/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Hunh?
Materialism means there's stuff out there that does stuff to stuff and doesn't care about what we think

There's wierd shit down there at those levels is all I'm willing to say without refreshing myself on current developments in the field

>>2413428
But what if your balls get quantum entangled with the balls of an alien and if they flick their nutsack you feel it too??

>>2413430
Well that would be wierd but I don't really care about that, yes stuff out there does stuff to stuff, some of that stuff is counter-intuitive once we start looking at the micro level of physics, once you get down to the really low levels there's wierd shit like evervescent black holes from the amount of energy that is constantly being created and destroyed, interesting shit, I'd love to have a chat with you about it

What I'm not seeing here is whatever strange point you're trying to make with materialism, could you delve into that a bit more?

ngl sounds a bit like that old greek philosoher who said there's matter (stuff that's local and knowable) and the void (stuff that's global and unknowable) and the movement in the void moves things in the world (entanglement)

Politicians shouldn't intervene in science. Specially math and physics.

>>2413422
I'll have to consult my socialist science books.

>>2413510
You‘re joking but the philosophical foundations of how to make sense of the material world do differ between Marxists and the current status quo

>>2413538
yes, because marxists work from dogmatic presupppsitions, not science. its like any religion.

>>2413543
Such as?

As a scientific materialist I will simply reject your false dichotomy on the basis that neither non-determinism nor non-locality violate the extended physicalist definition of modern materialism.

Why does OP think philosophy can solve physics problems? Is xir stupid?

>>2413538
No. Marxism is just aplied sociology and economics. Don't need to overextend it to anywhere it doesn't make sense.

I drop locality.

None of this has any political implications

>>2413422
I think the answer might be that it's probably not consequential in the physical scales Marxists are interested in, like how some engineering fields do their work with classical mechanics since something like quantum mechanics or general relativity would be overkill.

>>2413422
Sir, this is a leftist discussion forum. /siberia/.

>>2413510
Pass the pdfs on Engelist occult sciences, Tektology and marxist mathematics (although this should only be das kapital? or the esteemed works of the soviet academy of mathematics -and all of the socialist countries for that matter-)

>>2413646
Here you go
https://chateauschmatte.substack.com/p/why-stalin-is-a-god
Another important point of diamat super science is that a break through in one field often applies to many other fields, and things like the zone of proximal development

>>2413422
>Which side do you pick and why?
I pick the third side.
Fascism is therefore opposed to all
individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth
century materialism; and it is opposed to all
Jacobinistic utopias and innovations. It does not
believe in the possibility of “happiness” on earth
as conceived by the economistic literature of
the 18th century, and it therefore rejects the
theological notion that at some future time the
human family will secure a final settlement of all its
difficulties. This notion runs counter to experience
which teaches that life is in continual flux and in
process of evolution. In politics Fascism aims at
realism; in practice it desires to deal only with those
problems which are the spontaneous product of
historic conditions and which find or suggest
their own solutions. Only by entering in to the
process of reality and taking possession of the forces
at work within it, can man act on man and on nature.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life
stresses the importance of the State and accepts the
individual only in so far as his interests coincide
with those of the State, which stands for the
conscience and the universal, will of man as a
historic entity. It is opposed to classical liberalism
which arose as a reaction to absolutism and
exhausted its historical function when the State
became the expression of the conscience and will of
the people. Liberalism denied the State in the name
of the individual; Fascism reasserts
The rights of the State as expressing the real essence
of the individual. And if liberty is to he the attribute of
living men and not of abstract dummies invented by
individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for
liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the
liberty of the State and of the individual within the
State. The Fascist conception of the State is all
embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values
can exist, much less have value. Thus understood,
Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State — a
synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values —
interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a
people.

>>2413666
I kneel to Elbagod
Thanks, in compensation here is a page that supposedly has books of the MIR editorial. For all the pleasures of a scientific mind
https://mirtitles.org/

>>2413688
>posting spiritualist idealism in the materialism thread
ishygddt

>>2413422
Classical mechanics already implies global reasoning with the Hamiltonian and so on.

> scientific
>proven
lol