's release in a session held last November, but immediately suspended the execution following an appeal from the French Anti-Terrorism Public Prosecutor's Office.
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>>2401533>when your enemies slander you as a bigot because you oppose genocide you should double down on actual bigotry because they're gonna call you that either wayno thanks just gonna keep opposing genocide
>>2402310bait
>>2402808taking bait
>>2403075That's a threat.
>>2402541Hi. I almost never post here, but here is my position, and it's been my position for over a year:
I think you're wrong. Not because I think hope is right; I think hope is more-or-less worthless. I guess for those who need it it is valuable. For me, I don't rely on hope, but on the understanding that it
is going to get worse, and that there
is no bottom. No border will protect you from the actions of your own governments if you live in the genocidal Zionist west. I am endlessly pessimistic, but I do not consider "acceptance" to be an option. The important understanding, which many people in the west (and even outside of the west) have lacked, is that there is no reward for such acceptance. For most of us there is no situation where we make our peace with this system and live in comfort, it just isn't actually an option at this point. Down the line, we, the workers, the poor, the homeless, the scapegoats, will eventually be next to be trampled.
This machine is our enemy not because there is any perceivable
hope of destroying it, but because of the genocide, theft, and atrocities it commits against humanity and against us. There is no
hope of living with it, and even the desire to try to attempt to do so can no longer be justified for most of us. I bore no illusions from the beginning that there was hope - because of this, I've been ready for over a year to devote my body and life and death to total war against the tyrannical Zionist state, its arms dealers, and its financiers. So why were we marching in circles?
I understand it on some level, but it needed far more from day one. From day one, many of us were ready to give far more.
Look at Aaron Bushnell for an example of a man who understands the stakes. What I want to know is where are all the Aaron Bushnells who are not setting themselves on fire? When will those of us who understand, on this visceral level, just how bad it is turn our flames outwards and burn the tyrants until only their ashes remain? When will the pain, the shame, the anger turn into real concerted action? The time was now over a year ago, and the time is still now.
Abandon your hopes, but with them abandon your weeping and your despair. Arm. Organize. Prepare your being for the judgment of history, because it's not just the people of Palestine who are being led to slaughter, it will be you as well.
Die fighting or die in the shame of subjugation. Never accept the crimes of the tyrant, only accept the tyrant's destruction, and prepare to forgive yourself and your comrades for doing unpleasant but necessary things.
>>2403460>Uhhh sweety the optics uhhh<Nono we ARE Nazis and we are proud of it<Deal with it, goy. (and keep up the payments)It is really funny because the reasons Israel is the 51st state haven't changed. But the need to incorporate anti-Zionism into the culture war to disarm it, apparently means ritualistic humiliation of US politicians. Presumably so ZOG posting and other retarded conspiracies becomes too low of a hanging fruit and too profitable to pass.
Obscuring the monstrous reality of everyone doing it for capital.
>>2403479 (me)
It's like the standing ovations for Netanyahu every single sentence. Or the servile manners of Trump around him.
Or every time a Zionist congressmoron opens their mouth to explain that Jews are better and Israel is owed more from themselves than their own constituency.
>>2403353>Christian Zionism makes more sense than whatever schizo Christian Palestine Liberation theology you've come up with. I think it's all pretty schizo when religion gets involved, but Christian Zionism is a very Western Protestant thing. This gets complicated because Palestinian Christians have been among the most militant Palestinians. Some of the founders of the Marxist-Leninist groups were of Christian background (that was, like, 1970s though), and then you also get these religious types into Greek Orthodoxy who joined Fatah. The last Palestinian I met didn't have issues with Christians and made a point of mentioning Palestinian Christians to the group of people I was with (he was a bit of a schizo too but I'm just saying, within their context, it doesn't quite map onto the same axis as it does here in the U.S.). Some Jewish settlers attacked a Palestinian Christian village a few days ago.
>If God is intervening on a side in this conflict he's clearly not doing so for the Palestinians.I usually quote Chairman Mao talking about how God takes many sides. Or there may be multiple gods who back up different sides. But I'm also a pessimist.
>>2402541What do you mean? The real defeat would have been if Israel completes the normalization process. That's why Hamas made its move, even if Shin Bet or whichever other body turned a blind eye to their preparations so they will have an excuse for a final solution. In no way have been things going well before Al-Aqsa Flood. There were several Israel provocations in the Al-Aqsa mosque which prompted Hamas to launch a retaliation more limited compared to their October 7 incursion. Settler violence in the West Bank was an everyday occurence.
The fact that Israel was ready to kill this many people just because of a few hundred kidnapped soldiers and druggies means that they would have done it anyway even without any sliver of justification. On the other hand the war had certain positive effects: it caused serious damage to the Israel's economy both in terms of FDI and the physical damage incurred by Iranian strikes. It also strengthened Russian-Iranian-Chinese cooperation while indefinetely postponing the India-UAE-Saudi Arabia-Israel corridor, intended to be a counter-Belt and Road by the US. If all this didn't happen, Israel might have gotten away with a slow-burn genocide as a hub of global trade while also benefiting from Chinese and Russian economic cooperation. The way things currently stand Israel will die together with Western hegemony as Israel is becoming increasingly isolated both among counter-hegemonic countries and current Western allies.
>>2403515Anarchist here. It's not a question of applying anarchism to the Levant, but just a simple matter of "the genocide of Palestinians is monstrous and we should do whatever we can to stop it", even if that means offering support to Hamas or whatever. Most anarchists, myself included, are more concerned with applying anarchist ideology and praxis in our own localities where we can actually make a difference, since at the moment there is no group of free territories with enough manpower or firepower to intervene in Gaza or anything similar.
Ideally I'd like there to be no borders or nations and Palestine just being one of many regions in our global civilization, but for the Palestinian people right now there are more pressing concerns than hypothetical future federations
>>2405687I think we can start with the place where the settlers are actively exterminating the natives, Israel.
I'm interested in Israel for the same reasons that Palestine struggle gets all the media attention while the west is freely permitted to raze Sudan in another proxy war, for example. OR starve, literally starve people basically everywhere in the poorest global south, through their imperialist policies:
Because Israel sits at the center of US hegemony, which needs financial imperialism which in turn needs the petrodollar as enforced by the MENA compradors among others.So destroying Israel by any means, as it is, such as it no longer can enforce US hegemony over the region, is progressive.
But I have zero faith in "the resistance"(Iran and allies/business partners) or any local anti-zionism, beacuse the wider picture , to me, seems to favor a slow exhaustion of the USA, flailing while it tries to re-assert global hegemony until it's own burgeoisie hit the breaks and eats the moribund hegemon from inside.
Which means Palestinians are fucked and their suffering will continue being just another token of exchange in geopolitics forever.>>2405687
>>2405808UAE opportunistically supports RSF to carve out more influence in the region/profit and Egypts deeply invested strategically in SAF for maintaing regional and border stability. but neither RSF or SAF were created by or with any substantial influence from either Egypt or UAE, and their existence is not dependent on the support provided. some degree or another of foreign involvement inevitably exists in every war. not every war is a proxy war. the war in sudan is straightforwardly not a proxy war.
>>2405817yeah and that guys family moved to mexico in the 1860s what do they have to do with it
>>2405785A proxy war doesn't need to be a well defined conflict between opponents.
Even if it doesnt shape to a tidy cold war delineation, the war in Sudan is backed by foreigners for their own interests.
