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>>2429647RED ALERT
The poo poo pee pee (fucking magnets) party has declared a fatwa to execute every current head of state
IMPORTANT COMMUNIQUE
>>2429813If Givi were alive he'd be astonished at the scale of this war and the pace of global change it unleashed
The separatists were the first to take the conservative approach to war. The rapid spread of Russian spring then its crushing led to the ATO, which saw them retreat all the way to Donetsk
Whether LDNR or RF, the first concern is state stability given an imperialist onslaught.
>>2429852Who believes any of the cuck or leftcom posters lol
It's transparently about pretending Russia is losing and is a big bad imperialist simultaneously, keeping the 2022 myth alive
>>2429857No I don't think you understand, he went on a full rant about how he *was* pro-Russian but the "cuckoldry of the cuck" had lead him down this path of being aggressively anti-Russian, now he is claiming that Givi would join Azov for the same reasons he's wasting his time blowing a jugular about FSB glowies?
I don't think spurdo is a leftcom or, strictly, a nafoid. Something worse.
>>2429863I mean it's flat out projection, isn't it? Givi who was fighting against Azov well before Russia officially got involved, would suddenly switch sides because of "The Cuck". Spurdo claims himself to have been pro-Russian but no longer because of "The Cuck".
>>2429866>PsychoanalysingYou have a particular fear of people doing that? You've mentioned it previously.
>a jokeOne that just rhymes with an opinion you've expressed while being ostensibly dead serious.
>>2429871I observed the entirety of 2014 at the time. You are simply wrong.
Also, Givi joined the separatists because he was from Donbass.
>>2429886Perhaps they learned it from the Ukrainians in Kursk.
>They are lead by a drone through a specified path, the drone ensuring their security AND CAMOUFLAGEYes because in this conflict the one thing no one is looking for are drones
>>2429918I was doing you a favour, because the following rambling deflection looks worse.
Also how do you know the nationality of intbrig's ex but not my actual nationality by this point?
I don't usually browse this thread, but I've read an interesting article by Boris Kagarlitsky yesterday theorizing that since Trump is willing to do diplomacy with Putin, there is now a division between 'anti-imperialists' and 'trad-conservatives' in Russia.
In 2022 before the war and Western sanctions, 35% of Russian exports were bought by the EU, which was the double of what Russia exported to China. Russia was the third biggest trade partner of the EU after the US and China. The UK, Germany and France owned 33 billions of dollars worth of assets in Russia in 2018. Many bourgeois Russian families used to live in London, Paris and the French Riviera.
The war obviously changed all of that, prompting the Russian government to strengthen ties with China. Russians liberals thought at first the sanctions would discourage Russian capitalists to support the war, but after a bit of hesitation, they decided to say "fuck it" and found a way out to continue doing business elsewhere.
Two tendencies emerged as a justification for the war:
- The 'anti-imperialist' one, which you are probably familiar with here, saying that Russia should recenter its partnerships toward BRICS to weaken the West and NATO and allow other weaker countries to develop, etc.
- The Duginist 'trad-conservative', who justify the war as an attack against globalist degeneracy, allowing Russia to carve its own trad Orthodox path independent from the geopolitical domination of the US
These two tendencies used to coexist peacefully when Biden was POTUS, but Trump changed the game.
Now, people like Dugin think they should perhaps come to an agreement with Trump as long as Russia gets what it wants from the war — annexation of the territories they control in Eastern Ukraine and a guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO, understandably — and be careful about getting too close with China, because China represents some kind of new globalism replacing the former US-lead globalism. Russia should carve its own path and play every world power to become a redpilled Orthodox trad society again or something.
The 'anti-imperialists' of course, think this would be an act of treason to make amends with the West and that Russia shouldn't look back, even if Russian capitalists had lucrative deals with the EU. They believe Russia should fully align with China in order to be a powerful world player in a glorious age of multipolarity, whatever, you know the drill.
I don't have any particular conclusion to provide, but I wonder how this is going to play out after Friday, and I was wondering what you think about this particular take too.
>>2429937lol
lmao
Every day, I wake up knowing idealism is objectively false. That no "controlling the narrative" means fucking anything. That "cucktin" posters are subhuman wastes of space. That NAFO seethe on Twitter serves nothing but a malicious sense of glee.
>>2429994You would be surprised how quite a lot of countries either love the US, like Saudi Arabia, Albania and Georgia, or don't care about the US as long as they don't try to start shit and just do business deals with them, like Vietnam, because yes, Vietnam hates China infinitely more than the US despite Vietnam and China being both nominally communist, because while Vietnam won the war against the US and joke about it, there are still existing tensions regarding claims over the Spartly Islands among other things and a long history of Vietnam being a vassal state of China for centuries.
I don't have a good opinion of the US myself, but it's important to understand you are part of a very niche political community with peculiar geopolitical opinions, not everyone out there sees the US as the Great Satan, it's mostly Russia and China, poor Arab countries who hate Israel, countries who got destabilized like Libya, and some parts of South America, the rest has other enemies to hate.
>>2429966>The Duginist 'trad-conservative', who justify the war as an attack against globalist degeneracy, allowing Russia to carve its own trad Orthodox path independent from the geopolitical domination of the USYeah that's not happening. This is actual Russian culture, it's the shadow of the West, not whatever Dugin is on about.
