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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Adulthood is realizing that Stalin was right about basically everything (except maybe pissing his pants when the Nazis invaded and giving bad military orders, but in the end the Fash chuds were defeated and you can't fault the man for not being both a political and military genius)

/leftypol/, suggest to me good reading material for red pilling people about /ourguy/ Stalin

Kulaks/Uyghas/Zionists fuck off
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>>2420265
googoogaga

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>>2420264
THE ICP HAS JUST CAPTURED WASHINGTON, BEIJING AND MOSCOW AT THE SAME TIME!

>>2420266
I accept your surrender anon, thanks for playing

>>2420287
I have nothing to surrender because I have nothing to win from arguing with anti-communists

>>2420290
You did surrender tho, and I accept it

>>2420190
What was Marx's take on Irish nationalism again?

>>2420191
Students aren't workers

>>2420473
That's right Stalin was in the clergy, then appointed Mensheviks post-purge

>>2420478
Read Sheila Fitzpatrick on the purge. Most of the cadres who moved up because of the purge were not involved with pre/early-revolutionary politics at all, they were younger people from worker and peasant families.

look at this thread for the past hour and tell me this isnt a raid and mindless attempt at shitflinging with no regard for post quality
it starts here >>2419884

>>2420486
>Noooo you're not allowed to criticize stalin on the love live laugh stalin thread!!! noooesss oh noooonooooo

>>2420489
don't bullshit with im le critiquing. you aren't even arguing in good faith. you're just driving the board quality down with intentionally bad posts

>>2420491
They're illiterate transhumanist zoomers from r/ultraleft. They have not read enough outside of vibesy Italian blogs to make good posts even if they want and they think the thought terminating little refrains and factoids they've memorized in place of that will blow people's minds.

>>2420495
MLoids try not to be /pol/, challenge level: impossible

>>2420498
2/3 of the microparties you idiots fetishize are "/pol/" on this issue.

>>2420115
>an Non-socialis, Non-Communist Natlib movement

>>2418768
Its so fucking weird i was thinking about Parvini like yesterday.

>>2419078
>"revolution in one nation"
it was called socialism in one country and it was not a goal in and of itself but a policy that arose out of geopolitical necessity after the failure of the german revolution to happen in 1919 and the isolation of the USSR in a capitalist world.

This is what the USSR had to deal with between WW1 and Stalin's death:

<WW1 leaves Russia less developed than it was before WW1

<there is 2 revolutions in 1 years
<bolsheviks take power
<civil war where western powers invade with a coalition of 14 countries
<country is now even more fucked
<need to do things like "war communism" and "NEP" just to stay afloat
<german revolution fails
<internal power struggle in the party all through the 20s
<rapid industrialization and purges through the 30s
<climate-caused famine in ukraine which gets called a man made famine by bourgeois propagandists
<purges of military officials just before nazi germany invades
<operation barbarossa almost reaches moscow and kills hundreds of thousands
<win WW2 but come out of it a lot weaker
<Western capitalists put up iron curtain but blame you for it
<capitalist ailgned countries get that juicy marshall plan money but you have to refuse it because it comes with strings attached (like privatization)

>>2418768
>Right wing ideologian made this
Leftcoms and trots btfo

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>>2420199
>>nooo! stalim distorted lemon who distorted engles who distorted mark!

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

It's interesting to hear Stalin's voice reconstructed in English using AI. The AI maintains the tenor and tone of his voice while changing the language. He was actually a pretty softspoken guy. In this speech he was explaining democratic centralism to Americans in the comintern.

>>2420226
this is a person doing obvious exaggerative satire of what he imagines leftoids look like and say

>>2420907
None of this goes against the point tho.