>>2405933both of the things you stated are true and it still doesnt mean its a proxy war, youre emptying the term of any meaning. ukraine is a proxy war because it is a government deeply backed by US & NATO that came to power in a US backed & managed coup, that is pursuing goals primarily beneficial to US/NATO interests against a country they consider an enemy but cannot fight directly, i.e. they are using ukraine as a PROXY to wage war in absence of their own forces. the mujahideen were similarly proxies in the soviet-afghan war because of their efficacy having a hugely outsized dependence on US arms & training networks. the syrian civil war did become at least in part a proxy war between aligned iran-russia interests and US-israel interests. theres plenty of conflicts where its arguable and i'd defer to just saying its a proxy war for the backing powers but is also motivated strongly by the direct interests of the involved states, like saudi-yemen war.
but in this case referring to sudans current civil war as a proxy war just because there is vested opposing interests is just throwing words around. not only is it just bad analysis to say that e.g. the RSF is a UAE proxy, it lends legitimacy to actively obfuscationist imperialist claims that e.g. the houthis are simply proxies for iran just because they receive substantial material & political support and share ideology. in the case of hezbollah there is a legitimate argument to be made, more resembling the mixed scenario like the yemen-saudi war. but the houthi would be fighting regardless, theyre the latest in a long and consistent tradition of shia militancy in yemens highlands. recieving material support and sharing interests =/= being merely a proxy. that kind of simplistic thinking will flatten your understanding of these conflicts
>>2405687lol he doesn't know where he is
>do people here think that descendants of american settlers should be expelled from the continentyes
>and remigrate back to europeWhy? The Atlantic is right there.
>>2405903>>2405817>>2405675I do praxis by teaching the radicals about it, you'd be surprised how many people don't know the ties between Imperial Mexico, and Algeria.
Mexican anarchists get their minds blown by the fact they're somehow tied to the middle east, and use that as a means to make amends and leverage allyship with palestinians and push even harder against Israel.
You'd be surprised how heated and communaly involved people become when you create a higher purpose that springs them into action, a story they can change the pages of.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1861-1865/french-intervention>>2406284>How will Leftypol react when they inevitably end up attacking Russian and Chinese ships?Well evidently Yemen is supported by some combination of those and Iran. So I doubt they would actively pursue hostilities.
And hey, Yemen may yet get fucked by KSA/NATO again, after the whole thing with Palestine gets given a wrap-up in year or two. Eventually, the compradors, but especially KSA have to kiss the ring and sign whatever accords the USA finds reasonable. And this will also mean buying a fuckload of weapons from NATO…
>>2405687Well for one thing, we're all mixed at this point, so it's a tossup whether you deport us back to Europe or Africa, let alone which specific country you deport us to. For another thing, some of us are descended from both settlers and slaves, not just settlers. Also, this question is basically an unworkable hypothetical at this point. Who's doing the deporting? Indigenous Americans? JDPON occupation forces? Self appointed white savior progressives? It's a fantasy like reparations. White people in the USA would sooner nuke everyone than allow any of this to happen.
Finally people oppose the genocide in Gaza primarily because it is a genocide, not simply because it is settlers doing it and indigenous suffering from it. Humans have migrated and settled in new places for millennia. National sovereignty and anti-immigrant/settler sentiment is actually an innovation of the post-Westphalian bourgeois world order. When it comes to a particular instance of settling/migrating, the devil is in the details. Indigeneity as a concept can be used to justify Palestinian struggle against Israeli Occupation Forces but it's also used by NATO freaks to say we should balkanize Russia and China. So like any ideal it's a double edged sword.
>>2406916Oh this is the vid probably.
He just dropped it in there cool as a cucumber.
>>2408498>>2408485>Pre-existing conditionsThis stuff is like, nonsensical for most of the rest of the audience in western media. If anything they are doingIsrael a disservice by using the
universally despised lingo of USAno health insurance.
>>2408517Well, I'm not optimistic. I expect that every mainstream lefty will celebrate the washing-of-hands that the EU started and now even the USA is joining, as if it's some sort of achievement. They'd claim "it" "worked" and now Israel is totally losing support and whatnot. Worst of all, with the mainstream recognition and distancing from the genocide, whatever puny support for Palestinians will get sucked dry into liberal Zionist collaborators.
NATO are gonna congratulate themselves for *saving the Palestinians* and everyone is gonna buy it, evidenced by the genocide continuing to have 0(ZERO) political impact.
>>2408505>run for POTUS >???>win presumably>nuke IsraelWell, if it was that easy
Don't you think someone would have done it already?
>>2408769Adult Swim is so nazi coded itโs unbelievable
Sam Hyde was probably the least nazioid there
>>2408776Satire is dead
>>2408862Don't see it
>>2408900Ant Theyre so proud about it too
Like itโs so โsubversiveโ and what not
>>2408966well its interesting how politics and comedy align. in britain, our preferred comedy comes in the form of panel shows, which mimic parliamentary structure of opposing teams with a moderator in the middle. the host's role is understated while the panelists occur in ensemble. our stand up is also often presented in this ensemble form, such as on "mock the week" or "live at the apollo". we also have a penchant for sketch comedy in the UK, so again, the individual is subordinated to the premise of the sketch and the alternation between character types.
americans seem to have excelled in the form of stand-up comedy for its individualist and democratic nature (where people will even pay to watch a stand up show on HBO, while this is unfathomable in the UK). on american TV shows, the hosts also seem overstated, especially with institutions such as "late night" TV.
>>2408981I heard Joe Rogan talking to some guy once say they invented stand up comedy.
This is unironically what americans believe.
I don't even know that they have a big stand up show, where as at least we had that one for a while (with the big red curtains and i think large letters as the background of the stage), even if it wasn't very good generally.
>>2408998well a stand-up show is clearly just a secular sermon
it excels in the US because they exist in a quasi-theocracy, all from the time of the puritan pilgrims
in the mid-20th century with lenny bruce, did it ascend as a form of cultural subversion (which is why jews, irish and black comedians dominate in the US), while in the UK, its still run by anglos.
>>2409100>At this rate, the next flotilla crew will be straight up murdered.If they becomes
really annoyed, Israel will just ask politely and relevant states will deny the flotilla the bureaucracy to part.
>>2399080>>2399180>Also business as usual for Israel is supporting the genocideBoo hoo, China sells BYD cars and Alibaba shirts to the Zio entity, meanwhile it only exists because of US tax dollars, ensuring their military has unlimited money. Blaming China here is the same retarded trotskyite tactic of blaming the USSR for trading with the Nazis right up until Operation Barbarossa.
The Soviets traded with imperial Japan while they were raping China all throughout the 30s, yet China never accused the USSR of "supporting genocide".
>>2403431>Shame on Russia and China for not helping stop this genocide>Where are muh white and yellow saviours?What, you watched James Gunn's Superman, and suddenly worship unilateral intervention, USA style? It's not enough for the US to be actively supporting the genocide of a people. Leftists need to insert their particular cultural fantasy to be the savior and idol of those it has killed. Chinese people would call this ๆไบบ่ฏๅฟ, "to annihilate their heart after killing them". The arab world cucked out, who the fuck are you to demand foreigners come to their aid? Pack your shit and join Hamas yourself.
>>2409223>>2409223>the reason being that the Soviet Union actually did give help to SpainThe key difference here is that China has not done this. When Mao wrote that, the Soviets had sent the equivalent of roughly $2,000,000,000 in today's money in arms to the Spanish Republicans as well as thousands of soldiers. There is no such equivalent aid being sent to Palestinian militant groups by China today. (Yes, I remember the conferences - how many conferences and meetings and declarations will it take before Israel is defeated?)
Also, I'm not quite sure what your point seems to be in that second half - that people with significant power to work against a genocide shouldn't do anything to help because…the USA does foreign interventions too?
>>2409240The content of Mao's speech is not invalidated based on quantity of money poured in. China qualitatively provides material support, and the actual leadership of Hamas thanked them for all the trade, humanitarian aid and infrastructure projects they provided. Unfortunately for you, China isn't gunrunning enough for the satisfaction of your subjective idealism, therefore in your mind they "do nothing to help".
