Being right-wing is often the worst position to criticize anything from, because every direction you swing exposes your own foundation. If you're Christian and anti-Semitic, you're sawing off the branch you're sitting on. Your savior was a Jew, your scripture is Jewish, your moral code is Jewish law repackaged for empire. Attack the Jew and you attack your own metaphysics. Undermine them, and the West’s entire religious heritage begins to unravel. Christianity isn’t an antidote to Jewish influence—it was the delivery system. Which makes the "Christian nationalist" a contradiction: waving the banner of a foreign god while cursing his kin.
Go racial instead, and it gets even worse. Make it about whiteness, and you inherit the full weight of Western history—every atrocity, every conquest, every empire built on bones. If the West is collapsing, and you claim white men built it, then the blame is yours too. You can’t have the cathedrals and clean cities without the colonization and corpses. You can’t take credit for the structure without answering for its rot. The more you elevate race or heritage, the more inescapable the accountability becomes.
>>2414645we are also living during not only the long general historical trend towards socialism as a mode of production but also happening with this in the superstructure there is a reevaluation of all (west european, imperialist) values we have. it's why now during ideological and organizational confusion, the powers that be do not want the educated proletariat to get into contact with lucid marxist ideas of class war and revolution but pushes nietzschean irrationalism as the core of our value system is fixated inwards, towards the angst ridden doomed petty bourgeois that gives rise to values such as individualism, consumerism, identity politics and everything we hate with the world, and manifests itself as the hustler, the businessman, the enterperneur.
which way, western marxist? will you end up eating from the trash can of ideology?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1934/capitalist-culture.htm >>2414653>we are also living during not only the long general historical trend towards socialism as a mode of productionliberalism has already established the end of history.
>the powers that be do not want the educated proletariat to get into contact with lucid marxist ideas of class war and revolutionwhy dont you contact the "educated proletariat" yourself?
>nietzschean irrationalismbuzzwords
>the angst ridden doomed petty bourgeois that gives rise to values such as individualism, consumerism, identity politics and everything we hate with the worldis class politics not just another form of identity? thats why you can replace "bourgeoisie" with "jew" and your far left text suddenly becomes far right. theyre both symptoms of the same pathology.
>>2414696terrible rebuttal.
liberalism has defeated the nazis and soviets.
>>2414735Rlly
Xi Jinping is bringing back autocracy but Chinese society has become fundamentally liberal and urbane
The Islamists who won in Syria and Afghanistan are now focusing on courting foreign investments even though rank and file retards are still obsessed with killing minorities
Liberalism is just a superior system man since it gives room for people to practice their systems of ethics and religion while still leaving room for other people's belief system, idk what else to tell you. Any attempt by either chuds or libtards to force their moral system by force only result in repulsing people and make them liberal.
>If the West is collapsing, and you claim white men built it, then the blame is yours too
Yes. History is an eternal battle against the forces of entropy. Our fight, as right wingers, is to reinvigorate another generation of the West so that we may live another day as the foremost civilization of the world. Whiteness, in and of itself, does not build a civilization. It's a necessary but not sufficient ingredient in the development of the West.
>You can’t have the cathedrals and clean cities without the colonization and corpses
I'm gonna give two somewhat contradictory answers to this here. One, I don't really care. I care first and foremost about my people, and anything bad that happens to others is of less concern to me. But secondly, our wealth isn't really built on corpses. Barbarism and death is just a fact of life, and we in many cases alleviated it.
>>2414682>is class politics not just another form of identity? thats why you can replace "bourgeoisie" with "jew" and your far left text suddenly becomes far right. theyre both symptoms of the same pathology.Antisemitism is usually a dodge to avoid taking responsibility for something. Like Trump does a thing and people say the Jews did this, but a lot of these people have been shilling Trump for years. These weasels might say something in response like "well the Jews duped me" but they won't say they were ever duping anybody. But that's BS. There's usually some kind of projection involved.
There's a fair number of rightists who think antisemitism is a way to turn socialists into rightists, and they are sometimes successful, but usually with stupid and vulgar populist forms of socialism. Like if their motivations are mainly based in resentment or revenge or something. But the thing with wealth being the focus of the critique rather than some ontological status is that you can theoretically take someone's money without taking away their life. Jews by their very existence as Jews is their problem in this other imaginary. It's also a bit like a fantasy monster hunt: the dragons are hoarding all the gold in the mountains, so go slay them.
There's also a big chunk of the left which has inherited the tradition of the Enlightenment. They see themselves as being part of a bigger battle between obscurantism on one side, and truth and reason on the other. They are "defenders of the rights for all citizens" and believe in democracy and secularism. There are some leftists who are like "that's just a bunch of jive and a distraction from the class struggle" but that can only be maintained for so long when you have a bunch of antisemitic reactionary nationalists running around wanting to throw everyone to their left into a concentration camp.
>>2416112As a rightist, I think Trump has served a useful purpose in shifting the overton window to the right wing.
>But the thing with wealth being the focus of the critique rather than some ontological status is that you can theoretically take someone's money without taking away their lifeBut the problem with it is that wealth is just a stand in for power. And power hierarchies are a fact of life.
>Jews by their very existence as Jews is their problemJudaism is an ethnoreligion. This makes it impossible for Jews to assimilate to a host nation without losing their Jewishness. This is the problem with Jews. It's not an arbitrary boogeyman.
>>2416301t. wealthy scumbag trying to pretend like no one is at fault
you need to be beaten to death
>>2416301so trve bestie
now kill yourself
>>2416796i still dont see the connection.
>>2416320>>2416330i think its interesting that the ruling class as a tiny minority is blamed rather than the implicit majority of proletarians for capitalism.
>>2416836the hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss
now fuck off liberal
>>2414644>Make it about whiteness, and you inherit the full weight of Western history—every atrocity, every conquest, every empire built on bones.This is a leftwinger dilemma.
Rightwingers simply don't give a damn.
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