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>>2400776
what I worry about is we'll just endlessly cycle between the two Rooseveltisms (Teddy's Trust Busting To Prevent Monopoly Capital and Franklin's Succdem Concessions to Prevent Revolution) followed by neoliberal rollbacks and we'll never be able to escape capitalism because the country has goldfish memory. But maybe dedollarization will prevent that from being possible. one can only hope.

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How long do you think it'll be until Trump has a full schizo meltdown on live TV over being questioned about Epstein one too many times?

>>2400788
He'll just remind everyone that he was almost killed by the deep state and that all the photos with epstein are deepfakes and we're the hottest country that has never won so hard and everyone will forget

>>2400789
I dont know if it's going to be that easy, most people are seeing all this shit he's trying to throw at the wall as the pathetic deflections they are, and he can only sue so many newspapers who keep showing more of his ties to Epstein. I dont think much will come of it, but I do believe that if he keeps being pestered about it he's going to have some kind of live crashout akin to video related except quite possibly even funnier

>>2400787
Welcome to the era of the third party. Ross Perot won 11% of the vote all the way back in 1992. Hate the man all you like, you can't dismiss Elon and his third party winning within the next three elections, you just cant. The reps and dems are broke and can't compete with the worlds richest man. Some numbers were released earlier this week, the republicans have 81 million in reserve spending and the democrats have just 15 million. Its so fucking over

>>2400776
Sorry to say but Mamdani won't be saving you.

This time next year, you'll be warring yet another MENA country, and probably sponsoring your side of another African proxy war.

And you still won't have healthcare.

Repeat that for the next couple of decades until all the Monopoly money runs out and the USA "collapses"

Even then, you'll just reverse your relationship with the EU. And fool yourself that adopting their more socdem standards is socialism, even if it's just done to subordinate your industry in the still very much liberal economy. But China will approve and you'll paint everything red.

So how did NYC-DSA respond to the AOC debacle or are they keeping quiet?

>>2400787
I think without dollar hegemony the possibility of rightist response to the contradictions of succdem reforms without massive backlash won't really be there

>>2400796
Nobody's expecting Mamdani to be the second coming of Lenin, but people are cautiously optimistic over the rising approval of radical leftism among the masses and combined with the increased proletarianization of the country as a whole this sentiment will only increase. Doomer shit about how we'll "never have a revolution" is unhelpful

>>2400796
You will never be proletarian. All the third worlders laugh behind your back when you march around with a red beret with black/red flag pins on it, etc etc

>>2400804
What retarded analysis. Have you ever heard of Purchasing Power Parity?

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New thread, new reminder that communism WILL win, America WILL have a revolution with broad support, and billions WILL smile

>>2400787
I think the capacity or willingness to give concessions just isn't there, the current generation of porkies would rather try to throw out the rule book and crack down than ever do New Deal 2.

Another thread another reminder that communism isn’t a goal but the real movement that will aufhebung the current state of things.

>>2400795
americans are so retarded. when Trump sold himself as an "outsider" and "not a politician" I reminded everyone that he's a billionaire, and basically the guy who bribes politicians. now we've got elon saying that he, the world's richest man, and a south african immigrant, is going to represent the "middle 80%" of americans. what a sick joke. people will fall for it too. burgers literally think to themselves "damn I'm sick of these bribe taking politicians, let's replace them with the people giving the bribes so they can govern directly instead of indirectly. that's the most anti-establishment answer I can think of."

>>2400813
This. The new material conditions mean that New Deal 2 Bretton-Woods social democracy is no longer viable. Not even viable from a democratic consensus even since liberal democracies belong to the neoliberals. But uniquely the neoliberals don’t hate the welfare state, they love it and have seen the welfare state effectively save them in ‘08 and ‘20. So what exists today is a social democracy for the rich as opposed to social democracy for the poor and working class of the 20th century.

tonkoid status?

>>2400804
I think that, dollar hegemony or not (fucked as the US is if that ever happens), the world has yet many many years of liberalism left, especially international trade.

Which IMO means that the USA/NATO is forever married to neoliberalism, to it's ultimate consequences. Maybe a boon for future revolutionaries, which won't be undermined by reformists. However, line must always go up, and domestic exploitation is the means in a waning hegemony abroad, or the capital will go elsewhere. Which is not to say that "peaceful" liberalism is possible, but the US may be on the clock to reassert US hegemony before it becomes unaffordable.

Neoliberalism will not end until you end it. Waiting for the system to collapse on it's own means that you will be waiting forever. You have to actually take action against the state and physically degrade it's capability to rule or it will remain stable forever.

>>2400820
regions will still ship goods internationally under socialism because you have different climates and different natural resources and not every region will be able to get everything it needs through self sufficiency alone. International shipping called "trade" =/= capitalism necessarily

>>2400826
>"trade" =/= capitalism
so socialism means commodity production and exchange?

>>2400829
they're not commodities if they're not produced for exchange value but they still need to be shipped due to climate and environmental differences making their production not possible everywhere.

>>2400830
>they're not commodities if they're not produced for exchange value
so its barter trade then?

>>2400831
regions will provide each other with reciprocal aid based on their unique characteristics is what I'm getting. I put trade in scare quotes because it's not really trade but you will still need shipping. It's not like socialism is when every country becomes an isolationist hermit forever.

>>2400833
if its reciprocal, then surely it is measured by an equal value between goods? and what decides what needs to be traded for?

>>2400829
you're never gonna get rid of trade under global socialism for the simple fact that crops only grow in certain places

>>2400836
why would you want to get rid of trade to begin with? because you superstitiously believe in an entity called "value" which haunts objects which you seek to exorcise?

>>2400807
Wrong. Some proletarians exist in ameriKKKa

>>2400824
>>2400820
neoliberalism is dead. protectionism took its place. open borders? free market? limited government intervention? 'rule of law'? its all gone and never coming back

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So any of y'all know anything about Active Club Networks? If not, you should, because outside of ICE the next big far right paramilitary forces are going to come from these

Spawning from Robert Rundo's "Rise Above Movement", Active Clubs can be summed up as decentralized neo-nazi cells which as the name implies engage in activism and training. This is done for the purpose of cultivating a "warrior spirit" for the upcoming race war. A lot of Atomwaffen members and other explicitly accelerationist terrorist groups have folded into these Active Clubs, and they're also being promoted by groups such as the Patriot Front. By all accounts they're the next "big thing" in far right radicalization, and unlike their aforementioned Atomwaffen predecessors these guys actually have some degree of discipline and opsec and are growing day by day, existing as a "shadow or standby army" for far right insurrectionary activity. Remember the 2024 UK riots? You can thank local Active Clubs for organizing that one. They're primarily concentrated in the United States, but extensions also exist not only in the UK but in Finland and Russia

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/white-nationalist-active-clubs-1234835015/

Thoughts? Unlike other far right LARP groups these guys seem to actually have the potential to be really dangerous. Wherever there are far right groups organizing in your area, chances are there's an Active Club they all coordinate with

>>2400841
>neoliberalism is dead
the fuck you talking about? trump's party has just passed a full project amending 60 modifications on working places that would significantly reduce US working conditions, moreover:
milei privatized water and sanitary water utilities in Argentina.
neoliberalism hasn't died, it has inbred with protectionism where porkies see fit.

>>2400841
The tariffs aren’t even protectionism, they’re being used as an extortion tool against U.S vassal state and a way to pass all tax burden onto consumers and the working class.

>>2400846
not that guy but I think it's dead in the sense that it's not really able to govern in a way that can renew its legitimacy. the increased political instability the world over and the increased need to use force to maintain things abroad and at home is a threat to it but it can't grant the reforms necessary to reduce these threats, in other words its a death spiral. So in terms of having a future it's dead, it will take years for parties like the democrats to get the memo as they still have the capacity to fight off any alternatives, but not to stabilize their own position.

>>2400852
>pass all tax burden onto consumers and the working class
Wrong. Youre retarded

>>2400842
They must get a lot of funding, we really need to start building duel power. We need to find a normie entry point, I think CPUSAanon was right in we need some sports clubs.

>>2400860
Is duel power when we all go duel with the police on main street and get arrested

>>2400846
they were doing that before neoliberalism. I don't wanna put too much stock into a term that was always fake to begin with but the characteristics that defined neoliberalism no longer exist here in the USA. for example Trump just nationalized an American company for the first time in this countries history. Yes its still being championed by europe and south america but its a dying ideology that only really existed to serve the american unipolar world
https://www.cato.org/news-releases/trump-just-quietly-nationalized-us-steel
>>2400852
It's still protectionism in the sense that America is attempting to shift away from a consumer based economy and towards a manufacturing based one

>>2400809
You'll never guess what upholds the purchasing power of the dollar

>>2400861
It's when you pedal a tandem bike with your comrade

>>2400860
Sports are good, they're certainly an easy way to bring people together and build community. The problem is the left especially in the west still has an aversion to appearing "machismo", which is understandable but something we do need to overcome.

Maybe in conjunction with "community defense" and the like, we can simply frame it as cultivating "positive masculinity"? Channeling the righteous anger of the youth into growing their minds and bodies so they can better defend the more vulnerable amongst them against the forces of the state. Youth outreach is another thing we have to work on, Active Clubs apparently get a lot of their numbers by recruiting from high schools where disaffected teens can get swept up in the far right pipeline simply out of a desire for community and a sense of belonging. It should be trivial for us to do the same considering communism is in fact about community and sees violence as a means to an end rather than something to be pursued for its own sake.

>>2400816
Same dumb shit as thinking prostitutes are a problem but Johns aren't

>>2400872
There would be no johns if there were no prostitutes therefore johns are secondary to the principle factor of prostitutes.

>>2400875
>there would be no demand if there were no supply
look at this retard not understanding how feedback loops and chicken and egg problems work

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Look I know it's fun to argue with trolls about what a commodity is or what percentage of Americans deserve to die, but I think we can actually accomplish something here and put our heads together to figure out how to counter Active Clubs with our own "standby army". Currently while the forces of the radical left are probably more numerous, they are extremely divided over sectarian bullshit. Other than those community defense councils, mutual aid groups while important usually only provide passive help rather than active…well, action.

Should I just make a new thread for this? As an American I am primarily focused on America but I suppose if we're going to care about internationalism and all that jazz encouraging the formation of aligned leftist defense militias in other countries cant hurt

>>2400879
Supply and demand do not apply. If the root is destroy then there is no tree. Youre the dumbass. Saying that johns must be destroyed, not prostitutes, to destroy prostitution is like saying ptoletarians must be destroyed, not capitalist, to destroy capitalism. In both cases you support the problem by obfuscating the principal factor of causation of said problem therefore you are wrong.

>>2400871
This article makes zero sense, it says trump nationalized the steel industry in the headline but goes on to site a blog post about Biden approving a merger(doesn’t say when) between nippon steel. This isn’t protectionism because maybe one company got nationalized according to the standards of the Cato institute.

>>2400871
Honestly I’ve think we need to attract people that don’t have an aversion to being outside and neurotically try to calculate if they’re project to much machismo. God bless those nerds and all that, I’m sympathetic and they’ll always have a place but we need to start building fronts that can be used to recruit and mobilize a mass movement. Same way cults operate. Create a front group for sports, Bible studies, outdoor hiking, community service, anime clubs, ect ect. Then create secondary groups to funnel more capable and radical people into. You start off playing soccer on Saturday’s and before you know it your dick is strapped to an E-reader and you’re being grilled on how clear you are. Except ours you’ll be reading Marx and strategizing.

>>2400868
Okay cool. Third world countries can afford commodities for cheap compared to 20 years ago.

So what did the NYC-DSA say about AOC?

>>2400893
Didn't the DSA candidates vote against the Pissrael genocide fund

>>2400896
Which candidates?

>>2400885
Here's a better one then. Trump nationalized US Steel by introducing a 'golden share' which a few other countries around the world use like Brazil (Petrobras) and Russia (Rosneft)
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/did-trump-effectively-nationalize-us-steel-with-his-golden-share/

>>2400885
Right exactly, I think leftists especially in America should embrace the Bakuninist ethos of organizing in that rather than purely political groups we should be organizing conspiracies. Sports clubs, gaming clubs, the works, to serve as the public face for activist groups that will take part in direct action and community defense, which in turn will serve as the outer ring of a "secret society" with the goal of spreading the World Revolution. I think that would get shit accomplished a lot faster and do a lot more meaningful work than constantly trying to form miniscule vanguard parties or jumping immediately into the armed resistance phase as some people want to do. The inner circle can serve as an ideological vanguard while the outer circle will have looser requirements and can set up the front organizations who's only ideological requirements will be "do you think we should improve society for as many people as possible?"

>>2400883
>the prostitute is like the bourgeoisie, the john is like the proletarian
retarded analogy. the pimp or brothel owner is the bourgeoisie while a prostitute is like a freelance contractor and a john is just a consumer of a service.