>Now, people like Dugin think they should perhaps come to an agreement with Trump as long as Russia gets what it wants from the war … The 'anti-imperialists' of course, think this would be an act of treason This stuff about returning to the village commune and being Orthodox and not being modern is an aesthetic fantasy that is impossible to realize. It's ideological nostalgia for a made-up fantasy version of the Middle Ages. This appeals to certain people for whatever reason, but I figure that Dugin will follow the Kremlin's policy, because he's a glowie who works for them, and his job is decorate that policy in a way that appeals to those people, so they will support Russia. But he's not strictly necessary and his ideas are not a structural element of Russian policy.
>>2430094I leave geopolitical dickswinging for my vidya. That's why real life offers always
sound reasonable, contain token concessions, but are actually unacceptable to anybody.
Read it all again, and it's basically a demand for their surrender. Cucking Europeans was a nice touch.
>>2430165it's not fine. but it seems like they're not offering that. see the post just above that one. apparently they may have floated the idea of sumy, dnipro and kharkov. those aren't the four regions russia has claimed, so it makes more sense to offer that up if there's going to be something offered. But kiev and europe will reject any concessions on their side so it doesn't really matter what putin offers trump. it's just optics.
probably the only thing that might come of this is some bilateral things with us-russia other than ukraine, and the possibility that if putin and trump agree on something and ukraine/europe reject then maybe trump will finally decide that they're the problem, cut them off and wash his hands of ukraine.
nothing coming of it is the most likely.
>>2430174>apparently they may have floated the idea of sumy, dnipro and kharkov. those aren't the four regions russia has claimed, so it makes more sense to offer that up if there's going to be something offered.I agree, provided that Russia actually gets something tangible immediately and not some IOU that Russia carries in its back pocket only to be fooled yet again a la the 2022 Kharkov debacle. So before they start exiting Kharkov, there'd better be ground and satellite confirmation of the AFU leaving the other four oblasts, and circumstances should be such that the difficulty for Ukraine in restarting operations in the four oblasts is at least as high as that for Russia in restarting operations in Kharkov if necessary.
>the possibility that if putin and trump agree on something and ukraine/europe reject then maybe trump will finally decide that they're the problem, cut them off and wash his hands of ukraine. This is why I don't mind if the offer is merely rhetorical, as a way to show that Zelensky won't even give up the two Donbas oblasts. The objective, of course, isn't to bring America to Russia's side, which is impossible, but to force America to eliminate the Zelensky regime if it doesn't want Russia ending up with even more of Ukraine.
>>2430203i've seen some pro-russians talking about this lately. realistically why would russia want to do it though? seems like it would be a pain in the ass to try to govern there, would create more tension with eu/nato, and what do they really gain?
seems like a lot of headache for little return.
>>2430216Holy shit, by the law of funny outcomes this *must* happen.
Imagine Trump doing the
perp Luigi walk with Putin as the cringiest liberals hoot on the sides holding "Putler" and "Vlademort" signs, LOTR orc costumes mixed with "vatnik" cartoons and nearly centennial cold war red scare paraphernalia.
Then Trump sending Putin to the EU to that bullshit made up court they are building up specifically for Russia. All while AgentZ walks along elated, ear to ear smiling but utterly confused on the inside. Before stepping into a CIA bullet that will be blamed on Russia.
And finally some even greater cuck emerging from the RF ruling class to take Putin's place and compromise literally everythgin in exchange for their own security in the new government.
>>2430200>who the fuck cares if it's internationally pinky-promise recognized.Well the question is
<What can the RF do during "peacetime" to enforce their side of any deal?If all the RF can do to enforce the peacetime deals is threaten to end the peacetime… well then NATO just got a forever proxy drain they can back with sanctions.
>>2430229The left part of the page is just purposeful ignorance of reality. If you are a communist, you clearly had the time to read up on US global strategy or you heard a lot about it when studying other topics at the very least. And of course, communists always see the local struggle as part of the global struggle, as influencing other local struggles.
To ignore the fact that the goal for Ukraine's western backers has always been regime change in Russia through putting continuous pressure on it is silly. It would be hard to miss the constant proclamations to that effect if you read any news about the conflict at all. And at this point we know what is in store for those who turn to US: constant bullying, escalating austerity, anticommunism, unstoppable decrease in economic power and quality of life in favor of pumping that US stock.
Men under 22 can leave Ukraine – Zelensky>Kiev had barred all men aged between 18 and 60 from traveling abroad as part of martial law and its mobilization campaign<The Ukrainian leader announced the change in a Telegram post on Tuesday, saying it would be a “positive” development that would allow “many young Ukrainians to maintain ties” with their homeland and potentially return to Ukraine for study.https://swentr.site/russia/622817-men-22-leave-ukraine-zelensky/This actually strikes me as more indicative of something big about to happen for Ukraine than the meeting, on the basis that NATO figures have all been demanding that Kiev reduce mobilisation age to 18 and that more weapon supplies are pointless with more troops to use them, which Kiev refused and haven't budged on at all, but nevertheless wouldn't let them leave.
Now all of a sudden that's changing, everyone under 22 can leave, Kiev can't be forced to mobilise 18-22 yr olds if they're no longer in country. But why release them now? What catastrophic thing is about to happen that would have denied Kiev a choice over whether they mobilise 18-22 yr olds?
>>2430212>>2430203I would say that only thing holding EU and Nato together now is political inertia and that people lack vision for any alternative. It will only get worse as things progress. If it's more likely than not that both or even one of those institutions won't exist in 10 years of time then why would Russia bother. Geopolitically Baltics only exist to annoy anyway.
Disclaimer: Deep down I would kinda want that though. Not proud of thinking so, but Kaija Kallas and many others made me so.
