And how the FUCK is this black gentleman wrong in his analysis you leftypol RACISTS? China is clearly not socialist and its even symbolized on their own DAMN flag!
>>2395660HAHAHAHA
MIDWIT THINKS CORPORATISM OPERATES INDEPENDENTLY OF THE CAPITALIST MODE OF PRODUCTION
>>2396051Wrong. In Communist China, the bourgeoisie was eliminated by 1981.
https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/documents/cpc/history/01.htmDengism eliminated the bourgeoisie.
>>2396062>and eliminated the exploiting class by 1982.The exploiting class is the bourgeois, it makes no sense to honor them in the flag.
>Removing the stars would mean erasing the revolutionary historical contributions of these classesThat implies the bourgeois are revolutionary.
>>2396098They're still better than the rest of the bourgeois because they have the aesthetics and have cultivated a decently secular society. They also have neon cities, not as many ads on their apps and have innovated a lot of stuff.
It would be better to be a wage slave of China than America, Russia or any other regional power for sure.
>>2396062- China isn‘t ML, they are Dengist and therefore revisionist
- Your excessive focus on symbolism is idealist
- Changing the flag now wouldn‘t erase shit from history, it would just reflect current attitudes while you can still look up all of that shit in history books.
>>2396161It’s cope, they don’t expect China to bring on socialism at all, in truth most China shills (in the West at least) are comfy middle class college educated types that may or may not be downwardly mobile that have enough historical literacy to take a negative moralist stance against their country but no actual interest in furthering a Marxist understanding beyond that, a lot of them unironically have impotent fantasies of the PLA murdering everyone in their neighborhood (lol) but more likely than not basically just wish their own government was a one party state that “did capitalism correctly”
Most would be typical Cold War anticommunists in a more stable era for the West. There are some who would be communists even during the Red Scare, but not modern MLs.
>>2396169The song goes
The people's flag is
deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts'
blood dyed its every fold.
The current flag is PINKish light red. Because they are just succdem bastards anyway, but also because they don't respect socialist history very much to have a red standard.
Either way its like really kawaii-desu and Sakura bonzai tree style (PICREL). So it is better than the other bourgeois nations' flags.
I would write more about what their pinkish red symbolizes, but the document about the standardization of the flag is in Chinese and I cannot be bothered to translate the PDF because it is scanned. The document is from 2004.
This is also very bad, it excludes not only Antarctica, but the possibility of socialism everywhere. It isn't really a star, stars don't look like that they're round. So it should either be a circle (stars look more like circles, look at the sun) and our planet is
sort of circle shaped or an all red banner so its better to just use an all red banner in the exact color of blood by literally having a white banner dyed red with blood so its the authentic thing.
That's basically how it started too, it was people with white banners that died and it became red, sort of the story with the Fr*nch flag except they only kept it one line and had the gap from it being torn and waving in the sky become the blue.
>>2396188LOL YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET OWNED SO QUICK JUST WATCH
>>2396188Guess what the first proposal of the USSR coat of arms looked like, thats right it was FASCES, because FASCES symbolizes UNITY. And I heard from a slightly racist and conspiracist coworker that the word commune comes from "jewish" I don't know if yiddish or hebrew to mean "com" "un" or "like one" as in all acting like one. As in many people acting in unity (like one thing). So if the coworker is true, and I think there is some truth to conspiracies then yes, you just got OWNED. Plus and I write
PLUS fasces IS NOT exclusively a FASCIST symbol, even though FASCISM derives from the word FASCES - the ITEM is not the same as the IDEOLOGY. The item is simply symbolic of unity, it is very good, tons of places have the slogan "Unity makes strength" it is very true and very good. And you just got OWNED because you don't know anything about symbolism, heraldry and vexillology and aesthetics when I do and you didn't and you tried to make a cheap gotcha and then you got got (owned) and destroyed. Now you're gonna cry "NOOO YOU'RE A SCHIZO! SCHIZOPOSTING" but I know deep inside you'll cry, you are now going to go WAAA WAAA then try to act all smug about it behind screen, but I know you just got mentally fucked. I WIN.
>>2396195AND TO RUB IT IN, THE COVER OF THE SOVIET CONSTITUION OF 1918
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU GOT OWNED
>>2396188YOU GOT DESTROYED
>>2396195About the coworker, he also said the hammer was there because of stonemasonry, associating communism with freemasonry and the amount of historical figures tied to communism being jewish. It is a bit odd that the GDR also had the compass, when the compass is like the super duper known for it symbol of the masonic fraternal organizations.
BUT its interesting that it didn't have the symbol until 1953, they only had the hammer, which again is like stonemasonry freemasonry but less so because like steel workers use hammer to hit things and construction workers hit things with hammers so it is like worker stuff. The compass? Not so much, an ODD choice to say the least. Very odd. I should read more about WHY it was there.
>>2396208>The fasces symboblizes authority because it was literally the bundle of sticks that they would go around and beat people with to make them comply with the law, or if needed, capital punishment with the ax.Yea, but it also symbolizes unity (between the sticks to keep the axe together) fundamentally it was used for authority to keep all the sticks (people) compliant with Rome (axe) or something.
I dunno, if you've watched this movie called the house that jack built it had a bunch of these psychopath symbolism (called icons) references, I thought it was cool.
>>2396219When Bordiga burped after eating so much lasagna he caused a chain reaction in the air that inadverately caused the Tri-State Tornado which killed 695 Americans and injuring 2,027 more on March 18, 1925.
When Bordiga farted after digesting so much lasagna he caused a chain reaction in the ground that inadverately caused the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake, which resulted in an estimated 105,000 to 142,000 deaths, which also continued the chain reaction to lead onto the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami leading to the Fukushima nuclear disaster and generally Bordiga's life has indirectly done more damage to the bourgeois than the October revolution has done directly.
>>2396262In reality, Stalin killed hundreds of thousands of communists, Bordiga didn’t kill even a single person, therefore Stalin is more based
>>2396260Damn right bro, nigha should’ve denounced Hitler in front of the fascist cop that was interrogating him so he could be shot in the head and some impotent westoid leftoid a century later won’t feel heckin mad over something they don’t understand
As always dying because uhhhh based martyr moment not afraid is better than living lmao
>>2396334Brvtal Bordiga trvthnvke
If I call something redfash or Hitlerite, in reality I mean that in a positive manner so I can support it against AmeriKKKa
Tankies will never vnderstand…
>>2396042They were forced to create that flag at gunpoint when the KMT secret police informer interviewed them, you will never understand this, tankie
Critical support for Bordiga-Dengism
>>2396062based retard
>>2396092>That implies the bourgeois are revolutionary.they can be, classically under feudal conditions, such as the french revolution, but also under conditions of colonial occupation, such as it was during the chinese revolution
>>2398299feudalism -> capitalism -> socialism -> communism
not that hard to understand, do your own revolution faggot
>>2398729My head canon is that China is ultra-imperialist (anti-imperialist) in the Kautskyist sense.
Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Imperialism -> Ultra/Anti-Imperialism -> Socialism -> Communism
The only capitalists who will ever ally to build a transnational capitalist class opposed to imperialist draining of the periphery are the ones of the formerly colonized nations in the context of a society shaped by the national liberation struggle.
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