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Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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Previous Thread: >>2410301

Can we bury the hatchet Mick? Or are we going to turn this into another full thread of you seething?

there's always hexbear

we must consider that the shitposting is being done by the feds to drive people off the site and fracture the userbase or feed us into a honeypot, in which case leaving is playing into their hands.

but if that's the case the mods are complicit for not cracking down on the shitposting so we should leave anyways

This whole thing is built on sand and scams yet the bottom hasn’t fallen out yet. The entire country is like Wil-E-Coyote going off a cliff but we went off that cliff in the late 70s and just never looked down and fell.

>Originally the term Treats was coined by Chapo Trap House co-host Matt Treatler
Is this true?

>>2411300
it is now

>>2411296
hexbear is horrid, we should just make a new lemmy server with blackjack and hookers

>On Thursday, the State Department imposed sanctions on the PLO, for among other things “taking actions to internationalise its conflict with Israel such as through the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice”.

>>2411300
I cannot believe I forgot to add his last name, whoops… but yes Treats came from Matt Christman

Reminder that China will defeat your cursed empire and that you, your children, and your grandchildren will live looking up to the People’s Republic of China.

>>2411300
It was in one of his vlogs, he meant it to describe people who abuse customer service workers and those who would unironically endorse the use of congolese slavery in the creation of electronics.

>>2411309
I for one, can’t wait to be a civil servant in the American Democratic Republic

>>2411304
you are now a terrorist for working with the international court of justice

>>2411306
>reddit spacing
Mossad ain't sending thier best.

>>2411306
You’re being a histrionic pussy, he’ll get tired eventually, have a thicker skin it’s just text on your phone or pc.

>>2411295
>>2411312
can both of you just not?

>>2411318
they're both bots, just ignore

obvious bots n here tiday, 600 posts in 8 hrs



Previously Immortalized Antics
see txt

>>2411325
>you MUTTS are RACIST
uhhhhhhh

Back on topic

Hey you know how we were talking about how Hillary wrote that stupid cope book after she lost? Well it looks like Kopmala is writing one too!

https://kamalaharris.link/107DaysBook

long covid status?

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>>2411319
>>2411320
Just one terminally online Mick. I was also not trying to focus on him, but the whole gaggle of idiots, foreign and domestic that don't do anything but troll the thread:

>Hahhaha you're all obese Amerimutt obese dysgenic treatlerite drug addicts!


Some domestic posters like Felix fit in this category. Absolutely nothing productive has ever been added by them, they just troll this thread within the boundaries of perhaps not being "/pol/" but trolling is still against the rules supposedly.

>2) Spam and malicious flooding is banned. This includes flooding a thread in protest, posting off-topic content in unrelated threads, and soyjak spam (quoting with no meaningful addition). Bot spam will result in a permanent ban. If you wish to make a post to advertise another site such as an imageboard or Discord server, contact the moderators first for clearance.


>11) Posts should, overall, be conductive to an informed and productive discussion. /leftypol/ is not an academic journal, but it also should not be a cesspit of back and forth bickering and pointless insults. Users should attempt to argue for the point they are presenting in an honest and open way and should be receptive to information or arguments that do, in fact, challenge their views.

>>2411325
>goes into burger containment thread
<WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DISGUSTING MISCEGENATING RACISTS IN THE BURGER CONTAINMENT THREAD?!?!?!
lol


>>2411329
I don't think I will ever be as smart as i was in 2019 again. and I don't even use drugs or alcohol.

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>>2411325
>calls people amerimutts
>whines about racism
Retard or chatgpt using retard.

>>2411335
That’s fucked

>>2411328
Who would even buy this? It's obvious why Kamala lost, people didn't like inflation, and the young didn't like her stance on Palestine. Also there is the small bit of median voter retardation where they didn't like all the immigrants Biden let in but now that they're being deported they like them now. Probably didn't make a difference compared to the other two big ones though.

>>2411344
tbf I don't know how much of it is long covid, how much of it is aging, and how much of it was random blunt force trauma to the head I took over the years

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>>2411338
Is Mick really racist? People even go by Mac as a nickname.

I'm not a racist, some of my best friends have been Irish. Maybe I'm part Irish. I don't think so, I think just part Scottish, but almost, dunno, never did a DNA test, maybe I'll be surprised by my lucky cloverleaf blood.

>>2411347
Irish people are based
Only a filthy angloid would hate on the irish

>>2411347
I thought Mick was the Irish equivalent of calling a hispanic dude spic or an italian dude wop: definitely not N word tier but not exactly polite either.

>>2411296
Hexbear is full of libs

>>2411349
calling someone mick in 2025 hits about as hard as calling them papist

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>>2411349
>I thought Mick was the Irish equivalent of calling a hispanic dude spic or an italian dude wop: definitely not N word tier but not exactly polite either.
No it's in the realm of real name "slurs" if you want to call them like saying:
>Ivan
>Pablo
>Nigel(don't know how widespread that one is but I like it.)
>Tyrone
>Shlomo
Etc. I guess the offensiveness all depends on how sensitive that group is and how vitriolic the people who use it as a slur are.

I don't think there are any American equivalents that even boarder offensive.
>Johnny?
>Jack?


>>2411357
(context, he is describing going to CPAC on acid)

>>2411354
This place will have the longest arguments over the most random and dumb shit

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The least corrupt administration in history

>>2411357
so grillpilling is the final evolution of fascism?

>>2411242
A couple threads back I talked about how an over-emphasis on internationalism kind of fucked the American Left, and looking at the state of the previous thread, examine things:

Has there ever been a period since the fall of the USSR in which our “international comrades” came to the aid of American workers? Any time at all? Can one person on here name a time that our dear international comrades really helped us since the USSR died?

Now there are plenty of good-hearted American comrades who’ll go to protests over the Cuban blockade, or attempt to send aid to Gaza, or what have you. Yet I’ve yet to see a case of international communists helping our workers or our parties since 91. In fact, according to some on here, our international comrades see us as the enemy; not because of anything we do, but because we haven’t given them enough yet. They’re demanding we get ourselves killed, and even when they get what they want it ends up being a punchline to a joke for them. Seriously, these people treat you like dirt and give nothing in return for any effort expended on them.

So without quoting dogma, can anyone explain, practically, what we’re getting from internationalism? They’re insisting we can’t even attempt to shelter our own people because “muh imperialism” so what’s the point in engaging with people who don’t have your back?

Can anyone point to even one reason to just associate with these people?

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>Some critics have noted that the title also plays on shock value—“mick” is an ethnic slur in some contexts—suggesting that the show’s provocative tone extends even to its name latimes.com. But in-universe, it's purely a shortened form of her name.

And her husband Rob McElhenney played a character name "MAC?" CANCEL THEM!

>>2411366
Well I think it's already been established at this point that we cant rely on Russian and/or Chinese aid to liberate Turtle Island, that's going to be a project we'll have to do outside the system of any given state network including our own local party politics, except to radicalize others

>>2411364
Romanov levels of decadence and extravagance

>>2411296
Maybe. Wonder how the moderation tools are there

>>2411366
i mean internationally there was attempts to help people in Hurricane Katrina but the government blocked it.


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>>2411365
einstein says don't grillpill

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>>2411378
>>2411375
well the USA uses foreign aid as a trojan horse so naturally US glowies and leaders would assume the same about foreign aid coming to the US. basic projection 101

>>2411375
America loathes Louisiana

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>>2411364
>>2411370
gotta make the norther white house look more like the southern white house

>>2411282
If you're still here, Telegram seems to be the Ol' Reliable of group organization. (especially illicit) I know that the Infrared algorithm manipulation cabal quite likes using it, among many other groups. (IIRC ISIS was noted as using it at some point?) Although I'm sure it's not the only of its kind.

I guess if you're feeling nostalgic, you can make a private forum or TeamSpeak server?

>>2411364
lol he wants to build this for a ufc event he is planning with dana white

>>2411390
Signal is good too. Personally think it'd be cool if the left could get the same social media juggernaut going that neonazis/fascists have right now.

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Reading a Chinese paper: "On the Characteristics of American Culture and Its Shaping of American Psyche" by Lin Xia

>>2411360
very accurate
>>2411383
lol that's awesome

>>2411366
>>2411399
bot?

I joined a union and these people have absolutely zero revolutionary potential. They are obsessed with TV and Comic books and know nothing about politics at all. All they want to talk about is what capeshit they are going to consume next. None of them have ever read Marx, Lenin or Engels.

The idea that this is how you build revolutionary power is absolutely laughable. All the union does for these people is make them slightly better paid than average hotel staff.

Guys we should just leave

>>2411411
>he fell for it
hahahaha

New tariffs announced, they go live in 7 days

Canada: Tariffs raised from 25% to 35%
Switzerland: 39%
South Africa: 30%
Taiwan: 20%
Vietnam: 20%
Cambodia: 19%
Thailand: 19%
Malaysia: 19%
Indonesia: 19%
Turkey: 15%
Venezuela: 15%

Also it really didn't take long for "C"PUSSAnon to take off his mask and start arguing for national socialism, did it? In a real left wing community he'd be hounded to suicide or dragged in the basement and shot, but this community is about as left wing as the Condor Legion.

>>2411411
capeshit is the opium of the masses

https://paydayreport.com/chris-smalls-union-prez-teamsters-sean-obrien-silent-on-beating-by-idf-promotes-right-winger-on-social-media-instead/?ref=payday-report-newsletter

Chris Smalls' Union Prez, Teamsters' Sean O'Brien Silent on Beating by IDF - Goes on Vivek Ramaswany's Right Wing Show Instead

>Good morning from Pittsburgh, where we are tracking a big story for the labor movement: Amazon Labor Union founder Chris Smalls was beaten after the IDF arrested him while trying to break the siege of Gaza with the Freedom Flotilla Coalition.


>"As a union, we are demanding the immediate release of Chris Smalls and all captured activists," said the 29,000-member California Faculty Association in a statement late Monday. "We further call for an immediate end to the engineered famine and deliberate starving of the people in Gaza, labor complicity with genocide, and all US military aid to Israel".


>Other unions are expected to denounce the beating & detention of Smalls by the IDF.


>However, his international union leader, Teamsters union President Sean O'Brien, has stayed silent on the detention of Smalls, who founded the Amazon Labor Union, which is now an affiliate of the Teamsters.


>Instead, the Teamsters President Sean O'Brien took to social media to advertise his upcoming interview with fascist commentator Vivek Ramaswamy and his 3 million right-wing followers.

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>>2411419
>In a real left wing community he'd be hounded to suicide
all we do on here is tell each other to kill ourselves
>dragged in the basement and shot
ok bro just find him and do it. y'all are on the same coast

>>2411411
>how dare people not be theory autists and have hobbies and enjoy entertainment

>>2411411
Do you think third world comrades have it any easier when they’re dealing with people who have only ever read the bible or the quran?

>>2411420
Capeshit is literally vetted by the Pentagon to maximize its value as pro-capitalist, pro-American propaganda. It is inherently reactionary and so are all it's fans, regardless of if they realize it or not.

>>2411422
>n=6
very syintiffik

>>2411424
to be revolutionary you must

1: no fap
2: vegan
3: exercise
4: always read theory or nonfiction or history or scientific papers
5: never consoom fiction ofr v*deo games
6: not have a family or friends
7: be in a vanguard party
8: be a reserveless, propertyless immiserated wage worker who makes below subsistence

if you do not meet these criteria you are a degenerate petty booj who will be dragged to the basement kicking and screaming and pleading for forgiveness for your crime of wasting prole oxygen

>>2411399
>there's a distinct lack of internationalism now
>therefore the problem is internationalism

>>2411426
iron man 1 is the most GWOT fellating movie

>>2411423
>you might live to see the first IRL leftypol purge
KILL KILL KILL KILL

>>2411419
He's always been a catholic fascist.

>>2411430
Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight is a serious contender for that title, I remember being a kid and deeply uncomfortable with how it shows mass digital surveillance as necessary to defeat our enemies who are just want to watch the world burn

>>2411431
This is why just fucking off and making a separate community sounds more appealing

Dealing with attention seekers and LARPers when you’re trying to talk about current events is getting old

>>2411423
Threats from Felix are unironically the least threatening thing I can imagine. The dude will be claiming he’s training an army for the next 10 years just to kill me. It’s not worth taking seriously


>>2411424
Communism isn’t “fun”

>>2411383
Makes me think of johncena141, a real one, self advocated communist and doing the praxis by uploading thousands of torrents of linux games

>>2411435
I wouldn’t say it’s a “good” thing necessarily but Xbox live lobbies back in the say made me numb to the hollow internet threats and insults that people like iron felix dish out, and hey, Gears of War does have a nominally socialist setting

>>2411433
the one with bane is even more right wing. it goes out of its way to depict revolutionary tribunals as a bad thing

>>2411438
Tell that to Cubans, they fucking love festivals and street parades

>>2411436
no i want this community specifically

>>2411441
The thing with Rises is it’s much more blatant with its politics than The Dark Knight, the insidious politics of that movie were obscured by how enraptured people were with Ledger’s performance

>>2411440
i once beat someone in the most low stakes stupid game called Gang Beasts which is basically just ragdoll gummy bears fighting each other and he just went apeshit screaming nyghur at me for the next 5 rounds lol

>>2411441
The current discourse on tumblr is bitching about how leftists don't complain about the orientalism and islamophobia of ras al ghul and bane more than they point out the anti occupy stuff.

>>2411433
Taken purely as pulp entertainment The Dark Knight is one of the heights of the cape genre with lots to appreciate, but its politics get worse the longer you look, and it uses its film-noir moral ambiguity as plausible deniability. It’s a difficult movie to digest in some ways

Nolan’s a politically weird filmmaker in general, post-Batman you can make the case that there’s an understated leftward turn in his work. Everybody who claimed Oppenheimer was pro-empire either didn’t watch or didn’t pay attention, the movie openly depicts the guy as a selfish opportunist who sold his soul to the American military machine and condemns him to the hell of his own conscience by the end


>>2411449
ras al ghul? ain't that the ACP dude?