The type of "help" you fantasise about will never come. Pull your head out of the 20th century. The fact that you're so arrogant of your ignorance on China's diplomacy is on you. China is not the Soviet Union, which overexerted itself and collapsed spectacularly. China never pretended to instigate revolutions around the world like some trotskyist fantasy or a Red US Empire. Why should they declare war on Israel, if the Arab world can't even stand up for themselves? China isn't going to unilaterally intervene on foreign affairs no matter what happens. Do nothing, win.
>>2408862Eric Andre is both black and Jewish and his sense of humor derives from both black and Jewish comedy of the past, among other things like Tim and Eric. Not everything you personally dislike is nazi coded.
Polite sage for offtopic
>>2408981>our preferred comedy NPC programming meme: "I chose to laugh at this bourgeois psyop"
>>2409421>allowing your citizens to be kidnapped in international waters by a rogue terrorist state kind of invalidates their own claims to sovereignty and makes a joke of the international bourgeois order.the current New World Order's central contradiction is workers being "documented" or not. These neoliberals would say "sir, do you have the correct paperwork to protest genocide??? You have no rights given to you by God who we have attacked and dethroned for our real estate rental profits"
>>2410232> it's not like they have military bases and ports in the regionsThey don't
>Still doesn't address the fact that besides stopping some businesses like COSCO to operate with Israel (arguably because of the Houthis rather than from the good of their hearts) they don't do shit, don't fund legitimate aid for Palestine and continue to trade dozens of billions with IsraelI too wished they did more, but it's hardly surprising and a bit hypocritical to complain about it when our own governments not only dont do anything, they actively support and facilitate the genocide in Gaza
Here's some Wikipedia excerpts on China's relationship towards Gaza. Can you imagine a western government taking these positions ever? I sure can't
<After the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections, the PRC referred to Hamas as the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people.[4]:โ130โ The PRC invited the Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar to attend the China-Arab Cooperation Forum in June 2006 ignoring protests by both the United States and Israel but received praise from Mahmoud Abbas.[10] The PRC continued to focus its Palestinian diplomacy with the PLO, however.[4]:โ130โ Chinese contacts with Hamas decreased following Hamas' defeat of Fatah in the 2007 Battle of Gaza.[4]:โ130โ As part of its view of maintaining a balanced posture and avoiding alienating Hamas, the PRC's policy is to never label Hamas as a terrorist organization.[4]:โ131
<On 11 October early into Gaza war, China reiterated its support for a two-states solution and called for a ceasefire in the fighting.[30] Following Russia and China's veto against a US draft resolution on 25 October in the UN Security Council, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh issued a statement praising the two countries' position.[31][32] In January 2024, Israel reported that it discovered a big stockpile of Chinese weaponry used by Hamas.[33][34
<Following talks mediated by China, on 23 July 2024, Palestinian factions including Hamas and Fatah reached an agreement to end their divisions and form an interim unity government, which they announced in the "Beijing Declaration".[35] The Palestinian reconciliation talks hosted by China generally increased international perceptions that China was a credible intermediary on these issues.Now you might say that this is not enough and I would tend to agree, but it's certainly more than my government does and I presume yours too. So it's a bit pointless of you to bitch about this
>>2410546Everything the west does is a priori sus
That's one thing
I wouldn't single out the germs here.
>>2410546https://xcancel.com/AliAbunimah/status/1950635301841563997๐จ "Two-state solution" document endorsed by France, Europeans, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar and Arab League, circulated at UN and revealed by @TimesofIsrael calls for dissolving @UNRWA without implementing the right of return for Palestinian refugees. I'll explain:
(1) The document talks about the "achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee issue," without mentioning, or reaffirming the right of return. This is long-established "peace process" code for abrogating the right of return, resettling Palestinian refugees outside Palestine so that Jewish demographic supremacy is not threatened, and at best monetary compensation.
(2) It talks about UNRWA "handing over" its duties NOT to the government of an independent Palestinian state, but to "prepared and empowered Palestinian institutions" in the "Palestinian territory." In other words, all this takes place prior to the supposed independence of a supposed Palestinian state. It is a formula for dismantling any international institutions and frameworks that protect Palestinian rights.
(3) There is much more in this document revealing its anti-Palestinian hostility, including demanding disarmament of the resistance and handing over its weapons, under occupation, to the Palestinian Authority, and endorsing a "demilitarized" Palestinian state, while the occupier that is perpetrating a holocaust retains all its capacity for genocide.
Here's the Times of Israel report, which contains a link to the document:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-1st-entire-arab-league-condemns-oct-7-urges-hamas-to-disarm-at-2-state-solution-confab/In same document, endorsed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey and European countries etc., they demand that the Palestinian resistance completely disarm "in the context" of ending the genocide in Gaza, and hand over its weapons to Israel's proxy, the Palestinian Authority. There is no reference, of course, to the entity committing genocide disarming. On the contrary, all this is meant to ensure "security" of the genocidal settler-colony and leave its victims totally defenseless.
In other words, they make ending the genocide conditional on "Israel" achieving its goals.
>>2410778Iran will never make peace with Israel-cult.
Especially after the random attacks Iran endured and what happened to Palestine.
>>2410546I feel like the UK, France, etc doing this is merely a performative act with no real substance behind it.
>look we heckin recognized you as a state a week before your final total annihilationpic rel
In a video, Al-Qassam Brigades publishes footage of the Israeli prisoner: The occupation government decided to starve them.
The Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, released footage of Israeli prisoner Eviatar David, who was awaiting release in a prisoner exchange deal. However, the Israeli government "decided to starve him."
The video, titled "The Occupation Government Has Decided to Starve Them," features David waiting for a prisoner exchange deal to be implemented, alongside scenes depicting the suffering of Gaza's children as a result of the blockade, clearly aligning the impact of the starvation policy on both sides.
The clip included a statement by the Israeli government's National Security Minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, in which he said, "What should be sent to Gaza are bombs," confirming the punitive approach to dealing with the humanitarian blockade imposed on the Strip.
The video concluded with the phrase, "They eat what we eat and drink what we drink," a message that emphasizes that the fate of Israeli prisoners is linked to the reality of the besieged population of Gaza.
This clip comes amid the ongoing Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip since October 7, 2023, which has been accompanied by a blockade that includes preventing the entry of fuel, medical aid, and food, exacerbating the suffering of more than two million Palestinians living in catastrophic conditions.
>>2412420The demand is Palestinians disarm themselves before the occupied territories will be recognized as a state. For whatever reason slacktivists never mention that part.
As neither Hamas nor the PLO will EVER agree with that, this is all just one big political theater.
>>2415283And its not like Israel has any credibility whatsoever. Their goal is
the actual complete destruction of the Palestinians as a people and developing the demographics to build a Jewish ethnostate. Whether this entails a complete extermination or a gradual oppression and slower ethnic cleansing is irrelevant.
This is like Nazis, but actually even more upfront about their settler colonial goals, demanding all the people's they have marked for depopulation in their plans "disarm". And they are proudly advertising the Generalplan Ost at every chance they get.
Abu Obeida: Opening the corridors and halting air raids are conditions for delivering aid to the prisoners.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced its readiness to respond to any request from the International Committee of the Red Cross to deliver food and medicine to Israeli prisoners held in its custody. However, it stipulated that humanitarian corridors be opened regularly and permanently to allow the passage of food and medicine to all Palestinian citizens in the Gaza Strip.
Brigades spokesman Abu Obeida stressed that accepting this order also requires halting all forms of Israeli airstrikes during the times when parcels are being delivered to prisoners.
Abu Obeida explained that the Qassam Brigades do not intentionally starve prisoners, noting that they "eat the same food as our fighters and our people," emphasizing that "no prisoner will receive any special privileges in light of the starvation and siege imposed on Gaza."
Earlier, the Al-Qassam Brigades released a video of the captive Israeli soldier, Evitar David , speaking about his health and living conditions in captivity, and directing sharp criticism at the Israeli occupation government.
In the same context, the family of Avitar David issued a statement saying: "Humanitarian aid must reach the people of Gaza and Avitar as well."
WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - U.S. states and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied federal aid for natural disaster preparedness, the Trump administration has announced, tying routine federal funding to its political stance.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency stated in grant notices posted on Friday that states must follow its "terms and conditions." Those conditions require they certify they will not sever โcommercial relations specifically with Israeli companiesโ to qualify for funding.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-links-19-billion-state-disaster-funds-israel-boycott-stance-2025-08-04Lol
Canadian Forces airdrop humanitarian aid into Gaza for the first time
Palestinians describe feeling โhumiliated,โ plead for more aid brought in by trucks
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-forces-humanitarian-aid-gaza-1.7601030"Your vehicles are in ruins." The resistance destroys occupation vehicles in Khan Yunis and Gaza City.
The Al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Jihad movement, announced that its fighters had destroyed an Israeli military vehicle by detonating a previously planted "Thaqib" explosive device in the Abu Hadaf area, northeast of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip.
"Your vehicles have been reduced to rubble," the brigades said in a brief statement, referring to the operation launched by the occupation months ago under the name "Gideon's Vehicles," which aimed to seize complete control of the Gaza Strip, eliminate the resistance, and displace Gazans. However, it failed to achieve any of its objectives, as Israeli officials themselves admit.
In a related development, the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, the military wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, reported that it had destroyed an Israeli personnel carrier in cooperation with the Al-Quds Brigades, by detonating an anti-tank explosive device on Al-Muntad Street, east of the Shuja'iyya neighborhood in Gaza City, in the northern Gaza Strip.
The Brigades confirmed that the explosion resulted in the deaths and injuries of crew members, noting that this operation comes as part of the ongoing response to the occupation's crimes against the Palestinian people.
These operations come as part of the Palestinian resistance's response to the Israeli incursion and aggression and siege, resulting in heavy losses among the Israeli occupation forces.
Amid calls for Zamir's dismissal, Israeli officials say the decision to occupy Gaza was made pending a decision by the cabinet.
Sources close to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday that "the decision has been made, and the direction is toward decisive action and a complete occupation of the Gaza Strip," adding, "If that doesn't suit the Chief of Staff, let him resign," according to Channel 14.
In a briefing given by Netanyahu's office and broadcast by Kan Channel this evening, he said, "The prime minister is interested in a complete occupation of the Gaza Strip in order to resolve the matter with Hamas." Israeli government ministers were quoted as saying, "The cabinet is expected to convene later to make a decision," adding that, "If this plan is implemented, the chief of staff may resign from his position."
In this context, a senior official in Netanyahu's office told Channel 12, "If we don't act now, the prisoners will starve to death, and Gaza will remain under Hamas control."
But another political source said, "The decision has not yet been made, and the body that will decide the matter is the cabinet," according to Israel's Channel 14.
Meanwhile, senior officials close to Netanyahu told the Israeli website Ynet that "military operations will also take place in areas where prisoners are held." The website did not rule out the possibility that these statements were part of a negotiation tactic in an attempt to pressure Hamas.
<"American green light"
Other sources told the website that US President Donald Trump had given Benjamin Netanyahu the "green light" to launch a large-scale military operation in the Gaza Strip.
<Calls for Zamir's dismissal
Israel's Channel 13 reported, citing what it called "Netanyahu's entourage," that Israeli Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir would have to resign, or be fired, if he did not comply with the decision to take full control of the Gaza Strip.
The channel added that Zamir canceled a planned visit to Washington after "the possibility of reaching a deal collapsed," suggesting that he "has a lot to say on the issue."
<Tension between the Israeli Chief of Staff and the political level
Israeli Army Radio confirmed today that tensions between Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir and the political echelon have "reached their peak ," with Zamir demanding "strategic clarity" for the army regarding the ongoing war on the Gaza Strip.
She added that Zamir "is pushing for a deal, saying that flexibility is possible, and that an effort must be made to reach it."
Army Radio reported that the Chief of Staff warned in closed-door talks that a prolonged presence in the Gaza Strip "endangers Israeli forces, plays into the hands of Hamas, and increases attrition within the army."
In light of this, the army will present two options at the political level if a deal is not reached. The first is to occupy the entire Gaza Strip, which it opposes, and the second is to encircle and exhaust it, which is what the military leadership recommends.
>>2417114Does it matter though? Israel has already won. Nothing *material* stops Israel from firebombing the refugee camps and turning hundreds into tens of thousands of deaths every week. They just aren't allowed. The matter to settle is just how much allowance they have left from the USA until the big ceremony reasserting NATO rule in paper. Because all their goals are already achieved, so this is overtime. We are just waiting to see how many treats Israel has earned from NATO.
And it's a matter of time before the armed resistance succumb to privation as well. Provisioned and determined as they may be, the civilians still make a hard limit on their ability to fight. You cannot recruit much more than suicidal martyrs, when all the stock you got is those whose desperate struggle to keep their own alive has ended on the bad side of things. Who else, relatively capable is gonna choose to abandon their friends and families to privation?
Well I'll tell you who, traitors. But those join the other side, and have potential rewards other than a fleeting sense of righteousness before inevitably martyrdom.
Lets not forget, that nobody is stopping Israel. IDK to what extent people believe the liberal Zionist washing of hands that has been going on since the EU made it officially a-okay to recognize the atrocities (if still justify them back then). But it is all consensual and when it ends it will end i the unilateral terms of NATO. Hezbollah is gone, Iran has been sufficiently intimidated to wait this out, despite knowing they are next. And internationally seems the same is going on.
The ICC chief prosecutor is an USA plant. And the ICJ seems to also have successfully have stalled themselves out of having to rule anything before the genocide is over. They could totally have, they just chose to keep giving Israel extensions and warnings. Everyone else is just waiting for their bribe to arrive when NATO eventually needs to pass this through the UNSC.
And regardless of the no doubt aspirations of many other players of extracting concessions, through the UN as opposed by NATO's unilateral militarism… Well tough shit. NATO has neutralized any threats and kicked the UN out. For good. It doesn't matter if at some point the UN is allowed to establish a minimally survivable environment for the remainders of Gaza, in some Israel guarded Bantus-tan. At that point they are just subsidizing Israel,and it is going to be funded from the USA's pockets anyway.
Joint resistance operations target occupation control sites and vehicles in Gaza and Khan Yunis.
The Palestinian resistance continues to confront the Israeli occupation forces advancing into the Gaza Strip, carrying out targeted operations, inflicting human and material losses.
<Qassam Brigades targets occupation control sites in Gaza City and Khan Yunis
The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced Tuesday that it had struck an Israeli command and control site near Dar al-Arqam School, east of the al-Tuffah neighborhood in Gaza City, north of the Strip, with a number of mortar shells.
Also in Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip, Qassam Brigades bombarded an Israeli command and control site on the Morag axis with a number of heavy mortar shells.
Also in Khan Yunis, the Qassam Brigades targeted an Israeli armored personnel carrier with a highly explosive barrel bomb, killing and wounding its crew, in the Al-Zana area, northeast of the city.
It also announced that, in conjunction with the Al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Jihad movement, and the Al-Nasser Brigades, the military wing of the Resistance Committees, it had succeeded in destroying a gathering of occupation soldiers and vehicles near the Al-Muhandis Hall in the Al-Satar Al-Gharbi area, north of Khan Yunis, with heavy mortar shells.
<Saraya al-Quds broadcast footage of joint operations with the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades and the Ansar Brigades.
For their part, the Al-Quds Brigades and the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, the military wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, broadcast footage of a joint operation that destroyed an Israeli military vehicle. The Al-Quds Brigades also broadcast footage of Israeli soldiers being targeted with mortar shells, in conjunction with the Al-Ansar Brigades, east of the Shuja'iyya neighborhood in Gaza City.
<Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades: We blew up an Israeli vehicle in the Shuja'iyya neighborhood.
The Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, in a separate announcement, said that one of its units, upon resuming contact, confirmed that it had destroyed an Israeli vehicle with a pre-prepared anti-tank explosive device east of the Shuja'iyya neighborhood in Gaza City on July 8, killing and wounding its personnel.
<Al-Aqsa Brigades targets an Israeli gathering in Khan Yunis
For its part, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades announced that it had targeted a gathering of Israeli occupation soldiers and their vehicles with a number of mortar shells, east of the Al-Qarara area, northeast of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip.
In this context, the Israeli occupation army admitted today that an officer was injured in the southern Gaza Strip .
This comes amid talk of a plan for a new attack on the Gaza Strip aimed at occupying it completely. This plan is likely to be approved in a cabinet session next Thursday, while the Israeli army opposes it, warning of its dangers.
>>2417515IDF hands typed this post. You seem to think that kill ratio is indicative of winning a national liberation struggle historically. Things are playing out as many genocidal wars in the past have. The oppressed will take thousands upon thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of losses in both civilian and combatant life. In the end, the contradictions of the suicidal, hubristic strategy that colonizers and fascists employ will bleed out their will to fight across all sections of their society. You mention the ICJ and ICC, I refer strictly to battlefield conditions. Hezbollah is not gone, and if a zionist intervention into Lebanon is to be believed, they will continue to extend themselves thin. Do you know who will continue to join the ranks of Al Qassam? The same people who have always took up arms to fight, the orphans, of which Gaza has no shortage of, and their will to fight, rooted in the rubble of their home and watered with the blood of their families and friends, is stronger than that of the decadent perverts of Tel Aviv.
>>2419135> In the end, the contradictions of the suicidal, hubristic strategy that colonizers and fascists employ will bleed out their will to fight across all sections of their society. YSpeaking of this was supposed to be a big development. I think one news report I was listening to was saying he is the number one writer in Israel.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/01/david-grossman-israel-committing-genocide-gazaThe award-winning Israeli author David Grossman has described his countryโs campaign in Gaza as a genocide and said he now โcanโt helpโ but use the term.
โI ask myself: how did we get here?โ the celebrated writer and peace activist told the Italian daily La Repubblica in an interview published on Friday.
โHow did we come to be accused of genocide? Just uttering that word โ โgenocideโ โ in reference to Israel, to the Jewish people, that alone, the fact that this association can even be made, should be enough to tell us that something very wrong is happening to us.โ
Grossman said that for many years he had refused to use the term. โBut now I canโt help myself โ not after what Iโve read in the papers, not after the images Iโve seen, not after speaking with people whoโve been there. This word is an avalanche: once you say it, it just gets bigger, like an avalanche. And it adds even more destruction and suffering,โ he said.
Grossmanโs comments come days after two major Israeli rights groups said Israel was committing genocide in Gaza, amid growing global alarm over starvation in the besieged territory.
The author, who has long been a critic of the Israeli government, told La Repubblica he was using the word โwith immense pain and with a broken heartโ.
โReading in a newspaper or hearing in conversations with friends in Europe the association of the words โIsraelโ and โhungerโ โ especially when this comes from our own history, from our supposed sensitivity to human suffering, from the moral responsibility weโve always claimed to hold toward every human being, not just toward Jews โ this is devastating,โ said Grossman, who won the countryโs top literary prize, the Israel prize, in 2018 for his work spanning more than three decades.
โThe occupation has corrupted us,โ he said. โI am absolutely convinced that Israelโs curse began with the occupation of the Palestinian territories in 1967. Maybe people are tired of hearing about it, but thatโs the truth. Weโve become militarily powerful, and weโve fallen into the temptation born of our absolute power, and the idea that we can do anything.โ
Asked what he thought of France and the UK being among the latest countries preparing to formally recognise a state of Palestine, Grossman said: โI actually think itโs a good idea, and I donโt understand the hysteria around it here in Israel. Maybe dealing with a real state, with real obligations, rather than a vague entity like the Palestinian Authority, will have its advantages. Of course, there would need to be very clear conditions: no weapons, and the guarantee of transparent elections from which anyone who advocates violence against Israel is excluded.โ
He said he remained โdesperately committedโ to the two-state solution. โIt will be complex, and both we and the Palestinians will need to act with political maturity in the face of the inevitable attacks that will come.โ He added: โThere is no other plan.โ
>>2419135Remember those cards of the different factions of armed resitance? Was it them who would stop Israel?
Was it going to be Hezbollah?
Or Ansar Allah?
Nononono it was totally going to be Iran right? Yeah they totally did not cuck out to US slapping them around and pressure from their BRICS partners to sit the fuck down and not escalate. Because it would upset their profits if Israel continued to be pounded and actually threatened forcing the hand of NATO.
If this stage in the conflict has proven anything, it's that Palestinian blood will continue to be the cynical token of exchange in realpolitik diplomacy it always was.
You seem to think that hopium and "morale" matter. That's the road that will have you cheering the coming recognition of the "state" of Palestine as the administrative dominion of a bunch of Zionist collaborators. It may yet happen before the next thread. And you are gonna be coping for the next decade+ of Oslo III.
You think that just because Israel is a settler colony that it functions under the pressures that ended colonialism. It is not; Israel is infinitely profitable, because it underpins the petrodollar, and existential for the world hegemon. It has infinite support from the USA and NATO. And it's also supported by the entire region of compradors of the former. If NATO ever goes to a direct war that ruins them it'll be over Israel.
If you think Israel will be defeated by a bunch of ragtag militias whose international support has all but been withdrawn or cut off, you are delusional. K/D ratios are pointless.
Gaza is already ethnically cleansed and destroyed. And the consequences are nil. It is not a hypothetical, they have already done it.
When delulus like you told themselves that Palestinian resistance and advocacy was building a safety net of repercussion for the existing and potential means of advancing the Zionist project, I laughed. Now i laugh harder because Israel has somehow FINSHED a literal campaign of extermination of everyone in Gaza(and largely annexed the west bank in the meantime) and you are there still talking about BDS and protesting and the bad PR of genocide and the surely coming consequences that never showed up during months of industrial extermination.
Oh yeah buddy, it's all in the pipeline. Any fucking day now.
>>2419176This shit is so darkly funny. How the lefties are joining the liberal Zionist washing of hands. After the NATO left being impotent little cucks watching the genocide unfold fro their chairs. Eating whole every psyop. Entirely fucking powerless to impose even the meekest of prices for the overwhelming Zionist support within their states.
And now some pieces of shit come with the same liberal Zionist song and dance and you eat it whole, desperate to claim some victory of your own.
>>2419176It's so funny that you cucks are doing the same thing as the the actually antisemitic right. You have no victories or power of your own so you latch on to the ebb and flow of propaganda to stake your claims.
PRomoting this liberal Zionist filth is no different from ZOGposting.
>>2419233You already have the most complicit parties trying to cover their asses for the hague trials
>>2419236No area of Gaza is uncontested militarily, the occupiers are bleeding and will bleed until civil war and death
An old banger from 2009, just to give you context about some "communities" and their representatives. The original at
http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/05/a-must-read-jewish-propagandist-inadvertently-exposes-his-plot/ isn't up anymore, here's a link to an archive
https://web.archive.org/web/20090115085023/http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/05/a-must-read-jewish-propagandist-inadvertently-exposes-his-plot
>The Italian daily Il Manifesto, on Sunday January 4th, 2009, published a fascinating item http://files.splinder.com/16f989276695dd194fe372903b1f26db.pdf revealing what goes on behind the Hasbara scenes.
>The chairman of the Jewish Community of Rome, Riccardo Pacifici - voted in on a ticket expressly called "For Israel" - recently announced that the Union of Italian Jewish Communities (UCEI) was about to donate 300,000 Euros' worth of medicine to the victims of the war in Gaza: 200,000 to "the children and people of Gaza", 100,000 to the "children and civilians" of Israel.