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>>2400863
except you are being gaslighted, and that's not a nationalization. yes, the ridiculous cato claims that having oversight = nationalization with the "golden share". that's ridiculous. Nippon Steel is the sole owner of US steel.

>>2400891
yeah because the world reserve currency is both inflating rapidly and losing relevance

trump will never nationalize anything, risking the demokkrapers libs will call it shhhoshialishums or whatever. see Jared Polis strawman when covid started and Trump slightly suggested to nationalize pharma companies.
you
will
never
have
companies
nationalized
under the doupoly
and just more and more privatized things.

>>2400837
what are you some kind of exploitation-denying lolbertarian

>>2400904
>Nippon Steel is the sole owner of US steel
Not really an owner if you can't sell it without asking permission first

>>2400907
how do we measure value in laboratory conditions?
what is value made of? what does it look like?

>>2400891
Ok good

>>2400902
>>2400902
Wrong. There is no analogy other than this:
Prostitute is the root of prostitution and capitalist is root of capitalism.
>prostitute is freelance contracter
Then they are bourgeoisie and they must be destroyed.
>john is consumer
Consumers are not producers. Consumers as a class are bourgeoisie

>>2400909
They couldn't buy it without permission either. How is the golden share changing that?

Or we could keep arguing about the definition of trade and commodities for eternity, I guess that's good too. At least when we're being loaded up onto trucks for concentration camps we'll have the smug satisfaction of winning internet arguments


>>2400897
It was only Tlaib. I thought Ilhan Omar was part of DSA as well.


>>2400911
bro is asking to measure a social relation like it's a physical substance 💀
>The value of commodities is the very opposite of the coarse materiality of their substance, not an atom of matter enters into its composition. Turn and examine a single commodity, by itself, as we will, yet in so far as it remains an object of value, it seems impossible to grasp it. If, however, we bear in mind that the value of commodities has a purely social reality, and that they acquire this reality only in so far as they are expressions or embodiments of one identical social substance, viz., human labour, it follows as a matter of course, that value can only manifest itself in the social relation of commodity to commodity. In fact we started from exchange value, or the exchange relation of commodities, in order to get at the value that lies hidden behind it. We must now return to this form under which value first appeared to us.

Leavitt live with Tulsi right now.

>>2400913
>Wrong.
oh it's you. why are you CPUSA flag now? to confuse people?

>>2400919
>An arms embargo means keeping all arms out of the hands of a genocidal military, no exceptions. This is why we oppose Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ vote against an amendment that would have blocked $500 million in funding for the Israeli military’s Iron Dome program. While the Congresswoman voted against the defense appropriations bill itself, voting against funding for the imperialist military-industrial complex and the Israeli genocide, we were further deeply disappointed by her clarifying statement on her position on the Iron Dome. Along with other US-funded interceptor systems, the Iron Dome has emboldened Israel to invade or bomb no less than five different countries in the past two years.
>Providing any aid to Israel as they carry out a genocide with U.S. support is completely unacceptable. This is even more true of military aid of any kind. Any funds that go to Israel assist this brutal genocide. Any support for Israel legitimizes its eliminationist campaign against the Palestinian people. The fact that Representative Ocasio-Cortez acknowledges that Israel is carrying out this genocide makes her support for military aid all the more disappointing and incongruous. We urge the representative to continue voting against the Iron Dome, whether it is part of a larger defense spending bill or as a stand-alone bill.

very pleasantly surprised

>>2400914
Changing what?

>From the same February 2024 poll 31% of American Jews 18-34 said they believed Hamas' reasons for fighting Israel are valid (16% across all Jewish adults)

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>>2400920
>value is not material
right, so "value" does not exist
marx's idea is that value does not exist in objects, but magically exists *between* objects, like the law of gravity. gravity can be measured in singular objects however, while value to marx is a pure immanence, constituted by exchange. this isnt a scientific idea, but a philosophical spectre given from hegel's idealism.
>So far no chemist has ever discovered exchange value either in a pearl or a diamond
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm#S4

>>2400923
He's absolutely doing it as a wrecker. Guaranteed fed. Report all sightings.

>>2400933
>social relations do not exist because theyre relations between objects
>behavior does not exist because its not an object
>thoughts and minds do not exist

atomism is vulgar materialism, not even retarded positivists take it seriously anymore

>le spook


reading a fucking book

>>2400933
>only objects exist, not the relations between them
what

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meanwhile, in the 51st state of the US, the Knesset voted in a blunt majority to annex the West Bank.

>BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard announces she has officially referred Barack Obama to the DOJ for criminal prosecution

>>2400928
I'm saying the reason they're getting the golden share is because they already have power to control sales of the company even without it. What is the gold share changing in that regard.

>>2400946
What law would they even cite (that wouldn't also catch all of them)?

>>2400942
>social relations do not exist because theyre relations between objects
"social relations" are physical forces. remember my gravity example? we can measure the physicality of "action at a distance" and relate this to a singular expression of gravity in atomic influence. the source of planetary orbit thus relates to the singularity of matter, and doesnt "emerge" from the void.
>behavior does not exist because its not an object
its made of objects
>thoughts and minds do not exist
you mean brains? you can manipulate someone's mind using magnets on their head.
>atomism is vulgar materialism, not even retarded positivists take it seriously anymore
whats the alternative theory?
>reading a fucking book
which book?
>>2400943
>only objects exist, not the relations between them
you can measure "relations"; theyre called physical forces. you cant measure value, so it doesnt exist.

>>2400934
Im not wrecking anything. Your false reports are low effort wreckings

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>>2400945
oh shit source?

>>2400945
they'dve done it anyway, vote or no

>>2400952
>you cant measure value, so it doesnt exist.
Wrong dumbass. Value is measured billions of times a day. Value exists. You stupid wrecking piece of shit. Read marx. One coat is y meter of linen

>>2400952
>value isn't real, stop fighting capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, and genocide
No.

>>2400946
>gets to blame doj when nothing happens

>>2400952
Report all imperialist pieces of shits on sight from now on everyone. They destroy every thread with low effort denial of their parasitism


>>2400947
the americans have legal authority over their own citizens and companies, but if Japan bought US Steel, a golden share would be what it would take for that control to remain. thats why its effectively a nationalization

>>2400964
So trump nationalized US Steel and sends all the profits to japan??

>>2400964
So you're saying it was effectively already nationalized it, then they denationalized it, then renationalized it, but under foreign ownership?



>>2400967
Yes, you're saying they are effectively nationalized because the government has control over the sale of the company. If that is what makes a company "effectively nationalized," then the company was already "effectively nationalized."

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>>2400946
>Mfw Obamna is the only U$ president to get arrested for war crimes.

>>2400961
>"EVERYONE IS BOURGEOIS, YOU'RE ALL IMPERIALISTS, I AM THE LAST PROLETARIAN!!!"
bitch

>>2400971
well that's the best way to keep the idpol matrix going "how come when the BLACK MAN does war crimes he gets prosecuted but the WHITE BOYS don't?" will become a more important question than "wait why are we doing war crimes?"

>>2400970
lol you assume thats the only thing a golden share does. LMAO

>>2400958
>Value is measured billions of times a day.
by which tools? radiometers? microscopes?
>one coat is y meter of linen
we dont buy coats with linen. surely you mean that 1 coat = x dollars? that is its price, which has no tangibility if no one accepts its proposition anyway. 1 coat = x dollars? says who?
>>2400959
>>2400961
>if you dont believe my superstition, you support genocide
very rational and sane.

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>>2400977
So what else does it do? You were the one that said not being able to sell without permission was what made something "effectively nationalized."
>>2400909
>Not really an owner if you can't sell it without asking permission first

>>2400966
Its brilliant because Monopolist capitalist nationalization is bad. Instead of the entire amerikkkan bourgeoisie owning it like USPS the ameriKKKan bourgeoisie owns nothing so this is really good

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>>2400978
bro you know money is just a medium of exchange to express that commodities are commensurable due to requiring a similar amount of labor time on average to produce. stop playing dumb. the money is just convenient medium of exchange to avoid the double coincidence of wants required by barter. but as a store of value money gets hoaraded and accumulates as money capital which is used to buy means of production which workers are employed to operate in exchange for wages amounting to less than their labor produces. Stop playing dumb. Go back to the /political economy/ thread why are you even disputing value in /usapol/ right now, what the fuck

>>2400860
>>2400871
>Sports are good, they're certainly an easy way to bring people together and build community. The problem is the left especially in the west still has an aversion to appearing "machismo", which is understandable but something we do need to overcome.

See, that's why I think Soccer and Basketball would be both good sports to do. They're relatively inexpensive, they're based on teamwork, you could easily have co-ed teams. It's not "violent machismo" in the same sense as, say, American Football or MMA. Things like knowing how to move as a team are important to any mass action. And in the case of the Fascist BUF, they turned their boxing and rugby clubs into the basis of their Blackshirts/Mosley's personal guard, it's a much easier transition than just telling a bunch of leftists (some of which may barely have interacted with their comrades before) that they have to do community defense now.

One of the big flaws of the Right, I'd believe, is that they would probably lean more towards individualistic combat sports like MMA. And while I think there's no reason Left Wing people shouldn't get into MMA, that's kind of an individualistic sort of violence. It's all about you dueling one guy in the arena. There've been issues with getting UFC fighters to talk about unionizing precisely 'cause it's such an individualistic sport. Team sports would be good for the Left and give us an advantage.

>>2400981
I would feel some smug satisfaction if the Adults in The Room who didn't feel the need to prosecute Trump after 1/6 thinking he was cooked, and then did the impotent 1/6 Committee purely to try to hurt him politically but with no follow through, and then finally tried to charge him in 2024 thinking it was an effective campaign tactic to smear him, without ever really trying to make him feel consequence and who themselves are insulated from any material consequences of their failures were to face the inside of a prison cell. Maybe that will make them understand that they should have run a functioning fucking justice system in the first place instead of empty and annoying theater.

>>2400982
The ameriKKan bourgeoisie gets cucked and forced to give free gibs to a company they dont even own

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fuentes on CNN

>>2400982
maybe read the agreement before typing dickhead. the golden share works exactly like golden shares in Russia and Brazil, there are three board members, The President chooses one and blocks appointments of the other two. All board and executive members stay American and speak english. Nippon makes commitments to never offshore production and maintain specific steel quotas, all sorts of minute shit. Nippon will provide certain capital requirements to meet these goals. fuck off

>>2400991
i hate it here

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>>2400971
Except he's not, he's being arrested on bullshit coup charges because it's cheating when a black man wins the presidency

>>2400991
first iranian state tv, now cnn. crazy

>>2400800
civil war (vast majority of DSAers are in favor of censoring her though)

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If I hear any of you quipping "where's the beef" we're delaying the revolution by another two weeks

>>2400934
He has written "troll" all over his post man. Please have some bare minimum reading comprehension

>>2400952
show me a memory. show me the part of the brain that a memory exists in, show me the memory insidr it, and explain to me how it got there. remember your own standard that only simple, measurable physical mechanisms are real, everything else is fake. how is it that i can remember what swimming in a lake feels and looks like when im not swimming in a lake?

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>>2401009
isnt that a bad thing? rightoids surely want less balck and brown third world people on the planet?

I'm convinced, this Epstein business is absolutely causing the next civil war.

>>2400992
You are the one that made the claim retard.

>>2401013
A fitting end for the American Nightmare

>>2400998
Wrong. 2020 was stolen. 2020 was a coup. Chicken come home to roost

>>2400934
>He's absolutely doing it as a wrecker. Guaranteed fed. Report all sightings.
Better yet, you people could just stop engaging with this blatant bad-faith actor altogether and deny him his (Yous).

>>2401013
>this Epstein business is absolutely causing the next civil war
US settlers already had a pedocracy civil war about the right to rape enslaved children

>>2401003
>>2401016
?

>>2401009
They only want to dump the commodities onto third-world markets to crash their contraceptive markets. this is good

LIVE: Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on the Middle East

>>2401018
First as a tragedy, then as a farce

>>2401014
>started an argument he knew nothing about
many such cases

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Average american

>>2401024
Paul Bunyan is a proletarian icon along with John Henry and Casey Jones

>>2401023
You are the one who made the argument and I simply asked you about it and then you turned around and changed it and faulted me for only replying to what you said.

Hey I’m a Super Communist. Ask me anything.

>“We’re gonna get the drug prices down. Not 30% or 40%, which would be great. Not 50% or 60%. No, we’re gonna get them down 1,000%, 600%, 500%, 1,500%,” Trump said at a Republican dinner. “Numbers that are not even thought to be achievable.”

>>2401017
you are the bad faith ones. he did nothing but make sense and you dogpiled him with retarded slander.

>>2401028
When will the revolution happen?

>>2401028
What are your superpowers?

>>2401031
You're literally him though, I just saw you switch connections.