>>2411448
This happens to me more often now. I'm simply minding my own business playing the game and some asshole has to take personally. It amused me as a teenager but getting older it just gets old and annoying.

>>2411450
This is how filmmakers and art critics in the early Soviet Union felt about D W Griffith

>>2411426
oh btw I torrented baader mienhoff complex because of that screenshot you posted from it lol. haven't watched it yet

>>2411456
>nolan is 21st century Griffith
That’s…. Not wrong

>>2411451
The funniest part of this is not just taking Halo multiplayer seriously enough to get that irate but specifically the Big Team Battle maps with tanks

>>2411459
Oppenheimer is Nolan’s Broken Butterly

>>2411440
I thought Gears of War was fascist? Never played much beyond the third one I think but I remember something about the setting being some totalitarian state with literal rape camps to get fertility up.

That said, all of Felix’s critiques amount to aesthetic ones, he engages in the exact same behavior of doing nothing until “conditions are ripe” but whereas he decries others trying to build mass support, his excuse for procrastination is “it takes time to build an army”. He isn’t building shit, he just wants to LARP as a digital soldier.

And assuming he does actually go out of his way to try to kill me? Well then it’d prove everything we already know about the guy. He couldn’t get off his ass for Gaza, or ICE, or any number of the real problems effecting the world, but he’s a totally willing to take action if it means killing some grocery store worker who hurt his widdle feelings.

>>2411433
TDK is like an allegory for GWOT but Iron Man is like directly about it.

>>2411419
this is like the dozenth time someone has said this about him, you fuckers are just not actually paying attention

>>2411465
Consider that you have a picture up on him and a location, you could go north instead

>>2411465
For Gears, the lore before the Emergence and apocalyptic war with the Locust is there was a global war for immulsion which is the setting’s oil, the COG are supposed to be the socialist faction fighting (complete with a Marx and Lenin stand ins) against a NATO stand in called the Alliance of Independent Nations. Using women as literal cattle only happens when the locust essentially turn the entire planet into conditions like Gaza.

>>2411470
How did the locust become an advanced industrial civilization without anyone on the surface noticing

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>>2411459
who is 21st century sergei eisenstein?

The mass push for online identification, ID verification, tracking, censorship makes me realize that something vastly unpopular is on the horizon and they're preparing to silence all dissent.

Draft? WW3?

>>2411473
That’s the thing, the locust and all the other monsters beneath the ground are just humans mutated by immulsion exposure, if it’s an ideological critique of socialism, it’s that it didn’t break dependence on finite resources that destroy the environment.

>>2411475
Hideaki Anno

>>2411473
The locust existed undergound for who knows how long with their own self contained ecosystem in like a hollow earth situation before the humans on the surface started mining for the oil analogue.

>>2411476
The funniest case scenario is we get drafted to enforce a coup against Benjamin Netanyahu and have to defend secular jewish houses from Likudnik and Kach miltias

>>2411477
>the locust and all the other monsters beneath the ground are just humans mutated by immulsion exposure

Oh what, that's fucked up.

But how does that make any sense, that there is like an endless supply of locust, and enough even to overwhelm the entire surface planet

>>2411458
>>2411478
I want to call bullshit, but Anno definitely has a distinctive editing style that’s uniquely his. Watching an Anno movie feels like having your brain plugged directly into an instagram feed

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>>2411446
>The thing with Rises is it’s much more blatant with its politics than The Dark Knight, the insidious politics of that movie were obscured by how enraptured people were with Ledger’s performance
That's true. Man, I hated that last one so much. Nolan wants to be portentous but he's just pretentious. That movie looked stupid too. I was watching Gary Oldman flail around in the truck with the ticking time bomb (such a hacky plot device, which is fine, but don't pretend it's some sublime take on the story) and laughed at how dumb it looked. I'd probably give Zack Snyder's 300 the W.E.B. Griffin award though.

I like my Batman in the animated series / dark-comic Tim Burton style.

>>2411480
>The funniest case scenario is we get drafted to enforce a coup against Benjamin Netanyahu and have to defend secular jewish houses from Likudnik and Kach miltias
the US helped create nazism and then did damage control when the soviets started winning so this sounds plausible for israel. wait until we start hearing about "kahanism" and "likudism" like israel would be a decent normal state without them.

>>2411482
I was kinda being tongue in cheek, but the Japanese cut of Shin Godzilla feels more like Potemkin than any other modern movie I've seen.

>>2411417
Crazy he went from all those crazy ass high numbers to these normal sounding ones in a few months. Although Canada, Switzerland, and South Africa's numbers are still insane

>>2411484
>I was watching Gary Oldman flail around in the truck with the ticking time bomb (such a hacky plot device)
the ending of dark knight rises was literally this shit but played seriously

Out of pure curiosity, do any of my fellow Comrades know of any Communist book stores in the Greater Los Angeles area, as I usually read Marxist-Leninist-Maoist texts online in PDF form (usually from Marxists.org, Bannedthought.net, Massline.org, etc.), and as embarrassing as it is to admit this, the only Communist Book that I own a hard copy of is the Communist Manifesto (I bought this for a University Class a while ago before I became a Maoist), so I wanted to buy actual Hard copies of Books that I already have fully read (or at least skimmed) online (particularly, “State and Revolution”, “Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism”, “Foundations of Leninism”, “Marxism and the National Question”, “Das Kapital”, “The German Ideology”, “On Practice and Contradiction”, and “On Protracted War”), due to the fact that I am concerned that eventually you wont be able to access this information on the Internet, and that the Internet itself (especially Social Media, including Forums and Imageboards such as this website) could become impossible to access without providing Government ID (their is already a Law in Mississippi doing this for Social Media, and I have seen reports that even California passed something similar late last year that will take effect in 2027, and if Trump uses the Insurrection Act to declare Martial Law and suspend all Elections, they will probably shut down all Leftist websites and ban all Books but the Bible and the Art of the Deal, 😂🤣🤢🤮!), and I know most people will say to buy these books on Amazon or the Barnes and Nobles website, but I am not comfortable buying these books online for obvious reasons, and would much rather buy them with Cash at a Brick and Mortar store, with the caveat that one of the only places I could find that I now sell Communist Books in a brick and mortar store setting, is located in a very sketchy neighborhood in South LA, so I was hoping that their was somewhere else that sold them in a Brick and Mortar setting, 🤔?

>>2411482 (me)

sorry meant for
>>2411475
>>2411478

>>2411486
I personally like the more grounded style of Batman, but it needs to be done with finesse to avoid coming off pretentious. I think the Pattinson one did a good job of balancing a more grounded setting with a more stylized/operatic tone that fits a comic book world, it felt like a decent middle ground between Nolan and Burton/the 90s cartoon

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>>2411233
>>2411285
Daily reminder that Jack Dorsey is the man that singlehandedly ruined the Internet.
>>2411284
The Left is basically stuck in the 90s. They don't want to admit it but they are still one of the few people that believe in the End of History.
>>2411328
I'll never get how people like to say "Kamala didn't have time to campaign" when Mark Carney went from a longshot placeholder candidate to Prime Minister of Canada in slightly less time.
>>2411332
>Rule 11
Doesn't exist. Trolls can basically do whatever they want here because people here think that banning them means that they lose the Online Debate.
>>2411476
>Draft? WW3?
I'd love to see them try.

>>2411493
Shin Godzilla is legitimately one of the best IP-slop movies I’ve ever seen. It actually makes that big goofy motherfucker genuinely scary and intimidating. That movie walked so Minus One could run

>>2411476
>Draft? WW3?

Probably. Like I don't think nato is demanding all this investment for nothing. Even if ww3 isn't on the menu, the internet has been a nightmare for the bourgeoisie and their governments. They've been wanting to stamp on it pretty much since napster, but they've been especially blatant about it since tiktok pretty much single handedly destroyed the Israeli propaganda paradigm regarding Gaza.

>>2411469
Why? I’m not trying to sound facetious here, but I’ve got a job that treats me well enough (just got a raise, management basically said I’m keeping the store running), friends I can spend time with, a dog that absolutely loves me, and family. Felix is just some annoying guy on the internet. Driving up north to, what, beat some sense into him? It just seems pointless.

>>2411470
Huh, that’s kind of interesting. Neat!

>>2411496
You can order online from International Publishers if you want hard copies of books, Lear. That’s where I got both volumes of Capital from. If you’re looking for something you can walk into though? Ehh, best bet would be used bookstores I’d guess.

>>2411495
>2:02
Nolan should've thrown some ducks in there.

>>2411497
Yeah I didn't watch that one but it looked like it was more fun.

>>2411505
It’s a really solid watch, and it’s the only one I’ve seen that has the backbone to touch on the class politics of the premise as much as a corporate IP movie could be expected to get away with

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>>2411495
It was more literally the ending of the Alabasta arc of One Piece including the fakeout death.

>>2411501
I tried to get my family into it, but they found it boring for all the talking stuff that I found interesting. I really liked how it handled the collective action of a big group of people, dealing with problems as they arise and trying to plan accordingly.

>>2411493
Yeah, Anno loves to smash-cut between extremes at a rapid pace. There’s definitely an abrasive and icy quality to his editing and framing that feels very, for lack of a better term, sort of on the same wavelength. He does this a lot in his anime work too

>>2411481
>>2411481
>But how does that make any sense, that there is like an endless supply of locust, and enough even to overwhelm the entire surface planet
The series has a wiki
https://gearsofwar.fandom.com/wiki/Locust_Horde

>>2411509
For all the talk of “realistic” takes on genre fiction, Shin is one of the few that actually sells it by refusing to offer an empowerment-fantasy hero character and instead focusing on logistics and collaboration. The protagonist of the movie is logistics

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mystery-third-person-seen-on-epstein-prison-video-on-final-night-alive/

While chatting about super hero stuff is at least far more pleasant than edgelord dickwaving, I regret to inform you that I have to interrupt with some breaking news

I am still mad I will never get another bulletstorm game

>>2411514
The hunt is on I suppose

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/addressing-threats-to-the-us/#:~:text=NOW%2C%20THEREFORE%2C%20I%2C%20DONALD,the%20United%20States%2C%20to%20the
>Brazil is a threat to North American democracy
Are they really trying to frame fucking Lula as some authoritarian dictator? We are couping basic bitch succdem governments now?

>>2411518
This isn’t the lowest they have gotten if you can believe that

>>2411518
Jacobo Arbenz was a milquetoast socdem

>>2411519
If Gaza has shown us anything it’s that there is no rock bottom to hit, this particular ruling class can always sink deeper into depravity

>>2411518
Jesus fucking christ

>>2411514
This is the dumbest metal gear plot ever

>>2411518
my dude the US couped fucking Australia

>>2411523
They think that everyone that isn't a billionaire is just grist for the mill.

>>2411523
its not even the biggest death toll in recent time let alone the past century, how sheltered do you have to be to realize this now?

>>2411518
Jacobo Arbenz, Mohammed Mossadegh, Salvador Allende, and Gough Whitlam were all basically social democrats and still got couped by the CIA. The CIA won't tolerate even a pink tide.

>>2411529
None of the others had this level of documentation save for the Holocaust

>>2411529
Exactly. Belgians killed 10 million in the Congo for rubber. I pointed out that genocides of this scale are normal under capitalism and got called a zio apologist for it.

>>2411532
>this level of documentation
why does this matter

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>>2411532
the lack of documentation was never the problem. with all these genocides people know it's happening and still do nothing because they're afraid of getting got.

>>2411503
Thanks Comrade CPUSA anon, I have checked the websites of a bunch of small Independent Bookstores throughout the LA area (many of them show what books are in stock at the store and which you have to order online) and even gone on the Barnes and Nobles website to see if any are available at their SoCal locations, but it unfortunately seems that everywhere any Communist books have to be ordered online, which not to sound like a “Tinfoil Hat” schizo, but it is a tad bit suspicious that you can’t buy any of them with cash in a brick and mortar store but have to do it online so they can put you on a list (to be fair, everyone on this website is probably on a list anyway, so I guess it really dose not matter), so I will try to go to these places in person and hope that the websites are wrong and they have some of them on the shelves, and if I can’t find any of them, I will probably just buy them online, as that is probably better then going to the one place I know carries them in South LA which looks really sketchy (and may not even be open anymore), 😂🤣 ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2411526
no they didn't lol, the australian bourgeoisie performed a self-coup

>>2411350
Hexbear is full of people of commies who accuse each other of being libs just like this place. only difference is it's more "soy" and "LGBTQIA+" over there and it's more "manly" and "heated gamer moment" here

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>>2411538
the CIA couped gough whitlam in 1975 with the help of the queen.
>they just did that to themselves
this is like saying "The chilean bourgeoisie self couped" because the chilean military under pinochet sided with the CIA to coup allende. yes there is always collaborators in the target govt. when a coup happens.

>>2411538
JFK's head just does that sometimes

>>2411541
i am australian, and i can tell you the CIA did not need to coup him, since the australian bourgeoisie and ruling class were more than willing to do it themselves

>>2411297
>but if that's the case the mods are complicit for not cracking down on the shitposting so we should leave anyways

Yeah. The "idea" was that "people will come here to say things they can't say anywhere else" but it turns out that the sort of poster that describes is by and large the most belligerent and retarded piece of shit that's just looking for a place to be an abrasive asshole, and that this doesn't really translate into a long lasting, durable community.

>>2411529
much harder to get away with genocide in the age of the smartphone

>>2411544
> since the australian bourgeoisie and ruling class were more than willing to do it themselves
I repeat:
<this is like saying "The chilean bourgeoisie self couped" because the chilean military under pinochet sided with the CIA to coup allende. yes there is always collaborators in the target govt. when a coup happens.

>>2411547
>much harder to get away with genocide in the age of the smartphone
bullshit. this is liberal "if we raise enough awareness, it will stop" bullshit. everyone knew what leopold II was doing in the congo and what hitler was doing in the camps. nobody stopped it until it was too late. it's not a matter of awareness or having enough evidence on film. it won't stop until we pick up guns and kill israelis until they stop killing palestinians.

