I don’t think people realize how dangerous the ability to generate photorealistic images and videos in instants is. If they combine this shit with AR/VR technology (spoiler: they will) it’s over, we are heading straight into Brave New World.
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You must be trollin
>>2416582>anon doesn't know what the Luddites were aboutit was the Real Movement of its time. read up on it
AI is literally the accelerationism you retards keep dreaming about. Why stop it now?
<have technology that makes full communism possible
<lets ban it!
Based, we need another Luigi Mangione to blow up a data center.
>>2491150Guy who thinks AI minion gore videos makes full communism possible
>>2416546Wasn't enforced very well on xiouhongshu last time I used it (they added face ID so I uninstalled)
>>2416527I agree, but the pandora box is open now.
There isn't a way to close it, so we have to make do with the Gen-AI future.
All the hype, and I still get hallucinated song/movie references and broken code for beginner tasks. What in the actual fuck are people seeing in these LLMs?
I mean, there's some good news that the bubble pop may be imminent: tons of top-tier companies reporting that AI isn't living up to the hype.
>>2426811Reading comprehension is so poor on imageboards that I refuse to believe it's anything but deliberate trolling, which is pretty based ngl.
Can Deepseek can produce more meaningful Marxist analysis on AI than a post with 161 replies? Findout with just one prompt! "Provide a Marxist historical materialist analysis on the contradictions of generative AI under late stage capitalism"
>>2490856>LLMs can be used for stylometry to identify and track anyone from how they write.that would be automating an already existing process, you can also use an LLM to generate a text for you (which will probably be identifiable as a generic machine-generated text, maybe with a model specification)
>Current machine learning models can be used for better tracking than before such as facial tracking and tracking by locomotion pattern. both already in use for a long time
>It can be used to flood the internet with generated images to push down photos or art the government or individuals do not want people to see. Bots can be used to better manipulate opinions by tailoring it to a specific group or individual. large for-profit corporations owning major websites generally don't want additional incoming traffic and taken up storage space they can't monetize in any way (such as advertisements and data collection), this is why i predict it will mostly result in captchas getting more annoying and even more websites refusing to work without javascript enabled or with "unusual" browser agents
Luddites should be mass graved without the option of re-education. Nothing more reactionary in this world than primitivism.
>>2499241you are more than welcome to mass grave me right now, no troika needed <3
>>2499114>What in the actual fuck are people seeing in these LLMs?i unironically suppose that the models' sycophancy could be their biggest selling point for most casual users
see the "keep 4o" movement, provoked by the model's change from GPT-4o's sycophancy and high emotion to GPT-5's "robotic" speak, and since now ChatGPT are rolling out
real-time automatic routing of models
https://leftypol.org/tech/res/30810.html#31407 to "protect sensitive groups", a routing from 4o to 5-thinking is seemingly provoked by benign words like "illegal", the function itself unable to be disabled by the end user.
an unfolding contradiction between a share of paying end-users and a physical hardware limitation on openAI's server side presumably unable to handle this much traffic with users of legacy (less efficient) models like 4o
i recommend keeping the spectacles on
>>2416636>Then wield it as a tool of political power.PMC socialists: "first Hitler (Netanyahu), then us!"
>>2490631>yeah dude, THAT is the most important thing happening right now, that is the BIG problemhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust>I can tell you are a white pig firstworlder, I can smell the decadence from a mile away.the Zionist AI targeted holocaust technocracy will come to to you too, smuglord
>>2426383>I still think it's goodwriting neoliberal fanfiction for a book you haven't read is so typical of these soulless Jeffrey Epstein adjacent tech guys who brag about not reading Shakespeare
https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2023/11/sam-bankman-fried-crypto-king-effective-altruism >>2490880>Why would people stop making art just because others are choosing to use AI?She doesn't know about $$$$$
>>2427341>there no longer has to be an intermediary between creator and audience, and no cost to the physical production process.lol everyone knows the AI boom thing revolves around materialist property ownership, like Nvidia computer chips and Amazon web servers etc. Typical for the PMC class, this pretentious socialist imageboard has the most coherent neoliberal idealist ideology seen since the '90s
>>2499269Ask the yanqui chatbot to find the missing ICE detainees
>>2416582That's not even an insult. The Luddites were right. They weren't against technology and industrialization. They were against the use of it to facilitate the creation of a permanent ruling class that would own all the machinery at the expense of workers.
People have always been able to fabricate false realities this is nothing new.
The danger isn't "AI" (I think this is a misnomer) but our misinterpretation of what it is and what it does. It's not technology that destroys us, it is our inability to understand our own technology that destroys us, like for example, when we misinterpret a minor technological achievement as a fundamental reality shift that changes everything forever and we invest a third of our global economy into it and then it fails to live up to our expectations and we burn 30 trillion dollars.