>>2400971
not for war crimes, but for colluding the Russiagate hoax.
Obama will be declared unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security by Trump 😩.
libs will say this is racism.

>>2400933
>"value" does not exist
"the soul doesn't exist" - Armchair pseud PMC psychologists and psychiatrists and cognitive scientists at the Edge Foundation who love to hear Jeffrey Epstein's eugenics theories

>>2401038
I WILL EAT YOUR SOUL

>>2401025
Unironically the John Henry segment of that old Disney animation about American Folklore was the most badass one. It was like a fucking shonen or something. Just pure power of man.

>>2401032
When I say it will.
>>2401034
When I jerk off and jizz, my jizz causes everything it touches to become communist.

>>2401046
you have a proletarian duty to hit on people in natsoc femboy discord servers

>>2401049
They are all my cum dumpsters. Or as I would put it, they are repositories of the fruits of my noble proletarian labors.

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>>2401046
>When I jerk off and jizz, my jizz causes everything it touches to become communist.
please make sure to attend the next CPI conference

>>2400998
>it's cheating when a black man wins war criminal in chief
well, yes.
see >>2400975

>>2400991
CNN boosting Fuentes is like Bibi boosting Hamas to undermine Fatah. It's going to come back and bite them.

>>2400981
They really want to get off this Epstein thing. Trump's most delusional supporters want him to do The Storm where there will be vindication at last. And then Pam Bondi said, no, there's nothing there, we're not releasing the files.

The faithful were denied The Storm. They were promised revelations of adrenochrome parties and trials and executions, and now nothing. That is what they're angry about. It's like being denied the end of the world or the Second Coming of Christ. There's supposed to be a Storm that will start the battle of Armageddon against the liberal communists. This did not happen.

Additionally, Trump handled the non-release in such a way to provoke suspicion. DON'T LOOK! NOTHING TO SEE HERE! HEY, LOOK OVER THERE, SQUIRREL!

>>2400817
The welfare state was literally created by extending junker (upper class) privileges to the common worker. Junker privileges have always existed in capitalism.

>>2401046
Wrong.
>>2401032
The Great Proletarian Revolution has been in motion since 1918.
>>2401034
Any Communist skilled in dialectical materialism can predict the future

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Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files
https://www.wsj.com/politics/justice-department-told-trump-name-in-epstein-files-727a8038
>When Justice Department officials reviewed what Attorney General Pam Bondi called a “truckload” of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein earlier this year, they discovered that Donald Trump’s name appeared multiple times, according to senior administration officials. 

>In May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files, the officials said. Many other high-profile figures were also named, Trump was told. Being mentioned in the records isn’t a sign of wrongdoing.


>…The meeting set the stage for the high-profile review to come to an end. Bondi had said in February that Epstein’s client list was “sitting on my desk right now to review.” Trump said last week in response to a journalist’s question that Bondi hadn’t told him that his name was in the files.


>…“This is another fake news story, just like the previous story by The Wall Street Journal,” said White House communications director Steven Cheung.


>…FBI Director Kash Patel has privately told other government officials that Trump’s name appeared in the files, according to people close to the administration.

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>>2400985
>money is just a medium of exchange
yes
>to express that commodities are commensurable
yes
<due to requiring a similar amount of labor time on average to produce.
completely unfounded nonsense statement. i like this claim though, because it is falsifiable; if commodities are able to be commensurated on a basis which excludes relative labour time, then it proves that labour time is NOT the measure of value. lets take the example of a wine bottle. aged wine is always worth more than new wine, despite the fact that no labour is added to it; the same is true for land. in this case, scarcity measures value, not labour time. this means that as a rule, labour time is NOT the determinate factor of price. price is determined by supply and demand, which scarcity also interacts with. this is entirely empirically true, while you depend on dogma.
>>2401008
>show me a memory
i dont have the hardware to access other people's encrypted memories. we are getting close to digitally visualising internal sensation though, by translating brain waves into properly pixelated representations. in the future, we will be able to see our own dreams in waking life. lets say that one day, we will be able to see what you think, will you then accept materialism?
>only simple, measurable physical mechanisms are real, everything else is fake
immeasurable things are unreal, yes - but luckily, all phenomena is potentially measurable (quantifiable, simulable), even the bare imagination.

>>2401062
>The faithful were denied The Storm. They were promised revelations of adrenochrome parties and trials and executions, and now nothing. That is what they're angry about. It's like being denied the end of the world or the Second Coming of Christ. There's supposed to be a Storm that will start the battle of Armageddon against the liberal communists. This did not happen.

Y'know I think someone on here said they wondered what the "When Prophecy Fails" moment would look like for Q-anon/Trump, but I think the important thing to consider is that when the moment that coined the phrase happened, the preacher in question claimed that "Acktually, we were so pious and good that God decided not to destroy the Earth."

Trump is doing the more retarded thing of saying, basically
>"Epstein? Who's Epstein? I don't know the guy. I never knew the guy. Why do we care about him? Aren't you bored?"

Like it'd be if these doomsday preachers turned around and claimed that they never said there was gonna be the second coming on May 16th or whatever. It isn't just "Oh, golly gee, I was wrong". It's straight up "I never said I was gonna do that."

And when the thing in question is literally this manichean struggle against "the cabal" and you make it obvious to everyone with a pulse that you're going to protect said cabal… well, fuck dude. It'd be like finding out you thought you were worshipping the second coming but you really fell for the antichrist. The current Q-Cope is "Trump's doing this to get the whole world talking about Epstein, and then he's gonna turn around and release the files once the Dems dig themselves a big enough hole." But he's obviously not gonna do that. He's in the fucking files. He's Epstein's buddy.

>>2400834
The profits from international trade would be held and redistributed by a semi-independent body of common workers?

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kek

>>2401055
Game recognize game.
>>2401065
You’re wrong.

LIVE: UN Security Council meeting on the Middle East

>>2401063
uygha what the fuck are you talking about?

>>2401071
>profits
in socialism?

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>>2401024
at least I can rest easy knowing that my love, Carmen San Diego, is real, wherever she is

Prosecuting BaraKKK Hu$$ein Osama is good and I hope trump succeeds.

>>2401083
This but for acceleration reasons

>>2401083
This but for war crimes.

>>2401083
Justice for Iraq and Libya is long overdue


>>2401068
You are utterly wrong.
>lets take the example of a wine bottle. aged wine is always worth more than new wine, despite the fact that no labour is added to it; the same is true for land.
Wrong. The costs of storage of wine barrel, which demands human labor, adds value of bottled wine.
>the same is true for land.
Wrong. Land value is determined by improvement labor (clearing, irrigation, roads) Social labor proximity and reproduction cost (fertile soil depletion demands fertilizer labor). Pure land is worthless—Amazon rainforest acreage has no exchange-value until laborers access/chop/develop it.

>>2401062
Only communist would release the Epstein files because only communist wouldn’t be implicated. The right will never understand, the same people telling you to hate communism, are the same people that tell you to love Israel and fuck kids.

honkoid status?

>>2401046
>When I jerk off and jizz, my jizz causes everything it touches to become communist.
Iron Felix needs these superpowers. also, that it's transferred from pictures to reality.

>>2401078
Yes. The People's Profits. Society without profits is stagnant and dead like capitalism when ROP hit zero. Society with socialized profits is socialism.

>>2401068
Storing aged wine is labor, cultivating land for use is labor. Sorry no stupid example you give won’t have labor particulars interacting with it. Even if it was aged wine found on the ground. It took labor to pick it up, take it to the market and find a buyer.

>>2400919
what about the nyc chapter?

>>2400919
>This is why we oppose Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ vote against an amendment that would have blocked $500 million in funding for the Israeli military’s Iron Dome program. While the Congresswoman voted against the defense appropriations bill itself, voting against funding for the imperialist military-industrial complex and the Israeli genocide, we were further deeply disappointed by her clarifying statement on her position on the Iron Dome. Along with other US-funded interceptor systems, the Iron Dome has emboldened Israel to invade or bomb no less than five different countries in the past two years.
NO expulsion.
NO backbone.

There's nothing in the world that I can just treat like a magical black box that I don't have to think about and that makes me mad. >:(

WHY DO WE HAVE TO GIVE ANY MONEY TO ISRAEL?!?! I DON'T CARE IF IT JUST FUNDS BAGELS FOR ISRAELI ORPHANS. THEY DON'T DESERVE A RED CENT.

>>2401102
Apparently the NYC chapter is 100 percent BDS but I tried to find a statement but I didn’t find anything with regards to a statement on AOC.

>>2401109
DSA is zionist

>>2401100
>the peoples profits
so state capitalism?

>>2401113
They’re about as Zionist as Hadash Taal

>>2400921
Tulsi is such a dumbass. Prime russian bitch saying russia does nothing. And acussing Obama of couping Trump. This and UFO wont save MAGA.

>>2401105
You know what’s funny about this? AOC is hurting her chances at becoming senator let alone president. Sure the fossils in the party may endorse her if she tows the party line but they are increasingly irrelevant. The Democratic base has moved much further to the left and the Democrats know this and have been actually blaming their own voters. Donald Trumps base on the other hand like him because he’s generally where they are at. In fact MAGA and America First has grown beyond Trumps control. They are right wing populists and they are very effective at winning elections. The Democratic establishment trying to go after this mythical “moderate” obviously no longer works so the only other thing they can do is accept left wing populism otherwise they have no political future. Nancy Pelosi rose to power in a different context, AOC won’t become senator let alone president under this new context so I ask once again: what is the fucking strategy here?

>>2401116
Zohran is their leader and he is zionist. DSA is zionist. This explains their silence and inaction. You are zionist

>>2401093
>The costs of storage of wine barrel, which demands human labor, adds value of bottled wine.
so when does labour "add" value? where is the moment of addition? lets say i have a baseball and i get it signed, then sell it for $1000, is the autograph itself worth $1000 of labour?
>>2401101
>it takes labour to pick up a bottle
yes, and it takes labour to type this post, but its not valuable, is it?

>>2401124
>if I say it enough, it's true!

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>>2401068
>aged wine is always worth more than new wine, despite the fact that no labour is added to it;


the value of wine includes not just the labour of harvesting grapes and fermentation, but also the labour embodied in storage facilities, the labour of maintaining those facilities, the labour required to monitor or manage the aging process (even if minimal). Even if no new direct labour is added daily, the conditions required for aging wine (cellars, barrels, temperature control, foregone sales, etc.) represent past labour and a social investment in time and resources.

>>2400987
Yeah I like that idea, team sports encourage cooperation with other human beings which is the basis for a socialist society of any sort. E-sports would be great in this department too, if you can coordinate well enough with your buddy to pull off a wombo combo (that aint Falco!) then you definitely have the discipline needed for a revolution. The only problem is that you do kinda have to form the outer and inner rings first before you start establishing the front clubs in this case, you've got to have a group of people who are willing to do their part to bring about communism before hosting the Capricorn Smash Bros Association, affiliated with the Capricorn Community Defense Project - Tidewater Chapter. Or something like that. It's really the "outer ring" that's the most important aspect in this scenario

>>2401108
Give it 10 more years and there'll be charities called "Grandchildren of Holocaust survivors" in Israel that'll demand you open your heart (and wallet!) to people dealing with the generational trauma of the Holocaust for the low-low cost of $30 a month.

>>2401130
and how would you quantify this investment?

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>>2401126
>yes, and it takes labour to type this post, but its not valuable, is it?

LE MUD PIES

>>2401136
as investment in past labor (capital). you're circling the drain here.

>>2401129
Zohran is on record saying the most zionist proposition. Zohran said zionist entity has right to exist

>>2401138
right, so what makes a commodity valuable? not its labour costs, but its rate of demand, represented by prices.

>>2401141
>as investment in past labor (capital)
so if i dig a hole in my back yard i am a capitalist?

>>2401124
Bet you dont think Putin is a Zionist 😂

>>2401142
He said the zionist government has the right to exist if it follows international law, zionism is in contradiction with international law so he’s really calling for a free palestine on the sly, somehow all the media zionists understand this but you don’t

>>2401146
Only if you find something you can sell when you dig

>>2401138
Disprove mud pies right now or I'm selling this webspace to PragerU

>>2401150
so labour has no value if it isnt sold?
then labour cannot quantify value.

>>2401150
stop answering, you're not even right. you're just emboldening a retard by being even more retarded

>>2401143
people don't demand things that aren't

1: useful
2: require labor to get

because if it's not 1, it's not important
and if it's not 2 it won't cost labor time to acquire (and consequently will not have a price)

scarcity is just a proxy for labor time. the more scarce something is the more labor time it requires to acquire.

>>2401152
mud pies aren't useful so nobody wants them, which means they can't be commodities, because they lack use value.

fact: marx never uttered "labor theory of value" in his life and all attempts to prove his ideas wrong hinge on making up a strawman "LTV" to attack. nearly all the decent observations anti-Marx people make Marx already included in his work, which they refuse to read.