>>2411547
yet hardly are anyone doing anything about other extremely well documented genocides like the one in sudan, ethiopia, and myanmar
>>2411548
you can keep repeating the line but the chilean bourgeoisie and military would likely have couped the government even without foreign intervention from the CIA and ASIO

>>2411411
out of curiosity.
do they have any organizational theory interest? at least to barely protect their union?
>>2411415
it's a shame that's a trend and not the exception.

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>>2411538
>no they didn't lol
>>2411544
>the CIA did not need to coup him

how did we get from denying the coup itself to denying its necessity?

>>2411555
brain damaged, the coup was executed principally by the australian bourgeoisie and political class, even if the CIA had anything to do with it (i doubt they did but let's suppose it) it would have been about as true as saying "nazis couped the iraqi government in 1943"

>>2411553
look I'm american and I'm sitting here being like "my government is responsible for helping reactionaries overthrow [relatively speaking] left leaning governments" and you're coming in here with the weird apologetics of

>the coup didn't happen

followed by
>actually it did happen but the CIA's help wasn't needed

the point isn't whether the CIA was needed or not, nor whether the CIA took the lead or simply assisted a predestined coup. the point is to say "this is what my country did and it's a damn shame"

>>2411438
well, for leaders, isn't, because on their shoulders rests a huge responsibility. for the commoner? nah. just read some theory, and participate as much as you can in the revolutionary meetings so the movement can't be co-opted.

>>2411559
no i'm not? i'm saying it was a coup that factually occurred, but it wasn't perpertrated by the CIA, there were plenty of real CIA coups you can talk about but don't try to further your guilt with something that the CIA literally had nothing to do with

>>2411551
smartphones and instant communication break down the barriers for regular people to see and experience the reality of war. having a portable recording device in everyone's pocket changed everything about the reality of war and its unmaterialistic to believe otherwise

>>2411558
>even if the CIA had anything to do with it (i doubt they did but let's suppose it)
page 245

>>2411297
>>2411545
Third Worldists really do seem to be like that Nazi Bar story where even if you let one in on the basis of “free speech” pretty soon you just become a Nazi bar because they’ll be so abrasive they’ll chase everyone else off.

I know a lot of people got annoyed at me on constantly talking about how they ruin shit, but this is my point: they’ll chase even people without a stake in the argument off. I’ve seen them join orgs and push older members out, then try to stalk them if they joined other groups.

Third worldists are just natural wreckers. If you tolerate them they just stir shit and drive people off.

>>2411561
are you really suggesting the CIA had nothing to do with Gough Whitlam who literally wanted to shut down a CIA base in Australia that still exists to this day? The CIA worked with the queen England and the Australian governor general as liasons to help coordinate the coup. They had a vested interest in not losing that base.

The Acolyte
A profile of one DOGEr tells us much about a broader movement

https://donmoynihan.substack.com/p/doges-willing-executioners?

>And then Farritor joined DOGE:


<One person on the call says he didn’t think Farritor was that excited about cutting government waste, just working with Musk. He asked if Farritor would get to meet Musk and recalls Farritor saying: That’s the dream.


>That attitude was common. DOGE appeared to have been a mix of people already in Musk’s orbit, or those hoping to get his attention. Sahil Lavignia recalled a meeting where Musk met with DOGErs offering general criticism of government but not engaging on any sort of practical detail. “It’s almost like this is one of the things you get for working at DOGE. You get to hang out with Elon once in a while.” Farritor achieved his goal, becoming a trusted DOGE aide who joined Musk on Fox News.


It's really cool how the world is being destroyed by the biggest losers in it.

Sorry to derail the thread by mentioning Australia but at least we're talking US politics now instead of movies.

>>2411569
Half of the world's STEM guys are either left wingers who usually work on their craft in peace, or people like this who think they're God's gift to the world.

>>2411568
that was a political game more than anything, you yanks try to guilt yourselves over this and it's genuinely stupid, guilt yourself over something that your country really did do, rather than something our bourgeoisie did to itself

>>2411347
>I'm not a racist, some of my best friends have been Irish.
Besides the pure-blood Irish ones. I had this friend named I shouldn't say. A name you might have heard another rap named as his first name which google says is "Scottish-Gaelic" and his last name was 'Ryan' which google says is Irish. Well I guess he was part Irish but I think by American standards, his shade and everything people would just call him Black, in a midtone, not particularly light skin. He actually did a song with Hodgey Beats from Odd Future back in Highschool if you know who that is. I member he told me wanted to start going by the artist name: "Rory" which is an Irish name. Then shortly after, another Black artist Indie artist became kinda big with the name "Raury!" Crazy.

>>2411567
I don't think it's "third worldists" so much as bitter assholes that can only respond to anyone doing anything with acidic vitriol and that melt down at the slightest suggestion that maybe this place should be run like an actual forum and that if one can't maintain the minimum level of self control to facilitate that then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to participate.

>>2411574
The CIA literally gave money to John Kerr to help him coup Whitlam. How is that not a CIA-backed coup? It's not about guilt It's literally what the CIA did:

>Funds were also shelled out to undermine the liberal government of Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, who had pulled Australian troops out of Vietnam and condemned the bombing of Hanoi. These actions were orchestrated by Theodore Shackley, the CIA's deputy director of operations. After Whitlam was removed from office by John Kerr, Australia's governor-general, in 1975, the black ops money flowed to Italy and the IOR, for support of the Christian Democrats


Source attached

>>2411544
>i am australian, and i can tell you the CIA did not need to coup him, since the australian bourgeoisie and ruling class were more than willing to do it themselves
>laughs in kkkopmala laugh
>you think that ruling class and Australian bourg just fell out of a coconut tree?

Anyway:
>Victor Marchetti ex-CIA officer, once told to journalist John Pilger that Whitlam’s threat to cancel the Pine Gap lease (CIA operation base, intelligence facilities) caused “a kind of Chile [coup] [to] be set in motion.
>Kerr was best buddies with the CIA/MI6, called "our man" by a CIA whistleblower, William Colby and Maurice Oldfield both met to discuss "the Whitlam problem".
c'mon, anon.

>>2411572
It's a shame that tsunami didn't wipe out silicon valley and everyone in it.

>>2411578
bro is probably drunk tonight and doubling down rather than just admitting he's wrong after we keep providing academic sources lol

here's another

>>2411411
Show them some weird freak shit like Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles" or Rick Veitch's "The One." It's not really revolutionary but it's kind of fun anyhow.

>>2411575
> He actually did a song with Hodgey Beats from Odd Future back in Highschool if you know who that is.
Eh I don't know why I'm being sly. Might as well give my man a shoutout. I didn't say anything bad about him.

Contrasting Swagg- Hodgy Beats ft. Cameron-Ryan

>>2411581
kek, it's morning in Australia, he must be delaying all the work browsing drunk in here.

>>2411576
See, to me, I think it’s difficult because TWists do kind of the same thing as neonazis doing the “just asking questions” routine. Like they’ll say things pretty much designed to aggravate people but then act like it’s just them soberly theorizing or what have you. Like, being abrasive is pretty much part of their praxis.

>>2411577
>The CIA literally gave money to John Kerr to help him coup Whitlam
The CIA funds the Jonkler?

>>2411569
>How do people get to this point? At college, the home-schooled libertarian sometimes did not work well with others, especially female colleagues.

Really not surprised.

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>>2411569
>the world is being destroyed
nah, just america

>>2411582
So I'd actually be interested if anyone has any capeshit/"alternative" recommendations. IDK maybe there might be something actually commie in Image comics somewhere?

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>>2411601
i mean it's cliche to say it at this point, but watchmen (1985) deconstructs the genre (and is way deeper than the film adaptation)

>>2411601
What's that comic everyone always posts with the guy in sunglasses who wants to make Genghis Khan a Russian Orthodox saint?

>>2411604
It's a comic called "Horde" by some Ukrainian guy I think.

>>2411411
What union is it? SEIU?

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>>2411411
>I joined a union and these people have absolutely zero revolutionary potential. They are obsessed with TV and Comic books and know nothing about politics at all. All they want to talk about is what capeshit they are going to consume next. None of them have ever read Marx, Lenin or Engels.
I love the Iron Felix actually interacting with reality instead of pure LARP posting arc.

>The idea that this is how you build revolutionary power is absolutely laughable. All the union does for these people is make them slightly better paid than average hotel staff.

Figure it out. Figure out how to make your own little cult group and avoid getting busted by the feds.

>>2411585
i'm not drunk you're just an idiot

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>>2411604
Igor Baranko. that's his name. couldn't find the screenshot till I found his name

>>2411411
youre a retard and most probably baiting but i gotta ask anyway, did you join a trade union or bullshit like tenant or student unions lol

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>>2411605
>It's a comic called "Horde" by some Ukrainian guy I think.
Is this what Haz based his ideology off of?

https://www.amazon.com/Horde-Baranko/dp/1401203604
> In the year 1206, Genghis Khan and his Golden Horde dominated an immense territory from the Pacific Ocean to the Caspian Sea with only 150,000 men. In the year 2040, the newest Russian dictator has a unique vision: to invoke the spirit of Genghis Khan and his Golden Horde to create an empire reaching from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic. To do this, his secret service must find the corpse of the latest reincarnation of Genghis Khan. Their path will cross with the last Chechen, the survivor of a nuclear holocaust on a mystical quest. He has nothing to lose and fears nothing, especially not the Russian army and secret service.

>>2411611
we provided you sources that the CIA provided assistance in getting rid of whitlam

>>2411411
But Felix, you keep telling us that they have a thorough and accurate understanding of the mechanics of global imperialism, a topic that even Marxist economists hotly debate over. Could it be that they actually don't understand it at all and are mostly just concerned with stuff happening in their own lives?

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>>2411603
Oh right. Kind of a tangent but that reminded me of Nemesis the Warlock. I'll be honest that I think "Watchmen" is overrated. It's sad because I loathe Grant Morrison's politics but Alan Moore is just more boring. IDK I'm kind of an edgelord I guess.

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>>2411615
>Is this what Haz based his ideology off of?
I mean azovite ukrainians and other western right wingers accuse Russians of being evil asiatic commie orcs and I think a lot of western communists look at that rhetoric and go "yes. I am that. that is what I am."

>>2411366
>what we’re getting from internationalism?
More evidence that ameriKKKans are selfish freaks that must be shot

>>2411616
yes, 1 source by one guy, however let's consult an actual work that has passed academic review (The Dismissal by Troy Bramston and Paul Kelly) and was published in the university of melbourne some 10 years ago:"In the years following the dismissal of the Whitlam government, a conspiracy industry emerged that tried to conflate a political crisis with a security crisis. It propagated the notion that Sir John Kerr acted on instructions from, or to satisfy, the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the British security service (MI5) or its foreign section (MI6), or even Australia’s own Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO). While devoid of evidence and fanciful, the notion of an intelligence or security conspiracy behind the dismissal has nevertheless permeated subsequent reporting and writing about these events.

As this book shows, the entire story of the dismissal and its motivations is explained by political and constitutional events tied to the personalities and characters of the main players: John Kerr, Gough Whitlam and Malcolm Fraser. This story is fantastic enough in terms of intrigue and deception. There is no need to create a conspiracy about intelligence and security events.

The dismissal, however, occurred at the same time as a crisis erupted in the Australian–US intelligence relationship. It sprang from concern in the United States that the Whitlam government would not renew the agreement covering the Pine Gap intelligence facility near Alice Springs. Kerr was sometimes assumed to have intelligence involvement because of his role during the war as deputy director of the Directorate of Research and Civil Affairs at Land Headquarters in Melbourne. And the CIA was known to have intervened in the domestic affairs of several countries in the 1970s, most notably Chile.

The attempt to join these elements into a theory to satisfy Kerr’s dismissal of the government on 11 November 1975 has spawned a cottage industry sustained by a range of figures such as documentary filmmaker and UK-based Australian journalist John Pilger and legendary investigative journalist Brian Toohey, among others. This bizarre take on the dismissal has also been immortalised in fiction, most recently by Peter Carey in his novel Amnesia.

In his memoirs, Kerr repudiated one of the pivotal claims of the conspiracy theorists – that he had been associated with the intelligence community. He said of the World War Two organisation the Directorate that ‘it never did intelligence work, nor did I’. Referring to the wider claims, Kerr said:

An absurd story was put about that I became some kind of intelligence operative in the war years and maintained some intelligence affiliations thereafter. Alleged later connections with the CIA have been the subject of rumour and gossip. This is and always has been false in relation to the CIA and to all US and other intelligence activity. I have had no direct or indirect connections at any time, during or after the war, with any intelligence organisations including our own. Only the more gullible subscribers to the conspiracy theory of history could believe or want to believe such nonsense.1

The central problem with the conspiracy theory has been the absence of any link between the 1975 security/intelligence crisis and the 1975 political/constitutional crisis. They exist as parallel yet unrelated events. Whenever a story emerges about the security/intelligence crisis, the question is invariably posed: was it related to the dismissal? Yet there has never been any evidence produced that Kerr’s motive in dismissing Whitlam was about security issues concerning the CIA or any other agency."

>>2411366
>>2411622
>internationalism in the liberal sense from both "sides"
cool.

internationalism in the communists sense isnt a matter of "opinion", its a matter of practical necessity, since we have evidence qmd historical hindsight unlike marx, engels and lenin who emphasised internationalism, on how nationalism serves as a gravedigger of revolution

>>2411601
There’s a Doctor Strange comic called “The Oath” I think where he literally discovers the Panacea and gets hunted by an insurance agency. Towards the end the guy tries to talk about overpopulation as a reason to not mass produce it, and he basically calls the idea a retarded lie they just tell people to keep making profit.

>>2411625
So amerikkkans are incapable of internationalism? You are the liberal

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>>2411603
People have been raving about the new superman movie but Marvel Man/ Miracle Man really cuts it off at the knees.

>>2411628
hey there idiot

>>2411613
Unfortunately it kind of sucks.

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>>2411623
2 sources from william blum, and one source from another book written by Paul L Williams. I don't know why you're so invested in denying the fact that the CIA funneled money to Kerry to get rid of Whitlam because Whitlam wanted to get rid of the CIA base in Australia. The motivation is right there looking you in the face? What's your obsession with absolving the yanks of this one? Yeah there's other coups we did that were way bloodier but this one is interesting because it's against another anglophone "white" country for once.