Ted Kaczynski was a confused insane little man, a sputtering mumbling weirdo who was scared of talking to women, and had this stupid arbitrary definition of technology where it's like, everything invented after 1900 equals technology, everything before 1900 was not technology. He was a fucking idiot.
>>2499232>result in captchas getting more annoyingnta, but I'm surprised how few (if any) of the tech bros have asked themselves why CAPTCHAs are still a thing if AI is so great. CAPTCHAs are meant to be a Turing test of sorts (literally in the name). If powerful AI were available, any spammer could use it to defeat CAPTCHAs, making CAPTCHAs useless, meaning we shouldn't need to be pestered with this shit anymore.
Or is this what the tech bros have their "AI vs. AGI" cop-out for?
>>2500747You can be highly educated and still be a fucking idiot. Just look at Andrew Schlafly.
>>2500758The guy was clearly a genius, regardless of his mental well-being.
>>2500797Eh, Ted seemed more like an idiot-savant than a genius, brilliant at one very specific thing, useless at everything else. It was likely he had undiagnosed autism, undiagnosed gender identity disorder, etc. in a time where there was practically zero support/resources/information about such things. He never had much chance of finding a place in the world, but the reason for his alienation wasn't "leftism" or technology or industrialization or any of the other dumb reasons he laid out. If he had been born in the 2000s maybe his life could have been different, maybe he would have become a woman and devoted his life to trans rights or neurodiversity activism or something instead of murdering people and withering away in a tiny concrete room.
My opinion on the subject is that the moronic fascist tech cultists and the luddites should be shoved into burning cybertrucks, and that these obviously not ai technologies should be taken back to the labs so their actual possible utilizations can be fully realized. We also need to start popping the shins of whoever tries to uses state banning all willy nilly, because you don’t use the apparatuses of the bourgeoisie like that you fucking dumbass. We also need to reeducate anyone who actually thought this shit was ai because this is just fucking embarrassing at this point.
>>2500747>>2500758you can be highly educated, AND high autism score, good and math and still be fucking retarded
>>2427003are you retarded? a peasantry can still exist in the margins of a country where even the capitalist mode of production is supreme. slavery can still exist in the margins. I mean, fuck, a huge chunk of the US economy is literally built on slavery. Did you learn to read last week??
AI is just gonna get used to subjugate people long enough the capitalists can realistically exterminate us.
Capitalists have no reason to keep people who aren't needed for their labor. The longer capitalism goes on, the more realistic a world without labor becomes.
>>2512706who isn't needed for their labour? if there is potential labour to be exploited, someone will exploit it. unemployment wont rise forever, with exception of economic crises it will be constrained by the need to exploit
I don't think AI is extending the lifespan of capitalism, if anything it seems to be accelerating its downfall. America has invested more than a third of its economy into a technology that is generating almost no real revenue and it is never going to bring the returns that have been promised. Best case scenario, it will fail at replacing jobs and the entire world will panic and abandon the idea and the bubble will burst and the economy will be in ruins. Worst case scenario, it will fail at replacing jobs, but companies will continue replacing jobs with it anyway and then everyone will be out of work and the AI will fail and industries will collapse and the bubble will burst and the economy will be in ruins.
True
>>2500824youre leaving out the part where he was MKULTRAed
>>2500834>these obviously not ai technologies should be taken back to the labs so their actual possible utilizations can be fully realizedyeah i regularly think this bc its clear there is some kind of massive potential in this stuff as far as just high level pattern matching at the least but it so obviously has nothing to do with artificial intelligence in the original meaning of the term and the morons pour money and labor down the drain trying to make it into the most convincing chatbot ever made
>need to reeducate anyone who actually thought this shit was ai because this is just fucking embarrassing at this point.yes
>>2514453Hmm, maybe you're right. The printing press did cause the 30 Years War which culminated into the Peace of Westphalia, which was the first step towards the bourgeousie idea of nation statery.
>>2514453AI absolutely can replace a shit ton of jobs. A large number of white collar jobs like IT, lawyers, general practitioners and blue collar stuff like driving, janitors, warehouse stacking, delivery, customer support etc will disappear. Some of them will be replaced by new bullshit jobs. Others will be perma unemployed. Probably some shitty half ass UBI will be implemented which will be just enough to eke out a pathetic existence for these unemployed.
>>2517195And then what happens after all those jobs are replaced and then some major unexpected change occurs in the world and none of the robots can do their jobs anymore because they're machines and cannot adapt to change?
>>2416591dumbass,it does now
I use AI to create references for me to practice my drawing, where do I stand in this debate?
>should be
idealism
>banned
begging the ruling class to outlaw their latest tools of oppression
More pointless drivel. You need to calm down. I don't know why a rational discussion about AI is impossible on this board.
>>2517482>>should be>idealism<wanting something to happen or thinking something should happen is idealismhow do you manage to live like this
>>2517215Collapse and barbarism that probably won't turn into socialism
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