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>>2401126
It actual does have value, otherwise corporations wouldn’t be scrapping the web gathering as much data as possible. All value derives from human labor on one way or another and as capitalism advances further and further more and more labor will be monetized for the market. The most minuscule and “valueless” labor all will be monetized.

>>2401146
you were asking about fermenting wine, not digging piontless holes. why the subject change

>>2401130
notice how the retard deflected this PERFECT answer and asked about digging holes (yes I am responding to myself because I want to highlight this PERFECT answer again)

>>2401166
>people demand useful things
yes, which is the source of its value
>scarcity is just a proxy for labor time
if i build 100 houses and they all cost $100k
then there are only 10 left and each are $150k
supply and demand explains this, but to you, labour has magically imbued itself into the property. you make metaphysical leaps and bounds to prove the disprovable, like any religious dogmatist.
>>2401167
so to you, mudpies are actually valuable because it took labour to make them?
>>2401169
answer this:
>lets say i have a baseball and i get it signed, then sell it for $1000, is the autograph itself worth $1000 of labour?

>>2401036
I mean it kind of is, why aren't they trying to arrest KKKillary who was a bigger pusher for RussiaGate bullshit?

>>2401142
Wrong. Zohran is Anti-zionist Socialist.

>>2401132
Back in the day, when they had Soviet funding, the CPUSA used to run a summer camp for workers’ kids.

Of course times have changed and we don’t have the funding we used to, but I think if the communist party is supposed to be a reflection of society as it should be, or pointing to a new society, it needs a superstructure of its own, things like workers dances, or community grilling, or what have you: it should all be a part of that.

Honestly, soccer is inexpensive and in the case of places like SoCal, it already has a cultural background among Hispanic immigrants. I think if the CPUSA were to get involved with rec soccer as a form of community outreach, and maybe tie that into raising legal defense funds for people who’ve been held captive by ICE, it’s got a real winning combo.

I’d submit this to the Party to maybe post as a suggestion on their website or for internal discussion, but at the same time I’ve already suggested it here and—for better or worse—there are some folks on this site that genuinely hate me. If I suggest it and the CPUSA goes with it, then I don’t know if there’d be some email campaign from some of the more psycho types on here to try to dox me or attack the party.

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>>2401177
>so to you, mudpies are actually valuable because it took labour to make them?

To me, personally? No but I’m positive you could whip up some artisanal mud pies and sell them somewhere to someone on the market. So yes they have value under capitalism.

Like you’re argument is that under socialism someone can sit in there yard and make mudpies and be doing work. However that’s only true under capitalism, a socialist economy wouldn’t make mud pies in less there was a use for them. A capitalist economy will do whatever stupid shit like slapping googly eyes on a rock and sell it to well off yuppies that get a kick out of it. So your mudpies only have value under capitalism.

Btw I couldn’t find mudpies for sale but I did find a $305 mudpie making kit.

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Sickening person

>>2401183
Nakedly the most racist, zionist piece of shit you could imagine, and no one dares speak a word.

>>2401177
>supply and demand explain everything, not labor
ok then why do different commodities have different equilibrium prices? Supply and demand don't explain the equilibrium price, they explain temporary fluctuations/deviations away from that equilibrium price. Equilibrium price is the value expressed in monetary units. When a price deviates from a value, it is deviating because of non-labor factors. the equilibrium price itself is explained by socially necessary labor time. deviation from equilibrium price are explained by supply and demand. THIS IS /USAPOL/ btw

>>2401183
>let them starve
>but it's fake news
>but i hope they all die anyway
It's times like these that are revealing, they know exactly what's going on in Gaza. its not like liberals sometimes think that its a lack of 'awareness' or ignorance that they dont know.

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>>2401185
They are too powerful.

>>2401195
hitler's head would explode like scanners if he saw this

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>>2401205
Hitlers head did explode like scanners because he shot himself in the head.

Explain cummunism.

>>2401177
LTV was proven right numerous times correct, pol.

>>2401177
Marx was talking about value as the average labor time necessary to create mass produced commodities under Capitalism, not one of a kind sentimental objects like the original Mona Lisa or a baseball bat autographed by babe ruth. Those by definition aren't mass produced and are meaningless to talk about. Just because random individuals are willing to pay more for a base ball bat because it's been signed by a famous person doesn't mean you can crank up a factory with a bunch of mass produced fake signatures that look exactly the same and sell them for $1000 each. people are only willing to pay the the SNLT expressed as money (with minor deviations from that equilibrium due to non labor factors like supply and demand)

>>2401222
nah this isn't pol, this is the singularly obsessed adam smith anon who calls himself a non-marxist socialist and makes up most of the posts in the /political economy/ threads. I can tell by his posting style and arguments.

>>2401225
conflating speculate price with value is very pol, tbh. he hasn't exercised his demons.

>>2401224
the average retard on here doesn't want to think about how marx's modeling has limits and constraints.

>>2401229
in Marxist economics, Marx proposed theories and formulas work as intended for the purposes he intended.

>>2401234
yes, but a great number of people here think marx simply explained all economic systems always and forever with the caveat that there's some triumph of proletarian will that supersedes this into a blackbox "communistic" economy that cannot be examined.

>>2401180
Please don't let the schizos stop you from doing good

>>2401229
Proletarian theory truly has no bounds. Your imperialist denigration of proletarian sciences is shameful

Orange man is breaking

>>2401252
is he really though

>>2401238
Thanks anon, I might write up a thing and submit it. What happens, happens.

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>>2401252
RETVRN TO CASTLE TRUMPENSTEIN
>you play as Chud 'Jakson, who has been kidnapped by ICE for doubleplus unbad speak (criticized israel's genocide of gazans) and imprisoned at LORD TRVMP's child rape castle (built by sir epstein II 500 years ago). can you break out and escape before you get raped? how many kids can you save from being raped? what other horrifying things will you find in the darkness?
Preorder today on STEAM and ITCH IO, ($9.99 USD (1 penny for every time trump was on epstein's plane)))

>>2401251
>Your imperialist denigration of proletarian sciences
not what happened.

>>2401252
now what did he do?

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>>2401264
DOJ just announced Trump’s name were in a lot of the Epstein files according to the WSJ.

So it could be there’s a literal civil war in Trump’s admin. No clue. Would be funny if before they’re fired/quit Pam Bondi or Dan Bongino just say “Yeah Trump is a pedo.”

Most of the people in his former admin hate his guts now, after all. And Bondi is obviously being set up as a scapegoat by the media (Trump is more circling the wagons around her) so it could be someone somewhere got the orders to torch Trump.

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Read this post carefully. WWG1WGA.

>>2401287
We are entering the final stages, soon they will scream for blood.

>>2401158
no shit, yes, value is only realized at the moment of exchange. what brings you to the moment of exchange?

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One day leftypol is going to figure this Marxist thing out then the capitalist pigs will be in real trouble!

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>>2401287
>>2401290
Let’s see how the Qanon casualties subreddit is doing…

Oh.

Oh God.

>Revelations 13:8

>Two protesters were just removed from an Axios event after interrupting a live interview with Senator Josh Hawley.

>One pro-Palestinian protester shouted, “Shame on all of you for being as disgusting as he is and supporting genocide.”

Holy shit Trump sounds so bored here. Obama and Clinton are just tired sitcom gags at this point.

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>>2401310
Thats a nice Il Duce room though, goes well with the suit and tie and shirt, its a shame a pedophile's wearing it.

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>>2401300
This thing doesn't even look human its like a sad skinwalker or something

>>2401324
ITS A HOMUNCULUS

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>>2401324
Must be a secret service agent.


Just a reminder that anyone who gets that close to a senator and doesn't shoot them is a collaborator. Doesn't matter what senator it is, they all get the bullet.

>>2401329
fascist country

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>>2401295
ok thanks smug retard. go back to enjoying the pedophilic genocidal society that is already organized how you like it.

>protest stream down
its joever
the country once again falls to compliancy

are you excited to see obamna in jail?

>>2401344
no because hes going to prison for the wrong reasons

>>2401344
Hell yeah brother. Obummer is going to get it up his bum.

>>2401345
uh fellas is it cringe when based things happen just because cringe people did them for cringe reasons

ignore multipost, i am retarded

It's based when based boy happens for cringe based cringe. Sneed.

>>2401342
Starve the rabble of attention, and all is forgotten.

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Are we allowed to say ZOT? Or is that still /pol/?

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>>2401361
OI m9! ZOT is proscribed language! It is hurtful to People of Zion!

>>2401361
Sam Husseini is a Zionist /pol/tard so no surprise he would promote Zionist talking points.

Reminder that you don't have to hate Israel to be anti-Zionist. In fact, most of the most extreme Zionists are the biggest Israel haters. Real anti-Zionism means having a balanced and measured take on Israel.

>>2401361
you're allowed to say whatever as long as it doesn't break rules people who disagree are usually breaking 11 or 14

>>2401361
ZOG or whatever lets america off easy. like if I hire a hitman to kill people so I can take their stuff, that hitman hasn't "occupied" me, I have given the hitman an occupation. the US government is not "occupied by" zionists, it fundamentally is zionist. It is a zionist government, because zionism is settler-colonialism, imperialism, capitalism, and racism, and the US government was all 4 of those things before Herzl was even born. so zionism is a reflection of manifest destiny just like lebensraum was. America is the father of zionism and nazism, not its child. And if you killed every last zionist in the US government and made AIPAC illegal, that would not stop the US from continuing its other forms of settler-colonialism, racism, capitalism, and imperialism which made it so compatible and friendly too the zionist movement in the first place.

waiting for certain resident gremlins to ignore everything I said above, especially what i put in red to make it easier for them, and call me a philosemitic jewish zionist or something

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>>2401361
>Are we allowed to say ZOT? Or is that still /pol/?
Naw. Its too "Da jooz" for me. We need something more original sounding.

>>2401396
Joe Biden is Zionist. Barack Obama is Zionist. Donald Trump is Zionist. None of them are Jewish.

>>2401397
Exactly that's my point. The problem with applying the term to USA is its too reductive and therefore brainlet. Its not just "da jooz" its Zio-fash collaborators too. Exactly why I call cops boug-bots and not zog-bots.

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I sometimes pondered what a post trump world would look like, we have been stuck with the orange since 2016. I thought a post trump world would come in 2028. But all this Epstein stuff has sped it up. 4chans pol is practically spammed with people calling trump a pedo 24/7 now, kek. i think 4chan will revert back to being ron paul type libertarians, they already have a hard on for massie and rand paul.
I also think people are tired of the democrat establishment so this whole thing is an opening for the social democrats like bernie, aoc, zohran, and whoever else will come to strike.
the south american pink tide will finally reach north america perhaps.
the blue print for its success has already been laid in mexico with AMLO and his protege sheinbaum.

People are going to start shooting other in the streets over this shit

>>2401401
I don't think we're going to see a "post Trump" world for a very long time because he's just the flabby face of a lot of economic forces and bourgeois cultural movements.

https://www.programmablemutter.com/p/when-tech-ceos-are-like-grumpy-ducklings?

<Louis de Catheu - Something that is quite striking with the second Trump administration is the part taken by the Tech Bros in his entourage and his coalition. To you, what are the causes of this new alignment between the MAGA movement and Silicon Valley active bosses?


>Henry Farrell - There are a number of areas where they share common interests. One thing, which is always very important to remember, is that they have common enemies. Many people on the Tech right are very much opposed to some of the measures that the Biden administration was associated with.


>The Tech right also harks back to a particular vision of the politics of technology. This line of thinking goes back through people like the authors of the The Sovereign Individual, building on notions from science fiction — Snow Crash and other science fiction dystopias. It more or less suggests: wouldn't it be incredible if we lived in a world in which we did not have to worry about government anymore?


>That vision is very clearly part of the animating vision of Peter Thiel. You also see it in people like Balaji Srinivasan, who wrote a book called The Network State, which suggests that we are going to see a possible breakdown of government and currencies, and the replacement of these by a much less traditional political system organized around technology firms. This will be a new world order in which technology founders will effectively be treated almost as the God Kings of these micro communities. People would be able to move back and forth between these communities according to Albert Hirschman’s logic of exit.


>I think that a pretty strong extreme right libertarian vision has always been a part of the Silicon Valley community — albeit until relatively recently a subordinated part.


>The second thing that is important is a much more immediate set of political tensions, some of which are purely and simply due to people in the Silicon Valley right feeling that they did not get sufficient recognition from the Biden administration. For example, Elon Musk was not invited to the Electric Vehicles Summit in 2021, where people were congratulated on building electric vehicles. Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz have also complained that they were not able to get access to the decision makers — they were fobbed off with second level officials rather than talking to Biden himself and to other people in command. There's a feeling among Silicon Valley elites that they did not get the respect that they purportedly deserve.