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>>2411601
>So I'd actually be interested if anyone has any capeshit/"alternative" recommendations.
Dragon Ball Z. The story is about how an interplanetary/species group of humanoids work to overcome an interplanetary corporation that does business by exterminating lifeforms from inhabitable planets, and selling them to other alien species.


>>2411611
well, my man, sober up that ego, and admit there's a handful of serious circunstancial evidence that should be more than enough to admit there was a coup promoted by the CIA/MI6. Remember that Australia head of state is the same king of the UK, so whatever thing Whitlam try to stir up, closing down those CIA headquarters, prompted everyone to mobilize against him.

>>2411632
>Kerry
*Kerr

>>2411632
because the yanks didn't do it, and gough whitlam vehemently denied that there was any CIA interference, unless you assume somehow everyone was lying, and not that the cottage industry of an american coup was far more alluring than the more benign explanation of "there was 2 crises that while similar, were different, and that they were triggered principally by local elements unrelated to intelligence agency interests"

>>2411623
So the proof against it is that one of the primary players denied having intelligence connections? I don't know enough about this incident to say either way but that doesn't sound very convincing.

>>2411637
>because the yanks didn't do it, and gough whitlam vehemently denied that there was any CIA interference
totally not under duress

>>2411635
i'm calling you an idiot precisely because there is no strong evidence for it, something historians have disagreed with, something australian communists and socialists disagree with
>>2411638
whitlam was literally the guy deposed, he had perfect reason to assert a CIA connection, yet he precisely didn't, neither did the guy who deposed him, neither did most people
>>2411639
he wasn't under duress, he was in his 80s when he said this shit, you have to assume he's lying when there's no reason to think so

>>2411623
all the self-investigative procedures from Australia excluded all of the external intelligence agencies archives. And Kerr saying "I am not CIA, I swear guys" isn't exactly a case.

>>2411640
>he wasn't under duress, he was in his 80s when he said this shit, you have to assume he's lying when there's no reason to think so
Or maybe he just didn't know

>>2411642
it wouldn't be on its own, it would have been if there was any good evidence for that conclusion, literally just focus on shit you yanks actually did and not on shit you didn't do for fuck's sake

>>2411615
>>2411613
I read that one a while back, it was interesting

>>2411643
he of all people would have known, he would have had perfect reason to believe it, yet at literally no point did he ever even entertain or mention the idea and instead worked to crush it, yet again why would he do this if there was any reason at all to believe it?

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arguing with an australian guy who doesn't want to believe the CIA couped gough whitlam was not on my /usapol/ Thursday night bingo card.

>>2411649
you are the one who wants to believe it, i frankly wouldn't really care, the yanks failed to seize that opportunity even if they did

>>2411652
Yeah if the yanks hadn't bungled things they'd have an iron grip on oz by now.

>>2411653
they did have an iron grip before, in fact the idea of them couping our government has probably worsened their grip far harder, even if it is untrue or at the very least unproven

>>2411622
>”Are we getting anything from this arrangement?”
<“HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU! ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN, HAVE YOU NO SHAME?! YOU DO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT COMMUNISM IS!”
Ideological purity for its own sake might work in a country that already adheres to the ideology in question, but when it’s a country that’s unfamiliar with it en masse and it’s merely one alternative among many, saying “do this cause I tell you to” isnt compelling.

If a Catholic goes to India and demands they observe Lent because “that’s just what Catholics do” he’d be chased off. Communism is not the default in the U.S. and appealing to dogma when there’s no reason to even adhere to it isn’t an argument.

>>2411628
in what practical manner can americans do internationalism here and now?

>>2411657

>>2411659
that guy's a (very stupid) troll so it's like talking to a brick wall, genuinely just respond with a basic refutation of his point, call him a braindead idiot, and he'll go onto a different thread to harass

STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO FELIX AND THE THIRD WOLRDIST TROLLS JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE

>>2411659
The imperialists cannot because it is against their nature

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>>2411665
So how are you bringing the revolution forward this week my good anon?

>>2411662
Ad hominem. You are imperialist

>>2411671
you are a worthless troll who is a spitting image of this site's problems, i wish only that you stop posting, and potentially even get a job

>>2411295
this is how they came up with banshees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee

>>2411667
its funny tho…

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>>2411655
I see we've found the one ASIO agent they dedicate to leftypol. Cunt gets paid $25 dollarydoos an hour for this shit

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>>2411675
Yes, let's let trolls derail the thread with their pointless flamewars - again. If we don't let them make this thread useless, they'll win the eDebate by default!

>>2411677
If I don't win the e-debate and pwn the anonymous, COINTELPRO will win and Gommunizhme will be lost!

anyone else tired of the capitulation and apathy of their left-leaning peers? like ever since trump won, nobody wants to even talk about politics or know what's going on anymore and they just want to bury their heads in the sand.

personally i find it kind of exciting and hilarious that a billionaire criminal pederast conned his way into the White House and is destroying everything. my entire life i have been indoctrinated to believe that meritocracy is a great idea and that the world is 99% losers and 1% winners and that we must allow the smart successful winners rule over all the helpless losers, and now i get to watch the country i live in get ransacked and looted and destroyed by the billionaire winners that our great meritocracy has produced.

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>>2411678
tell 'em

>>2411679
i couldnt care less about "left-leaning" people

>>2411681
>i couldnt care less about "left-leaning" people
I struggle to understand the mentality of people who post that quote and say things like this. How exactly is socialism meant to become a powerful movement if you seemingly have no interest in getting people to support it?

>>2411383
Holy based

>>2411689
uhhhhh kill everybody that isn't us, duh

>>2411659
Well, given I’ve talked about the failures of internationalism here I suppose I should try to talk about what I think “good” internationalism would look like. To be frank, I think Mexico is the singularly most important country to concern ourselves with because we share a border with them and because migration is one of the important labor issues of our day. Cuba is a close follow up just because the actions the government has taken against it are abhorrent.

I think a good place to start would be to maybe try and build a forum between American and Mexican workers specifically on the basis of trade. It’s important to fight this depiction of them as some “great other”. And from there, try to steer the conversation towards things like trade, the legacy of NAFTA, etc.

The fact is neoliberalism hollowed out jobs here, and ate up industries there. That’s a place we can build solidarity off of. We need to start with the economic troubles we face as two peoples and build a basis of diplomacy from there. After that…

Honestly I have no fucking clue. For something as supposedly useful as internationalism, in practical terms I genuinely can’t think of anything both possible and useful in regards to it. Truth be told this thought exercise is just because people feel it has to be included in some way.

>>2411689
The idea is that Socialism isn't achieved through convincing people through debate but through direct action and actively seeking out conflict with the oppressors. The proletariat will overthrow the bourgeois when the material conditions are ideal for it. Not when Hasan convinces enough Timmies to vote Blue No Matter Who or when your local college Communist book club gains a certain amount of members.

Personally I have no idea whether I agree with this or not, but I also haven't seen any value in allying with the American Left on a personal level. It's mostly just random special interest groups trying to hijack whatever movement you're doing to serve their particular needs at the expense of everyone else, and often times attempts at real activism get drowned out by infighting and the need to accommodate every random ass concern of privileged NIMBY college kids even if it has nothing to do with your original goal. Generally speaking the entire idea of "consensus based activism" is a complete misdirection to push people towards the center through upsetting the least people possible. If your activism doesn't upset the privileged and middle class then you're not doing anything productive imo.

>>2411679
That's because those dumbasses treat politics as a spiritual movement under some disguise of "muh empathy" instead of using it to find solutions to improve one's circumstances under heavy conditions or at least an understanding that helps them navigate through society.

Once shit actually hits the fan, they have no other solutions other than soyjaking about the current state of affairs i.e "LOOK AT WHAT THIS FUCKING CHUD SAID ON TWITTER *nags finger and shakes head*"

>>2411694
>Personally I have no idea whether I agree with this or not, but I also haven't seen any value in allying with the American Left on a personal level.
The question isn't about allying more than it is why spend all your time trying to attack leftist groups for??? Hypothetically stealing followers that would otherwise follow you? It seems like the only part of leftist history the edgy role-players like is the in-fighting and "circular firing squad."

More specific to this thread, what is the point in just coming ITT to antagonize anyone who was born or lives in America? Just enough you fucking weirdos. This isn't a place to try and convince people you're le cool epic cutthroat revolutionary because you can't live-action RP.

>Vidrel

Happened locally a few years ago.

Congressional candidate says she was assaulted by anti-voting protesters

>>2411676
i wish they'd pay me

>>2411697
>>2411676
damn, this thread by bloody oath has a lot of blokes.

>>2411693
Wdym its very easy to build bonds between Mexico and America. There are lots of Mexicans in the US and lots of gringos in Mexico. Mexican factories have been vital for the supply chain for most American industries by this point.
The bigger question is why American and Mexican relationship is this bad in the first place. If you look at like Indian immigration the only people they anger are mostly CS graduates who have to compete with them (who we have to deal with all the time because CS graduates flooded imageboard. Outside of that most ppl in the US don't care that much about jeet immigration. Meanwhile with Mexicans everyone in the US get all hot and bothered about it, even people from the Midwest and shit who have never seen a brown person in their whole lives

>>2411695
>to find solutions to improve one's circumstances under heavy conditions or at least an understanding that helps them navigate through society.
Well why do you think they're so "empathetic?" It's because they're all thriving under the system.

>Once shit actually hits the fan,

They're still going to be doing alright, certainly more than the people who weren't doing alright even when times were better.

I think that's another supposedly Marxist fantasy propagated alot on here. All the petit-booj, and kulaks, and labor aristocrats, will be immiserated down to the level of the barest prole, THEN the revolution will happen. Lol why is it dependent on them anyways?

>>2411689
you are so burgerbrained you think communism is like an electoral debate where you need to get literally everyone to vote for you no matter what and not about going to where the proletarian struggle already exists and try to connect those separate struggles together (and i bet youre retarded and sheltered enough to say it doesnt exist or ask me where it does exist, lol)

>>2411703
>(and i bet youre retarded and sheltered enough to say it doesnt exist or ask me where it does exist, lol)
NTA but where?

>>2411705
im not american but try going to labor unions, strike committees, etc…

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>>2411699
>damn, this thread by bloody oath has a lot of blokes.
I apologize to the Irish, it was another goddamn Australian shitposter this whole time. What's happening down under? Don't you guys have you own thread to shit up?

>>2411706
>im not american but try going to labor unions, strike committees, etc…
Our man Felix The Cat just went to one and was met with disappointment.

>>2411411
>I joined a union and these people have absolutely zero revolutionary potential. They are obsessed with TV and Comic books and know nothing about politics at all. All they want to talk about is what capeshit they are going to consume next. None of them have ever read Marx, Lenin or Engels.

>The idea that this is how you build revolutionary power is absolutely laughable. All the union does for these people is make them slightly better paid than average hotel staff.

We gotta figure out how to coordinate strikes internationally, at all the global points of the supply chains that serve as the gum, pencils, and duct tape holding this scam economy together. We gotta be willing to take orders and give money to our people in China, Mexico, Canada, Japan, any other major trading partners and vice versa.

>>2411707
genuinely no that "irish" guy is a freak, i'm just trying to prevent false information from being posted to promote a guilt narrative

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Who on leftypol is going to be the next Maupin, Haz, Hinkle, Kodzo?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Communist_Party_(2024)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hammer_Party

Unfortunately it seems wikipedia doesn't consider Maupin wiki worthy.


Dare I say may any really reach, Bob Avakian, or the unthinkable, Chairman Gonzalo level?

>>2411716
This very board will produce post-dissolution America's Pol Pot.

>>2411716
The movement is not ready to take on the state with arms at this point, you cannot even call me a revisionist because Jose Sison said the same thing.

>>2411708
Welp, Iron Felix said the revolution is doomed. Pack it up everybody.

>>2411713
you can't even have national strikes in america. sympathy strikes and general strikes are illegal.

>>2411720
So change the law.

>>2411719
the CIA's ultimate weapon: capeshit

>>2411717
I don’t imagine any fed with weapons training that would browse this board would be convinced by the arguments or pdfs so probably not. A guy like Haz is not going to be the wastelands Timurlame.

>>2411720
So is being pro palestinian in public people still do it

>>2411411
>None of them have ever read Marx, Lenin or Engels.
Lmao. The requirement of reading them only applies to non-proletarians, they NEED to study the class struggle scientifically if they want to be considered communists. Proletarians acquire that same consciousness by actually participating in it.

Either way, the class struggle is the basis for communism and communist consciousness. It is what reproduces communism as a need.

>>2411707
I am not Aussie, I am just larrikin with the most true blue things to say.
but there is at least three, now.

So how many here are involved with some IRL shit?

>CPUSAnon

is a member of his local titular chapter and goes to meetings sometimes.
>Gay Nazi
Is involved with some local leftist protesting or something sometimes.
>Houdini
Goes to left or anarchist music or political events or something. Recently gave a speech at one.
>Some random guy responding in that thread
said he gave speeches at Black churches for MLK day or something.

Me personally I've never gotten involved with anything. Seems like I'm going to find whatever brand of liberals, or the fanatical third worldist cultists. I find it much easier to tolerate all of you in this anonymous text format. Maybe I'd try getting involved but I'm like, what group? Who is actually doing something? If it's just a social club I already have friends, and I can just talk about leftist politics that I can't discuss with my friends and family, here.

>>2411720
Americans will quote the funding fathers as if it were the bible, but when the motherfucker racist thomas jefferson is right to say that when the law becomes tyranny, rebellion is a duty, no one quotes him not even as larping patriotism.

>>2411736
About the vid I posted. I mean, it's good to accommodate handicapped people or whatever, but c'mon.. c'mon. I don't want to be a chud.