>>2430496This just proves that the war is coming to an end
Also if i can gauge Zele's mind i think the calculation is that Ukrainian economy is going to be in the shitter the moment the West cuts off all the aid that has been freely given during the current war.
You do not want to have a bulge of young men trapped in the country during such a volatile time
Also there is the possibility of Philippino maxxing (i.e sending migrants abroad so they can send the home country foreign currency) which Ukraine will really, really need to pay all those debts to the US
>>2430475reddit brained understanding of warfare in a contextless vacuum. A constantly cited reason for NATO unwillingness to commit further recourses to Ukraine is depletion of stock necessary for a flashpoint with China. Furthermore the constant intra-NATO dialogue over industrial expansion is empirical admission that the current industrial-logistic base cannot sustain combat effectiveness in near-peer conflicts versus low-intensity COIN. And these are purely material constraints ignoring the lack of political capital necessary for such a mobilization.
In this hypothetical scenario where, after 4 years of failure to politically cohere a counter-mobilization, NATO magically gets its shit together and mobilize a full air campaign. They place themselves in a lose-lose where the logistical strain, depletion of stock and inevitable loss of airframes would leave the pacific naked. or insufficient airframes are committed to blunt Russian intitative. If NATO believed they could do both they already would've in their own competitive self interest. Hence why they haven't and wouldn't do it because contrary to NAFO's singular fixation, Ukraine is but one disposable frontier of global empire that must be policed in its entirety.
>>2430496>But why release them now?like others said, probably instability. Zelensky has declined in approval over the years and this may be especially so among youth
ive never actually met a young ukrainian who likes zelensky, and ive met dozens now. that churchill thing is fake as hell
>>2430543De-enlistment and post-war expenditures for Ukrainian military will eat through their GDP.
Raises questions about if and when they suspend martial law
>>2430619My brain just grew another wrinkle, this idea that under 22 year old men can now leave naturally depends on whether they can find a country that will host them, but I recall seeing reports semi-recently in British media that Ukrainians are having their asylum status revoked and new asylum seekers are being refused. If that is at all the case in Poland, Germany, France, Czech Republic, etc then even if an 18 year old Ukrainian male can leave, leave to go where?
Nevertheless, in theory allowing them leave counters some negative PR I’ve noticed around for Ukraine concerning men being arrested for fleeing the country, drowning or even being shot. So this Telegram decree that no no they can leave without any danger to them, is meaningless in any practical sense if they just get sent straight back by their EU border of choice.
>>2430634That, yeah
People that believe they have some amount of safety also notoriously easier to grab than someone that knows he needs to get the fuck out of dodge.
I am unsure of the specifics, but here's how it may go down anyway
So after Z burns through the olds (60+), where is there left to turn?
Oh sorry we have to burn the future too now in the name of democracy.
So what is the next step of your master plan?
He is really just burning his country with everyone in it.
>>2430286>What? This scenario would lead to war with NATO and russian forces completely trashed.At this point it's doubtful that nato could even make it there.
>Despite organisational reform and increased investment in relevant capabilities, NATO (in Europe especially) still faces critical vulnerabilities in its rear areas across domains. For example, in the maritime domain, strategic sealift capacity, merchant marine reserves and naval escort capabilities have largely atrophied.
>In any potential conflict with Russia, European NATO’s supply lines would face constant attack, limiting the alliance’s ability for rapid reinforcement and sustainment of forces engaged along the front line. Unlike during the Cold War, NATO no longer maintains large forward-deployed formations; ‘enhanced forward presence’ deployments are all brigade sized or smaller.
>Broadly speaking, European NATO’s logistics face four different challenges, these being limited infrastructure; limited lift capacity; geographic chokepoints; and limited defences.
>Spurred on, in no small part, by the private sector focus on ‘just in time’ supply chains, and with the prospect of the Soviet threat gone, both the civil and military infrastructure which is needed to move NATO forces has concentrated over time into a smaller number of larger hubs. Mass logistics require larger vessels and deepwater ports, with few locations capable of handling the vessels in use. Airlift capacity is also a vital capability, but cannot move mass at the same scale (for example, it required 73 C-17 Globemaster loads to move a single Patriot Battalion).
>This is by no means limited to port infrastructure. Across the alliance, other measures show stark reductions in the availability of militarily useful infrastructure, matched by a similarly stark drop-off in joint funding for infrastructure development. In 1981, annual joint funding was the equivalent of almost £3 billion today (between 1951 and 1981, this funded the construction of 220 airfields among myriad other projects), whereas the Security Investment Programme ceiling for 2025 is £1.4 billion – a smaller pot for a much larger alliance.
>A related factor is the limited lift capacity available to European militaries. Numbers have been pared back – in the air, at sea and on land – to concerningly low levels where high-tempo operational attrition would soon become a limiting factor, let alone combat attrition. Losses while attempting to reinforce front lines would be sorely felt, and would take time to replace. The numbers of logistical vehicles which could be lost taking supplies the final few miles also needs to be considered; while armoured fighting vehicle losses steal most of the limelight, Ukraine and Russia have both lost several thousand transport vehicles.
