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When did minimalist aesthetics become associated with the right-wing all of a sudden?

I’m seeing so many social media posts claiming maximalist aesthetics like heavy makeup, brightly-coloured wardrobe, etc. are an “act of defiance” against “clean girl conservatism and MAGA fascism”, emphasizing that minimalism and the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot. This makes no sense to me. Being in my 30s, I remember when minimalism and anti-consumerism were largely associated with the radical left. Think Ad Busters and CrimethInc. Gen X and xennial comrades were extremely anti-consumerist and preached a minimalist lifestyle. At the same time, maximalist aesthetics were largely associated with the right, because they were seen as indicative of mindless consumerism and neoliberalism, e.g. right-wing women were the ones showing off their 200 different eyeshadows, 60 different pairs of shoes, and 27 different handbags. Today, it’s like the paradigms have flipped. Having 200 eyeshadows and 60 different pairs of shoes is now promoted as revelling against “Trump Era conformity”. The beige-ification of everything is entirely blamed on American politics becoming more conservative, despite the fact this was already going on years prior when Biden was in office. Hell, I’m even seeing progressive women complain about a “war on femininity” on the basis that Trump’s America wants to privilege traditional masculinity and wants to keep “girl-like” aesthetics that allegedly emphasize weakness out of public view (ironically, right-wing women have long complained about a “war on femininity” being lead by feminists and queer activists).

So what’s going on? My understanding is that this is another example of how liberals erroneously believe they can offset fascism by propping up neoliberal individualism. It’s liberals who are now pushing mindless consumerism as the antidote to Trump’s system, because they think being an individual who stands out will “defy” a conservative cultural shift. This is so pathetic I don’t even know where to start.

Am I full of shit, or are others seeing the same thing?

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>>2397466
You don’t see this as well?

>>2397464
The future Global USSR will launch a Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution that will see all Religion outlawed, all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas etc. bulldozed, all Religious clothing banned, and all Priests/Ministers/Rabbis/Monks/Nuns/Imams etc. forced to wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, while all Bourgeois Capitalist Roader Revisionists, Liberals, and Fascists will also be forced too wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, and all Women will be forced to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter), and Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/lipstick are banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity. And flatten the Reactionary Gender Binary (Artificial Wombs will accelerate this as well), while everyone will be forced to wear Mao Suits (Capitalist Business suits are Banned as well), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2397464
It's an attitude many people have independent of politics that right wingers are currently trying to use to their advantage. The 'Women hate how little it takes for us to be happy' meme leans into masculinity. There are appeals to stoicism and being tough living with less. Also funko pop consumerism gets associated with soyface retards happily eating the slop.
It's not just you seeing things.

>>2397497
Is stoicism necessarily right-wing though? I thought it predates the left/right political binary.

>>2397497
>There are appeals to stoicism and being tough living with less.
Isn’t this the “Malthusian degrowth” that Maupin and co. frequently whine about?

Under socialism there will be minimalist, maximalist, and whatever else places, because people will explore design as an artform whilst designing places, and this exploration will lead to better standards of design accross the board as people figure out how to make things more readable.

yet another "hey guys did anyone else nootice rightoids doing thing?" thread!

>>2397464
>Isn’t this the “Malthusian degrowth” that Maupin and co. frequently whine about?
"degrowth" means a reduction in the size of the economy or resource usage. "malthusian degrowth" would imply reduction of population. neither of those things are related to a spartan lifestyle or whatever

>>2397464
>It’s liberals who are now pushing mindless consumerism as the antidote to Trump’s system, because they think being an individual who stands out will “defy” a conservative cultural shift.

They've been doing this for a while now. "Buying lots of stuff is leftism, actually" is the natural evolution of the notion that leftism is about radical self-acceptance and being your authentic self or whatever. Punk and queer subcultures pretty much make up the bulk of the American left since American politics is incredibly right-wing.

>>2397464
>the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot.
What's the logic behind this?

Also, can we PLEASE FUCKING STOP using the term 'eugenics' to describe anything we don't like?

>>2397502
Stoicism is very convenient for the right wing. They love telling everyone they shouldn't change the world they should just change their mind about the world. Essentially it's telling slaves they should tolerate being a slave instead of trying to get out of it.

>>2397585
The idea is fascism was directly influenced by futurism so it has an overly clean, mechanical aesthetic. Many of these people don't think beyond the superficial propaganda therefore trashing your house and being messy is anti-fascist.

