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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

From a FB friend who is a full professor at Yonsei University, one of South Korea's most prestigious universities:

If Zohran Mamdani were a sensible socialist who had a basic awareness of Maslow's hierarchy, he would realize that the most destructive source of inequality in the US as well as in Uganda is the difference in exposure to crime and other dangers between the rich and the rest of the population. The rich in poor countries are protected by bodyguards, and so can maintain their lifestyles even as crime remains rampant and afflicts the lives of those with lower incomes.
Crime depoliticizes - and radicalizes. It discourages political expression by turning public spaces off-limits to political protest. A big reason why South Korea has an active political culture is because the streets are safe and no one worries about getting mugged at night. One possible path to authoritarianism in such a country would be if the government decided to import an underclass that would increase the perception of public danger.
Mamdani's wedding in Uganda was protected by two dozen special forces operatives. Why not extend such privileges to New Yorkers, many of whom are becoming too worried to use the subways? Wouldn't a true luxury automated communism make security equality also, and offer every citizen a personal bodyguard? Instead, Mamdani wants to de-fund the police and make NYC more dangerous.

Article about Mamdani's heavily armed compound wedding: https://nypost.com/2025/07/26/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-presidential-style-uganda-wedding-bash/

My own comment on his post:

The problem with American police is that they're thugs-for-hire who pull guns on kids, women, the disabled, etc. I've had personal experience with the cops acting like tough guys when my disabled brother had schizoaffective episodes. The police in high-trust societies like China, Korea, and Japan don't act like this. You can safely call the cops to resolve a dispute and they're not going to show up and kill someone. Defund the police is a suicidal policy, but there needs to be major reforms in American policing, especially in regards to recruitment, training, and staffing.

13 12 smoke a pig, call em brisket

>>2406038
Show me one socialist state that has ever abolished the police

>>2406038
>>2406044

you forgot to change your IP and flag before responding to yourself

>>2406049
the post is a copy paste from the anti-zohran twitter bot

>South Korea's most prestigious universities
Lol.

>Maslow's hierarchy

Lul.

>South Korea has an active political culture

LOL

He literally proposes community workers and crisis response teams to replace policy you ai bot.

Why do we want more police?

>>2406018
Mamdani wants to abolish the police but increase the anti-semitism programs by 800%

Police mostly fucks the lumpens while gangs fuck everyone. So lumpens are ok with abolishing the police while the rest are not ok. Rich can have bodyguards though. So rich are ok with underpolicing too. Therefore lumpen and the rich are aligned when it comes to the police question

Defunding the police will just lead to workers and petit bourgeosie collaborating with each other against the lumpens and a kind of a fascism

Yes more money for the most bloated police department of all time, Israel cops need more free training in rap…, uh I mean enhanced interrogation techniques and stuff

NOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THE CAPITALIST GESTAPOS ARMORED VEHICLES!

Defunding police while maintaining capitalism

Counterpoint: the NYPD is a politicized gang and needs to be disempowered

>>2406094
>>2406100
>police only ever fuck with lumpen
Just say you hate black people, Christ.

>>2406044
>>2406094
All communist revolutions that have existed depend on the abolition of the bourgeois state to implement the dictatorship of the proletariat without exception to socialize the economy. Whether the Bolsheviks or any communist party, implementing the workers' popular militia with the Red Guard and eventually forming a Red Army that will serve the supremacy of the proletariat depends on the abolition of all institutions that maintain the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. To have a revolution in a revolutionary situation, you cannot have subordinations to the state of class conciliation or believe that the institutions of the bourgeois state are neutral.

If you don't believe what I'm writing then I'll put a quote from Lenin himself before the revolution:

<In Russia at the present moment, when the Provisional Government, which is part and parcel of the capitalist class and enjoys the confidence—necessarily unstable—of the broad mass of the petty-bourgeois population, has undertaken to convene a Constituent Assembly, the immediate duty of the party of the proletariat is to fight for a political system which will best guarantee economic progress and the rights of the people in general, and make possible the least painful transition to socialism in particular.