>The ‘logistics base’ should be strengthened to ensure greater depth in infrastructure, capacity and resilience, requiring close engagement with commercial partners to support robust end-to-end supply chains. For example, despite being vital, the role of national shipping in military logistics and national security is often overlooked, and lacks adequate incentives. The ability to mobilise civil platforms in a supporting role was long relied on to boost capacity in times of need, but here too, the story is one of deterioration. Between 2009 and 2023, the number of militarily useful British-flagged vessels decreased by 41% from 841 to 495. This trend is mirrored across European NATO, which has seen a steady decline in national merchant fleets and seafarers.And it goes on. I don't have the article at hand, but I read about another nato exercise earlier this year or the last, where they tried to move several brigades from Antwerp to Krakow and less than 10% arrived on time and fully equipped. This article talks about what a logistical clusterfuck the baltics are:
https://mwi.westpoint.edu/baltic-trainspotting-railways-natos-logistics-problem-northeastern-europe/ >>2431341>Alaskan resourcesRussia is already resource rich
>Rare earths in eastern Ukrainewhich Russia already controls
>lift some sanctionsah sure whatevs
Blump has no cards. gonna be brutal. weekend tantrum incoming
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/12/ukraine-russia-donbas-springboard-for-war-zelenskyy
>Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said Ukraine could not agree to a Russian proposal to give up more of his country’s territory in exchange for a ceasefire because Moscow would use what it gained as a springboard to start a future war.
>The Ukrainian president said he did not believe that Donald Trump supported Russia’s demands, and he expressed hope the US leader would act as an honest mediator when he meets Vladimir Putin in Alaska on Friday.
>He added there was no sign that Russia was preparing to implement a ceasefire, as reports emerged that small sabotage groups had pierced Ukrainian defences in the eastern Donbas, advancing about six miles in three days. Zelenskyy also warned that Russia was planning new offensives on three parts of the frontline.…
>We will not leave Donbas. We cannot do it,” Zelenskyy said. “For Russians, Donbas is a springboard for a future new offensive.” The region demanded by Russia was too strategically important to give up, he said, because it was a heavily fortified area that protected Ukraine’s central cities.
>“I have heard nothing – not a single proposal – that would guarantee that a new war will not start tomorrow and that Putin will not try to occupy at least Dnipro, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv” once Russia had gained all of Donbas, Zelenskyy said.
>Ukraine’s leader said he wanted Putin instead to agree to a ceasefire on the current frontlines and for both sides to return all prisoners of war and missing children, before any discussion about territory and the future security of the country. “Any question of territory cannot be separated from security guarantees,” he said.And the hard cope:
>The Institute for the Study of War said Russian “sabotage and reconnaissance groups” had infiltrated Ukrainian-held territory near Dobropillya, a key supply point in the west of the Donetsk region.
>“It is premature to call the Russian advances in the Dobropillya area an operational-level breakthrough,” the ISW said on Monday night. It said the invaders would now try to turn “tactical advances” into something more significant.
>Russia is taking heavy casualties of about 1,000 a day, with 500 killed and 500 wounded on Monday, Zelenskyy said, as it relies heavily on infantry assaults to break Kyiv’s defensive lines.
>Zelenskyy said Ukraine’s casualties on the same day were much smaller – a total of 340 – “18 killed and 243 wounded, with 79 missing in action”. But in the past when Moscow’s forces have broken through, Ukraine has frequently proved unable to push them back. >>2431381Trump has already folded though
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/08/putin-trump-summit-press-and-collective-west-political-hysteria-escalates-as-russia-makes-large-significant-advance-near-povrosk.html
>Even if Trump had harbored the fantasy of a mano-a-mano with Putin that might allow him to claim some sort of progress in extricating the US from its Ukraine quagmire, Trump went into full TACO mode. From the Washington Post in White House sharply lowers expectations for Trump-Putin summit:
<President Donald Trump expects his encounter with Russian President Vladimir Putin this week to be a “listening exercise,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Tuesday, sharply downplaying the possibility that a deal to end the war in Ukraine could be imminent despite a warning from the president last week that Kyiv needed to “get ready to sign something.”
>“Listening exercise”? As if Putin has not been exhaustively explicit in his many long speeches and press conferences?Listening and learning 😌
>>2430475>unironically quoting the losses of ukraine presented by the ukraine.ah, yes, the infamous list of "we defeated RuZZia twice in a week". Oldfags will remember that they decreased the list of Russian army equipment destroyed by them in the first months, because Russia did necromancy self-taught by Juche-DPRK necromancy.
because you know, they never have counted deep-faked "Russian losses".
ghost of kiev, gtfo.
>>2431443> that's harder for a Ukrainian terrorist group to get access to.Yes the same "Ukrainian terrorist group" which blew up NS2
Something tells me that sort of group would not have any difficulties finding access to Russia's delegation if such an assassination was decided.
>>2431587KEKI had a loud laugh and it's funny because
option a, in the propaganda sphere where Russia as a country is winning: Russians are winning.
option b, in the propaganda sphere where Russia as a country is losing: Russians are winning.
that happens when you critically approach the western propaganda. you find so many actors running their own psyops disorganized, you find direct contradictions between them.
>>2431687It's so easy to look at these stupid fucking clowns, and say "Who asked?", but then you realize how trivial it is to start WW3. Everybody involved has to use more and more effort to
not start it.
sidelined, but not too unrelated, in Germany Marxism soon will be declared anti-constitutional:
https://taz.de/Klage-der-Marxistischen-Abendschule/!6101920/>But the detailed written judgment goes beyond this. The court discusses the question of whether engaging with Marxist theory is fundamentally compatible with the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG). It finds: "The plaintiff's activities, centered on the theories of Karl Marx, are fundamentally contrary to the free democratic basic order."