>>2397608
>so it has an overly clean, mechanical aesthetic.
Interestingly enough, so does communism, or at least the Soviet model.

>>2397556
>Punk and queer subcultures pretty much make up the bulk of the American left since American politics is incredibly right-wing.

Ironically, "queer" doesn't mean "leftist" anymore ever since a wave of LGBTQ people came out as vocal Trump supporters last decade.

>>2397616
For most of the 20th century it was the look of the future. Looking at the Futurism to fascism connection is missing where Futurism got it's ideas which was just ranting about how cool the advancement of technology is. Communists also like technology. Who the fuck want to dirt farm when a tractor can take care of it and you can fly to the moon instead?
Anyway, art students look at futurism-fascism propaganda out of context then pump that into pop culture which now gets picked up on by every video essayist on youtube.

>>2397585
Anyone who says "XYZ is eugenics" has a very warped understanding of what eugenics actually is. It's basically state enforcement of who is and isn't allowed to breed. Shit like beauty standards, prenatal vitamins, wanting to be fit/healthy, etc. aren't "eugenics" in the slightest.


>>2397585
>>the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot.
>What's the logic behind this?
Everything I've googled has said it has to do with the Clean Girl aesthetic being traditionalist and conservative with the emphasis being on natural beauty. Which is really fucking retarded. American politics has gotten to the point where libshits truly believe buying and wearing shit fascists don't like is somehow fighting fascism. I'm sorry, but you can't "blue eyeshadow" your way out of capitalism's collapse.

>>2397464
>I’m seeing so many social media posts claiming maximalist aesthetics like heavy makeup, brightly-coloured wardrobe, etc. are an “act of defiance” against “clean girl conservatism and MAGA fascism”, emphasizing that minimalism and the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot. This makes no sense to me. Being in my 30s, I remember when minimalism and anti-consumerism were largely associated with the radical left. Think Ad Busters and CrimethInc. Gen X and xennial comrades were extremely anti-consumerist and preached a minimalist lifestyle. At the same time, maximalist aesthetics were largely associated with the right, because they were seen as indicative of mindless consumerism and neoliberalism, e.g. right-wing women were the ones showing off their 200 different eyeshadows, 60 different pairs of shoes, and 27 different handbags. Today, it’s like the paradigms have flipped. Having 200 eyeshadows and 60 different pairs of shoes is now promoted as revelling against “Trump Era conformity”. The beige-ification of everything is entirely blamed on American politics becoming more conservative, despite the fact this was already going on years prior when Biden was in office. Hell, I’m even seeing progressive women complain about a “war on femininity” on the basis that Trump’s America wants to privilege traditional masculinity and wants to keep “girl-like” aesthetics that allegedly emphasize weakness out of public view (ironically, right-wing women have long complained about a “war on femininity” being lead by feminists and queer activists).

Protip: the people making these claims aren't Marxists but liberals. Like Kamala-supporting liberals.

>>2397464
Ah yes order and Cleaniness of Rome is now Fasc. On you Anarkokiddy,

>>2397617
>a wave of
I think you meant "within my twitter algorithm bubble." A thinktank running an small scale ad campaign isn't representative of an entire demographic.

>>2397476
No wonder why you're losing in the Devolped west. No one wants degerates who want to kill Cultures.

>>2397633
True, but those big names on Twitter and YouTube have influence. Plus, I know a handful of queer people who are Trump supporters. Their whole line of reasoning is: "Trump is too busy bringing industry back into America to care about repressing queer people", or "I'm one of the GOOD QUEERS who wants to defend Western Civilization so of course the GOP won't take MY rights away!".

>>2397556
>Punk and queer subcultures pretty much make up the bulk of the American left since American politics is incredibly right-wing.
Correct. If a genuinely leftist political party existed in the US the political discourse would be a hell of a lot different and leftist praxis would originate on the factory floor rather than in gentrifier apartments in Bushwick.

>>2397636
>No, muh stupid ritual made up a few hundred years ago where I put on magic robes and prance around is sacred to the nation that has only existed a few hundred years longer using a language that isn't even a thousand years old will last forever!

>>2397464
I don't know much about this topic but we definitely need to try fight the rise of consumerism, it feels like everyone is plowing all their money into luxury bullshit these days

>>2397641
>things will phase out at some point so why not destroy them now anyway

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>>2397638
>"Trump is too busy bringing industry back into America to care about repressing queer people"
<as theyre actively repressing queer people

how does one come to this conclusion?

