Human trafficking is not a conspiracy. And that's basically what Epstein was doing. Yet it is assigned "special significance", why? Why is human trafficking only in people's minds when Epstein does it? That's exactly the problem. We can prosecute those involved in the Epstein case all we want, it will not make human trafficking disappear, so long as capitalism exists. But people will act as if the problem has been "solved" and go back to not paying attention to the social ill at large.
Reading about anthropological studies of religion, I cannot help but think to myself how bafflingly retarded "Illuminati demon magic" type conspiracies are. Religion, that is human organization, CANNOT be a secret conspiracy, fundamentally, there is ALWAYS some part that is "public-facing". Even if it's just simply public knowledge of the existence of the "brotherhood". And for occultism in particular, if people like Aleister Crowley had knowledge of "magic", they sure as hell weren't good at hiding it, considering they've literally written books for the public about it. It is doubly retarded when you realize many people believing in the "Illuminati demon magic" horseshit consider themselves Christians, which is theologically INCOMPATIBLE with the existence of such things. And furthermore the Catholic Church has historically been very aggressive in dealing with heresy (literally murdering groups for alleged heresy), so it would be very funny and totally believable that suddenly a new heresy springs out of vacuum, and the Pope is like "yeah that's cool I'm going to say absolutely nothing about it".
I swear, the fuel for the rightoid misdirection has to end.
>>2419504Are you sincerely retarded enough to think the entire ruling class are pedophiles. Because that would be the precondition in actually having use of this "rally" you speak of (ending capitalism by conveniently targeting the entire ruling class who are all conveniently pedophiles).
>>2419508Yeah man Epstein invented human trafficking, it's not like you can go to some poor country and have sex with some underage prostitute for an "affordable" $Freedom price tag or anything.
Meanwhile
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/index.html>An estimated 10% to 20% of Mauritania’s 3.4 million people are enslaved — in “real slavery,” according to the United Nations’ special rapporteur on contemporary forms of slavery, Gulnara Shahinian.Granted, this is from 2012, but I don't have any reason to think the situation has changed.
>>2419500>We can prosecute those involved in the Epstein case all we want, it will not make human trafficking disappear, so long as capitalism exists. But people will act as if the problem has been "solved" and go back to not paying attention to the social ill at large … Reading about anthropological studies of religion, I cannot help but think to myself how bafflingly retarded "Illuminati demon magic" type conspiracies are. Yes. Think of it in terms of an apocalyptic Abrahamic religious narrative.
There is only one God and it can't be wrong, can't lose, only win. Everything is some kind of simple binary opposition (damned / salvation), and as long as you convert to the eternal and universal essence / idea, all the complicated problems with our corrupt world will be eliminated in an act of divine judgement. There's no other way out except than through "the grace of God." This never happens though. Early Christians expected Jesus to return in their lifetimes, but he didn't. So they went to church to prayed for him to return eventually. The End Times are always just around the corner but never arrive – and it can never arrive – so the believers pick up new symbols and events because the narrative cannot be wrong.
So the ideological factor when translated to politics is that Trump came out as people's "savior." But it's impossible for him to live up to that because the narrative is false. He inevitably fails, but people return to the original theory. The narrative is self-contradictory because he was supposed to expose the pedophile elites and the reason he isn't is because he was corrupted by Epstein even though he was supposed to release the Epstein files but can't because his best friend was Jeffrey Epstein…
The other plot twist is that Epstein was Jewish (a Judas figure), and the Jews in the Christian narrative betrayed Jesus Christ to the Romans. Jesus is also a Jew and the messiah but was rejected by the (bad) Jewish religious elite. This sets the groundwork for seeing Jews as enemies within the society (Satan's agents on earth, while the "red pill" exposes the Jewish plot). But again, there's a plot twist because "Trump"
is also a "Jew." The "good" Jew. His disciples are "Jews." His "teachings" are rooted in the Jewish tradition (money). And this is all part of God's plan in a perpetual emotional machine.
Just trust the plan. Trust in a Jewish savior to defeat the imagined Jewish enemy … the perpetual betrayers and orchestrators of hidden control! This is essentially a mental virus brought by Christianity. But there is never any closure. There is no mercy. No grace. The narrative promises can
never be fulfilled because the believers would suffer narrative collapse and have to go on to do something else. The promised revelation will never actually arrive. It's ALWAYS a let down. The cabal will not be exposed. The elites will never be overthrown. The patriots will not awaken.