<The party of the proletariat cannot rest content with a bourgeois parliamentary democratic republic, which throughout the world preserves and strives to perpetuate the monarchist instruments for the oppression of the masses, namely, the police, the standing army, and the privileged bureaucracy.


<The party fights for a more democratic workers’ and peasants’ republic, in which the police and the standing army will be abolished and replaced by the universally armed people, by a people’s militia; all officials will be not only elective, but also subject to recall at any time upon the demand of a majority of the electors; all employees, without exception, will be paid at a rate not exceeding the average wage of a competent worker; parliamentary representative institutions will be gradually replaced by Soviets of people’s representatives (from various classes and professions, or from various localities), functioning as both legislative and executive bodies.


[…]

<Furthermore, the Party under all circumstances, and whatever the conditions of democratic agrarian reform may be, will unswervingly work for the independent class organization of the rural proletariat, will explain to the latter the irreconcilable antagonisms that exist between it and the peasant bourgeoisie, will warn it against the false attraction of the system of petty farming, which, while commodity production exists, can never do away with the poverty of the masses, and, finally, will urge the need for a complete socialist revolution as the only means of abolishing poverty and exploitation.


<In the endeavor to achieve its immediate aims, the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party supports every oppositional and revolutionary movement directed against the existing social and political set-up in Russia, but at the same time emphatically rejects all reformist projects involving any expansion or consolidation of the guardianship of the police and bureaucracy over the laboring masses.


<V. I. Lenin, 1917, Materials Relating to the Revision of the Party Programme, "Chapter 4. Draft of Revised Programme"


https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/reviprog/ch04.htm

All this is the duty of every revolutionary socialist to advance the class struggle of the masses so that popular councils can develop within the bourgeois state, preparing for a future revolutionary situation to overthrow the capitalist state and establish the dictatorship of the proletariat, spreading terror against the enemies of the supremacy of the proletariat and facilitating the expropriations that must be carried out. The rest will be organized within the proletarian state after consolidating power, and any coward who denies this is an anti-Marxist counterrevolutionary who must be defeated and crushed as an enemy.

>>2406136
Are you for abolishing the police or not?

Kill all cops

I dont think they will defund the police. If not police then national guard will do patrols and curfews.

>>2406137
To carry out the revolution, the police and the army must be abolished, so the answer is yes, so that the capitalist state can be overthrown and the proletarian state can be established to exercise its power in the future.

>>2406049
Different user

>>2406060
South Koreans have overthrown, impeached, or assassinated nearly every right-wing president they've had. Yoon was ousted for trying to declare martial law. Americans can't even get rid of Trump.

Fear of gangs is a petit bourgeosie overreaction. Gangs are a tiny minority. Chances of being mugged and killed are relatively small. Gangs only hold their own territoty so you might not even live in gang territory. Besides, if you end up being lumpen you might join a gang. Petty individual crime exist with or without police either way. Most targets of such crimes are shops. Criminals are unemployed people. Capitalism breeds crime then fucks the lumpens it created.

>>2406149
Ok i agree it makes sense

I trust the Korean people's understanding of how to build a socialist movement than fucking New Yorkers.

Do you guys think mamdani will defund the police

OP, I am not sure what you are trying to achieve with this citation beyond proving that your professor friend is a fucking moron who is completely detached from the burger reality.

>Dumbass OP on fedbook whose Professor friend is from one of the countries most cucked by U.S. imperialism in existence says the police are le good
I'm supposed to care, why?

>>2406049
>>2406060
You're arguing with a bad-faith concern troll that was doing CECOT apologia last time they were here.

>>2406044
Socialist state is an oxymoron.

>>2406166
He lived most of his life in the US. And Korean academia is actually serious unlike American university culture.


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