>The Italian Foreign Minister expressed his great admiration for this generous gesture.
>However, a right-wing Italian emigrant to Israel, Shimon Fargion, raised a noisy protest against this aid to Palestinians.
>Riccardo Pacifici answers Fargion, apparently on a semi-public mailing list. First declaring his "total support for this war in Gaza". Faelino Luzon chimes in to explain that this "gesture of humanity" had been "decided on beforehand together with the top Israeli officials (for obvious reasons, I cannot go into greater detail)" .
>Pacifici explains that the Italian Jewish community agreed with the Israeli ambassador on keeping a "low profile"at this time. "I can assure you - writes Pacifici - that the decision to send medicine to Palestinian and Israeli children was taken only for media purposes, and was only used for our struggle which will start on Monday in the media to support Israel". Pacifici announces that on January 10th there will be a "mega-event" with 1,500 personalities chosen together with the Israeli ambassador in order to "explain Israel's reasons and its right to make this war".
>Pacifici explains that the Roman Jewish community did not spend "even one Euro" for the medicine, which was donated by "an international Jewish organization" and guarantees that "in any case not one piece of medicine will get to Gaza unless it has been authorized by the Government of Israel".
>Then Riccardo Pacifici, chairman of the Jewish Community in Rome, writes another, more personal e-mail to Shimon Fargion:
>"Dear dickheadโฆ give me your address so I can come and kick you in the assโฆ here at For Israel I work fucking hard and I have a police escortโฆ YOU PIECE OF SHITโฆ. I did everything together with the Israeli embassyโฆ What the fuck do you know about what we are doing? YOU PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT".Back then, you had this. Now, there's GHF. There's no doubt they've upped their game.
>For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there.
>With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.
>The imperialistic forces in the Capitalist West and Communist East, support the enemy with all their might, in money and in men. These forces take turns in doing that. The day Islam appears, the forces of infidelity would unite to challenge it, for the infidels are of one nation.
>Nationalist Movements in the Palestinian Arena. The Islamic Resistance Movement respects these movements and appreciates their circumstances and the conditions surrounding and affecting them. It encourages them as long as they do not give their allegiance to the Communist East or the Crusading West.
>Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
>Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
>"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)The end
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp >>2416626Everyone should ask the DPRK.
(post from 2015)
>>2423586>the democratic establishment in america which will never recover as the younger crowd inherits the partyI think it's extremely naive and idealist that this trend will be able to dislodge US support for Israel. The support of both parties for Zionism stems from the material interests of their leadership and the American ruling class. These interests won't change and they will continue to shape the next generation of American liberal politicians. As far as public opinion goes, it's pretty irrelevant because America is simply not a democracy.
>economically they're losing because their credit keeps getting downgraded by international finance Only because of the war and Houthi blockade, but they could end these tomorrow if they wanted without surrendering much. As I said before, Israel could blunder its way into serious trouble if it insists on its current course, but if they have any sense (which it seems they dont) they would end the war today with lasting victories and only temporary setbacks.
>Palestine creeps closer to a state of its ownFrankly I don't see how this is relevant. Israel's actions are already highly illegal and widely condemned. Official recognition of Palestinian statehood wouldn't change much practically speaking.
>exposing the western double standardsMost of the world was already well aware of this and have been emboldened by the trend towards multipolarity. However this trend has actually faced setbacks in this war with the weakening of Iran and the Axis of Resistance. Frankly I think the defeat of Syria alone more than makes up for any of the problems you described by virtue of the fact that the anti-Zionist government (and perhaps the state of Syria itself) is gone forever, whereas Israel will eventually recover diplomatically and economically.
>>2424044>this trend will be able to dislodge US support for IsraelI didn't say it would, the relationship between america and israel would simply transform away from unconditional cash and support and towards the kind of relationship we have with Japan or South Korea. This is totally possible, but requires a change of government in israel
>Israel could blunder its way into serious troubleisrael was under deep social crisis even before oct 7th with the whole judicial reform thing. to think they're not in trouble right now its kinda crazy
>Official recognition of Palestinian statehoodI didn't say official recognition but an actual state for Palestine, which under 1967 borders would change literally everything. they'd have the authority to raise taxes and build an army, and able to host untouchable embassies and diplomatic missions. and since defeating Hamas isn't possible, they'll be the inheritors of Gaza
>Most of the world was already well aware of this and have been emboldened by the trend towards multipolaritywhen you say 'world' I'm assuming you mean the nation states. those aren't the ones that needed convincing, it was people all over the world witnessing israels crimes that mattered more. yeah losing Syria was a big setback, but I get immense satisfaction knowing it came at the cost of its international reputation in normie society and witnessing the israeli lies fall on deaf ears. I think in 50 years oct 7th will be seen as the turning point for israel as it struggles to adapt to the new era
>>2423459>>2423496This. Suddenly you will see more German weapons used in Lebanon, Syria, West Bank. And the German ones previously used will be replaced by American ones woooow
>>2423503that doesnt work actually because if German weapons bought by e.g. Italy would be sent to Israel, they would still need to ask Germany for permission
>>2424044>The support of both parties for Zionism stems from the material interests of their leadership and the American ruling class.Cap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ox-DzSF7TgIgnore the clickbait title. Gives historical and contemporary evidence that support for Israel and Zionism is motivated by neither profit or geopolitical advantage.
>>2426725Delusional.
From reading the hasbara subs and other pro-Israel outlets I think they donโt understand or appreciate how severely the genocide has changed world opinion. Theyโre still doing racist dismissal and acting like itโs just โArabsโ (and now โAsiansโ) who care. We donโt need to point out that all the actual pro-Israel bits are Indian. Netanyahu is going to actually end up being jailed for life for genocide.
>>2427905>It's not a genocide because…A fine standard.
Lets apply it on Zionists.
<ANUDDA SHO–Nuh uh. Not a genocide.
Now come get your food from the nice men with guns.
>>2420396the conversation started with a question about burgers here
>>2405687i was merely answering it here
>>2406838not really sure how we got off on the wrong foot
>>2431695>Qassam brigades are winning on a military level, I understand thatโs hard to see but itโs trueMilitary grade hopium. Hamas will compromise because they must, to retain the slightest degree of power. And then comes Oslo 3, then in a few years walling up the west bank to begin anew.
But in the meantime, the BDS list will add a few gorillion$ to their "damages" and everyone currently expression pro-Palestine sentitments (98% liberal Zionists) will join a war drive against Iran that will make the making of Saddam as "the next Hitler" look posh by comparison.
>>2433857Not all of 4chan is pol
Lgbt is left leaning and pro palestine, hence why zionists are astroturfing there
>>2433857>>2433864>>2434314>>2434375>>2434740>letting zionists groom the most left leaning demographic of the worldYou're all retards
>>2434924Reported for homophobia
>>2435159And? No one in the left denies the parallels between zionismo and nazism. But you infracel chud still not providing ANY proof there were no queers before zionism, and that lgbt folk are a zionist invention
You lost, now fuck off back to your discord server to lick the hairy armpits of the ugly midget you idolize
>>2406987Marxism is a failed religion built on a pseudo-theology.
>>2435115Transgenders are not more left wing than any other demographic. Most just happen to be liberals. That's it. LGBTs equate religion with oppression and evil. Hamas is a religious movement and most Palestinians are religious. So even left wing LGBT will generally see Palestinians negatively, even if they don't support Israel. Some will be anti-Palestinian or crypto-Zionist even if they are left wing.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/icj-vice-president-lord-counting-me-stand-side-israel
<Julia Sebutinde, the Ugandan vice-president of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), has said God "is counting on me to stand on the side of Israel" and the signs of the "end times" are "being shown in the Middle East".
<Early last year, Sebutinde was the only judge on a 17-member ICJ panel that ruled it was "plausible" that Israel was committing genocide in Gaza, who voted against all six measures adopted by the court.