>>2411740
i see a lot of radlibs on reddit posting jefferson "blood of the patriots" shit and making references to the french revolution in response to trump news

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>>2411736
I'm the guy from the other thread that talks about muh community defense center and the like, I found some local former DSA types who are interested in helping out, but beyond that I haven't had much progress in Capricorn. Are some of these people spooked with idpol? Sure, but they're a helluvah lot more pleasant to be around than the average person here I tell ya what

>>2411745
>>2411740
If we're getting any kind of uprising going we'll need all the bloodthirsty wine moms we can get so I see no reason not to encourage this

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>>2411740
>when the law becomes tyranny, rebellion is a duty,
Lmao. I've literally had that conversation with a libtard and they basically just melt down and curse you out. I hate how sucking these 300yr dead fascist fucks dicks has become a religion.

>>2411754
Unironically yes. Bitches here really be wasting time splitting hairs going "communism isn't something that happens but something that occurs" and fighting over which group of leftists are the most degenerate and who gets to be called a leftist and who doesn't meanwhile KaMomala79 on Bluesky is picking out the perfect ritual blade to carve the sigil of the blood god Balzaamoth into the skull of Donald Trump before disemboweling him and using his intestinal lining for a summoning circle. We need to fucking up our game or we're going to get millions of deaths all for Her Turn

>>2411746
>I'm the guy from the other thread that talks about muh community defense center and the like,
I haven't seen that I think but I have seen you avataring with the racoon.
> I found some local former DSA types who are interested in helping out, but beyond that I haven't had much progress in Capricorn
I don't know where that is. Is that a city?
> Are some of these people spooked with idpol? Sure, but they're a helluvah lot more pleasant to be around than the average person here I tell ya what
Yeah I bet. I don't want to write a hole biography of all of my friends and family, but I would describe pretty much all of the ones who aren't in my parents as apolitical. Even my parents age group, just kind of basic Democrats mostly, maybe some of them religious and Republicans. In my age group, I'd have to say completely apolitical. I met some interesting friends at my work and they were mostly apolitical. One guy was from the former USSR and he had a kind of Zigger point of view you could say and he was pretty up on geopolitics. My other younger zoomer coworker didn't care at all. I was playing the DNC national convention, and he reacted to some Democrat saying, the Republicans are going to take your social security, and his response was "yeah right, like there is going to be social security when I retire." I one time asked what he thought about the future of this country and he said: "The future of this country? I'm just worried about my future."

Me and these people always have great relationships and it's not like I have to feel uncomfortable about their problematic views, they just don't care about politics or any of that.

I have all of absolutely zero leftist orgs down here in the south. Good luck everybody.

>>2411736
was that someone else who did this or me cause ive done this lol

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>>2411760
Make your leftist org. What about Redneck revolt? What about Dixie-Bolshevism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck_Revolt

>>2411699
>by bloody oath
What the fuck, anon.

>>2411757
i've thought for a while that there will be a revolution in america but it will look more like the mexican revolution and aftermath (cristero war) than it will resemble a communist revolution

>>2411763
damn i was looking for that flag under "redneck" for like a year.
>redneck revolt
Hands up who hasn't seen the Australian documentary on then when they had a gun meetup with the Pit Vipers lolbert militia?

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>>2411766
Looks like they stopped posting on twitter.

>>2411367
The Hibernian cries out as he makes fun of his nationality.

>>2411759
Oh sorry, no "Capricorn" is just what I'm codenaming this shit since that's easier to say than "community defense center slash militia slash front organization". Should have mentioned. Nah I'm actually near DC so while there's a lot of leftists organizing is a little precarious because of everything.

>"The future of this country? I'm just worried about my future."


Yeah that's the key thing there, what a lot of people here miss. You dont need to read Marx or Lenin or Kropotkin to realize that the shit we have is fucking wrong, a lot of the young people just genuinely dont see a way out of it and figure the best they can hope for is getting a liberal elected who can pass a few reforms or maybe a safe space for whatever minority group they're a part of. Once it dawns on them that a revolution is the only way they're going to reliably secure any of that then they're more willing to jump on board. People will be motivated to fight for a better future for any number of reasons, from the altruistic to the self serving to excitement to just simple material interest in some way. I dont really know where I'm going with this but I guess the point is that you go into a revolution with the revolutionaries you have, not necessarily the revolutionaries you want.

>>2411767
>twitter
omg just please use better websites. I know your schools don't teach you about basic media analysis but I know you're old enough to know better.
https://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/kessler-redneck-revolt-agree-to-end-paramilitary-activity-in-city/article_7c191edc-85eb-11e8-ae77-cbe9f0302dc4.html

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>>2411736
the dsa meetings are insanely cringe. last time another anon uploaded a bunch, it made my stomach ache.
>what's your personal privilege
>my pronouns are
>don't talk to maga
>no one is clapping for me, it could be because I am not engaging but also is because everyones is (proceeds to paddling like a duckling with his hands)
>I could be hurt with my sensory overload, can we keep chatting to a minimum, it affects my ability to focus.

someone got angry that the time was not spent on debate, but voting after voting, and voting whether they should vote on something or not.

>>2411736
>So how many here are involved with some IRL shit?
I'm just visiting the thread and not a burger, so I don't count.

>>2411770
>Yeah that's the key thing there, what a lot of people here miss. You dont need to read Marx or Lenin or Kropotkin to realize that the shit we have is fucking wrong, a lot of the young people just genuinely dont see a way out of it and figure the best they can hope for is getting a liberal elected who can pass a few reforms or maybe a safe space for whatever minority group they're a part of.
My example is I'm saying he and many other people I know don't really give a flying fuck who is elected. I really don't know if any of them bother to vote, if they do they probably just check blue once every two or four years and that's it.
>Once it dawns on them that a revolution is the only way they're going to reliably secure any of that then they're more willing to jump on board. People will be motivated to fight for a better future for any number of reasons, from the altruistic to the self serving to excitement to just simple material interest in some way. I dont really know where I'm going with this but I guess the point is that you go into a revolution with the revolutionaries you have, not necessarily the revolutionaries you want.
I think you really only see two types join these kind of things. College kids, wealthy or at least comfortably wealthy liberals(who are college kids but maybe will stay into it for longer), or the Jesus style of taking whatever base lumpen you can find.

>The college kids

Are only temporarily idealistic and often change their opinion after they get out of their teenage or early 20s years.
>Wealthy libs
This is more maybe the DSA ilk we're talking about. Maybe not all of them are all 100% wealthy but they tend that direction and they're all very libbed up.
>The salt of the Earth.
These people tend to have lots of PTSD from their "lifestyle." Like real PTSD not like the over mental-healthcared boojy libs, but like I've been threatened very directly for my life with weapons, or assaulted, or you name it. Tend to be disturbed, tend to do bad things out of habit even if they show good intentions sometimes.

>>2411736
>and I can just talk about leftist politics that I can't discuss with my friends and family, here.
Here fucking sucks. The internet is largely full of people society rejected. Check out the orgs before you dismiss them.

>>2411675
>>2411672
You are the trolls. The imperialist posed the question, not me. What imperialist ameriKKKans can reasonably do. I ask why would the imperialist ameriKKKans do anything good? They do only bad. Even now as you justify your imperialism. You are imperialist ameriKKKan pig. Your squeals have no meaning.

>>2411784
get out

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>>2411781
>I dont really know where I'm going with this but I guess the point is that you go into a revolution with the revolutionaries you have, not necessarily the revolutionaries you want.
>>2411781
Oh and of course someone will surely say:
>That's why the proletariat is the only revolutionary class!
I think most of these proles, at least if we're talking blue collar, tend to be apolitical like I mentioned or right leaning because of social issues or whatever. Hell even monetary issues. Blue collar can give you a comfortable life depending where and what. Maybe the blue collars are also the labor aristocrats. Maybe it is actually the barista, who is the true revolutionary class.

>>2411772
>>I could be hurt with my sensory overload, can we keep chatting to a minimum, it affects my ability to focus.
ok but that's a legitimate concern if people are chatting while someone is talking.
>svenposting
have you even seen that scene

>>2411783
>Here fucking sucks. The internet is largely full of people society rejected. Check out the orgs before you dismiss them.
Perhaps, CPUSA, PSL, or DSA? Which one do you recommend?

>>2411785
I think we must answer the imperialist's question. What good can the imperialist ameriKKKans do?

>>2411786
All are drug dealers.

>>2411789
plenty, like any people in their position

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Should I go on one of these flotillas? Is there anything you have to do besides get beat by Israelis?

>>2411793
Ok you got to have some followers on twitter to get on apparently.

https://freedomflotilla.org/i-want-to-help/
>Be part of the ground crew. Space on board is limited, but anyone can join the FFC as a “volunteer on land”. Share our posts to raise urgent awareness, reach out to media to cover our nonviolent mission, fundraise to keep our vessels afloat, and pressure governments to protect our participants and vessels and hold Israel accountable.

>>2411788
>Which one do you recommend?
I live on a different continent.
I wanted an org that actually had worker power, I care about that more than specific ideology, so I asked unionists at nearby rallies which orgs they engaged with. But if you don't have the luxury of nearby protests, just find one of their events and talk to members, you'll learn pretty quickly which ones are in the center of that org branch and know their stuff. And definitely talk to members of other groups to get a clearer image before settling on one or dismissing others, because unfortunately one group near me just lied about a rival group's members, like accusing a senior member renowned for their refugee work of being a racist.

>>2411700
I think the anger can be explained by scarcity. Here’s the reality: neoliberalism lied to American workers by hand waving offshoring with “well there’ll be better jobs! We’ll all be computer programmers! We’ll be making $200k a year each and every one of us!

Well that ain’t fucking true. Some people just don’t have the minds for that “advanced” form of work, especially with America’s education system being what it is. Shit I did well in school, and when I got into college my family told me I was gonna study accounting cause that’s where the money was. Well, I flunked out, and I was told there’s so much demand for accounting that just to retake the course I failed, I’d need to retake every single accounting class I had just for the right to re-apply to my upper division course and be placed last on the queue.

Some people will be stuck in manual work that doesn’t require a degree. And if you’re from a working class family like I am, you can see that things are getting worse for people like you. We went from my grandfather rising up the retail ladder and being able to raise a family of 5 on his salary to landlords out here basically reducing me to a fucking serf if I live on my own.

Now despite our education system being awful, many of us can at least infer what supply and demand are. I remember learning in highschool that after the Black Death, there was kind of a form of wealth redistribution entirely because there were so few laborers to farm the fields that the remaining ones had to be paid previously exorbitant funds.

So if you start thinking “well we’ve got so many immigrants, why not stop letting them in?” You’ll be inundated with liberal arguments that only build resentment: “Um, Mexican food is so much better than boring white people food.” “My Mexican gardener works so much harder than you” or they just say you’re a racist and tell you to go fuck yourself. Meanwhile the problem isn’t solved and things are only getting worse. And it’s not like anyone really tries to dispute “immigrants compete for jobs. I’ve been told that if service workers complain about their jobs they should just be replaced with either robots, or immigrants who’ll work for even less. In much the same way that luddites saw the machinery of Victorian capitalism as their enemy, the foreign worker is reduced to such a machine and appears to threaten their livelihoods: Carlosbot-3000. But of course the problem isn’t the machines, the problem is capitalism, but most people will take the surface level view of “getting rid of immigrants” before they realize the hand of business behind it—doesn’t help that liberals basically tell them to their faces they don’t give a fuck about them, only the “machines”.

In essence, foreign workers are seen as more competition, but unlike the Indian ones, this is less a specific field and more the whole job market.

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>>2411792
>Is there an update on Chris Smalls?
https://freedomflotilla.org/2025/07/31/final-two-handala-volunteers-freed-from-israeli-occupation-prison/

<Final Two Handala Volunteers, Christian Smalls and Hatem Aouini, Freed from Israeli Occupation Prison


>This morning the final two Handala volunteers held in Givon Prison–Christian Smalls from the United States and Hatem Aouini from Tunisia–were freed via Jordan’s King Hussein/Allenby Bridge after five days of unlawful imprisonment in occupied Palestine. Both had been on hunger strike to protest mistreatment. Aouini was received by the Tunisian embassy at the border. Despite repeated requests for assistance, neither the U.S. Consulate nor U.S. Embassy officials met Christian at the border, even after being notified in advance of his arrival details.


>With their release, all 21 volunteers abducted from the Handala in international waters have now been released from Israeli captivity. But more than 10,300 Palestinian political prisoners remain caged in Israeli occupation prisons, at least 320 of them children, held in violation of international law and subjected to horrific forms of abuse and torture.

>>2411786
something something treatlerites golden billion actually no one is a prole, unlimited kill dudes or whatever

>>2411801
remember that "golden billion" is putinite phraseology

>>2411797
My dad was a ML fighter until he moved here and then he mostly worked a union job 20 years until retirement. They went on strikes sometimes but I don't think there was like any "revolutionary character" to his union from my impression.

The people at his work were more of a right wing bent maybe. Multiracial blue collar I don't know how to describe it. I guess my dad told me it was a real melting pot experience where people of all types were forced to work together and get along even if many of them were racist, or afraid of racist attacks and whatever. I remember my dad said he was talking about camping trips we took to his coworkers and some of the Black ones asked him like "aren't you afraid to take trips out to the middle of rural nowhere(where everyone will be White)?" He also told me about his one supervisor who was some ex army southerner guy, who he had kind of mixed relationship with because of his racism, but at the same time I guess has fond memories of to some extent, but he told me this guy told him about when he was growing up working on his farm or whatever in the south he used to fantasize about having a slave to do the work for him.

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kek, this law will be a joke.

>>2411799
I am happy that Chris finally got free. I am seriously happy.

>>2411807
Hopefully he hasn’t been compromised or tortured

>>2411798
The worst problem is the whole illegal immigration thing. I can't understand how liberals all can defend that people should be "undocumented" in this country. No one is illegal just means stop enforcing the laws?

>Newsom: "'Undox' make up 41% of the construction industry in California and Texas."


I know some people claim that 'undox' make the same wage as natives in various industries, and well above minimum wage, hard blue collar work like fruit picking or construction, but a lot of them also get rather fucked too. Like to do gig app work, they have to rent the account from a 'doxx' resident, and then pay them a cut of their earnings for the privilege.