But trust the plan.
>>2419500>Human trafficking is not a conspiracymeanwhile:
<"PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI: Ghislaine Maxwell respectfully petitions to review the judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.<"STATEMENT OF THE CASE: Despite the existence of a non-rosecution agreement promising in plain language that the United States would not prosecute any co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein, the United States in fact prosecuted Ghislaine Maxwell as a co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein>people will act as if the problem has been "solved" and go back to not paying attention to the social ill at largesocial ills, you know, the thing! (doesn't elaborate)
>occultism, people like Aleister Crowley <The Babalon Working was a series of magic ceremonies performed from January to March 1946 by author, pioneer rocket-fuel scientist and occultist Jack Parsons and Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.<This ritual was essentially designed to manifest an individual incarnation of Babalon. The rituals performed drew largely upon sex magic described by English author and occult teacher Aleister Crowley. Crowley was in correspondence with Parsons during the course of the Babalon Working, and warned Parsons of his potential overreactions to the magic he was performing, while simultaneously deriding Parsons' work to others. https://www.occult.live/index.php/Babalon_Workingstay woke about the satanic nature of the nuclear bomb, watch Twin Peaks for more info (which is also a show about bourgeoisie working with PMC to sex traffick teens across borders)
>>2419512>it's not like you can go to some poor country and have sex<"the labor aristocracy are all petite Jeffrey Epsteins" read Settlers lol
Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets (including Trump himself).
"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.
Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent, but this remains unconfirmed.
Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations, though no hard evidence supports this. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."
A common mistake in left discourse is to talk about “the bourgeoisie” as if it were a shapeless cloud floating above society, producing exploitation without visible machinery or human agency. This is politically lazy, theoretically idealist, and fundamentally anti-Marxist. Marx understood class as a real, structured formation, with identifiable fractions, alliances, and contradictions. Without tracing those internal structures, our politics is reduced to moral outrage and protest ritual, not strategy.
C. Wright Mills helped break through the fog with his power elite concept: corporate, political, and military leaders form a self-reinforcing oligarchy through shared institutions, elite universities, think tanks, corporate boards, and military command networks. Aaron Good, in American Exception, deepens this by showing how the U.S. state is best understood as tripartite:
The Public State, the visible, elected layer of governance.
The Deep State, the permanent security, intelligence, and covert-ops apparatus.
The Duopoly System, the bipartisan elite party structure that manages dissent and ensures policy continuity for ruling-class interests.
Good argues that the U.S. ruling order operates within a framework of “exceptionism”, the schmittian concept that sovereignity lies in the state of legal exception a state acts upon for its self-preservation and “higher immorality” a shared elite ethos that systemic criminality is acceptable when it benefits the class as a whole. This is not moral corruption in the abstract; it is a structural feature of bourgeois power, binding together factions that otherwise compete.
Marx in The Eighteenth Brumaire observed how the haute bourgeoisie could weaponize the lumpenproletariat as street muscle, a reactionary shock force against workers. Good’s work shows how this practice has been modernized and globalized: the U.S. deep state has repeatedly partnered with criminalized intermediaries, foreign mercenaries, paramilitaries, gangs, to advance imperial interests. This is part of what Good calls elite illegalism: the routine use of illicit means by elite actors, shielded from accountability, to maintain and expand power.
This is not just an occasional moral lapse. It is a mode of governance. CIA-linked drug networks in Southeast Asia’s Golden Triangle, heroin production under U.S.-aligned mujahideen in Afghanistan, Contra cocaine trafficking in Central America, Balkan heroin routes under NATO protection, even tolerated human trafficking networks, these are not “rogue” episodes. They are deliberate strategies that:
Provide off-the-books funding for covert ops.
Reward loyal intermediaries.
Destabilize or weaken target societies.
Maintain plausible deniability for the public state.
The recent public release of parts of the Epstein list is a striking example of how elite illegalism operates in the realm of social control. Epstein’s network, intersecting finance, intelligence, and politics, functioned not merely as a personal vice operation but as a potential leverage system for elements within the haute bourgeoisie and intelligence services. The mingling of billionaires, senior politicians, royalty, and corporate executives in a criminal network of trafficking and abuse underscores Good’s point: the boundaries between the “respectable” public elite and the covert criminal underworld are porous by design. Such scandals are rarely prosecuted to the top because they are structurally protected, serving both as blackmail tools and as demonstrations of elite impunity.
