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Not reporting is bourgeois


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If making Israel look more morally decrepit than Nazi Germany is the intent, what's the point? Sudan is arguably just as bad right now. 600k people died in ~a year just four years ago in Tigray. What now? Some people care, many others won't, now what happens? The bourgeois apparatus stays the same and the potentiality of more conflict, asymmetrical or otherwise, goes untouched. Now what happens?

It retroactively justifies Nazi crimes so it lubes people up for new Nazi regimes in the west

>Noooooo don't criticize Israel!
>Don't you know bad things are happening in other countries too?

>>2401897
>don't criticize
Pretty sure the argument is "correctly criticize instead of moralizing".

>>2401901
Fuck off hasbara troll.

>>2401905
If enough people feel bad enough Israel will stop bombing kids any day now.

>>2401907
Cry harder Zionist.

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>>2401911
This state kills people in a worse way so clearly we must support the other. If only the state didn't kill people!

people whose ideology is reduced to vulgar anti amerikkkanism don't care when brown people do genocides and mass murders. also very inconvenient for them to criticize Tigray or Sudan since the heckin based russians and chinese (who are zionist themselves) were involved

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only a few thousand (rich) people died on 9/11, yet it is still a central historical event. history is unfair.

>>2401947
Truth Nuke

>>2401947
white people blow up rich African nations like Libya and then complain when Africans descend into violence and anarchy. sorry white boy you aren't going to get away with shifting blame.

>>2401974
>uhh its the logical conclusion!!
so is bourgeois nation states competing leading to wars yet bringing this basic fact gets you called an israel apologist or whatever

>b.. but what about other countries?? They do worse things than israel!!
Nice try Shmuley, how's the Tel Aviv real estate business going btw?

>>2401981
i love how when caught out at your attempt to shifting blame to black people you circle back to calling palestinians bourgeois lmao

>>2401985
>shifting blame to black people
?

>calling palestinians bourgeois

?

>>2401887
Israel's entire existence is subsidized by the US. 70% of their military expenditure since Oct 2023 was covered by the US. Furthermore, they're positioned to extinguish any and all Arab revolts in the region (as intended from the beginning), are global exporters of surveillance/enforcement tech, and play outsized roles in domestic US + international geopolitics (either by lobbying or blackmailing/pedo shit).

Any erosion of pissraeli moral standing in the US is an erosion of their umbilical cord, which is ultimately good for the whole world

>>2401985
Take your meds schizo.

>calling [state] bourgeois

States don't stop being bourgeois when being under attack.

>>2401981
>THE PALESTINIANS ARE BOURGEOIS AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE FIGHTING ISRAEL
lol the absolute state kill yourself Ziorat shill

>>2401974
white people invade vietnam then complain about PTSD

>>2401993
>wars under capitalism are an inevitability
<SO YOURE BLAMING PALESTINIANS???!!!!
its incredible how amerifats lack basic literacy skills

>>2401997
trvthnvke

>>2401998
Israeli apartheid and the genocide of Palestinians is not "inevitable under capitalism" dumbfuck

>>2401915
>>2401981
>state
Show me the palestinian "state" dipshit

There is only one state currently from the river to the sea and it's trying to exterminate half of its population

>>2401887
Jews are starving babies to death

I denounce the Talmud, Christ is King

>>2402009
"Israel" is not a state, is a jewish criminal outpost funded on stolen land

>>2402005
>wars are inevitable because capitalism forces nations to compete
<uhh ok but have you considered the specific way this specific war manifested??
this shithole is soo smart dude

>>2402009
>Palestine is not a country
Say what now?

>>2402009
a state being occupied doesnt stop making it a state somehow

>>2402018
>Apartheid and genocide is le capitalist "war"
Kill yourself ziorat

>>2402023
a military occupation is not a nation-state. calling "palestine" a bourgeois state is like calling Auschwitz a bourgeois state. makes absolutely zero sense and is completely out of touch with reality.

>>2402013
talmud in judaism is called "the oral torah", so when they speak about "torah", they often mean that.

>>2402033
Brother you're comparing Germany attacking a portion of its own population to a country invading another.