>The third thing is that there is an extreme hostility towards unions in Silicon Valley, which goes across the far right through to moderate left Democrat leaning people among the founders. The research of Neil Malhotra, David Broockman, and Gregory Ferenstein, suggests that in many ways Silicon Valley founders and funders are pretty left wing when it comes to a variety of social issues. They are more left wing than you might expect with respect to certain kinds of distributional issues, such as, being more favorable to basic income or to the distribution of welfare. But they are virulently hostile towards anybody who tries to tell them how to do their business. If you read Ross Douthat’s interview with Marc Andreessen in the New York Times a couple of months ago, that comes through very clearly.


>Opposition to woke is a significant part of the new way of thinking about things, but this is not because people have opposition to individual lifestyles, to people getting gender alteration surgery or any of these things. On principle, many people in Silicon Valley often tend to be radically libertarian when it comes to people's lifestyles. What they really objected to was the possibility that other people could tell them what they could or could not do to shape the workplace of their firms. These three forms of opposition helped to explain why you saw the Big Tech and Trump coming together.


<So, they’re ideologically motivated ?


>Yes, but that's not all. If you want to understand the glue that joins the two together right now, I think that you need to look beyond ideology.


>The real glue at the moment has, on the one hand, fear as an important ingredient. It's very clear that the Trump administration is much more willing to intervene on behalf of its temporary friends and against its enemies than previous administrations have been.


>On the other hand, there is a sense of self interest. For example, at the events in the Gulf a few weeks ago, you saw all of these Silicon Valley CEOs trailing behind Donald Trump, like little ducklings trailing after their mother duck — looking to see where they go next, or what they do next. You saw one grumpy little duckling, Elon Musk, who was not part of the main entourage, and was extremely upset because Sam Altman seemed to be getting all of mommy’s love.


>The current blend of self-interest is probably more important than ideology, with both the desire to be cut into whatever deals are happening, and the fear that if you are not part of the core group, you're going to be cut out of them.

urban liberals have an unearned pretentiousness that is some of the most annoying shit youll ever have to interact with. the level of moralfagging ive experienced over simply not voting has been incredible

>>2401415
These tech guys are such fags

What's going on in Amerikkka recently, buergernons?
Apart from the Epstein stuff being rehashed for the 1000th time, i mean.

>>2401401
i think the next major world encompassing political zeitgeist will be chinese in origin. Probably in the 2030s when china begins building moon infrastructure.

>>2401424
Age of ReaKKKtion

>>2401424
TulSSi asked the doj to invesitgate BaraKKK Obama and the republiKKKans tooKKK their holiday 5 weeKKKs early by closing the house so there would be no vote on epstein files

>>2401415
One good thing about these fags wanting to drag you all back to some kind of feudalism is that you'll finally have reason to use your legal guns and explosives and so on.
Can't wait for the video of someone glowstick shakira shakira'ing Bezos's compound and blowing him away.

So how's the Trump fandom handling the Epstein files shitshow?

>>2401421
Yeah, the interview goes on to describe how part of their actions are motivated by people not "respecting" them enough, by which they mean they aren't treating them like living gods.

>We're in a world now where Silicon Valley people really began to identify with the idea that they were great men. This is not to say that great men are perfect, but they are people with very large virtues — and very large flaws as well. Silicon Valley founders were going to be world historical colossuses, bestriding the stage, reshaping the world in their image. The appropriate emotions towards them could be terror, could be awe, could be worship, could be hatred, but could never be not taking them seriously.


>Therefore one of the problems that Silicon Valley has had is people not taking them particularly seriously.


The US is in chaos because a bunch of midwit losers that think having money means they're god's special little guy are upset that the poors don't appreciate them enough for being so extra special great. They literally think "everyone that doesn't recognize how brilliant I am for having a gorillion dollars and telling a bunch of much smarter people to build the pain nexus and then name it after something from the one book I ever read deserves to die." They're man children.

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>>2401437
>TulSSi asked the doj to invesitgate BaraKKK Obama and the republiKKKans tooKKK their holiday 5 weeKKKs early by closing the house so there would be no vote on epstein files
Won't they just do the vooooot when they kome bacKKK?

>>2401425
It won't be. We're headed into WW3 or total societal collapse. It is undeniable at this point.
Everyone hates each other, nobody is allowed to move culture forward (see the reaction to transhumanism and cringe culture and capital's vicegrip on culture), food is getting shittier, resources are running out, topsoil is eroding, etc.

The next world encompassing zeitgeist is getting a presidental alert on your iphone telling you ICBMs are incoming.

>>2401441
>”I never really cared about Epstein anyways.” -The Grifters
>”This is a 4D chess move by Trump. He knows the media hates him. By pretending to not want the Epstein files released he’s baiting them into an unwinnable situation when he finally does it. #Checkmate #TrustThePlan” -The Qultists.
>”Wh-why is Trump doing this?! Did the cabal threaten his loved ones?” -The Copers
>”TRUMP LIED TO US. HE’S PART OF THE CABAL. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TAKE MATTERS INTO OUR OWN HANDS.” -The MAGA equivalent to the Strasserites.

>>2401443
Trump the anti imperialist president will send boots in ukraine or something so everyone will be distraKKKted

PSL just put out a call to action up to and including armed struggle, we have been seeing red guard bridges all over LA

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Lol.

>>2401458
Literal red guard bridges, as in the bridges are made of red guard locking arms together.

There's a large black bloc emassing on the ports in seattle, on the ground people are saying it could be as large as 50,000 people, news isn't reporting it as anything other than isolated rioters

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>>2401463
This one's similar, but it's a giant person made of people.

>>2401464
Hmmmm, I wonder if these remarks (including the one where he literally called people ragheads) will ever be mentioned by the media, or other congresspeople, or ANYONE AT ALL.

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>>2401464
Imagine Randy Fine on top of you.

>>2401464
anotha kkkrakkka down

>>2401468
>>2401469
Yes but have you considered that somewhere in America, a Jewish college student is worried what will happen if he puts on a Yarmukle? (Nothing actually happened, but their feelings say more than real evidence ever will)

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>>2401464
>22 year old infantry officer

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https://x.com/jkbjournalist/status/1947788542253343218
>The reason I took up the case is because a woman filed a lawsuit against Mr. Trump alleging he raped her when she was a teenager. At the time, (2016) Mr. Trump was running for president of the United States – and had nominated Acosta for a top cabinet position. Acosta was the prosecutor who signed off on Epstein's sweetheart deal. As a result of the deal, Epstein served a light sentence and was released – and continued to sexually abuse women and girls for at least another decade. That's not fake news.

>>2401459
I am convinced that one of the posts from Tom Foley is right when he was talking about that Gaza is just a ground test to see how much are we willing to accept, how much dehumanization, how much can they enrage the people to then do these things pretty soon on more and their own people.

>>2401379
>tfw you have to resort to native american genocide because all your modern genocides failed and backfired in your face

uyghas is houngry.

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So when will Barrack Obama be arrested burgers?

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>>2401496
bout 3:50

>>2401500
Had no idea chudjak was Israeli

>>2401464
Was he jacking it to her? It might help him lose some weight if he does it enough

>>2401469
why did you put that thought in my head :(

>>2401500
>end of video
>big text
>Christians are the next victims
Well they already kill Palestinian Christians. so even in the mindset of trying to appeal to Christians by their own selfish interests, it's misguided because it understates the problem. Christians are already being killed. But a further critique is that genocide and ethnic cleansing should be opposed no matter whho the victims are.

>>2401424
>What's going on in Amerikkka recently, buergernons? Apart from the Epstein stuff being rehashed for the 1000th time, i mean

austerity, deregulation, union busting, privatization, usury, prison slavery, protests, killings, etc.

>>2401500
isn't it weird how christfags harp on the ten commandments so much instead of the noahide laws when the ten commandments are for jews and the noahide laws are for gentiles

>>2401379
>14 words
>H capitalized twice for no reason

>>2401510
We all know that Christian is just an euphemism for White bro, whoever made this video is definitely not concerned about the fate of Arab or Latinx christians.

>>2401517
religion is flexible, ideologically inconsistent, and primarily concerned with its own institutional preservation, rather than its doctrinal preservation.

>>2401396
Is this ironic?

BJPS study: Small business owners have for decades and across countries overwhelmingly been right-leaning. This tendency does not seem related to selection effects. Rather, the experience of being a small business owner seems to lead people to adopt conservative views on government regulation.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/politics-of-small-business-owners/492835B42B70C24F6613B352E4C3B83E

>>2401532
Trotsky vindicated yet again.

>>2401517
ten commandments were perfected by jesus during the sermon on the mount where he made the covenant with god - the titular new testament - and are therefor the core of christian faith

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>>2401532
a lot of regulation is lobbied by big businesses because they know they will be too costly for small businesses to comply with. it's designed to nuke competition.

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>>2401517
Christians are the real Jews.

Circumcision of the Heart

>25 For circumcision benefits you if you observe the law, but if you are a lawbreaker, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if an uncircumcised man keeps the law’s requirements, will his uncircumcision not be counted as circumcision? 27 A man who is physically uncircumcised, but who fulfills the law, will judge you who are a lawbreaker in spite of having the letter of the law and circumcision. 28 For a person is not a Jew who is one outwardly, and true circumcision is not something visible in the flesh. 29 On the contrary, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart—by the Spirit, not the letter.[a] That man’s praise[b] is not from men but from God.

>>2401538
no, we're not but if it makes you feel any better neither are contemporary jews

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>>2401537
well that's what makes monopoly capital a historical accelerator is that it proletarianizes the reactionary petty bourgeoisie and forces them, if not right away, at least over the course of a few generations, to develop proletarian class consciousness.

>>2401539
Are you dumb?

>a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart—by the Spirit, not the letter.[a] That man’s praise[b] is not from men but from God.


What does it mean to be a "Jew inwardly?"

>>2401544
"culturally jewish"


You are all so fkg boring…

>>2401548
ok get off your computer and go do some stimulants at a nightclub ADHD kiddo

>>2401548
Only boring people ever complain about being bored.

Ok let's kick it up a notch.

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>>2401547
>my president might have been complicit in raping dozens of children, but at least my eggs are cheaper
During the day of the guillotine, never forget what maga voters stood for

>>2401555
Are the eggs actually cheaper doe?

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Non-burger here: what does it mean if the House Oversight Committee has just subpoenaed the Department of Justice to release the Epstein files? Do they have the power to force their release? Or will Trump find some other way to wiggle out of it?

>>2401182
labour can only be commoditised if it serves potential consumption - it is the subjective demand which grants labour to be a valuable commodity therefore. labour in itself has no value, and neither do commodities, since a price is just a suggestion, not an innate property.
>>2401188
>why do different commodities have different equilibrium prices?
"equilibrium" refers to the physical process of diffusion, where molecules will fill up a body in equal volume over a certain time, like how a gas will inevitably spread itself. the same is theorised for prices, that they may fluctuate, but over time, will level out to the same rate, therefore balancing supply and demand. different equilibrium prices then depend on the rate of supply since this is the constant variable.
>deviation from equilibrium price are explained by supply and demand
equilibrium = balance of supply and demand
disequilibrium = imbalance of supply and demand
>>2401224
so again, the LTV fails to encapsulate the economy.
>>2401222
>if you dont believe in my superstition you are a nazi
more rationality and sanity
>>2401294
exchange is simply the transfer of money, so i could be sleepwalking and buy a commodity, so it doesnt even need to be useful, just salable. there is no necessary factor besides the transfer of ownership of an item.

still enjoying the fruits of imperialism, USApollers? still worshipping your cringe gods (AOC, Kendrick, Contrapoints) in Breadtube Church? Still massacring the beautiful language Y'ALL? still consooming BIDEO-ESSAYZZ?

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>>2401635
well of course, the democrats are trying to frame him.

>>2401630
>AOC, Kendrick, Contrapoints stans on leftypol
Shadowboxing or just retarded?
>Amerikkka
Nevermind, retarded

>>2401630
I guess Ruzzian victory is still years away, zizter?

>>2401559
Human traffickers dont keep books though

>>2401661
The low level ones don't. The ones that believe they're untouchable certainly would, just so they can boast during their next pedophile meeting

Global opinion on israel is waning, you can see it with every new poll they put out. There is a growing appetite to drop israel among the american electorate. Since the liberals will never drop israel this gives the chance to campaign on this message to either the leftists or the rightists

>>2401642
you lost

>>2400788
He already has with the “eating the dogs and cats” comment.

>>2401630
>being a grown adult trying to start fights on imageboards

>>2401500
baset. let the christofags and jewfags kill each other.

>>2401424
The usual, just worse

>>2401510
im guessing its trying to appeal to white christians. but i doubt they consider the predominately Catholic or orthodox palestinian communities as real Christians because they have rituals in church icons of saints and incense, while real christianity has a pastor and cheesy rock music, and a session of rolling on the floor babbling like a baby while 'speaking in tongues'.