>>2397651
Denialism, usually. Or else they feel like they have more loyalty to other policies of Trump's and ignore his administration's repression of queer people.

>>2397646
The "leftist" argument for consumerism (as I stated in my OP) is that it enables people to be individuals who can break out of the social conservatism and conformity of the MAGA shit. Liberals have literally embraced the stuff they used to preach against 15 years ago.

>>2397650
Sorry Christanity and Western Culture like In Northern Europe surived thousand year's It will clearly surive a Another 1000. Romano-Greek Culture is still around with Latin script and Archiecture.

>>2397608
>Many of these people don't think beyond the superficial propaganda therefore trashing your house and being messy is anti-fascist.

SHOWERING IS FASCIST! SOAP IS FASCIST! BASIC HYGIENE IS FASCIST!

>>2397464
The culture war is all bourgeois. Communists are no closer to the "left" than they are to the right. You can see this very clearly in the way the "left" all became nuclear war pilled natocels immediately when western capital's interests were challenged in a substantial way for the first time in 30 years in 2022.
What we see here is that "left" liberals are more emotionally invested in the old order, even if both sides are as conservative as each other. The right has the idea that they are building a new world. A more cruel world, whatever, but it's what they like. That idea falls apart immediately when they get in office, but they cling to it regardless. Liberals cling onto everything associated with their dying world instead, and consumerism is definitely a part of it.

>>2397650
Yeah why not? At least we don't need to keep things around if we don't want to.

>>2397657
>Christanity
You can pray in private just like Jesus told you to. Only Pharisees worshiped in public until the Catholics took over Rome then the bible got ignored until Martin Luther. Even then it took hundreds more of years of Christians murdering each other until the true Christians the Quakers emerged.
>Western Culture
Western culture has destroyed everything before it including itself. When was the last time you went to see some random criminal broken on the wheel? You see any rebels heads on pikes recently? It is completely different from even a few hundred years ago. We should continue to accelerate this tradition.
>Romano-Greek Culture is still around
And it's great! While going to see my favorite gladiator fight, I sacrificed an animal to Jupiter and a vestal virgin gave me a wink! I would be beaten to death by the pontifex maximus for her but I don't want her to be immured alive if we get caught. What do I do, bros?
>Latin script
It's good. Very simple to use compared to many language scripts. We should keep it.

>>2397664
>The right has the idea that they are building a new world. A more cruel world, whatever, but it's what they like. That idea falls apart immediately when they get in office, but they cling to it regardless. Liberals cling onto everything associated with their dying world instead, and consumerism is definitely a part of it.
The entire crux of the American left has become: "We must prop up the status quo to prevent something even worse from taking it over."

If I really wanted to be cynical, I would argue that Trump, covid-19, and Ukraine have completely wrecked the left, in that it made the American left cling to the same establishment it claimed to want to overthrow. The same left that used to be highly critical of mainstream institutions (including NATO) was now fully on board with them. I was stupid enough to believe that the Palestine movement would revive the left and it didn't.

>>2397667
>Even then it took hundreds more of years of Christians murdering each other until the true Christians the Quakers emerged.
I hope you're being sarcastic.

>>2397636
>>2397641
All Ethnic groups/Nations will get their own SSR or SFSR in the future Global USSR, and obviously the Native Language of each Ethnic group/Nation will be the Official Language of their SSR or SFSR, in line with the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , the massive caveat is that the Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution will purge the Cultures of each of these Ethnic groups/Nations of all their Reactionary Superstructural Elements, as I articulated in my post at >>2397476 , which details that Religion, Reactionary Clothing (ie. Religious Clothing, Bourgeois Business Suits, Women’s Dresses/Skirts, etc.), and Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity (ie. Women having Hair longer then a Pixie cut, Dresses/Skirts, Makeup/lipstick, etc. and eventually the Global USSR will liberate Women from the oppressive nature of childbirth through Artificial Wombs, which will finally fully flatten the Reactionary Gender Binary), will be Banned just like they were in Maoist China, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2397669
Sorry We won already. All of our Enemies of Nation state have failed.

>>2397706
This is why the Working class hates all leftist. Maybe retaining Religon, Culture, Family, Race, Gender and Many more. Plus The National Socialist Germany wanted Reeducaiton camps that were to purge Germany of social democrats and eventually theses camps like Dachau started the Holohoax and 271k deaths from typhus.