>>2402037
Auschwitz was in poland dummy

>>2402017
>>2402023
>>2402026
You guys are fucking retarded, I didn't expect this on a leftist forum. This is highschooler shit

Within the region proscribed by "Israel" on the map (including the territories it occupies), there is only one party that retains the 'legitimate' right to violence and enforcement of laws. For example, the Israeli government can declare it illegal for Palestinians in the WB to wear green T-shirts, and can enforce that rule. There is no "Palestinian" state because there is no analogous entity. The "Palestinian Authority" can only enforce rules that the Israeli govt allow, therefore they are just an extension of the Israeli govt. The situation used to be better in Gaza, but no longer. Israelis can dictate what streets Gazans are allowed to walk on, what food they're allowed to have, etc. All Palestinians are subject to the whims of the Israeli state alone. Hence - there is only one state between the river and the sea and it's engaged in mass extermination

>>2402026
palestine is not a self-governing entity you stupid fuck, it's completely and absolutely subordinated to israel. it doesn't even get to be called a state by the loosest criteria of state. kill yourself zioshit. no one will miss you anyway.

>>2402060
>>2402061
>they arent a REAL state because they lost
so if it doesnt exist anymore demanding a state comes back doesnt have anything to do with communism either

>>2402065
you're babbling nonsense, like a retard. kill yourself.

>>2402065
It's not a state because they are literally a stateless people, that's basically the whole basis for the conflict

>>2402065
They are full of shit anyways, palestinians effectively have not one but two states, as much rump and puppeted as they are, still states

>>2402013
>I denounce the Talmud, Christ is King
>>2402035
>talmud in judaism is called "the oral torah"
They don't like Christian proseltyzers there. It's partly for their own asinine religious reasons, but it's also one of the more annoying thing you guys do. There's a lot of things that Israel does that I think is criminal but you're not going to get away with that in China either.

>>2402208
christianity is rising in china

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>>2402208
>we support everything Israel does! we love jewish people! Jesus was a jew! Jesus loves you!
>you should be killed on the spot for being an idol worshipper!
this encourages missionaries though because persecution just confirms their beliefs

>>2402218
If it becomes a problem they'll falun gong them

>>2402223
>Go to Israel to convert the Jews to Jesus.
<Get told to fuck off and die
>Boo hoo we're persecuted
I mean yeah but what are they supposed to do

>>2402223
it's the one thing i agree with israel on, proseltysers are agents of warfare, no different to soldiers

>>2402223
Israel exists because american evangelists worship them as a holy cow.

>>2402237
We should do the same thing to the Jews here.

Le interimperialist conflict

>>2401897
>>2401905
>>2401911
It took a single reply for a zionist contrarian ChatGPT to start trying to pull the conversation back into boilerplate. Definitely saving OP's question for further pondering.

>>2402248
>should
You're not going to do shit. It's like saying "I should go to the gym."

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All of Zion's greatest warriors going real hard in this thread. And they do it for free too.

>>2401887
I know that if I spent like 45s googling sudan there'd be israeli fingerprints all over the conflict.

>>2401887
Jews just like killing goyim, their religious books teach them that it's a good thing. Thanks to the US they have the power to carry out holocausts again, so they're going to use it.

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>>2402387
Friendship ended with AOC now MTG is my best friend

>>2401974
>Unga bunga genocide is good when it’s africans doing it to africans!
The final stage of noble savage racism

>>2401985
Lol I actually am black and think it’s pretty fuckin vile to say an ongoing genocide leading to massive famine in Africa is unimportant because only Palestine matters, you could have replied that it isn’t a competition but were retarded enough to say filthy westerners shouldn’t care when genocides happen in Africa so long as Africans are doing it to other Africans, even if said westerners are communist internationalists that don’t have a moralistic attachment to a single crime

If you defend Israel under any context for any reason then you should kill yourself. It's that simple.