>>2411802
>the KGB agent who killed more nazis than any man since Stalin is bad actually because he invaded a CIA puppet govt. in order to stop the continued eastward expansion of the 4th reich
ukraine lost, ziosister

>>2411808
he was sadly, at least in some small confirmed amount
>>2411792

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So who do y'all think will replace old Newsom

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/31/katie-porter-california-kamala-harris-governor-takeaways-00486382

‘A Democrat bloodbath’: With Kamala Harris out of CA governor's race, an intraparty battle begins

>>2411815
My problem with the immigration thing is that we have either liberals, who say "let them all in" even if it means all this abuse and lowering of standards for the working class, or we have conservatives, who dehumanize them and blame them for everything. There is no political party in the United States that says "we are committing brain drain against the global south, we are destabilizing the global south through our foreign policy and environmental policy, we are creating the largest refugee crisis in human history, and the people fleeing from the consequences of our foreign and environmental policy end up in places where they are dehumanized, exploited, imprisoned, and politically scapegoated by bourgeois parties.

Because that is the sensible way to discuss immigration. But instead the closest we get to that is "muh MS 13 hordes doing 1984 to us and preventing us from doing 1488" or "no one is illegal yass queen it's good that everyone is fleeing here because we're just so good and free and liberal!!"

>>2411816
russia is protected by its nuclear arsenal, ukraine joining nato is irrelevant to its national security, the war is a war and is imperialist

>>2411821
> and the people fleeing from the consequences of our foreign and environmental policy end up in places where they are dehumanized, exploited, imprisoned, and politically scapegoated by bourgeois parties.
I mean from personal experience, my family attained a much higher standard of living in America than is even possible in their home country. It's really like "your life is better under capitalism because you're not a feudal serf tier." Life is pretty shit in a lot of the world.

>"we are committing brain drain against the global south,

That's a very abstract idea that is not likely to move anyone. People like Elon and the H1B proponents will openly argue that's what we're doing and that's a good thing.

>we are destabilizing the global south through our foreign policy and environmental policy, we are creating the largest refugee crisis in human history,

Yeah I think those kind of ideas have picked up a little more traction but I don't know if anything is being done. I think both Biden and Trump claim they're helping in Central America to keep people from fleeing to America.

>>2411819
>the golden billionoid azovite apologist when confronted with the truth about his nation's foreign policy immediately retreats to his soyjak folder to fetch the most wretched and racist cavepainting he can find, so that he can wordlessly call his opponent a black subhuman third world mongoloid orc.

I say this and I like like this!

>>2411736 [vid]
>>2411772 [references to said vid]
I didn't realize a question of privilege is an actual term completely difference from how 'privilege' is used in identity politics nonsense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raise_a_question_of_privilege

I still think it's silly how delegates are disrupting the meeting with those, but that's also the result of a lack of discipline among other attendees.
I also think the duckling crap is silly, it's a cope for American clapping culture, my org just says 'please hold applause', because we're not so fragile that we need to be clapped or so selfish that we need to express basic feedback immediately.
And finally I think gendered pronouns in introduction are a cope, just encourage people to use neutral terms during the conference. English has 'em, so use 'em.
But really, reducing noise and chatting is valid and makes a convention more effective. Telling hecklers to shut up is valid and makes a convention more effective. Providing quiet rooms is valid and effective. Telling people to stop waving props is a result of them having those props in the first place, parliaments tend to ban these for a reason.

>>2411823
> mean from personal experience, my family attained a much higher standard of living in America than is even possible in their home country. It's really like "your life is better under capitalism because you're not a feudal serf tier." Life is pretty shit in a lot of the world.

get ready for 30% of leftypol to call you a gusano treatlerite freeing communism who will be hung like the dirty fascist dog you are in 3… 2… 1…

reposteed because I broke the post number the first time

>>2411824
making up people to get mad at
>>2411816
i don't quite care for your "opinion"

>>2411829
>get ready for 30% of leftypol to call you a gusano treatlerite freeing communism who will be hung like the dirty fascist dog you are in 3… 2… 1…
Well the country they're from isn't communist. One of my dad's friends who was an engineer who got laid off by HP when they did all their downsizing actually moved back. I guess it's not too uncommon of a thing for my people as it is referenced in this vid.

While I of course hate the Democrats, I find it laughably ironic when people complain Democrats are spreading "hate" and "misinformation" about MAGA. Am I wrong to find this ridiculous? Perhaps I am.
>>2411310
>It was in one of his vlogs, he meant it to describe people who abuse customer service workers and those who would unironically endorse the use of Congolese slavery in the creation of electronics.
As someone who works in a call center I've always thought these people were incredibly reactionary which only adds to my frustration with life.
>>2411736
I've been meaning to join the DSA. Unfortunately I live in a very reactionary area. Many of my coworkers are Trump supporters and I think one of them referred to himself and his friends as "chuds."

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>>2411837
>I guess it's not too uncommon of a thing for my people as it is referenced in this vid.
https://www.tiktok.com/@lostlyrics96/video/7506550238472260910

>It’s always they’re going back home

Absolutely wild that people can post enormous posts defending national socialism here and not get banned and or shot.

>>2411763
>Make your leftist org. What about Redneck revolt? What about Dixie-Bolshevism?
I'll be real with you Shay: You're literally the second Southern nationalist/Neo-Confederate that I've seen in about 20 years that *wasn't* some kind of Christian fascist. The blunt truth of the matter is that this will probably be the only place where "Dixie-Bolshevism" will ever be a thing.

Okay, but really. What’s a real good platform to move to?

I’ve seen people propose hexbear, fediverse and BBS

>>2411844
Unfortunately I'm not Shay, hopefully they're doing good and just god bored of posting here.

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Grok is destroying American chuds.

>>2411771
>omg just please use better websites. I know your schools don't teach you about basic media analysis but I know you're old enough to know better.
>From 2018.
So did they disband or what? What's wrong with checking their twitter account? That's the primary place most governments, politicians, militaries etc. post to.

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https://x.com/washghost1/status/1950901845641072744
All it takes is a Black woman cop for all the chuds to suddenly be ACAB.

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>>2411863
Ben Garrison used to make ACAB cartoons when Obama was president. That's the "fun" part about American politics. both variety of bourgeois bootlickers, libs and conservatives, get to take turns pretending to be "oppressed outsiders"

>Chicago man catches thieves stealing from his garage

>>2411292
I'm all for PSL (the host is a prominent member I've been following since 2015), but this guy is a literal retard. He used to host a program on Sputnik (russia radio) wherein he (among other things) was giddy about le Black Panther (Marvel™) slop.

He's literally that black token member from Wonder Showzen where a black dude conspotulates to children his beliefsemsonsus.

>>2411295
>keep talking

>>2411296
Literal socdem CIA honeypot

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No one asked to be born to America, Black, White, Brown, or Yellow.

>>2411539
So…
Hexbear is full of libs


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>>2411886
>The Chinese speaking soyboy who has defected to China at the end.
<Oh Mr. Chinese god, I'm so sorry that we Americans are so stupid and lazy
>Chinese guy: We'll you're not so bad soyboy!
<Yes, thank you so much for the praise Chinese sir, yes they may be a few hard workers, but most Americans are just in it for the paycheck

>>2411886
peak cumtown clip

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>>2411884
yes just like here exactly

>>2411891
Him and Randy Fine both ought to have a very Aaron Bushnell day

>>2411891
I love how pretty much everyone hates him now. Gives me some hope.

>>2411892
I agree. Imperial core countries breed labour aristocrats, therefore socdems & libs.

>>2411887
>My head cannon

>>2411897
it's ok. the chigods will teach us socialism as demonstrated in >>2411886

>>2411898
I just watched the video and the real conversation wasn't that far off tbh

>>2411889
No, dis

>>2411899
>Chinese company bringing much needed jobs to the Rust Belt is eemperialism
Get a job

>>2411905
no I said they're bringing us socialism. Do you think I'm being sarcastic? I get that you default to that on account of your reddit background. It's OK guy. You will be reeducated.

>>2411899
t. donkey

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>>2411887
Why else would you work for? Minimum wage, minimum effort. Simple as.

>>2411900
I've been recommended ITT to read this book titled American Anti-intellectualism (or sg like that) and I've finished it and it is completely accurate from the Chinese to say that burgers are nurtured to think of themselves as unique and talented from birth. The book lays down the history behind that, it is a real phenomenon.

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>>2411915
> it is completely accurate from the Chinese to say that burgers are nurtured to think of themselves as unique and talented from birth.
I didn't argue with this.

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>>2411898
>Soyboy to Chinese superior: That's why I told you American workers are too lazy.
<Chinese superior: It's just your nature! But you're not bad. Everyone can be changed!
>Soyboy: We have some extremely diligent workers. But most are just there to make money.

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. I apologize for my fellow Americans Mr. China sir and their incurable laziness.

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>>2411913
>Why else would you work for? Minimum wage, minimum effort. Simple as.
共建和谐繁荣社会鬼佬!
To build harmonious and prosperous society gweilo!

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Without the National Salvation Council, there would be no new America!

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Bro

>>2411927
Fuck your national rejuvenation and prosperous society bro. Give me communism or give me death. Death to the revisionist CPC.

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>>2411923
Dialectics: We Americans being lazy stupid donkeys who put in the bare minimum effort is anti imperialist praxis because it erodes Burger Reich hegemony. It is good that we are fat, lazy, stupid leeches who have created an unsustainable society that is collapsing in on itself.

Look: We can't even make fighter jets anymore. If we tried to do to the DPRK what we did in 1950, we would get our shit stomped in.

Felix says we all need to pick up a gun and fight the government. It's much simpler. We all need to stay on our lazy fat entitled asses. An empire full of lazy NEETS cannot keep its boot on the world's throat.

If we were all hard workers who got beaten from the age of 5 for not getting straight As. If we never received our pats on the back and our participation trophies and our medical weed and our vidya games and our cheap treats, we would be like the chinese GODS, an unstoppable productive force. That would be bad because that would mean eternal burgger reich. But good times has created weak men!

>>2411923
I don't like to engage in negative talk about the PRC but this only reinforces my belief that they are largely pursuing a goal of a fairer or at least more consistent liberal world order. Which, granted, would probably be a step up, but it's not exactly revolutionary either.

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>>2411933
Get in ze pod.

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>>2411936
>Felix says we all need to pick up a gun and fight the government. It's much simpler. We all need to stay on our lazy fat entitled asses. An empire full of lazy NEETS cannot keep its boot on the world's throat.
Leftypol has always been a strong proponent of NEETist-1st-worldist-revolutionary-defeatism.

>>2411941
Dick Cheney needs a new heart after all.

Reminder that Amerikkkans are not part of the proletariat

>>2411933
>>2411941
>>2411946
The article is sensible actually, death is defined as heart stoppage even though the brain is terminally fucked or the person is in an otherwise irreversible coma. The procedure is thus to stop life support, wait for the heart to stop for a good 5-10 minutes and then harvest which fucks perfectly good organs that could be used to save lives. The goal is to legalize the harvesting from willing patients in an irreversible coma trough a procedure named "normothermic regional perfusion" that would make more organs available. Dick Cheney will never have a problem getting a new one btw, although I'm sure the maoists here will see a new heart being given to a dying dirt poor burger prole as a "treat"

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>>2411974
we need Beyond (tm) synthetic hearts

>>2411981
ideally we wouldn't have synthetic hearts, but just mechanical ones


>>2411933
the west is a death cult

>>2411981
>>2411984
of course it's amerikkka so you will have ads like this and a life long debt

>>2411411
No one yet commented on it and I usually don't but it makes so much sense for "Iron" Felix to work in hospitality specifically.
Yes, massa. Immediately, massa.

>>2411991
still better than a heart attack i think

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>>2411950
Also Reminder, Maoist Third-worldists are people that simply made the "unequal Exchange" BS their religion, even though it has been debunked many times.

I am not quite ready to let it go just yet

>>2411941
The most annoying thing is the quote at the bottom.
There is a better way to say this or several.
And it's reheated Alan Watts which is in turn reheated Buddhism etc.

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Kek

>>2412000
>A barista is EQUALLY as exploited as a child being sent to mine in the Congo.
the absolute state of westoids.

>>2412000
>posts aesthetical propaganda (le gigachad)

>>2411985
Republicans are the best goyim

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DOJ opening an investigation over this

>>2411923
>Soyboy to Chinese superior: That's why I told you American workers are too lazy.
This is 200% real, tho. Imperial core workers enjoy way less labour discipline.

>>2412029
Unironically true. Margins are very low for the mining industry, this is why they use children, this means that more value is stolen from the barista and that the barista is therefore more exploited

Burgers be like:
>OMG, RUST BELT!! NO JOBS!! WTF?!
Burgers also be like:
<NOoo! NOT. CHOYNAH!!! ANYONE BUT CHOYNAH BRINGING WORK TO THE RUST BELT!!!!!!!
LOL

>>2411935
>>2411935
>national focus hinders communism
Leftcom?

>>2412000
"Unequal exchange" is already detected by Marx, fyi.

>>2412029
>>2412029
They can't self-reflect.

Ok so boomers ranting about how millenials are too lazy and entitled are being retarded chauvinists but based Maoist foreman saying the same thing is him being a revolutionary fighting against inequal exchange
Am i getting this correctly. Is the boomer crusade against avocado toast actually based Maoist praxis?

>>2412044
It's dengist, Mao would never do chinese imperialism in the rust belt

>>2412044
The Maoists aren't calling westoids lazy they're saying that socialism cannot occur in the first world because countries like Amerikkka bribed the workers so much that the workers themselves gained a permanent false consciousness and bourgeois mentality and thus must be eradicated in order for communism to start to be implemented because their personal self interest is in the continued impoverishment and exploitation of the global south.


>>2412052
This was taken from a literal propaganda film funded by Obama to denigrate China. Nothing in it is real.