>The court found that the works and teachings of Karl Marx were at the heart of Masch's activities was clearly evident from the name "Marxist Evening School." This was problematic because: "The social theory founded by Marx (…) is likely to be incompatible in essential respects with the (…) principles of the free democratic basic order." The court had not yet elaborated on this point in its oral verdict in April.
<Did you misunderstand Marx?>The problem with Marx is this issue of the "dictatorship of the proletariat," the court argues, looking up the term again on the online state lexicon. This "inevitably excludes other population groups from participating in the political decision-making process and the indirect exercise of state power." In other words: undemocratic!(lmao, pure right-wing brainworms ideology)
People here who knows a bit of German politics, would know that the SPD is filled with Marxist theory across all of their websites, and reading sites, thus, if the German court system finally declares unlawful Marxism, we would see the re-emerging of the anti-communist (and with more association with azov) nazi sentiment in Germany.
>>2432425>Russia would frame their desired relation with Ukraine in a way that the US would see as positiveExcept it didn't, Witkoff did
The US has been the one proposing frozen conflict scenarios based on others like Korea. Russia votes with the rest of the UN on the illegality of Israeli occupation and settlement, picrel
>>2432444>By sending more zionazi ziggers into the illegally occuppied Palestine?I like how the Russia Israel stuff is just entirely made up to cope with geopolitical realities that otherwise reward our views. Like it or not Taiwan, Israel, and Ukraine are flashpoints where the anti-Western power is closely linked to the others, and increasingly so.
>>2432461> like how the Russia Israel stuff is just entirely made up to cope with geopolitical realities that otherwise reward our views. So there is no zigger zionazis Russia allows to steal homes from Palestinians from?
>Vietnam on the listLol, lmao
>>2432444t.
(third pic is a zionist "anarchist")
>>2432472They blame the crisis on the lack of a two state solution and US unilateralism while strategically aligning with Iran and formerly Syria. They balance with local actors including Turkey and Israel. I wouldn't call them neutral, the origin of the crisis with Russia is the US assault on Arab nationalism and the destruction of Libya and Syria. The latter was done explicitly as part of Israeli security.
Russia circles the drain of this issue. It is not hardline and avoids it, it has been very involved in the wider mideast postcolonial conflicts that the I-P issue is a dimension of.
I'm not saying Russia is supporting Hamas like Iran is, just the idea it is Zionist is cope. There's not much of a contradiction in the axis of upheaval here, none of them are particularly happy with how the West handles the I-P conflict. Only one of them (Iran) is directly intervening in it, another (Russia) intervenes in its related conflicts in coordination with the former. For Russia-West relations, Libya was the canary in the coalmine then Syria/Ukraine pairing together was the fatal blow. This does not suggest a power neutral towards Israel, but instead has to handle it carefully. The fact it handles it carefully is treated as evidence Russia is Zionist, when it's the opposite.
>>2432495and is Russia army israel?
OH FUCKING LOOK, NOT EVEN IN THE TOP THREE!
>>2432479Russia does not support settlement of the West Bank, no.
>>2432493>zionists are fighting each other I love how whether it's imperialism or zionism, there's incredible fragility with the idea its monopolized by the West despite history
>>2432504oh, it's you. the retarded ultra that lives rent free in the USApol thread saying KKK.
I won't fight a pig, we both will get mudded, unlike me, you'll enjoy it.
>>2432515remember to go explode the ports where the Arms from the US to zionistland are passing through. immolate yourself, ultra radlib. for the Palestinians
go, go, go armchair lord.
>>2432521 (me)
>>2432528answer, you little cunt.
You care too much about Palestinians, to the point of framing Russia as zionist? whay aren't you going outside to blow some ports,
huh?
>>2432499>The fact it handles it carefully is treated as evidence Russia is Zionist, when it's the opposite.People are just throwing insults at each other, but Russia doesn't have an alliance with Israel like the United States does. On the other hand, there's a reason Palestinians generally don't consider Russia an ally of their cause.
There are in fact a lot of Israelis with both Ukrainian and Russian origins and dual citizenships. And then at elite levels in Russian society, just look at Roman Abramovich. He's Russian and also Israeli and owns a bunch of stuff including steel factories, and has worked as an informal backchannel during the war. There are others.
>>2432534Yea I can't wait for the next speech where he joins with Trump proclaiming Jerusalem as the capital. Soon
If you can't handle geopolitical realities I guess you have to invent them if you're pro Ukraine
>>2432541I gave you an answer directly right here, zigger
>>2432530 and you're refusing to accept what your anti imperialist zionazi leader says
>>2432535Yes Russian Jews are a thing. There is absolutely zero evidence Russia supports the post cold war rampage of the US and Israel as envisioned by neocons (clean break memo etc). That is the actual Zionist international convergence we have seen history produce. Russia is squarely against their reshaping of the middle east and the progress in the latter is a gigantic factor driving the Ukraine conflict.
It's amazing how we are supposed to ignore the last few decades in order to muddle present global divisions. Why? For the sake of internet divisions nobody cares about.
>>2432554Putin praises the history of Judaism in Russia and subsequent cultural ties to Israel after the emigration of Russian Jews. This is a key part of maintaining relations with a fractured middle east. When it comes to the web of its flashpoints, Russia is consistently opposed to the international wars being proposed by Zionists. Where Israel sees the post cold war period as a chance for cleanup to bias the two state process, or bypass it, Russia sees it as an excess of US unilateralism targeting Arab and Muslim states Russia has ties with.
All of this suggests Russia has no interest in the civilizational war promoted by Zionism (see Bibi at the US congress).