>>2397640
Yeah, on the factory floors. It'll happen in all of the 7 remaining American factories!

>>2397765
It’s still a problem that leftist politics in America is basically a subculture and not a real movement. When the best the US “left” has to offer is AOC and Mamdani you know there’s a problem.

>>2397720
If you won then why are nationalists constantly crying? It's nonstop complaining about their internal ethnic groups, eroding traditions, their local neighboring nations, all the past wars in history and the global economy.
Nationalists have so many complains they feel the need to turn fascist and kill everyone but themselves until they lose a war and then they do kill themselves.

>>2397464
> I’m seeing so many social media posts claiming maximalist aesthetics like heavy makeup, brightly-coloured wardrobe, etc. are an “act of defiance” against “clean girl conservatism and MAGA fascism”, emphasizing that minimalism and the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot

We call this liberalism, comrade.

>>2397464
>”the clean girl aesthetic predicted the rise of fascism”
Yeah, because the failing economy DEFINITELY didn’t.

>>2397765
Dude I love applying strategies from the 1930s as if nothing as changed in the last 100 years! I'll go give a rousing speech at the textile mill to empower our fellow workers!

People who hate on minimalism are incredibly stupid.

>>2398132
Still mad over the spanish civil war.

>>2397706
I challenged you on this about a month ago, but I still find it crazy how you lump all of spanish america together. What's your reasoning

Minimalist aesthetics are feminine, and all right-wingers are inverts.

>idpol but with buildings and fashion

>>2397765
America is becoming re-proletarianized.

>>2397464
“Clean girl” only exists on TikTok. Why are we even debating this?

>>2397464
>I’m seeing so many social media posts claiming maximalist aesthetics like heavy makeup, brightly-coloured wardrobe, etc. are an “act of defiance” against “clean girl conservatism and MAGA fascism”, emphasizing that minimalism and the “clean girl” aesthetic are indicative of fascism, purity, eugenics, and whatnot.
Wait, what? I thought it was the other way around. The "clean girl" look is liberal, and there has been a whole thing about garish "Republican makeup" and heavy use of plastic surgery by right-wing women and *that's* fascism and eugenics-based, and liberal girls and gay men on TikTok were parodying it.

Mar-A-Lago Face

>A Palm Beach plastic surgeon said his female clients are asking him to make them resemble Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka, as the "Mar-a-Lago face" trend shows no sign of going out of style. "People will come in and say, "I want to look like her, I like her eyes, I like her nose, I like her lips,'" Dr Norman Rowe told the Daily Mail.


>The "Mar-a-Lago face" has become a must-have accessory for Donald Trump's inner circle, as "both the leader and followers compete to inject as much unsightliness as possible into the American field of vision", said Salon.


>The Maga aesthetic embraced by some high-profile supporters combines "aggressive plastic surgery, fake tan, and make-up spackled on so thick that it would crack – if the fillers hadn't already paralysed their faces".

https://theweek.com/health/mar-a-lago-face-the-hottest-maga-plastic-surgery-trend

>>2399604
>Republican makeup" and heavy use of plastic surgery by right-wing women and *that's* fascism and eugenics-based,
What? How is a makeup look “eugenics”? FFS are we pretending everything is “eugenics” now?

I find it very telling how the radical left used to promote their ideology in the basis of shattering and freeing the world from bourgeois/Protestant morality.

Now, the left (at least in America) feels the constant need to appeal to bourgeois/Protestant morality.

“Kale salads and skincare products are EUGENICS!” — petty moralism.

>>2397476
Should put all men in skirts and liberate us from the chains of bourgeois masculinity you TERF.

>>2401575
What is “TERF” about abolishing Reactionary Bourgeois Femininity, considering I said nothing about banning Sex Changes (I strongly support Trans rights), 🤔?

>>2399604
>>2399606
Shit like this disgusting “Mar-a-Lago Face” fetish that turns Young Women into living ”Barbie Dolls” for Perverted Old Bourgeois Men is irrefutable evidence in favor of Reactionary Bourgeois Femininity (ie. Women having Hair longer then a Pixie cut, Dresses/Skirts, Makeup/lipstick, etc. and eventually the Global USSR will liberate Women from the oppressive nature of childbirth through Artificial Wombs, which will finally fully flatten the Reactionary Gender Binary) being Banned just like it was in Maoist China, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>When did minimalist aesthetics become associated with the right-wing all of a sudden?
When you made this thread.


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