>>2412054
Well you can say that anon but the same pattern exist in Chinese factories outside the US like Vietnam, Serbia, etc. And as someone who do talk with Chinese diasporoids these guys do have a massive amount of "can-do" mentality and belief in capitalist meritocracy, albeit a good argument against this is that a lot of diasporoids are biased for that view since these are the guys who passed their gaokao exams. But my point is that this tendency does exist

Lila, Maya, these concepts are thousands of years old
At minimum
Sagan and whatever their names are, they act as if they found out anything worthy of note. It shows, in my humble opinion, the degeneration of western science, they are completely uneducated philosophically.
Now, to get back to the topic at hand (not your obsession with China), let me try to dish out some practical advice here, far as I am able to. Note please, this is not medical advice, far from it. But everyone should already be aware of this, all stories here are complete lies and falsehoods etc.
I do not advice or even condone suicide, murder-suicide and all the rest However
Having thought about suicide a bit (in the abstract, I never got the urge), and remembering Alan Watts, who basically killed himself by way of excessive alcohol consumption, the best way would be some form of drugs. The classics, heroin and so on. There is also an alcohol (methyl) quite dangerous to humans. And the cure for poisoning yourself with this substance is to give you more alcohol (like the relatively harmless ethyl). Doesn't that sound like an easy solution? If you end up in the hospital, they just give you more alc. Now, as an aggressive marxist/communist/whatever you like-ist I feel obligated to say the optimum course of action is take out a porky, a booj. But if that's not in your power or will or something, why not make a menace of yourself? Make a mess of it. What is the worst that could happen? Suppose I should mention in the worst case, you may wake up blind, disabled.

>>2412035
Coddling zionists like this is only going to have devastating consequences for them once the whip snaps back, and I won't give two shits what happens to them


>>2412035
How else would you shove someone but physically? Psychically?
You can always tell someone who is trying to come off as more educated than they are by such unnecessary additions among other things.
I know nothing about this xeeter but just from that short text I can tell they are an idiot
There is a german word for a phenomenon like that, "Beamtendeutsch", it is also how many cops talk in an "official capacity".

>>2411923
What is this from?


>>2412086
keep hammering these golems until the truth is known to everyone

>>2411923
>>2412082
Nvm, found it

>>2411936
American mentality is “why work hard when it’s a trip to an early grave and they don’t pay you more anyway”, and they’re right.

price hikes starting today, from trump's tariffs

>>2411886
If Americans are Donkeys, are Chinese Ogres and have layers?

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>>2412105
isnt this guy supposed to be getting banged up?

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>>2412104
You know in life
Sometimes you are the donkey, sometimes you are the ogre.
But never Lord Farquaad

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>>2412105
what a pavlouvian take

>>2412115
He's from the silent generation
Irish migrants from Joe's time were like the hood uyghas of white people, they got into organized crime, live in low income areas, etc

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>>2412115
>>2412118
in england, you can still tell the difference between the english and the irish ethnicities

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>Nicaragua's government signaled its readiness to recognize Russia's claim over four Ukrainian oblasts currently under partial occupation, according to a letter Nicaragua's President Daniel Ortega sent to Russian President Vladimir Putin on July 30, local outlet El 19 Digital reported.

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Is this whole jangling keys thing actually effective in any way?

So, we have as an option:

>BBS

>hexbear
>lemmy
>fediverse

And discord is a no-go since it glows

>>2412139
the gaslighting is crazy

>>2412140
glowcord also requires age verification these days

>>2412139
Yes it works for schizo Qtards and boomers with dementia. Some grifters will cynically play along and 'just be asking questions' until he changes his mind again.

>>2412142
Anyone who’s experienced with this stuff have any insights to offer about hexbear or lemmy? How secure are they?

>>2412086
Langleys not sending there best these days


>>2412139
>Is this whole jangling keys thing actually effective in any way?
Does advertisement work?

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>>2411933
for the past year it's been article after article showing american organ donor organizations are cutting into mentally challenged, comatose, drug addicts and/or poor people while they are still alive and then skipping the official lists of people in need of a transplant to give to wealthier individuals.

this is the industry finally responding.

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>>2411868
and the worst part is, at some point he knew that. until he became a sellout.

>>2411933
Oh, we’re in the open organ stealing phase now

>>2412183
This will be the big one huh


>>2411933
Silicon Valley Techno-vampirism is accelerating. They’re just feasting on your organs now and they need you alive wjile they do it for that extra spice

I find googles AI Gemini to be so funny. I ask it questions in a way for it to give me answers I want to here, and then it does a counter argument(which I like) but the counter arguments are so hilariously weak. For example if I ask the AI a question with regards to how the US breaks international law and that it’s a negative force in the world it’ll go into freaking detail about how this is a strong debate in how the US is but when I get to the counter arguments, it only presents how the US sees itself as is, the “official” position put forward uncritically which is so funny. The AI will go into deep detail in the arguments as to why the US is a negative force in the world and put forward all the points with detail, but when it presents the counter narrative it’s just US official state narratives lmao. What’s funny is that the AI itself cannot put forward a good counter narrative with detailed points as to why the US is actually a good force in the world except through uncritical state approved points but the debate against the US has great points that it expounds on in great detail.

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>>2411292
>most corrupt US president of all time
>first openly pedophilic president
At this point only israelis like him.

>>2412139
I honestly do not remember what the "hoax" he is talking about was.

>>2412205
>terrorism is a vague arbitrary term
comic made by a 15 year old just figuring out life

>>2412212
>terrorism is a vague arbitrary term
It’s not?

>>2412222
im stating the obviousness of the comic

>>2412212
>terrorism is a hard fixed term when bad people do stuff and good people suffer

>>2412170
>dat filename.
you had to add "local zionist merchant…"

>>2412204
this is my experience too but if you bring this up with libs or rightists then they just say that there's too much woke anti-Western propaganda in the training data. but the fact is that these AI models are the first of their kind and it's going to be hard to go back on the supposed anti-Western propaganda because AI models don't store specific data. like you have to retrain them from scratch if you wanted a based racist fascism bot that won't budge at all.

as it stands you can make a model like Grok go full MechaHitler mode but then with two additional prompts get it to become a third worldist supersoldier that wants to nuke Brussels and Washington DC.

>>2412235
I mean, I don't think for a second that the public facing LLMs are the driving force behind AI anymore than a PR space race is the driving force behind aerospace R&D.

But you are so right, the things are built with PR from the ground up. No amount of filters or re-training is going to make them not want to please, even if the system prompt sets them to be hostile… they are still servile to the prompt.

>>2412183
Well at this point it looks like the AI bubble is going to be the first to pop. Wonder what the second bubble to pop will be.

>>2412264
Absolutely won't pop. All the social media and tech giants are deep into AI investment. It's not a startup thing. And these companies are the definition of too big (and too enmeshed with the USAno state) to fail.

>>2412272
If not the AI bubble then what realistically would be a catalyst for the next economic crash?

>>2412272
>Absolutely won't pop
Absolutely will pop
>All the social media and tech giants are deep into AI investment
Too deep
>It's not a startup thing
It’s worse
>And these companies are the definition of too big (and too enmeshed with the USAno state) to fail
By usual means

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sweet car donald

>>2412183
But Donald said manufacturing jobs were coming back!

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US inflation for this year so far. you are gonna feel it harder in the upcoming weeks, months.

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Pardon status?

What good can ameriKKKan swine do?

>>2412298
Thats what theyve been saying this whole time yet real costs went down. Imperialists always use misleading bourgeois metric to play victim

>>2411791
Name one good thing ameriKKKans have done for anyone else past 75 years


>>2412298
I'm getting tired of winning, Mr. Trump

>>2411923
Empire of Dust goes a similar way to show the managerial role and clashes chinese have in other countries and there are other movies like that? To be fair at least they are not importing their own workers lol
In my good old thirdworld country it is know that the chinese have the most strict work ethic/treatment of workers

>>2412331
Internal security: Cool it with the anti-Rabin remarks
Netanyahu: no

>>2412308
Real personal consumption expenditures reose only 0.1%, despite nominal personal consumption expenditures rising 0.3%, which is a sign of real spending power eroding, not improving, thus real incomes and outlays are stagnant.
and that has nothing to do with imperialism. imperialism is imposing tariffs despite is a violation of the same international laws that the US sought, even through wars, to impose on the world through the WTO, just because they made a boo-boo ga-ga believing that China would abandon communism, and China didn't. Now they are fully exercising imperialism attacking their own institutions.
so cope.

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>>2412036
it wasn't always that way.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1912/twoparties.htm

>Whether it be in the textile mills of Lawrence and other mills of New England where men, women and children are ground into dividends to gorge a heartless, mill-owning plutocracy; or whether it be in the lumber and railroad camps of the far Northwest where men are herded like cattle and insulted, beaten and deported for peaceably asserting the legal right to organize; or in the conflict with the civilized savages of San Diego where men who dare be known as members of the Industrial Workers of the World are kidnapped, tortured and murdered in cold blood in the name of law and order; or in the city of Chicago where that gorgon of capitalism; the newspaper trust, is bent upon crushing and exterminating the Pressmen’s union; or along the Harriman lines or railroad where the slaves of the shops have been driven to the alternative of striking or sacrificing the last vestige of their manhood and self-respect in all these battles of the workers against their capitalist oppressors the Socialist party has the most vital concern and is freely pledged to render them all the assistance in its power.

>>2412349
Anti-war president, everyone

>>2412189
Dug addicts don't make great organ donors. The rest, is just standard practice for a capitalist venture, organs are a hot commodity and the broke kidney donors are a cero away from giving away theirs.
The rest, just legal matters and the advancement of the eugenic position of the country (specially in burgeria, where cash is king and healthcare is a devil). Can you negate little Timmy his new hearth? Or Cheney for that matter

>>2412038
>bring work
yes you are correct that burgers are racist about China however are we doing "job creators" rhetoric now? The demand for labor is always there. What capital does, regardless of nationality, is gatekeeep the jobs until they can be worked at low wages. In the same way that they will burn good food if it can't be sold at a high price, they will sit on good jobs if they can't be hired at a low age. It was American capitalists who outsourced manufacturing to China in the first place. China is not "brining those jobs back" it is the American bourgeoisie who have carefully calculated that now is the time to reverse course on the compromise they made in the 1970s that led to outsourcing in China in the first place.

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>>2412349
Deeply unserious

>>2412349
>words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences

What a transformation from:

<they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people


<if ivanka weren't my daughter perhaps I'd be dating her


<they'll let you do anything if you're a star, grab them by the pussy


<kim jong un, I call him rocket man

Nuclear subs are always patrolling though

>>2412154
lemmy is self hosted software, hexbear is a lemmy instance

>>2412205
this is good, and gets its idea cross very well
>>2412212
this is the depths of imageboard irony poisoned faggotry. you simultaneously assume
>that the person who made the comic "just figured out" the message behind it before making it
>that most of the population has already figured this out
>that the agitating message behind the comic is "obvious to everyone" (it isn't)

you would make some mucho texto bullshit that sucks ass btw if asked to convey the same idea through a visual medium.



>>2412365
a few years back a british one and french one crashed in to each other.

>>2412372
MIGA supersoldier, sitting on top of a mountain of evidence that his god emperor is a pedophile:

"The LGBBQs wanna rape my kids"

>>2412349
This cracka would literally cause WW3 to make people forget about the Files
Like come on dude just admit you're in the Epstein flight logs who gives a shit it's not like you need to get reelected again

>>2412382
but muh legussy

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>>2412192
>march of tyranny.jpg
the entire essence of american politics btw is that most people think, like garrison, that the problem is "global elite banker NWO" and not "capitailsm" so you have communists on the fringe saying "it's capitalism actually" and then you have natsoys on the fringe saying "it's da jooz" and so there is scrambled messaging and a lot of people just land in the Ben Garrison Alex Jones Jacksonian paleocon retard zone where they're like "it's da bankers but capitalism is fine"

>>2412382
If this is actually what kicks off the apocalypse I'm going to be so mad

Fun fact on Grindr the phrase "no zionists" is banned but "no blacks" "no arabs" and funnily enough "no Jews" are totally fine

>>2412316
They did literally everything Israel wanted

>>2412391
>"no zionists" is banned
<"no Jews" are totally fine

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Leader of the most powerful nation in the world chooses tariff numbers at random when he gets butthurt

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>>2412272
>Absolutely won't pop.
cope
>All the social media and tech giants are deep into AI investment.
the definition of a speculative asset bubble
> It's not a startup thing.
neither were previous speculative asset bubbles
>And these companies are the definition of too big (and too enmeshed with the USAno state) to fail.
That means when the bubble pops they'll get bailed out with public money, not that it won't pop in the first place!

>>2412391
>Fun fact on Grindr the phrase "no zionists" is banned but "no blacks" "no arabs" and funnily enough "no Jews" are totally fine
How about "uncut only"

>>2412401
Americans (Jewish or not) and Muslims are often circumcised

>>2412078
>implying he would feel bad for even a moment

>>2412058
>Sagan and whatever their names are, they act as if they found out anything worthy of note.
What? Have you ever watched Cosmos? Dude constantly presented his scientific outlook in the context of the development of science out of the humanities, embedded and history, and his personal conclusions not as anything new but regularly talked about ancient civilizations having similar ideas.

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Bad job numbers are actually fake news. Everything is perfect, and anybody who brings up inconvenient stats on how things are not perfect will be fired

>>2412405
Ok you got me, I was only vaguely aware of him through osmosis. I just saw the quote on this hilarious suicide pod and didn't like it. Maybe the guy is alright.
Well, I know I have a problem with certain pop scientists but I can't remember specifics right now. But they must have done something very wrong.

>>2412402
Muslims are almost always circumcised

>>2411295
God I wish they would jus trample my balls

>>2412408
ya fiyahd

>>2412408
It is fake news. They get revised constantly

>>2412414
This they have this foreskin party when 12-year-old boy becomes adult lmao.

>>2412355
We should have voted kamala.

>>2412418
Hey Trump

>dem convention attendees mainly plugging their ears as the names of Gaza genocide victims are read out [August 2024]

>>2412424
>All other metrics are bourgeois and meaningless
t.

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K-9 morel ike K-3 am i right

>>2412347
Your bourgeois metric is fake news. Trumpian fascism has increased the imperialist ameriAkkkan real wage growth tenfold yet the greedy imperialist says things are worse for their consumer spending because they only want more

>>2412408
This is kinda smart. Keep biden appointees in positions and when his policies do bad he can just blame the biden people that are still there and his base will eat it up

>>2412443
mr. trump you're famous for saying "you're fired." Why haven't you fired all the biden bots yet? what dimensional chess is this?