ONLY 1%, wooooow the Palestinian defender must be proud of his trolling, because he's a smart ass. He surely, loves Palestinians so much.
https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=ukr&cat=reports&id=1334&page=1you are disgrace, you retarded troll.
Y O U D O N' T C A R E A B O U T P A L E S T I N I A N S >>2432499>while strategically aligning with Iran and formerly Syria. They balance with local actors including Turkey and IsraelMaintaining relations and working with both sides sounds like neutrality to me.
>just the idea it is Zionist is copeThey are in the technical sense of the term of supporting the existence of Israel and some bullshit liberal two state "solution." They are aligned with Iran on some issues via a mutual antagonism with the US, but its pretty clear that they don't really care about the Palestinians.
>>2432599>arming and coordinating defense strategy with Iran so it can fight off Isaeli attacks sounds like neutrality to mesometimes you're so dumb. it's the lingering radlib tendencies
>They are aligned with Iran on some issues via a mutual antagonism with the USThey're aligned with Iran because it is strategically and economically beneficial to be aligned, same reason China and Iran are aligned.
>>2432597Ukraine and Israel are the same thing. They're ethno-supremacist apartheid regimes manufactured and hyper-militarized by the empire for the purpose of dividing and destabilizing their neighbors and respective regions. They have the same backers and the same enemies and are meant to serve the same purpose.
Radlib retards constantly try to spin Ukraine as being like Palestine and Russia Israel but this is totally butt ass backwards. If you want to apply the analogy, Donbas are the Palestinians. Ukraine is Israel. The only difference is that the actual Palestinians have no regional equivalent of Russia who willl step in and kick Israel's ass for them.
Really good writeup from big serge about the situation at the front
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/scraping-the-barrel-attrition-and?
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>The summer campaign has now put Ukraine in an untenable position. The Russians are staged to assault as many as four cities at once, and we should see concurrent operations to take Pokrovsk, Kostyantynivka, Kupyansk, and potentially Lyman, creating pressure at widely separated points. The AFU can only react to so many crises before it ceases to react at all, and the dissipated threats to multiple strategic cities creates command paralysis for Ukraine, which is only exacerbated when the Russians thrust forces into unmanned seams in the line, as they just did north of Pokrovsk.
>The broad picture that emerges is one where Ukrainian units are attrited to the point where the AFU is being thrust into a state of permanent reactivity. Constant pressure on the line is absorbing all the available combat power, and the demands placed on Ukraine by their attempts to defend four strategic axes will leave them without the reserves or resources to attempt a meaningful counterblow of their own. The front will be squeezed from all directions until it begins to pop. It is popping in Pokrovsk, with Kostyantynivka, Lyman, and Kupyansk to follow soon.
>Putin will descend on Alaska with full confidence, as events on the ground proceed in Russia’s favor. Ukraine has already made it known that they are categorically refusing to cede the Donbas, and it is easy to see how Kiev’s pathologically devotion to its “territorial integrity” will upset the prospects for a settlement. Both Ukraine and Russia insist that the four disputed oblasts are nonnegotiable and sacrosanct territories, enshrined in their respective constitutions. Fair enough, one supposes, but constitutions have no real power. Armies do, and the Ukrainian army is looking increasingly threadbare, as it cannibalizes its own force structure in a desperate search for warm bodies to hold the line. Short Report on Russian EconomyMeeting on 2026-28 budget formation
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/short-report-on-russian-economy?
The meeting was attended by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, Deputy Head Maxim Oreshkin, Minister of Economic Development Maxim Reshetnikov, Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov, Chairman of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina.
Yesterday, Putin held a meeting [
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/77763] with his top economic ministers to discuss the formulation of the 2026-2028 federal budget. Prior to diving into that discussion, the current state of Russia’s economy was briefly reviewed by Putin. Russia’s economic strength heading into the Summit is very strong compared to the massive woes faced by the Outlaw US Empire as you’ll read:
< V. Putin: Dear colleagues, good afternoon!
< The government has started preparing the federal budget for the upcoming three-year period, from 2026 to 2028.
< This is the country's main financial document, which aims to address strategic issues, including improving people's quality of life, developing the social sector and infrastructure, and strengthening the country's defense capabilities.
< As always, preparing the budget is a very large, systematic, complex, and, I would say, time-consuming task. It is a purely economic and financial task, but it is also a political task. This is because all positions must be agreed upon with the parliament and the leading factions. This work is based primarily on a forecast of socio-economic development, as well as on the current and future situation in the real sector, including industries such as finance. I will not go into detail, but it is clear what you are working on. Of course, we must also consider the situation on global markets.
< In this regard, I would like to discuss the current state of the domestic economy and its main trends. We will also focus on the implementation of the federal budget this year.
< For the current year, the Government and the Bank of Russia had a joint task of returning the Russian economy to a balanced growth trajectory. We know what this means. It involves reducing inflation while maintaining unemployment at a stable low level. I will say a few words about this now.
< In this regard, an important achievement is the reduction in inflation. In March, inflation was 10.3 percent year-on-year, but by the end of June, it had dropped to 9.4 percent, and by the end of July, it had reached 8.8 percent.
< According to the Bank of Russia, consumer price growth may be within six to seven percent by the end of the year, which is lower than previous forecasts.
< There are signs that the shortage of personnel is decreasing in the labor market. According to surveys conducted by the Bank of Russia, the share of enterprises with a shortage of personnel is decreasing, which is an important and indicative signal.