>>2420952
you dont have a point

>>2420941
Robert Conquest is an independent researcher from the "American" school of Soviet studies. After 90s, these guys came in and started faking archives en masse. It's easily noticeable by Americans not knowing how Russian language works or what were the secrecy protocols in USSR. Russian historians don't know either because secrecy protocols are secret themselves, and they don't have clearance. That's why, btw, high-level fakes on USSR came in directly from CPSU's Central Committee (in case of Yakovlev, for example) or from Russia's President Office

Not marching on paris and athens doomed the movement

>>2421028
>>2421028
Thank u for your expert opinion

>>2420969
Thank you Koba

>>2421031
Maybe he should have annexed china too and merged the two parties

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itt

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>>2421042
world of baitcraft

>>2421028
>they should have just done X Y Z despite morale, supply lines, plans, provisions
Alt history HOI4 brain idealism

>>2420947
Feels like he should have more of an accent. He spoke russian with a thick Georgian accent apparently, so it'd be more appropriate if the English version also sounded less standardized

>>2421027
Alexander Yakovlev was a total bleeding heart libfag tho. You are still right, I'm just saying the people of perestroika were the prime example of unnatural selection where the fags who said the right words were considered righteous communists as opposed to those who had their own opinions.

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lel

>>2419945
The Frankfurt School was formed by former MLoids, stay mad, lib

>>2420915
>MLoids explaining why the USSR couldn’t be socialist so they can explain why it was socialist
When my mind is so open my brain is leaking out of my ears

>>2425563
Stalin above, are we doing this again?
In scientific socialism, the socialism of the kind you are using as a definitional standard is known to be theoretically impossible without a one world government and, therefore, is thus an aspirational term when applied to People's Republics and other Proletarian Dictatorships
Like even trots know this one because despite their deviation they are still communists
Why don't you know the basics of the science you are critiquing?

>>2425563
stfu retard

>>2425559
>former
i agree, now they are Utopian liberal marxists, their entire theory is anti-ML(Communist)
Stay mad liberal.

>>2425563
Idealism of the highest decree is to ignore material conditions for ideological standards unmet for real material motives.

>>2420915
So it was cope. Reverted to just industrialise and move people from the countryside to the cities. Ok.

>>2425602
you are an idealist retard

>>2425577
>Come on in scientific socialism we know by materialist analysis the USSR fundamentally could not fulfill the requirements to achieve a socialist society, therefore we need to call their failure socialism firstly based on the beliefs and desires of its founders, secondly because it makes us feel good, third because we don’t want to hurt the feelings of hypothetical people from other countries
We’re in agreement aside from the idealism part where states = their ideals
>>2425594
No, the highest of idealisms is to look at the actual material life of a society and then determining its nature on the basis of its professed ideals, which is exactly what MLs do

MLs are a perfect example of why Marxism is and must be fundamentally opposed to ideology, since only ideology can lead a person to explain why a society could not achieve socialism to explain why it was an admirable example of socialism to be revered and “followed”

>>2425609
Idealism is when you can’t contort your mind to explain why the NSDAP isn’t an admirable example of socialist fraternity in the alternate history where it never invaded the USSR

>Wow have you ever considered the Confederate States of America is an admirable example of AES?

>>2425589
Their entire theory is built around the assumption that Marxism-Leninism (actually existing national socialism) is the living embodiment of communism and moving from there

>>2425622
Theories are often disproved by applied science so I have high hopes for the People's Republic of China, and their win win, harmonise and drag forward the world economy; this is within wriggle room of possibility of the theory even, high hopes here

Their rapidly increasing technological advantage, and the raising of 700 million out of absolute poverty also proves scientific socialism
Then we can continue on with the high cultural development and active and successful protest culture of the Chinese people, where unlike in bourgeois dictatorships the will of the people is not ignored
What are your hopes, or fears if you have no hope?

>>2425627
>Idealism is when I make up a fantasy story in my head which I then overlay on top of actual reality
Yes it is and you're also still retarded

>>2425622
You wouldn't even know what Marxism is if it wasn't for the Bolsheviks faggot


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