>>2402029
What the fuck do you think war is? Maybe if leftoids lost their bloodthirst and idealist belief in “good wars” and “good” reasons to engage in mass slaughters of the proletariat they would realize that rape, genocide, enslavement, marginalization, and subjugation is LITERALLY WHAT WAR IS

WAR IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE WORST INSTITUTION KNOWN TO MAN

IT IS LITERALLY THE PERIOD IN WHICH THE KNOWN RULE OF THE DAY IS THE SUSPENSION OF ALL KNOWN RULES IN FAVOR OF THE OBSCENE ENJOYMENT OF EXTREME VIOLENCE

The chance to enslave, murder indiscriminately, and destroy, tied to pretensions about honor and sacrifice and duty and the nation, are essentially the main psychological rewards for the soldier in favor of putting their own life and mind on the line for the objective imperatives of the given system they serve.

If you think these things are not what constitutes war, you’ve been letting the lies of nation states rot inside your mind

>>2402695
How is discussing a genocide in Sudan defending Israel? Take your meds mate.

>>2402693
What’s happening in Sudan matters alongside Congo, Cameroon, and the Sahel, however what’s happening in Palestine is arguably more in the power of American activists to end because unlike the RSF or Rwanda, Israel is very much paid for in our tax dollars. Your feelings make sense and people talking like that are glowies even if they’re not employed directly.

>>2402698
>genocide in Sudan
Declared by who?
>the United States by Antony Blinken
>The Economist
>

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>>2401887
>so now what happens
Imho, the reason we don't hear much about Sudan or Tigray or other ongoing genocides such as that in the Congo, is due to the mainstream media and what they believe will get the most views and which is the most relevant. Ultimately they control the narrative, and it's only thanks to tiktok that said monopoly on information is being challenged.

What happens is that most of the youth will wind up looking to alternate news sites, and journalists or media personalities which cover politics and global happenings be it Jacobin, Friendly Jordies or Hasan.


Besides, the reason why Palestine is more relevant in the western hemisphere is for two reasons.
1. Israel is economically and militarily backed by western govs, and Israel directly profiteers from that. Which brings us to point number 2.
2. Thanks to tiktok- and unintentionally the mainstream media, the pro-Palestinian support has skyrocketed in comparison to 2014 and the years afterwards. Such support has caught the attention of mainstream media outlets and thus compelling to go to point number 3.
Look at said alternative media as I stated earlier.

>>2402698
>How is discussing a genocide in Sudan defending Israel? Take your meds mate.
Where did this thread discuss Sudan? How is it related to Israel? You're not slick hasbara troll. I've seen you guys make this EXACT same post dozens of times in the last 2 years.

>Buuu butu bututut why don't you care about Sudan? Why are you obsessed with Israel? Is it because they're Jewish?


EXACT SAME FUCKING POST!! Like almost word for word and you think this time we're going to fall for it.

>>2402776
The OP is literally about Sudan
You’re the one dedicated to claiming the genocide in that country is irrelevant and not happening
>>2402758
Forgot point 3
People don’t give a fuck about Africans dying and have fully integrated genociding Africans as a normal part of their worldview, much as how a liberal Zionist treats a Palestinian in fact

>>2402833
>The OP is literally about Sudan
Just because you mentioned Sudan doesn't mean it's about Sudan. It's about you complaining about people talking about Israel. You would've posted about Sudan if you wanted to raise awareness about it or if you actually had any interest in it.

You're so fucking transparent.

>>2402836
And once again I've seen your OP ALMOST WORD FOR WORD. Here on leftypol and posted on twitter frequently. I'm going to do that next. Start posting the examples from twitter. This shit is straight out of the hasbara training manual. Textbook.

>>2402836
I’m not OP my schizophrenic freakazoid
And OP actually is right to ask why one issue gets attention but not another, Palestine moralists reveal how retarded they actually are when a few comments easily explained rational reasons as to why, from the amount of funding Israel receives from the US to the unsettling lack of daylight between the two shitholes; unfortunately moralists can’t help but seethe incoherently when questioned on moralism, it doesn’t strike you as a self-own that your only response when asked why 600,000 dead Sudanese doesn’t matter to you was to seethe incoherently instead of answering the damn question?

Moralism = brainlet politics

>>2402838
>Dork on imageboard can’t comprehend being questioned by more than a single individual

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>ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE‼️

>Why is the Palestinian plight at the forefront of the news?