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>>2401384
they gotta hire someone, right?

alway wondered where bad guys get their henchmen

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>>2401639
This epstein cases brakes the minds of q-tards and migapedos who have been calling everyone else a pedo.

>>2401699
14 words (33 words edition)

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🐐

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🐐🐐🐐

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>in 2010 footage, jeffrey epstein pleads his 5th, 6th and 14th ammemdment rights when asked if he and trump had been involved with underage girls
TRUMP IS GUILTY!

>>2401725
>>2401730
the hollowness of the liberal critique is laid bare

>>2401725
>it's le sadam but le trump
This is so sad they should have canceled this shit 20 years ago.

>>2401733
None of this is new.

>>2401554
In Amerikkka it is legal to wear a t-shirt driving a motorbike and wheeleing it in the motorway before firing fireworks from your vehicle mounted guns?
Your country is so cancer.

>>2401554
It's a damn shame a liveleak watermark isn't on that video.

>>2401725
this sucks did they really put this on tv?

>netanyahu was reported of blackmailing bill clinton with monica lewinsky tapes during his presidency

>>2401744
it's so fucking over for Israel holy shit

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>>2401741
it's probably illegal (just like fireworks are in a lot of places) but not really enforced unless uh, you know

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>>2401611
>different equilibrium prices then depend on the rate of supply since this is the constant variable.
and the rate of supply depends on the rate of production depends on the socially necessary labor time. Now go back and watch the video.
>equilibrium = balance of supply and demand
And when supply and demand are in balance you have an "equilibrium price" or "natural prices" as they were once called which is different depending on the commodity. since supply and demand cease to explain anything when they cancel each other out, it must be some other factor(s) which causes commodities to have different equilibrium prices from each other, and that factor is, overwhelmingly, socially necessary labor time, at least when we are talking about mass produced commodities in a capitalist economy, which was Marx's object of study (not mud pies or original DaVinci paintings or one-of-a-kind baseball bats autographed by Babe Ruth) "
>disequilibrium = imbalance of supply and demand
which causes a deviation from the natural price, AKA equilibrium price, AKA value, AKA socially necessary labor time.
>so again, the LTV fails to encapsulate the economy.
Marx never even uttered the words "Labor Theory of Value" but his theory of socially necessary labor time was never meant to "encapsulate the whole economy" just to explain the properties of mass produced commodities in an industrial capitalist economy in the time and place he lived in. This is like complaining that classical mechanics fails to account for quantum mechanics. It's like OK, that's not within the scope of what the theory is meant to explain.
>exchange is simply the transfer of money, so i could be sleepwalking and buy a commodity, so it doesnt even need to be useful, just salable. there is no necessary factor besides the transfer of ownership of an item.
Listen Wittgenstein, you can redefine words to mean whatever you like within the scope of your own theories but when Marx is talking about commodities he defines them as objects with both use value and exchange value that are mass produced in an industrial capitalist economy. i.e. he is talking about a specific social phenomenon in a specific mode of production, and when he talks about socially necessary labor time as what explains value, he does not mean final market prices but natural/equilibrium prices. So he is discounting certain factors deliberately because his focus is alienation and exploitation of the proletariat, which is part of what he is studying and explaining.

>>2401746
how is the (not very surprising) revelation that Israel had Bill Clinton by the balls with regards to the Lewinsky scandal in any way indicative that it's "over" for Israel? Especially when the United States continues to aid and abet the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank? Bruh I wish it was "over" for Israel but this is delulu. It will only be over for Israel when Americans finally get the balls to play a lot of Minecraft.

>>2401767
it's only surprising to people like you and me that know what Israel is capable of. The average American citizen is unprepared for the fact that past presidencies got blackmailed by foreign intelligence. This only empowers the rising American Firsters in the american establishment. How the fuck is this a good thing for Israel? do you really expect them to be coming out better from all this? October 7th started the Israel/USA divorce and it's only getting worse over time

>>2401778
unsurprising*

>>2401778
It’s less of a divorce and more of a murder suicide pact

>>2401725
The Sadam fucking satan bit was never that funny and neither is this. They’ve always painted anyone authoritarian as bad including Kim Jong Ill. South Park is a good barometer of a large gen x contingent in U.S. politics. They still seem really into it.

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>>2401755
>the rate of supply depends on the rate of production
these are the same thing
>depends on the socially necessary labor time.
marxists self-admittedly say that SNLT cannot be measured since it comprises a social aggregate, and so like value, it only exists as a medium between commodities - not as a property within commodities themselves. SNLT has no intrinsic materiality.
>since supply and demand cease to explain anything when they cancel each other out, it must be some other factor(s) which causes commodities to have different equilibrium prices from each other
i will repeat myself - the rate of supply and demand, when in equilibrium, assert the price, based on the rate of supply, as a constant variable. so if i have commodity (x) and commodity (y), the equilibrium price will be either lower or higher based on relative supply. if i produce 1000 (x) and 500 (y) under controlled conditions, then (x) will be cheaper, because there is a greater supply which meets demand.
>marx's theory is outdated and/or incomplete
marx's theory seems to be depend on immeasurable variables, so lacks any empirical evidence whatsoever. how would you even "prove" marx correct?
>when Marx is talking about commodities he defines them as objects with both use value and exchange value that are mass produced in an industrial capitalist economy
you can define it however you like, but the real, material relation of economic consumption is merely an act of transference. the thief and the merchant have the same function against the victim of theft or the customer, which is the possession of another's property - trade just facilitates a reciprocal theft. the usefulness of commodities is an irrelevant factor to the imperative of economic circulation.

>>2401783
America unlike Israel has a capacity for change, which is necessary to survive this multipolar world

>>2401725
>>2401730
I think at this point it's less about trying to be "funny" and more trying to goad the network into cancelling them for making fun of Trump after Colbert got canned. Which hey it just might work

>>2401725
>>2401730
KEkkkkkkk. Trump's penis is small. I'm glad they showed it. That was hilarious.

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Fucking epic. This is TV history being made right here.

>>2401858
yeeshus anon, spoil that shi.

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I hope Donald Trump's penis is a reoccurring character like Mr. Hankey.

>>2401813
> America unlike Israel has a capacity for change
Hahahahaha

If enough people feel bad enough and get radicalized from feeling bad somehow, Israel will stop bombing kids because now everyone except America is mad at them.

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>>2401725
>>2401785
> South Park is a good barometer of a large gen x contingent in U.S. politics. They still seem really into it.
Matt and Trey just saved America with their clever satire.

>>2401868
America is embracing protectionism so yes it's changing

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>>2401725
>>2401730
< haha his penis is tiny
god this show is so miserable to watch

>>2401730
Eh, I chuckled.

hulk hogan is dead lmaoooooo



>>2401903
BRRROTHERRR please…hh….. ack…. vote… for the child fuckerrrr–ACKKKKKK

>>2401903
>>2401899
FUCK hulk hogan

>>2401903
The Hulkster is dead, Magazizters….

>>2401903
Who will make shitty TV ads to sell knockoff consoles for Vinesauce to make fun now?!

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>>2401903
rip bozo

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AOC be like

>>2401921
MAKE MURICA GREAT AGAIN BRUUUUDURRRR

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>>2401922
>0.00 aipac bucks
>votes for genocide anyway
bitch does it for free

>>2401903
Hulkmania may be gone but TRUMPAMANIA is still running wild brother. RIP Hulkster. We will carry on the fight no matter what.

>>2401917
soulja boy

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>>2401924
Hell yeah brother! Make American great again! That's what the Hulkster would want us to do.

do you think hulk hogan chose his name just as an excuse to say HH (hail hitler)

Just occurred to me after the death of him and Ozzie Osborne, that with the older boomers starting to slowly die, over the next 20 years the US population is probably going to decrease a lot, nothing like the baby boom was ever seen before in the US and hasn't been seen since.

>>2401942
There are a lot of ghouls who will be passing away and I cannot wait to celebrate them no longer tormenting this world

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>>2401948
Fucking Dick Cheney is still alive for some reason.

>>2401956
the devil protects his servants

>>2401956
I forget, was dick cheney one of the pedophiles in the government or not
him and W bush are going to live forever

>>2401979
He's more of the Wrath type than the Lust type.

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>>2402006
People say idpol and isg shit doesn't matter but south park actively shitting on trump is huge vibes that MAGA and the era of conservativism is over, the vibe shift began this year. the pendulum is starting to swing back

gen x and boomers fucking love south park

>>2402014
The contrarian rabblerousers finally have something to latch onto. Trump shed blood, something finally rattled him. Now it's open season.

trump is going to be enraged when he sees this. he might throw a diet coke can across the oval office. maybe he'll even smash the resolute desk.

Thought about dropping by my city's council meetings, but I can't think of anything going on here that I have an opinion on, or what I could even submit to the mayor's office.

this south park shit is so lame. saying he has a little dick is funny bc hes so petty it will actually upset him but where is the actual satire. show really shouldve ended at least a decade ago

>>2401073
"the left steals content!"

>>2402045
every accusation by rightoids is a confession

>>2402014
>if vibes don’t matter then what about thing that is internal to vibes

Bro

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>>2401903
But pastamania will live forever

>>2401903
hahaha

>>2401903
>cardiac arrest
So steroids

something something chinese century

>>2401903
>Jesse The Body Ventura outlives Hulk Hogan
Nice

>>2401903
I love this guy had a sex tape scandal but the controversy was him stopping mid fuck to go on a racist rant. Rent free

>>2402110
Fuck novideo tho I'm on drumpft side on this one

>>2402104
This week is all the proof I need that 20 years of binge drinking and cocaine is less deadly than steroids

MSNBC: Deputy AG Todd Blanche and Ghislaine Maxwell, along with Maxwell's attorneys, are meeting now in the Federal Courthouse in Tallahassee.

The meeting is expected to last throughout the day.

>>2401903
Hulk ain't in Heaven. Hulk's down there, in HELL.

>>2401874
>clever
I was going to say something but small pp vs big pp humor probably is the height of comedy for the target demographic

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>>2402120
every time

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>>2401903
obligatory

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>>2401903
goodnight HULKAMANIACS

>>2401903
his body look like a spray tanned banana
with a walrus mustache and whack bandana

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On right wing radio they're saying Colbert got cancelled because he was too vicious and partisan and no they're not mad because look at South Park, the South Park episode was good humored and not serious, and that's why it didn't get cancelled by Paramount, they can laugh along with some jabs from South Park, but not Colbert, he's nasty and sucks and is a failure

>>2402156
To be fair he hasn’t been funny since Colbert Report

>>2402155
even though this is centrist lolbertarian burger humor written by imperialist usanians, kim jon il unironically stomps the the opps

honkoid status?

He's going to wriggle his way out of this jam


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>>2402161
honkoids are hurting this week. lost ozzy. lost hulk.

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they also said that trump should take it as an honor that south park said his dick was tiny because it was a throwback to the saddam hussein bit and that south park is such a staple of american culture and parody and they're all such fans of it and have watched every episode

>>2402158
>>2402156

If Adam Friedland is the millennial Jon Stewart, then Nick Mullen has to reinvent himself as a hyper-reactionary pundit to be the millennial Colbert.

He needs to be out there talking about his 100+ year old Nazi father and crying at Peter Pan like Jordan Peterson.

>>2402156
colbert is an insufferably cring, even by libtard standards

>>2402168
>Prior to the White House’s statement, Rolling Stone had asked several Trump advisers if clips of the latest South Park episode had been circulating among Trump’s staff. One senior administration official replied, “Of course,” noting how much their phone had lit up about it. A Trump adviser also said they’d seen it, and that as a longtime fan of the series, they found it “disappointing.”

>>2401883
>Less than 1% of synagogues are anti Zionist
Eh, it's more than that. Most Jews support Israel but there are like 300,000 American Jews in Satmar which is anti-Zionist. Certain ultra-conservative Hasidic sects really. These simple-minded fanatics just see funny hat = Jew = Zionist.

>>2402158
>To be fair he hasn’t been funny since Colbert Report
That was also satirical which works better in political comedy. Once comedians start getting treated like preachers or political commentators then it's all downhill.

Speaking of Adam Friedland, he gave an interview to Semafor where he was like, do not make people like us into political commentators, because we are not smart people. He thought the network late-night shows were being kept around as some weird legacy product but that they weren't profitable.

Late night talk shows at 6:30

>>2402156
i have legit trouble distinguishing between Colbert and Stewart lol. these white liberal "political" "comedians" are indistinguishable from each other. Except john oliver because i can't forget his horribly crooked teeth in the first season of community

>>2401903
fuck…

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>>2402006
>>2402014
>People say idpol and isg shit doesn't matter but south park actively shitting on trump is huge vibes that MAGA and the era of conservativism is over, the vibe shift began this year. the pendulum is starting to swing back.

Didn't the episode itself kind of acknowledge a vibe shift by having PC Principal become a born again Christian?