< At the same time, many experts are talking about the risks of an excessive cooling of the economy and even a recession. We have also discussed this with you, including during our previous working meetings. We constantly discuss this with the Chairman of the Bank of Russia, and the Bank is monitoring the situation and working directly with businesses to assess the risks. As far as I understand, the Bank does not see any significant risks at the moment.
< However, there has been a slight increase in the number of hidden unemployed workers, i.e., those who are on leave, working part-time, or at risk of being laid off. At the beginning of the year, this number was around 98,000, but by the end of June, it had increased to 153,000, and by August 8, it had reached 199,000.
< The number of registered unemployed people has also increased slightly. At the beginning of the year, it was approximately 274,000 people, but by the end of June, it had increased to 291,000 people, and by the beginning of August, it had reached 300,000 people. However, the number of unemployed people remains at record low levels. How many people are currently unemployed?
> M. Reshetnikov: 2.2.
< V. Putin: 2.2 percent. This is practically a historical minimum. However, we must still be able to sense and react to trends in order to avoid what we called “overcooling” at the beginning of the year.
< I ask my colleagues from relevant ministries and agencies, as well as from the regions, to stay in constant contact with business associations and the entrepreneurial community, to help solve emerging problems, and to respond to the requests of enterprises, companies, and their employees.
< As for the federal budget, the situation is stable. In January-July, non-oil and gas revenues of the federal budget increased by 14 percent year-on-year, reaching 14.8 trillion rubles.
< At the same time, the growth of the so-called turnover taxes for January-July was 6.7 percent compared to the same period last year. In particular, the growth of VAT was 6.9 percent.
< This is what I wanted to say at the beginning.
< Let's get started, let's begin our discussion and consideration of the proposed issues. The floor is now open to Anton Germanovich Siluanov. Please proceed.
>IMO, Russia’s economy is being managed very competently and it is being set up for further expansion during 2026. Putin earlier announced that defense/security spending as a percentage of GDP—6.2%—will fall in 2026 to perhaps 4% freeing up funds for investment elsewhere. Not mentioned is the continuing growth of wages/incomes that was driving inflation because of supply shortfall caused by the drive for self-sufficiency/complete sovereignty related to the national import substitution project which is mostly completed. The labor situation is very important because it affects the rate of development expansion. It’s one thing to have the monies for investment and another to have the personnel capable of implementing those monies into completed projects. More information about the state of Russia’s economy and its development projects will be revealed at the upcoming Far Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok at the beginning of September—the beginning days of September will be very active with all the planned events: SCO Summit, 80th anniversary of V-J Day, and the FEEF.>>2431503Wow, burger military bases in the middle of nowhere look like THAT?
I, uh, feel the need to, uh, declare my intention never to join the hegemon's military.
>>2431875>Leaders negotiate directly if you want to settle things in an appropriate time frame."Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…"
Minsk I, Minsk II, Istanbul I, …
>>2432741 (me)
Sorry, exact words were "a pyrrhic Russian victory," which I took to mean another 2014-tier small land gain at the expense of long-term strategy.
<If Russia comes out of this with Donetsk and Lugansk but not the other two annexed oblasts, I don’t see how you can construe that as anything but a pyrrhic Russian victory. >>2432741Sure, but at this point I don't see any evidence that Russia is preparing or needing to give up anything.
>>2430496In an earlier thread iirc someone floated the idea that a reason Ukraine was reluctant to mobilize the 18-24 demo was because they'd been getting the nazi indoctrination full blast their entire lives and them getting wiped out in the field would basically kill the movement in its cradle. Maybe allowing them to flee the country is meant to be its "scattering a thousand seeds" moment in the face of imminent defeat.
It has occurred to me that the enduring motivation to continue with Ukraine's self-destruction, that flying a plane into an apartment block in Rostov-On-Don and other such attacks are genuine morale boosters, is the result of modern Ukraine not having of any kind of legacy or material achievements that would be worth protecting anyway. Their fascist nationalism revolves entirely around a tale of oppression at the hands of history making Warsaw and Moscow positions of power in the region instead of Kiev, therefore their raison d'etre is simply vengeance, for while a state called Ukraine continues to exist despite history having previously made them losers and can attack Russia (and to a far lesser extent Poland), then it is still succeeding in its national mission and there is no need to become demoralised.
While there have been plenty of cases historically where the losing side starts to crumble under demoralisation where war was supposed to protect being, say German, but now it's evident that continued war would destroy Germany (or at least all the things one associates with Germany, its legacy, achievements, culture, etc) and thus continuing the war at any cost would label the leadership as traitors. But that can't apply to a nation that only considers itself to have a history of oppression and prides itself only on having at least now the power to exact some kind of revenge.
Nooking Kiev therefore wouldn't change anything, because that assumes their capital is a symbol of anything relating to that goal, but it isn't, quite the opposite if you feel the corruption in Kiev has been a detriment to the goal of vengeance by existence. The Azovstal plant in Mariupol carries way more symbolism in that regard.
>>2432783"Nationalisms" like Ukraine are solely spiteful nationalisms. The idea of Ukraine was forged by German, Austrian, and Hungarian militarists in order to fragment Russia, which was the center of civilizational development for the Eurasian polarity. There is no possibility of Ukraine being a center of development for itself, it was historically dependent on Russia for its cultural, political, religious, philosophical, etc development. Only in barbarism can it hope to compete with Russian development, that's why they lionize the Cossacks so much. Without war, without a fascistic praise of war, there is no Ukrainian nationalism. Constant war is the price of the existence of Ukraine as a separate nation.