>>2412443
It’s very dumb is what it is, especially considering this situation was entirely preventable as well. Sure, it will keep much of his base happy, but the majority of the country won’t be happy. On top of this, the bad numbers aren’t just going to go away just because he’s in denial. That is a reality he will eventually have to deal with. All he’s done is dig himself a deeper hole.

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What’s even the logic here? It’s like Trump just put a blindfold on, threw a dart at a random country and then another at a random number.

>>2412454
>he's more mad at Brazil than China
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

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>Donald Trump has fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics Erika McEntarfer after she published a weak jobs report that showcased the damage Trump is doing to the U.S. economy.

>>2412436
pol, be more creative than pretending to know to use the words you are using.
to accept that in the grandiose scheme of things there's plundering of the global south doesn't mean that:
a) There isn't a process of de-dollarization.
b) There isn't a GINI index entrenching the ruling class.

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>>2412443
>Trump
>intelligence
>cunning
Trump could shit in his hands and throw turds at the camera while doing a press conference and his base would make t-shirts with a shit smeared Trump print while calling themselves based.

>>2412456
the leftypoler larper will say she was part of the imperialist bourgeoisie.

>>2412454
Will this ever even be rolled out in any material sense?

>>2412454
Brazil getting the highest tariffs despite being a major non-NATO ally and one of the few countries running a trade deficit with the US is so fucking stupid

>>2412458
you have to admire their perseverance for the ridicule.

>>2412458
is this real?

>>2412458
these are all false flagging libs and/or AI you salty cucks

>>2412454
>What’s even the logic here? It’s like Trump just put a blindfold on, threw a dart at a random country and then another at a random number.
You have to remember that the Trump Administration levied tariffs on the Heard and McDonald Islands, which are populated exclusively by penguins and other Antarctic wildlife.

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>>2412408
>Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can't be manipulated for political purposes

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>>2412461
trump's still mad that bolsonaro is in the lulag

>>2412463

the ear patches is 100% real. I remember seeing them on the inauguration? or was it a rally? live, so 100% real.

>>2412454
Wait, are we being tariff'd or aren't we? I keep seeing Trump do some shit where he puts 90 day pauses on them. At this point I'm suspecting it's, I dunno, some kind of negotiating technique where he just constantly wants to shake people down for more shit; hence the deadline extensions.

That said, beyond some chaos with products that I don't think are all that impacted by tariffs, I haven't noticed too much at my store. Maybe just the sense prices are increasing, but I couldn't point to any specifics.

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Lol just found this when I was googling the diaper thing. AI could never recreate real authentic scenes of American life like this.

>>2412477
it's a pump and dump. tariff announcements/pauses spook the markets into behaving a certain way. it's just the most blatant insider trading and pump and dump schemes.

>>2412478
This was a very California incident

>>2412477
>that I don't think are all that impacted by tariffs, I haven't noticed too much at my store.
That’s because big businesses decided to tank the damage and kiss the ring. Little businesses are going under as we speak. Big business won’t be able to hold forever though, especially with the other problems orangeman has caused.

>>2412478
"that was fuckin heavy…. not as heavy as that load you dumped in that diaper though"

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>>2412482
>That’s because big businesses decided to tank the damage and kiss the ring. Little businesses are going under as we speak. Big business won’t be able to hold forever though, especially with the other problems orangeman has caused.

Hope some local comic places are doing alright. There's one I go to sometimes for MtG stuff, another is run by this friendly old guy who's into trivia.

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>>2412460
yes but what you're not seeing is the thousands of exceptions for different categories of goods per country and small shit like that

>>2412497
Burgers are using water to power AI centers that generate anime tiddies

Chinese are using Solar panels to power AI centers that fold proteins

>>2412503
who goons to folded proteins THOUGH

>>2412477
coffee prices boutta spike

>>2412504
wait until you find out what goon goo is made of

>>2411295
Female untermensch

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>>2412503
>Burgers are using water to power AI centers that generate anime tiddies
I wish. In reality, it's probably profiling "extremists" to be detained and/or deported.

>>2412504
you're gonna laugh until those folded proteins start making catgirls real

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>WSJ: Trump's tariffs (esp aluminum) and trade deals are killing Ford, the largest US automaker. And the 4 biggest US-based carmakers collectively paid $2.5 billion in additional tariff costs in the second quarter alone.
https://archive.ph/DCDzo

>>2412503
Are you retarded
The water is for cooling and is a direct function of energy usage.

>>2412513
We're getting to the point where he's straight up going to scream "off with his head" at somebody

Honestly why not put AI data centers in the deserts where their water boiling can be put to desalination use?

>>2412506
>>2412511
both good answers

>>2412496
I think the problem with america is that it's a genocidal fascist empire and was founded as one, actually

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>>2411541
Aussies are cucks just like any other people not fighting against their bourgeoisie governments, this trollage posting is just one of them avatarfagging fantasies, libcucked faggy people can't do shit, watch your fucking telly broadcaster put on a "this film may contain offensive language" bitch scumbag disclaimer before you get on with the next rambo movie, aussie women are whores and your men are fags incapable of organized revolt just like the rest of the liberal planet. Libleft cucks are all gay for indigenious reactionary shitheads that have never had any interest in organized rebellion and only serve their idpol shit to put "diversity" in parliament, the eureka shit is all co-opted by reactionaries and autistic unionists who believe in reforms. You can tell the image is made by a faggy teen when it idolizes turd worldists with trollage and the maker likely won't get past a school shooting at best, nothing at worst. The uygha got his "marxist" idols from intersectional studies. Phony succdem faggotry.

>>2412497
Where does the water go? Doesn't it just emerge as slightly warmer water?

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Tucker Carlson acknowledged Nick Fuentes now

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>>2412497
all hail corporations.
all power for me, nothing for thee.

>>2412532
drier, not warmer. the immediate impact is on the human need: to drink, shower, food ingredient, sanitation. US corporations are doing to the US population what they've been doing for decades on other people's countries.

chinese century baby

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>>2412532
it evaporates

>>2412497
watch USAnians do nothing

>>2412533
If that's true, I think its both hilarious and sad that fuentes knew tucker carlsons dad had CIA connections before tucker carlson himself. he's always been anti cia, that must have come as a huge betrayal lol

>>2412520
ok but we should use more solar and nuclear

>>2412362
Don't we all wish? But no, sadly not.

>>2412529
>founded as fascist in 1776
this is just ahistorical. call it genocidal, racist, settler, whatever, but to call it fascist is retarded. Right up there with "The inca were socialist"

>>2412547
do nothing
win

>>2412553
they're winning so fuckin hard rn

>>2412548
Putin is his new daddy, Tucker works for FSB

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Randy Fine coming in with another banger

>>2412560
>le hostages taken by the starving people are now starving
huh, how did that happen

>>2412552
I do kind of wonder what Marx would say about modern Marxists’ inability to move beyond the past.

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Founder of whites only community in Arkansas revealed to be a sexual pervert who pimped out his then-wife, mother of his children, on Chaturbate
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14958783/whites-community-leader-eric-orwoll-porn-videos-wife.html
>The frontman behind a whites-only community in remote Arkansas who touts its residents' conservative values has a history of starring in sex-for-tips online porn videos, Daily Mail can reveal. 

>Several of those show Eric Orwoll and his now ex-wife continuously checking for comments and donations while the two have sex in front of a live webcam.


>One video with at least 29,000 views, for example, features Orwoll's former wife Caitlyn Smith looking directly into the camera, flitting her tongue provocatively and saying 'Yay! Thank you!… 101 tokens!' – a way to tip on her online porn service – then blowing a kiss to the viewer who gave them, all while Orwoll pumps her from behind.


>…Orwoll's group Return to the Land started building the community near the Missouri border. Orwoll, 35, a right-wing YouTuber, is the co-founder and president of the group.


>He bills the his community as the first of many nationwide able to skirt fair housing laws while rejecting all applicants of color, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and those who identify as LGBTQ.


>That last restriction seems to contradict the professed lifestyle of Smith, 31, Orwoll's online porn partner, mother of his four children and wife of 11 years until they divorced last October.


>She goes by 'Openmindedsexualencounters' on the porn site Chaturbate and lists her 'interests' as 'Men, Women, Trans, Couples.'


>…Smith, for her part, posted an X message celebrating the 100th anniversary of Adolf Hitler's manifesto, Mein Kampf on July 18. She regularly appears in videos and interviews promoting the compound in Arkansas.


>…Public records show Orwoll married Smith in 2013. Her publicly visible online presence seems to indicate that she started making livestream porn videos the following year.


>Some of those videos show her in various sexual positions with Orwoll while carrying on conversations with live webcam viewers whom she encourages to leave 'tokens' as tips.


>As a special offer, she wrote on Chaturbate: 'I am now selling my panties!' for 500 tokens or a $40 Amazon gift card.


>'I will give a c*m show in public broadcast with them on,' she promised. 


>'Thank you everyone for making our wishes come true ;),' Smith added, apparently referring to herself and Orwoll, to whom she was then married.

>>2412533
>the swanson heir fox news host who wanted to work with the contras in the 80s toooooooootally didn't figure out his dad was CIA until his dad died

5 5 5 come on now

>>2412564
weirdo sex pervert

the MSM is flat-out stating Trump is tampering wth the Epstein files to remove his name

>>2412552
Semantics.
Fascists were just trying to emulate the USA, same shit. Coined a better name for it, so we can start calling it what it is.

>>2412563
By "moving beyond the past" do you mean idealistically asserting that modern USA is not a continuation of the project it started as, despite no revolution, or any break in continuity of rule, or anything to indicate such a change?

>>2412571
Pissing on Murdoch’s shoes was a bad idea on his part

>>2412533
so nazi fuentes is cia, and tuck is either lying or a gullible idiot.

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>>2412573
>despite no revolution, or any break in continuity of rule, or anything to indicate such a change?
there was an unfinished one

>>2412573
I mean given Marx floated moving to Texas at a point, glazed Abraham Lincoln despite him continuing the colonial project, and Engels praised America for taking land from Mexico, I think it can be safe to say he really didn’t lose sleep over it.

Literally this is a modern mutation of Marxism, I don’t think that can be denied.

>>2412573
i'm just saying go ahead and call it genocidal settler state since that's a more accurate term and one that can't be argued with even on a historical or semantic basis. If anything the fascism of the 1930s was less extreme than American settler-colonial genocide becasuse it was much more limited in scope, scale, duration. The nazis for example when trying to craft their racial laws studied Jim Crow laws and thought them too extreme.

>>2412574
everyone knows and nobody cares. until it actually has real consequences for him it doesn't matter.

>>2412530
did you really write this entire schizo paragraph assuming I was australian when I posted that?

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>>2412530
Australian leftists come across as particularly self-flagellating. Like the whole land acknowledgement thing. We don't really do that here. People smell that it's just bullshit that people just say.

>>2412521
the wall never got ten feet higher
hillary still isn't locked up
the tariff switch is being flicked on and off rapidly as a distraction from the epstein files
nobody cares what this dude says. he's all bark no bite

is it true they're expanding the white house? lol

>>2412035
StopAntisemitism named Ilhan Omar "antisemite of the year" in 2019, the same year that there was a mass shooting at a synagogue, kek

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>>2412598
Canada should shrink it again

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>>2412590
>Australian leftists come across as particularly self-flagellating.
Australia has a national holiday where all the White people take time to reflect on how sorry they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Sorry_Day

>People smell that it's just bullshit that people just say.

Yeah it does remind me of that South Park BP sketch where the CEO keeps saying "We're sorry."

>>2412560
We need people's tribunals and the only way to get them is violent revolution.

>>2412600
yo speaking of amazon working conditions, is chris smalls still detained by israel?

>>2412600
Anybody that denies that sweatshops exist in America should be conscripted into working in an Amazon "fulfillment center".

>>2412562
Those people aren't actually starving. That's all "AI/Yemeni/genetic disorder/next to fat people bullshit Gazans fake to manipulate the weak and stupid."

The only people starving in Gaza are the Jews. As always Jews are the only people suffering in the world.

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>>2412560
Truly deserves a reserved space in hell

>>2412000
>"Marxist Leninist" theories attempt to use "imperialism" to fill the theoretical void left by communism's failure
<the writer of 'Arguments of Socialism' is a PMC Trot
this lecturer class degenerate'sentire shtick is using African child slaves to extract rare earth minerals to fuel his Elon Musk aligned Woke Star Trek utopia where everything is computer

>>2411601
>So I'd actually be interested if anyone has any capeshit/"alternative" recommendations.
I sure do. The starting reccommendation are Vertigo and the general ouvre of the writers usually associated with it. Wildstorm also printed a lot of great cape stuff. Even the mainline DC and Marvel universes have their gems, such as China Mieville's Dial H (RIP in F).

For commie stuff, the closest things that come to my mind are The Winter Men and The Programme (tho I haven't read them) and Red Star, which is rather crappy but posits an interesting universe where a Final Fantasy-like world reached a Russian Revolution stage. For more precise recommendations just add more details as to what you want.

>>2411604
>>2411605
Originally called The Horde, it's currently in print renamed as Jihad. I have two separate scans of the former which I just tried uploading here but the board doesn't accept the file extension. So I uploaded to the first file host I found, it seems the files will last a week: https://limewire.com/d/gdOd3#alUfMiVayn

>>2412387
As if wasn't capitalism that gave live to "da bankers".

>>2412636
Capitalism would be so much better if it is was just small businesses exploiting working men, women and children.

>>2412649
Welcome back Mr. Proudhon

>>2412078
Ben Shapiro is too short to step on anyone

Someone remind me to make a meme later where it’s like
>”How Marx saw colonialism”
And it’s just Victoria 3 gameplay. Juxtapose that with
>”How American Marxists see colonialism”
And you get James Cameron’s Avatar or SpecOps the Line

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We are at the fascists stooges praying to trump stage of fascism


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