>Why not Congo, Sudan, Syria?

>>2402839
>>2402840
Your hasbara is too weak. Why are they sending the rookies to /leftypol/. Tell them they need to send their better soldiers. Gay Nazi runs circles around you.

>>2402841
There are threads about the atrocities all throughout Africa on this very board, the denizens of this site ignore them, because they are apathetic to those events

>>2402843
>Question liberal moralism
<Get called a jewish agent
I cant with moralists 😂

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>None of the ignorant teenagers with Palestinian flags in their bio care about African schoolgirls being kidnapped by terrorists or civilians being massacred in Sudan. They don't even care about the U.S. supporting Saudi Arabia.

>This is about hating Jews, not saving lives.


I'm telling you guys. You can't fool me with hasbara 101. I've literally seen this one like multiple times a week for the last 2 years.

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And yeah a lot of us have been trying to awaken the people to see the evil doings of Israel longer than any of those other conflicts have been going on.

But you're burning out the whole world on the hasbara. You're doing too much at once. It makes the hypnosis wear off.

>>2402845
ye there's like two or three zionists currently doing hasbara on leftypol, i hope they're paid for this embarrassing effort

>>2401887
>If making Israel look
Nothing happens. Most ,even in the socialist left, will be cheering for the reheated "two state solution" and the following "accords". By which the genocidal achievements of zionism are legally blessed and the intersts of NATO in the region are preserved, as the compradors kiss the ring.

And so it will be with Sudan, and DRC and Somalia and whatever else… Happy the "killing is ending" and hungry for tokens to read them the sweet absolving lies.

>>2402852
Gaza sacrificed itself to awaken the people. Let's not forget them.

>>2402758
>Imho, the reason we don't hear much about Sudan or Tigray or other ongoing genocides such as that in the Congo, is due to the mainstream media and what they believe will get the most views and which is the most relevant.
This is true but the media isn't wrong. Run a news website and publish stories about Sudan and Tigray and watch your traffic plummet.

>>2401887
>The bourgeois apparatus stays the same and the potentiality of more conflict, asymmetrical or otherwise, goes untouched.
idk why every moron is ignoring the most important part of the post just to screech hysterically about le vibes

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>>2401887
>If making Israel look more morally decrepit than Nazi Germany is the intent, what's the point?
Why does that bother you? Do you think they do look more decrepit? Why do you?

>>2402833
>People don’t give a fuck about Africans dying and have fully integrated genociding Africans as a normal part of their worldview, much as how a liberal Zionist treats a Palestinian in fact
Anon, out of curiosity what country are you posting from?

>>2401887
the moral image war is just a side hustle or colateral effect, the true issue is winning economically and militarily you fucking media faggot

soy Contrapoints liberals: "what's the point? What happens? What happens???"
>>2402698
>How is discussing a genocide in Sudan defending Israel?
https://nypost.com/2025/01/09/us-news/sen-fetterman-rips-anti-israel-dopes-who-arent-protesting-actual-genocide-in-sudan/
>>2402693
>I actually am black and think it’s pretty fuckin vile to say an ongoing genocide leading to massive famine in Africa is unimportant because only Palestine matters,
Ok John Fetterman
>filthy westerners
Zionist NPC dialog always calling people filthy lmao
>when genocides happen in Africa
Zionists will never use active language to say who is doing the killing

>>2403066
you don't win economically by white south africaing yourself. israel is a tiny skid mark of a country that can't survive without gibs.

>>2401887
If making Palestine (or even Sudan) look like a more morally pressing issue than the millions suffering under wage slavery domestically is the intent, what's the point? Its like if Lenin focused 99% of his attention on the Armenian Genocide instead of abolishing capitalism domestically.

>>2401890
>It retroactively justifies Nazi crimes
Except well over half of the people nazis killed weren't Jews, and what zionazis do in Israel doesn't by any sound logic justify what Nazis did to German Jews 80 years ago. Also Nazis were downright supportive of Zionism at points, albeit for the opportunistic reason of rapidly deporting Jews from Europe.


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