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Given that even in the post-war US R&D was dominated by government investment.
(This is following the replacement of tariffs following the failure of the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act with R&D expenditure.)
It seems reasonable that an economic system could be developed on the basis of firm cooperation in science.
This is similar to what was advocated in the reduction of "excess competition" in Japanese economic planning.
And interestingly much of the time of high speed growth MITI (the Japanese planning agency) operated effectively as if there was a "national patent trust".
By negotiating acquisition of foreign technology and encouraging sharing of this technology between firms.
In this context there is little reasons for competition in the sphere of the advancement of science, by contrast to application of this science.
(Imagine there'd be a ton of reverse engineering, and the like; and super-profits from rent-seeking with intellectual property would go way down.)
Am especially interested in software with respect to this, would firms eventually give up on obfuscation, of would it be necessary to somehow restrict access to uncooperative actors.
Given free-software is already an extremely common phenomenon even among corporate actors, such as Microsoft.

Feel free to discuss other aspects of R&D.

what do you think would happen if IP was abolished?

>>2403190
That's the question, without financial incentives the government would have to step in to a greater degree.
That is it would have to go back to the way it was like in the 60s, but more so.
That they have to already to cover basic research and long-term investments in the national economy which short-term profit seeking can't is also relevant.
But am not sure that it would workout without some mechanism to coerce cooperation among actors, that is to prevent free-riders.
Am also not sure it would work in industries of pure IP creation like software, and yet very often it does, or software is part of an embedded system anyway, etc.

>>2403201
>some mechanism to coerce cooperation among actors, this is to prevent free-riders.
Isn't this just copyleft e.g. register all technology which uses technology in the patent trust.

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Was there ever any advocacy from pic rel. concerning a patent trust or similar?
Know they're actually interested in technological progress that would ensue from removing patents.
But does that apply to other countries as well?
This is hard to imagine.

>>2403183
I think in this time of monopoly capital we cannot rely on the state or capital to industrialize. You also mention Free Software, you confuse Free Software with Open Source and the attempts of the bourgeoisie to embrace, extend and extinguish Free Software.

Anyhow I think the working class must organize to industrialize the periphery and undeveloped sectors of the economy such as housing and domestic labor. I am still figuring this out but I think a worker cooperative model may be appropriate to the workers pushing for the industrialization of a non-industrial sector. I am still not sure how the workers should best organize to industrialize. Free Software is definitely a major success story here though.

>>2403823
IDK I think a lot about this stuff.

Organizing the workers is the beginning of the struggle, seizing the state-monopoly capital is the end of the struggle. In between, industry and finance we have HR and tech. I think free software is a decent beginning to struggle against the real subsumption of labor. But how do we struggle against human resources? I think the matter ultimately comes into worker cooperatives.


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