<And in July 2024, she was again the sole dissenter when a 15-judge panel found that Israel's decades-long occupation of the Palestinian territories was "unlawful".
<In February 2025, a study accused her of directly lifting sentences almost word for word in her dissenting opinion written on 19 July 2024.
<It alleged that โat least 32 percent of Sebutindeโs dissent was plagiarisedโ. Sebutinde declined to comment on the controversy to MEE at the time.
<Now, the 71-year-old judge has publicly addressed criticism of her position for the first time.
<"The Lord is counting on me to stand on the side of Israel," she said on 10 August in a speech at the Watoto Church in Uganda, according to the Ugandan news website Monitor.
<"The whole world was against Israel, including my country."
<Sebutinde described her disappointment that the Ugandan government has distanced itself from her position.
<"The position taken by Judge Sebutinde is her own individual and independent opinion, and does not in any way reflect the position of the government of the republic of Uganda," a government spokesperson said in January 2024.
<Sebutinde recalled: "Even though the government was against me, I remember one ambassador saying, 'Ignore her because her ruling is not a representation of Uganda'."
<'God has allowed me to be part of the last days'Sebutinde, who briefly served as the ICJ's acting president earlier this year, further revealed that she stood to be vice president of the world court, a role she now holds, because she felt compelled by God to do so.
<She said God called her a "coward" and told her to "wake up" when she was lying in bed on the morning of the election worrying about criticism over her stance on Israel.
<The judge also shared her thoughts on Gaza, saying the situation signalled the "end times" predicted in the Bible.
<"I have a very strong conviction that we are in the end times," she declared. "The signs are being shown in the Middle East. I want to be on the right side of history."
<She continued: "I am convinced that time is running out. I would encourage you to follow developments in Israel. I am humbled that God has allowed me to be part of the last days."
<The study alleging Sebutinde had plagiarised her July dissenting opinion was produced by an anonymous Palestinian researcher for US scholar Norman Finkelstein's recent book Gaza Gravediggers.
<The study alleged she plagiarised from various pro-Israeli commentators and lawyers, and that she directly lifted several sections from Wikipedia and BBC News. >>2435436What a satanic bitch. Fuck pissrael and fuck her. I hope she will soon find herself in "end times". Hoes like this are the reason atheism is dominating.
Average people are LITERALLY more moral than the god (demon) these monsters worship.
Trump Cuts Off Medical Visas from Gaza After Laura Loomer Meltdown
The move comes after Loomer, the right-wing provocateur, freaked out over a video of children from Gaza coming to the U.S. for medical care
By Naomi LaChance, Asawin
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-gaza-laura-loomer-medical-visas-hospital-1235410184/Lol
Has Chinaโs solidarity with the Palestinians died in Gaza?
Dr Razan Shawamreh
Nineteen billion dollars โthatโs how much China sold in goods to Israel during the genocidal Gaza war, making it Israelโs top trading partner in 2024, ahead the U.S., which exported nine billion. That ten billion gap speaks louder than Beijingโs public statements.
While Israelโs genocide in Gaza continues, Chinaโs new ambassador to Israel, Xiao Junzheng, marked his arrival on 29 November 2024, with an op-ed in Israel Hayom. Titled โTaking a long view and working in joint hands for a new chapter,โ it focused less on Palestinian suffering and more on optimism about deepening ties with Israel.
He describes the relationship as rooted in the idea that โthe Chinese and Jewish people each possess a long history and an ancient civilization, and enjoy a time-honored friendship that continues to flourish.โ
This raises a key question: how did โJewishโ shift from being a religious identity to a civilization? Such language aligns with Zionist discourse, framing Israel not just a state, but as the homeland of Jews worldwide.
By portraying Israel as an โJewish civilizationโ and referring to it as the โJewish state,โ China is adopting the core ideological framing of Zionismโa shift with deep political implications.
This is not new; since normalizing relations in 1992, China has consistently portrayed Israel as an ancient โJewish state,โ sidestepping its reality as a settler-colonial project in Palestine.
Whatโs alarming is the timing: China uses this rhetoric amid an ongoing genocide in Gaza. While it speaks of Palestinian rights at the UN, it simultaneously affirms Israelโs legitimacy with language echoing Zionist logic.
This exposes two Chinas: one at the UN calling for a ceasefire and a two-state solution, and another praising Israel as a โJewish state,โ avoiding the word genocide, and speaking of โworking in joint handsโ with Israel.
How can China avoid blame for reinforcing Israelโs far-right, which uses Israel the โJewish state,โ narrative to justify Gazaโs erasure and the West Bank occupation?
From Vetoes to Drones
Despite popular belief, China and the U.S. have taken similar positions on Palestineโnot just during the current war, but overall. Neither has used the term genocide. Both mildly criticize Israeli settlements but continue investing in their expansion. The support the Zionist narrativethat frames Israel as the legitimate representative of the โJewish peopleโ and defend its โright to exist,โ while ignoring Israelโs settler-colonial origins.
While the U.S. arms Israel, China largely stays silent, even avoiding U.S. military aid to Israel from its official documents. Beijingโs criticism is limited to U.S. vetoes at the UN Security Council.
This silence reflects Chinaโs growing complicity, especially through its private sector. Chinese-made drone parts are now embedded in Israeli military systems. A recent Israeli Defense Ministry tender for five thousand FPV suicide drones, for use in Gaza and the West Bank, names HQProp (China) as the exclusive propeller supplier and Team Blacksheep (Hong Kong), as the only approved supplier of communication modules. These are essential components for striking Palestinian targets, with no restrictions on their use.
DJI, the worldโs leading drone maker, has seen its drones used by Israeli forces for surveillance and military purposes. Though DJI claims its products arenโt for combat, their presence contradicts Chinaโs diplomatic calls for ceasefire.
This contradiction extends to language. โShalomโ has been used cynically by both Chinese and American officials. Donald Trump used it mockingly after ordering the arrest of pro-Palestinian students, while, Xiao praised the term as reflecting Israelโs peaceful nature, saying: โThe first Hebrew word I encountered is โShalomโ, which not only serves as a greeting but also carries the Jewish peopleโs long desire for peace since ancient times.โ
The West MovesโChina Stays Still
On Israel, it is not the โWest versus the rest,โโitโs the West, the U.S., and China together versus the rest.
Ironically, several Western countries complicit in Israelโs genocidal war have recently shifted. The UK summoned the Israeli ambassador and suspended the talks on the free trade deal; meanwhile, Chinaโs ambassador reassured Israeli that โChinaโs new development will bring new opportunities to Israel.โ
Chinaโs BRICS partners, Brazil and South Africa, withdrew ambassadors from Israel and downgraded ties. China merely reaffirmed that โthere is no direct and fundamental conflict of interests between China and Israel, nor are there any outstanding historical issues.โ
French President Emmanuel Macron called Israelโs actions in Gaza โshameful and disgraceful,โ noting that only historians can decide if itโs genocide. China still refuses to use the term, even as UN experts, international courts, and leaders across the Global South do.
Britain, Italy, Spain, Canada, Belgium, and the Netherlands have banned or restricted arms sales to Israel, while Chinese companies continue exporting arms-related goods as usual. This doesnโt absolve Western powers, but shows how China now mirrors the worst Western practices.
When Israeli forces fired on international diplomats in Jenin in May 2025, countries like Canadian, Uruguay, Denmark, France, Spain, and Italy summoned their ambassadors. China only said it was โclosely following the incidentโ and urged โall relevant parties, especially Israel, not to take any escalatory moves.โ
But in the West Bank Israel is the sole occupying powerโthere is no second party. If China insists on such language, it should clarify who these โrelevant partiesโ are.
China claims to offer a more โjustโ alternative to Western foreign policies, its actions now mirror U.S., whose unconditional support for Israel has made it a global outlier.