Seen through the Mills–Good framework, Epstein’s operation bridged all three layers of the tripartite state. It touched the public state through politicians and regulators who were compromised or protected him. It connected to the deep state through ties to intelligence-linked figures and agencies that allegedly facilitated his travel, funding, and immunity. And it intersected with the duopoly system via bipartisan political patrons and donors. In this way, the scandal illustrates that elite illegalism is not a peripheral feature of the ruling class, it is one of the hidden ligaments binding together its different organs of power.
Critically, this line of analysis is not a drift into right-wing conspiracism. The reactionary fringe often hijacks these scandals to promote antisemitic tropes, nationalist myths, or culture-war diversions. A Marxist analysis rejects such mystifications. We focus instead on the material relations, the fusion of capital accumulation, state power, and covert criminal networks, that give these scandals their systemic function. This is not about chasing lurid personalities; it is about exposing how capitalism at its imperial core integrates legal governance and organized crime into a unified class project.
By treating the bourgeoisie as a cloud, we erase the material integration between the “legal” and “illegal” sides of imperial capitalism. We miss how the haute bourgeoisie works through specific nodes: finance capital, energy conglomerates, arms manufacturers, private intelligence contractors, and transnational banks that launder illicit proceeds.
Good’s thesis reminds us: the U.S. ruling class is not simply a national capitalist elite. It is an imperial bloc that fuses state power, covert networks, and transnational capital into a single operational system. Within this bloc, bourgeois factions compete for policy dominance but share the deep-state machinery that protects the whole class. Understanding these internal divisions, and their shared illegalism, is not an academic luxury. It is the only way to identify contradictions.
>>2433749>Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.Some say GM got involved with JE - both sentimentally and pedophilically/pimpically - because her father BM was already in touch with JE, chiefly because he required his expertise in financial shenanigans at the highest level. It is speculated that BM may have required JE's services in the late 1980s, when his fraudulent activities were going out of control but at the same time he was trying to expand his media empire even more and he even made an attempt to get a foothold in the American media landscape. He was mad at Rupert Murdoch, who had bought Fox in America in the 80s, while he was still a nobody on the other side of the Atlantic. That said, all the hanky panky BM and some of his other sons did costed the Mirror Group's employees their private pension plans and the Bri'ish government had to step in try to do something. BM evaded HM's justice, because he drowned in the ocean right in the days the scandal was emerging. A few years later, two of his sons were acquitted at a phony trial for their financial frauds.
Quite interestingly, BM had a solemn funeral in Jerusalem at the expense of the state of israhell where basically all current and past presidents, prime ministers and espionage agency leaders were present. One of them explicitly said during the eulogy that BM had done so much for them and they were all incredibly grateful to him, but unfortunately all those things he did had to be kept secret way beyond the entire lives of all those present for reasons of national security. In fact many of the old zionazi sods present that day have already kicked the bucket themselves, but we are still in the dark about Cap'n Bob's accomplishments in the service of israhell.
>>2433767>muh lumpenWrong.
First thing first, you are using lumpen as a placeholder for the n-word - our dark-skinned brothers and sisters - or maybe Paki - if you are the anon infesting the Bri'ish thread.
Second, nowadays many criminals are not in a social and economic status lower than of those that only have their work as a source of income, but they are indeed above them, and therefore fully capitalist in and of themselves. It's just that those pesky laws made their core business illegal, but in truth they now represent an ever growing percentage of the overall economy, especially after previously industrialised countries have deindustrialised and neoliberalised in earnest.
There are of course "soldiers" and "muscles" coming from the lowest of the lower orders of society, but they really are the last and most expendable individuals in the criminal system.
>>2433773The workers didn't get what they was originally entitled to, but the government was pressured and compelled to at least disburse that money. Btw, what's further comical is that a conservative government had to do that and Mrs Thatcher had been out of office just for a year or two at that point. A private system completely exposed to the mercuriality of the markets - and the criminality of those managing the money - resulted in a spectacular failure when everyone was preaching that neoliberalism had won and you couldn't get back even a slice of the old post-war consensus welfare state.
>>2433789I'm not saying he's right. I'm saying he seems fixated with "lumpen" while he doesn't actually mean lumpen.
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