>>2402207
Yeah but lets be honest, people like PC Principal were basically secularized Born-Again Protestant Christians anyway.

>>2401922
>She does it for free

>/v/ is crying for the blood of rightoids and radfems
Communism will win.

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>and by the way, we're not mad. Please dont put it in the newspaper that we got mad

>>2402205
Is this related to the new gamergate situation?

>>2402245
Can't believe this shit really is hurting MIGA. Trey Parker… I fucking kneel…

>>2402245
>he has done more in 6 months than any other president in US history

>dark woke is becoming real
Communism will fucking win. It must, or else all of our games will be banned, we will never own houses, and we will be slaves to foreign nations forever.

We must become free again. Freedom to own a house. Freedom to goon. Freedom to change your body. Freedom to choose what neighborhoods you live in. Freedom to live your life without having to work for slave drivers and soulless executives. Freedom to select healthy food. Real freedoms.

>>2402204
anyone have the webm of this and "Shine Jesus Shine" with hulk 3d animated as Jesus? it was in a webm thread in like 2019


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Not to distract from the important issue like gamergate 2.0 and the small pp of that show from the 90s, but do you think this sounds like they're planning to send troops in now?

>"The left's hypocrisy truly has no end — for years they have come after South Park for what they labeled as 'offense' content, but suddenly they are praising the show," White House spokesperson Taylor Rogers tells EW via email, adding that "just like the creators of South Park, the left has no authentic or original content" to premiere.

Based american proletariat will do a revolution soon

>>2402269
They already have U$ troops massacring Palestinians on Gaza

>>2402254
When it comes to mocking Trump, I think South Park is best suited for it. Like most of the mainline liberal attempts to mock Trump are pretty cringe, you had:
>”Make Donald Drumpf again.”
Which… what, is that just a joke that his family’s ancestral name was funny-sounding? It’s weak. I see that misspelling of Trump’s name or plays on it, and it’s never actually funny and just makes you look infantile—I know someone who’ll type Trump as tRump. It’s like a kid that’s afraid of saying an actual swear so they use terms like “crud”. Or, I don’t know, that trend elementary school kids do where they find out the skin of the elbow is called the “wenis” and so they’re giggling about that constantly.
>”Look at how dumb he is!”
Yeah he’s dumb, but America loves a dumb guy. One of our most beloved cultural icons is Homer Simpson. It’s why shit like Hillary mocking the fact Trump didn’t know what the nuclear triad was, was pathetic. I don’t know that either, who gives a fuck. It’s trying the goofus and gallant shit while not realizing most Americans love goofus.

South Park is infantile humor, too. But it’s not the “kid too afraid to say a swear word” infantile. It’s a monkey throwing shit at people kind of infantile. And Trump can’t counter that. He works best when put up against a smug prissy snob. South Park is dirtier than him and will just hit below the belt way more.

>>2402269
Does hamas even exist anymore? Wasn't the entire government killed?

>>2402260
>"communism will win"
<*describes liberalism*

>>2402282
People already did the small pp small hands thing back in 2016. Funny all the stuff about his spray tan doesn't seem to get to him. I even saw him joke about his comb over at a rally last year.

>>2402286
Other than "owning a house" how is any of that incompatible with communism?

>>2402286
>>2402288
It's communism with american characteristics

>>2402288
How is owning a house incompatible with communism?

>>2402288
communism is when the government controls society, no?

>>2401903
Poop brother HH

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>>2402291
Because private ownership in and of itself wouldn't exist. You wouldn't "own" a house, you'd live in it

>>2402286
And I've immediately clocked you as a "muh degeneracy" retard, so shut up.

>>2402299
>"muh degeneracy"
where do i imply this sentiment?
personal freedom and pluralism are liberal values.

>>2402304
Why would personal freedom be incompatible with communism?

>>2402298
Communism doesn't mean nobody owns anything.

>>2402297
Pedocracy would mean power to the children and they would do a better job than whatever is going on though

>>2402312
because communism erases individuality in service of the collective. thats why property is prohibited.
>>2402315
ownership means possessing property, no?

>>2402288
You'd rent from the city.


>>2402318
Communism as explained by the US State Department.

>>2402321
owning a house is owning property
is property permitted under communism?

>>2402323
In american communism, yes. Every citizen will be entitled to 1 acre of land, as the country belongs to its people.

>>2402322
Where did you put the commune toothbrush comrade I can't find it

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Look at my nazis dawg I'm never getting an ethnostate

>>2402328
It is currently massaging my prostate, comra-ahhhh~

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>>2402322
personal freedom entails self-ownership, and self-ownership is a primary form of property. this then extends into appropriation by labour, as john locke explains. most anarchists (the residue of the traditional french left, and so the torchbearers of the french revolution) understand this, so see ownership as the necessary precondition of liberation (i.e. workers owning the means of production). liberal philosophers like j.s. mill also concur - communism appears to give property rights to the state however, which then makes one subject to the will of others; an illiberal imperative. the confiscation of property also violates the basic clause of personal freedom, since one cannot own what he works for. if we cannot own the fruits of our labour, then we cannot own ourselves.
>>2402332
china is a capitalist country.
>>2402327
so private property will exist in american communism?

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>>2402332
N-NOO DELETE THIS
MY NARRATIVE
C-COMMUNISM IS ABOUT YOU OWNING NOTHING

>>2402335
Owning a home is use value for personal use not means of production and not property as long as it's not a fucking factory or a farm

>>2402336
>>2402337
so private property exists under communism?

>>2402339
no but personal property does

>>2402341
whats the difference?
>>2402338
what if i want to sell my house?

https://x.com/wmhuo168/status/1948001722024231161

>Big Pharma is collapsing and no one’s telling you why. The real reason isn’t politics or profits. It’s China. And the game is already over. Big Pharma is increasingly reliant on Chinese biotech advances


https://www.ft.com/content/89285fd5-cd24-4772-a53d-0553cd37032d

Big Pharma is increasingly reliant on Chinese biotech advances
<Drugmakers increasingly rely on medicines made in China even as the country faces Trump’s tariffs

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1948001749882765329.html

>Big Pharma is collapsing and no one’s telling you why. The real reason isn’t politics or profits. It’s China. And the game is already over.


>Big Pharma is increasingly reliant on Chinese biotech advances share.google/gqXFv29jBt7kzS…


>Exhibit Q18: Big Pharma Is Finished


>Western media won’t say it. But the global pharmaceutical order is collapsing. And China is the reason why.


>Not because of espionage. Because of competence. (1/11)


>For decades, Big Pharma thrived under a parasitic model.


>Outsource everything. Milk patents. Inflate prices. Delay generics. Fund lobbyists to kill reform.


>It was never about medicine. It was about monopoly rents. (2/11)


>China chose a different path. It built biotech capacity from the ground up.


>Massive state investment. STEM education. >Repatriated talent. Infrastructure scaled to a billion people.


>It wasn't neoliberal. It was national. And it worked. (3/11)


>In 2025, Chinese firms accounted for 18 percent of all global licensing deals. One-third of the total deal value came from China.


>Pfizer, Merck, and AstraZeneca are now dependent on Chinese partners to refill their pipelines. (4/11)


>Why are Western pharma giants flocking to Chinese biotech?


>Because China delivers clinical trials two to three times faster. Costs are 70 percent lower. The health data pool is unmatched. (5/11)


>Meanwhile, U.S. pharma is a financial zombie.


>It gutted R&D. It outsourced innovation. It normalized regulatory capture. Its core skill is not science. It is rent-seeking and acquisitions. (6/11)


>Now the contradictions are impossible to hide.


>Washington wants Cold War with China. Big Pharma wants research deals with China.


>You cannot isolate the nation that supplies your drug pipeline and expect no consequences. (7/11)


>The BIOSECURE Act and Section 232 biotech tariffs aim to force decoupling.


>But without China, Western pharma has no backup plan. No cost advantage. No trial speed. No real pipeline. (8/11)


>This is not just a pharma story. It is a civilizational story.


>The U.S. let Wall Street take over its science and production base. China built a system to serve its population. That system now dominates. (9/11)


>Big Pharma’s collapse reveals something deeper.


>America chose finance over factories. Intellectual property over real invention. Private equity over public health.


>China didn’t just catch up. It built a superior model. (10/11)


>Exhibit Q18, filed.

>Big Pharma is finished. Not because China cheated. But because America abandoned the idea of building for the public good.

>Now the reckoning is here. (11/11)

>>2402343
you wouldn't sell you'd vacate and move to an open property hermit crab style

>>2402336
>jarvis, look up the per capita statistics of people who "goon" and "change their bodies" for the united states and cuba, activate the vpn to dodge the janny and send the post

>>2402341
Proudhonian non-sense. In communism you VILL own nuffink and you VILL unironically be happier because of that.

>>2402347
Put your nazi flag back on, ThingNoticer.

>>2402347
Cuba is supportive of LGBTQ+ rights, Joao. It ain't the Castro years anymore n

Commulism is when your make people suffer and the more suffering you cause the more commatism it is. Combunism.
Source: My dirty rotten unwiped asshole, also the CIA

>>2402347
theres probably a lot of people in cuba that good tbh

>>2402268
holy fuck

>>2402350
and yet they have less people who "goon" and "change their bodies"
wow, it's almost as if that metric is flawed, someine should write a reply mocking that and post it here………….

>>2402355
Abolishing private property doesn't make everyone suffer more.

>>2402361
Proof that there's less masturbation in Cuba than the U$?

>>2402364
cuba exports it's gooners to florida, it's in the trump tariffs.

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>>2402260
You want communism because you want to unban games.
I want communism because I want all gamers gulaged.
We are not the same.

>>2402362
>YOU'RE GONNA LOSE EVERYTHING AND YOU'LL BE REDUCED TO A NUMBER AND YOUR EVERY THOUGHT WILL BE CONTROLLED
>AND THAT'S BASED
sure, pal

>>2402368
No one said this. Abolishing private property means abolishing ALL property and the concept of ownership itself. The distinction between "personal" and "private" property is Proudhonian petit bourgeois revisionism.

>>2402370
>abolishing concepts
mmm yes very materialist

>>2402367
why should gamers be gulagged?

Reminder for the anti-housing guy

gaming will be abolished, you VILL read da book

>>2402345
if you cant sell what you own,
then you dont own it
youre just borrowing it
the rights of ownership are reserved for someone else then - namely, the government.

>>2402372
You realize you're calling Marx un-materialist right?
Where do all these left anti-communist come from?
Should be mandatory to have read at least The German Ideology and Gotha Program to post on this site.

>>2402207
thats so funny dude, its a good pick to parody how fuckiing garbage the born again culture

>>2402381
the german ideology is mostly garbage, it's marx arguing with literal who's over who cares. the only parts worth reading are the introduction and the stirner section (for entertainment value)

>>2402386
>entertainment valur
What?

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>>2402389
the stirner-marx thing is really stupid and petty and marx is absolutely seething and calling him "saint santo" and it's funny to read

>>2402390
Whaf about his critique? Is it gemerald or coal?

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>>2402380
Is it then owned by the people, or by the STATE?

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>>2402394
it's largely stirner calling this or that "spook" and proposing properly "egoist" alternatives and then marx going "no u" and calling him an idealist

"Stirner’s critique of the idealism latent within Feuerbachian humanism had a
resounding effect on Marxism. It forced Marx to take account of the ideological
constructions in his own notions of human essence that he derived to some
extent from Feuerbach. Although Stirner never directly criticized Marx, The
Ego and His Own inspired criticism of Marx’s latent humanism from many
quarters.Marx himself was shocked by Stirner’s work into what is seen by
some Marxists as a decisive break with humanism and with the notion of a
moral or humanistic basis for socialism. He was clearly troubled by Stirner’s
suggestion that socialism was tainted with the same idealism as Christianity and
that it was full of superstitious ideas like morality and justice. This is manifested
in the relentless, vitriolic, and sarcastic attack on Stirner, which the largest part
of the German Ideology is devoted to. The German Ideology represents a
cathartic attempt by Marx to tarnish Stirner with the same brush that he himself
had been tarnished with—that of idealism—while, at the same time trying to
exorcise this demon from his own thought.Marx saw the application of
Stirner’s work for his own revolutionary socialism and he used Stirner’s critique
of idealism while, at the same time, accusing Stirner himself of idealism. Stirner
showed Marx the perils of Feuerbachian humanism, forcing Marx to distance
himself as much as possible from his earlier stance.
The early humanism of Marx, found in the Economic and Philosophical
Manuscripts of 1844, stands in contrast to his later materialism. The
Manuscripts are founded on the notion of the “species being” and they describe
the way in which private property alienates man from his own species. There is
a notion of human essence—an image of a happy, fulfilled man who affirms his
own being through free, creative labor. Marx’s early humanism bears the
unmistakable imprint of Feuerbach. For Marx, man is estranged from his
“species being” by abstract forces such as private property, and it is with the
overthrow of private property that man reclaims himself—thus everything
becomes “human.”For Marx, man is essentially a communal, social creature
—it is in his essence to seek the society of others. Man and society exist in a
natural bond in which each produces the other. Man can only become complete,
become the “object” when he affirms this social essence, when he becomes a
social being. "

>>2402409
I'm of the opinion that some spooks are useful as abstractions of things that would become too granular in purely materialistic terms.