In May 2021, after Israeli attacks on Gaza, Chinaโs Foreign Ministry spokesperson criticized the U.S. for opposing the international community. Now, the U.S. no longer stands aloneโChina has joined it in opposing the global consensus.
Chinaโs posture increasingly resembles the U.S. approach, raising the question: does China benefit strategically from the war, as its main rival, the U.S., further implicated? The longer the war drags on, the more the U.S.โs image as a moral authority erodes, potentially boosting Chinaโs global standing. Why should Beijing interrupt this?
Palestinians donโt expect China to cut ties with Israel, but hope it wonโt become another United Statesโfrom the East. Yet, Gaza is becoming a graveyard not just for invaders, but for great powersโ claims and morals. Palestinians feel bitter, if not betrayed, and China should take note.
Dr Razan Shawamreh
Palestinian researcher in International Relations. Her work focuses on Chinese studies, international relations theory, Sino-Israeli relations, and Chinaโs strategy in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA).
https://faraamaai.org/articles/loud-clear/has-chinas-solidarity-with-the-palestinians-died-in-gazaWhat do you think?
Posting it once again
<Under Deng's successors, the PRC has continued its relations with both Israel and the Arab States. Under CCP general secretaries Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, China has supported the Middle East peace process and the Oslo Accords in principle. Yasser Arafat visited China on 14 occasions.[5]
<After the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections, the PRC referred to Hamas as the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people.[4]:โ130โ The PRC invited the Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar to attend the China-Arab Cooperation Forum in June 2006 ignoring protests by both the United States and Israel but received praise from Mahmoud Abbas.[10] The PRC continued to focus its Palestinian diplomacy with the PLO, however.[4]:โ130โ Chinese contacts with Hamas decreased following Hamas' defeat of Fatah in the 2007 Battle of Gaza.[4]:โ130โ As part of its view of maintaining a balanced posture and avoiding alienating Hamas, the PRC's policy is to never label Hamas as a terrorist organization.[4]:โ131โ
<After the 2008โ2009 Gaza War, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Qin Gang urged both parties to solve disputes through dialogue and denounces the use of military force in solving conflicts.[11] After the May 31, 2010 Gaza flotilla raid the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokersperson Ma Zhaoxu strongly condemned Israel and urged Israel to seriously implement the UN Security Council resolutions and to improve the situation in the Gaza Strip by lifting the blockade.[12]
<During the November 2012 Operation Pillar of Defense in the Gaza Strip, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson told reporters in a news conference that China expressed "concern" to the clashes and urge all sides, particularly Israel, to display restraint and avoid civilian casualties.[13] On November 29, 2012, China voted in favor of UN General Assembly Resolution 67/19 Palestine to non-member observer state status in the United Nations.[14] In 2014, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping stated that he supported Palestinian statehood.[4]:โ29โ
<During the 2014 Gaza War, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hong Lei on 9 July 2014 in response to the violence said: "We believe that to resort to force and to counter violence with violence will not help resolve problems other than pile up more hatred. We urge relevant parties to bear in mind the broader picture of peace and the lives of the people, immediately realize a ceasefire, stick to the strategic choice of peace talks and strive for an early resumption of talks."[15]
<China voted in favor of UN Security Council Resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlement building on the West Bank and typically takes positions sympathetic to the Palestinian cause at the United Nations. In early 2016, CCP general secretary Xi Jinping reasserted China's support for "the establishment of a Palestinian state with its capital being eastern Jerusalem" in a meeting with the Arab League.[16] Xi also announced an aid project of 50 million yuan ($7.6 million) for a solar power stations in the Palestinian territories.[16]
<Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called the lack of "an independent [Palestinian] state with full sovereignty" a "terrible injustice" in an April 2017 meeting between Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al-Maliki. Wang went on to say that China supports Palestinians' efforts to create an independent state based on the borders set before the 1967 Six-Day War as well as the establishment of its future capital in East Jerusalem.[17] In July 2017, Xi delivered a further formalization of China's positions in his "Four Points" on the "issue of Israel-Palestine conflict", the first of which was that China supported the establishment of an independent, sovereign Palestine within the framework of the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital.[18][19]
<In July 2019, Palestine was one of the 54 countries which issued a joint statement supporting China's policies in Xinjiang at the United Nations (UN).[20] A year after in June 2020, Palestine also backed the Hong Kong national security law at the UN.[21] After Palestinian ambassador to China Fariz Mehdawi [ar] visited Xinjiang in 2021, he praised China's upkeep of mosques on Chinese state media,[22] saying in an interview with CGTN anchor Liu Xin: "if you have to calculate it all, itโs something like 2,000 inhabitants for one mosque. This ratio, we donโt have it in our country. Itโs not available anywhere."[23] His response was criticised by Radio Free Asia journalist Shohret Hoshur who cited a past interview with Uyghur mother Patigul Ghulam saying the Uyghurs were in a worse situation than the Palestinians.[24]
<Palestine's President Mahmoud Abbas has visited China on five occasions as of June 2023[25] and has voiced support for Beijing's policies toward Muslim minorities in Xinjiang.[26] During his fifth visit on 13 June 2023, he met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Chinese premier Li Qiang to discuss the latest developments in Palestine as well as other regional and international issues. China has stated its willingness to assist in facilitating peace talks between Israel and Palestine.[27] During the trip, China announced a "strategic partnership" with the Palestinian Authority[28] and Xi proposed a three-point proposal to solve the IsraeliโPalestinian conflict, calling for a Palestinian state on the basis of 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital; humanitarian aid to Palestine; and the convening of a "larger, more authoritative, more influential international peace conference" to promote talks.[25][29]
<On 11 October early into Gaza war, China reiterated its support for a two-states solution and called for a ceasefire in the fighting.[30] Following Russia and China's veto against a US draft resolution on 25 October in the UN Security Council, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh issued a statement praising the two countries' position.[31][32] In January 2024, Israel reported that it discovered a big stockpile of Chinese weaponry used by Hamas.[33][34]
<Following talks mediated by China, on 23 July 2024, Palestinian factions including Hamas and Fatah reached an agreement to end their divisions and form an interim unity government, which they announced in the "Beijing Declaration".[35] The Palestinian reconciliation talks hosted by China generally increased international perceptions that China was a credible intermediary on these issues.[4
>>2436205>I don't advocate for a two state<Two state is and has been considered a viable solution for many decades.Did you get dropped on your head as a baby? There's nothing "practical" about a two-state solution when the nation you shill unconditionally neither advances it nor pressures the genociders opposing it.
>MUH PRACTICALITY In reality, Palestinians have only lost land despite Zionists like you preaching "two-state solution" for decades. I swear you brain-dead Zionists just regurgitate terms you half-remember, praying nobody questions this nonsense.
>>2436211Yeah it is still considered by some and has historically been considered as such, I don't advocate for it personally, but I'm not so arrogant to claim that two state is completely unreasonable or anyone who advocates for it is per definition a zionist. Some people consider it a more practical, more feasible solution, at least temporarily to the current situation. Of course this view has become a lot less popular since the failures of Oslo and especially since the current exeleration of the genocide.
>>2436213That I am friends with and know many Palestinians is not the issue at stake
>>2436215I don't care about your ethnicity, just because you're Lebanese or whatever doesn't mean you're not a fucking retard screeching about nothing
>>2436320Execution
by rule of law of billionares who harm proles
Never happens in bourgeois dictatorships
>>2440018Lmaooo, because you talk like a fucking retard without a clue regarding the issue you moron, you being arab doesn't make you an expert on Palestine but it does make it extra embarrassing for you to be such a retarded spaz about it that I thought you literally only learned about this last year, that's true.
Is this all you got? Going into this thread once a day to complain about how I didn't know you were arab? You are actually retarded bro
>>2440036 (me)
And they always do this after the deed is done, to provide cover for it. While having otherwise supported the broad strokes of the Zionist project all along.
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