>>2402409
Is that an ai a quote or did you write that urself?

>>2402411
it's a quote from "From Bakunin to Lacan" someone posted on reddit

>>2402410
Stirner isn't against spooks or abstractions per se so much as them "possessing" people for their own ends.

>>2401554
What song is this?

>>2402418
god i'm old

>>2402411
you can tell it's copy pasted from a PDF because of forced line breaks

>>2402419
You forgot to answer the question old man

>>2402338
Landlords would not exist if housing was not a means of production. Private homeowners appreciate value on their investment, they are capitalists. Homeowners are worse than landlords because landlords work towards the industrialization of housing while homeowners just hoard empty space. You're don't get to hoard land and exploit people for your own little retirement nest egg.


>>2402423
>landleeches are actually better because they can cram thousands of rentoid bugmen into cubbyholes in the same space that a few dozen homeowners occupy
we should have a discussion at some point about how the goal of marxism is not actually social equality or human flourishing but rather economic expansion at all costs

>>2402422
Not that guy but it's Kickstart My Heart by Motley Crue
It's shit

>>2402423
>Landlords would not exist if housing was not a means of production.
It's not.

>>2402428
>social equality or human flourishing
Meaningless liberal claptrap that has nothing to do with the real movement

>>2402434
BLAHBLAHBLAH WANTING TO LOOK AT TREES OR ANYTHING BESIDES THE A/C UNIT OF THE APARTMENT NEXT TO YOU IS BOURGEOIS HUMANIST SWILL YOU WILL BE LINED UP AGAINST THE WALL REACTIONARY
and so on and so on

>>2401797
Supply and demand only model market factors which cause prices to deviate from values. This is /USApol/ btw.

>>2402432
yeah and I wasn't the guy who asked about the song I just wanted to give him a hard time.
>It's shit
Correct!

>>2402383
Yknow egoist anon pointed out that in that “new GamerGate” stuff, a lot of it are basically evangelicals using radical feminism as a front group to achieve their political aims. And I remember waaaay back when the OG GamerGate was a thing, there was an interview with Jack Thompson I believe, who was this right wing lawyer that got famous for feuding with Rockstar Games and losing his license launching constantly frivolous lawsuits about games he never played. Like he said that the game “Bully” was a columbine simulator.

Anyways, during the interview there’s a part where he’s talking about feminists and video games, and I swear you can see the gears turn, I think he even basically says that feminists were doing a much better job than he did.

And honestly, it makes sense that more clever evangelical types would adopt “woke” stuff as a means of achieving political aims. You already see this with “uhh, Israel is a decolonial project” shit. God ain’t just dead today, but rotting. It used to be the Catholic Church would dictate what movies good Catholics could watch, now I think they don’t even try. Invoking God and Country aren’t the motivators they once were. But masking the old nonsense under layers of academic jargon that sounds progressive? That still works. No one gives a fuck about God anymore but they still care about women’s rights in the abstract.

There really isn’t, as others have said, much shade between “woke” and evangelical Christianity. Look at Ukraine if you wanna see how woke can serve neocon ends. Shit, if the pentagon wanted then I guarantee, coming up with some absurd rumor that Mao was a pervert that abused women would do plenty to advance consent for war with China. No one gives a damn if you kill one hundred gorillion people, Infinity War had a bad guy snap his fingers and make half of all life disappear. We’re used to big blockbuster death tolls. Death doesn’t matter, life is cheap. Hollywood already discovered that you could make a character more hatable by having him kick a dog than by having him blow up a train car of people. Play up China’s sexism, harken back to “parents killed female babies”, turn Chinese culture into “sexism” as much as the Ukraine war has made Russian culture into “war for wars sake” in the eyes of libs. Then you’ll get armies of losers trying to “save the Chinese women from their evil patriarchal government.”

Shit, after the Afghanistan withdrawal, I heard NPR do a piece on the sad closure of some Afghan girls’ soccer team. I’ve seen people respond to that silly Afghan tourism video with “There’s only men in it because Afghanistan is an InCel country.” Shit, there you go. If someone talks about easing sanctions up on Afghanistan, just call them an incel. You can kill any discussion or sympathy with that. If you want Afghanistan to be less impoverished, you hate women.

>>2402435
>Air conditioning
Even in your meltdowns you can’t help but to expose yourself as a treat addict

>>2402433
>>2402428
Renting isn't even that fucking bad. You're either dense or a selfish bastard who wants to hoard land in dense urban areas.

>>2402442
this is the american thread you swine, take your european swamp-ass back to brussels

>>2402450
>Renting isn't even that fucking bad. You're either dense or a selfish bastard who wants to hoard land in dense urban areas.
How does your personal opinion about renting contradict what I said?

>>2402450
>Renting isn't even that fucking bad.
lol, lmao even
were you reading the posts of that guy battling eviction and homelessness and utility shutoffs and legal action and shit

>Most nations of the world recognize Palestine as a nation, but the United States and most of its close allies do not. With Mr. Macron’s decision, France would become the first of the Group of 7 major industrialized nations — also including the United States, Britain, Canada, Germany, Japan and Italy — to do so.

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>>2402442
Even people in literal slums have a/cs. It's just an absolute necessity like heating is depending on your climate. That's why Euros die by the thousands every time they have a mild heatwave.

>>2402460
>shitaly is in the g7 because it's le major industrialized nation, not china doe

Can't believe their are unironic Schwabists here. Liberalism is a mental disease.

>>2402453
You get what you pay for, renting is only bad for poor people. The trouble is that the petty-bourgeoisie invest in private homeownership as a status symbol instead of putting their investments elsewhere. Consequently, the sector remains largely unindustrialized.

>>2402469
It's also because private homeownership gives the homeowner tbe ability to exploit their spouse and kids by threatening them with eviction.

>>2402469
it's fucking crazy to say that renting is shit due to lack of investment instead of landlords being parasites

>>2402471
that's not how that works, spouses co-own the house (unless there was a prenup or something) and kicking out your under 18 kid will get CPS sent after you

zohran status?

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Under communism. No one will own the shirt on their back. Everyday in each commie block, you will go down to the communal warddrobe to rent your clothing for the day and then you return it at the end of the day when you rent out your sleeping apparel.

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red alert
landleech in the thread

>>2402423
>Homeowners are worse than landlords because landlords work towards the industrialization of housing
it's another confusing "historical progress" AKA "acceleration" with "morally good" episode

Some of you guys really need to turn 18.

>>2402472
The landlord is a small business and the tenement hall is the means of production. It's only confused by the fact that housing remains largely nonindustrialized.
>>2402474
> trusting the cops
You know the purpose of CPS is to breakup minority families right? The CPS does jackshit to protect gay kids and others exploited and abused by the homeowners. And okay, some parents are equally opportunity exploiters.

IDGAF about the small businesses of small homeowners. I want to evict you and industrialize housing.

>>2402486
>vagueposting instead of responding directly to the anons you're mad at
Coward.

I know >fox news but since it's about the democrats the reporting is good.

Russia sat on intel of Hillary Clinton's alleged ‘heavy tranquilizers’ use, new docs claim DNI Gabbard declassified a report prepared by the House Intelligence Committee containing the allegations
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-sat-intel-hillary-clintons-alleged-heavy-tranquilizers-use-new-docs-claim

>>2402488
You're out of your fucking mind if you think talking shit in an anonymous basket weaving forum takes any balls my man. Talking shit to a man's face IRL takes balls, writing bullshit and posting as anonymous requires nothing.

>>2402483
Shut it greedy rentoid

>>2402487
and let's not forget how many cops are wifebeaters themselves and often side with the husbands

>>2402466
>muh liberal human rights
>muh bourgeois national borders
>muh new world order
>muh eat ze bugs live in ze pod fear mongering
thoroughly paleoconservative and lolbertarian petty bourgeois critique of capitalism from the perspective of the reactionary philistine

>>2402491
umm you need to turn 18

>>2402466
sorry but schwab is king

>>2402487
>children are the exploited proletariat and parents are small business owners exploiting their labor value
we've reached peak nonseriousness

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Renting is good actually.

>>2402498
source that they're not?

>>2402500
providing sources is just appeal to bourgeois authority

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Bedtime is fascist.

>>2402503
he draws 'em STACKED

>>2402442
Yknow the funny thing about Marx is that at the time he was writing, there was this kind of Victorian optimism—all this new technology, all this “progress”—that to some extent entered into Marx’s work as well. Like he talks about the “wonders” of Capitalism rivaling the great wonders of antiquity. I can absolutely guarantee he’d see something like air conditioners as a wonder, too—“we’ve advanced so much we can absolutely control the climate of our homes! Wow!”

So of course the dour moralists who call themselves communists today regard it as an awful luxury that degrades the virtues of toil.

>>2402498
🙄 The same conditions of private property which let the bourgeoisie exploit the proletariat, also permit exploitation and abuse in many other areas of life. The small homeowner is the smallest of small businesses but small homeowners are in the final analysis exploiters.

>>2402510
if you own a pet are you exploiting it?

homework is definitely bourgeois tho which is why china banned it

>>2402442
Absolute lifestylism. Please stop wasting oxygen that is better spend running my Euro 5 car.

>>2402511
Fuck are you talking about pets for?

I'm talking about queer kids kicked out on the street because the labor aristokkkrats are desperate to avoid the industrialization of housing and their coming proletarianization.

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>>2402442
>A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls.

>An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ch06.htm

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>>2402442
Socialism is not sweaty balls. To have air conditioning is glorious.

teachers are facist


>>2402520
Wrong. China has less air conditioning than amerikkka. Air conditioning is wasteful bourgeois luxury

>>2402524
Solar powered AC is not wasteful. The photons are free until the sun dies.

>>2402517
look i don't think kicking out a child is legal and if it is then i oppose it. has nothing to do with homeownership. a renter could just as well kick his kid out.

>>2402522
Are we allowed to call this fascism?


>>2402529
why are you asking permission to point out the obvious

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>>2402524
>China is the world's leading user of air conditioning with approximately 569 million units in use countrywide.

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>>2402528
It has everything to do with the private ownership of housing. Homeowners collude with each other to keep up the price of their investments all the fucking time. If you own a house you profit from the artificial scarcity of housing.

You know Hamas is totally crippled since the zionists army and the mercs are simply doing target practice on civilians and resorting to starvation. Beyond just bombing civilians, they are now in the end game of the genocide of Gaza. The West Bank is probably the next target. There really is no more hope, now I’m not depressed but I think we have to accept the inevitability that this genocide will be completed, we should continue to struggle because we are in the right side of history but I’ve given up hope on the struggle for the Palestinians will lead to their actual liberation.

>>2402534
Also tf are you going on about bourgeois law for?

>>2402534
bro you were talking about queer kids and now you're pivoting from the subject

>>2402526
>The photons are free until the sun dies.
The elite don't want you to know this, but the photons from the sun are free. I have almost 20 billion photons at my house

>>2402517
>I'm talking about queer kids kicked out on the street because the labor aristokkkrats are desperate to avoid the industrialization of housing and their coming proletarianization.
this is literal schizobbable unless you manage to coherently connect these scattershot shit

>>2402380
You don't really own anything because life is momentary. Realistically, unless large swarms of people collectively agree something has value then it doesn't because there is no objectivity in the universe unless you mean material existence in which case it also clearly doesn't care. You could point out consciousness is a part of the universe expressed by humans therefore things must have an inherent value for both consciousness to exist and also be able to dictate ownership, but that's more representative that human life is inherently valuable even if it is momentary. Unless you can live forever then you don't really own anything because you cannot dictate the rules of ownership in any significant capacity after you personally die. This also makes money objectively worthless. And government the most rational end of human existence because for all we know it does continue after we die and by extension other people as well. This is unironically how I realized communism is the most rational thing for humans unless you believe life has no value but then why not just kill yourself? I guess you can say God can dictate ownership and value if he's real, but then he really set up the game to be this way. I think at the end of it all, the real questions is whether we exist or we don't but as far as I can tell we very much do.

>>2402559
Value is a way of transferring time between people: socially necessary labor time

>>2402463
Euros think they are nobility and only the poor's need ac

>>2401725
>>2401730
>this the full power of liberalism critique
>le small pee-pee.
well, they have just became /pol/ tier shit when hunter's pics came out and /pol/ was all about hunter's penis pics.

>>2401970
it's tax payers dollars who protect them. they have access to the best public healthcare there is thanks to tax payers.


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