>>2432753>Russia did nothing.Russsia supplied significant parts of their defenses which enabled them to defend themselves from Israel/US attack, and Iran didn't ask them to do anything during the attack. And there's no mutual defense clause because Iran didn't want one.
Iran is important to both Russia and China for economic and geopoltiical reasons. All geopolitical alliances are to some extent conditional and opportunistic, but the Russia-Iran relationship is more than that. You always seem to have this idea that actions are only valid if they come purely from altruism or ideological purity. Geopol doesn't work that way.
Russia might sell some weapons to Turkey on occasion but that is not of the same scale or depth as their defense cooperation with Iran. It is probably true that Russia sees Israel as a reality that isn't going anywhere. They see Turkey the same way, and that the viable opposition to Erdogan is probably even worse. I think it understands both as enemies, but ones that are better to keep de-escalated and with a face of normalcy. Pick battles, can't fight every front at once, etc.
As for Palestine, it's not Russia's neighborhood, not their cause to solve. They've tried solving some causes in the ME like Syria and ultimately got burned. Where Russia has assisted Palestine is indirectly through supporting Iran/Syria/AOR, and diplomatically in condemning Israel's actions along with most of the world. If anyone was going to save Palestine it was going to be the AOR (which has such ability in part due to Russian support), but the rest of the ME wanted to do sectarian infighting instead, including a lot of Palestinians. see here:
>>2432733Sometimes being Sunni is more important than doing anything to assist the Palestinians, it seems.
>>2432809So Stalin defines a nation as
>A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.That doesn't just appear when you partition some territory and claim it to be "Ukraine" or "Israel" for that matter, you can't resurrect a "nation" by that definition if it died hundreds or even thousands of years prior. While all bourgeois nationalism is cringe IMO, you can rationalise it that all that nation has historically done has been progressive towards its continued existence and expansion and thus it's reasonable to expect an idealist protectionism of said history and having the "duty" to continue it further, but that doesn't exist for nations that died and later brought back from the dead. Their nationalism is not based on historic successes, whether in combat or in culture, their nationalism can only pick up from the point it died and to be sure when history has its losers, there's a lot that goes with that.
Such fascist ultranationalism revels in the historic aberration someone else created for them, they've been resurrected as lines on a map for most, but in their minds they've been given a continue with an army, diplomatic relations to successful nations that brought them back to life, the right to teach how history unfairly wronged them, the right to act upon history as they've framed it in vengeance.
It's actually irreconcilable for Ukraine that the vast majority speak Russian and many only speak Russian, or that economic life is substantially different between the Western and Eastern sides, or both being a result of being given territories they aren't the strongest claimants to as a nationality and therefore will never achieve "psychological make-up manifested in a common culture." without ridding themselves of anyone who refuses to identify with their ultra-nationalism, which they invariably do attempt to.
Therefore, revenge is the surrogate raison d'etre that turns "err here you can have this territory" into something that resembles a nation, thus you cannot humiliate in war nor diplomacy the already humiliated and vengeful. Nooking Kiev won't cause Ukrainian nationalists to give up so long as they can still blow up a gas tank somewhere in Russia.
>>2432826US and Israeli actions in MENA are the same thing man.
Russia spent more than a decade trying to defend Syria from a US/Israel/Turk, etc attack. It continues to help Iran defend from US/Israeli attack. That is not neutrality. It is being on the opposite side of Israel and the US and they all know it. It's just a matter of how much any of them actually want to escalate or invest.
SCREENCAP THIS OFFICIAL KING LEAR PREDICTION
The meeting tomorrow between Trump and Putin will be a highly televised Kabuki Theatre “Failure” (their will be no joint press conference, and the Bourgeois “News Media” will report that it was a “Circus” similar to the Zelensky meeting) that will result in Trump refusing to force a Ceasefire to end the Kabuki theatre Inter-Imperialist Stalemate Retarded Slavic Border War (if it was up to me, their would be an immediate Permanent Ceasefire along the line of contact, Crimea recognized as part of Russia, a Neutral Ukraine, and in the future Global USSR, Crimea will be an ASSR in the Russian SFSR, while the Donbas will be an ASSR in the Ukrainian SSR) Between the Fascist U$/Zionist puppet states of Ukraine and Russia, who are both controlled by the same cabal of duel citizen Zionist Oligarchs who raped the vestiges of the USSR which was destroyed by the Khrushchevite Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Revisionist Clique, which culminated in the Gorbachev Capitalist Perestroika/Glasnost “reforms” and the phony 1991 “Project Hammer” Coup attempt which officially dissolved the USSR and put the drunkard degenerate Yelstin in power, who chose as his successor the KGB/CIA/Mossad double agent traitor Putin, who staged the FSB/CIA False Flag 1999 Moscow Apartment Bombing which acted as the casus belli for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya (just like the CIA/Mossad False Flag 9/11 attacks was both the casus belli for the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, along with the final conclusion of “Project Hammer”, and the Mossad False Flag October 7th attack was the casus belli for the Zionist Genocida of Gaza), is due to the fact that Putin’s Russia is a convenient bogeymen to keep the EuroCucks under U$ occupation, so they can lose whatever is left of their sovereignty through NATO and the fake “European Union” designed to destroy all the Nations of Europe with a fake “European” National Identity (the absurdity of the concept of a single “European” National Identity is elucidated in the Video of the changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 years that I posted, which shows that Europe is populated by dozens of Nations/Ethnic groups, divided into several large Ethno-Linguistic groups, most notably the Germanic peoples, Slavic Peoples, Romance Peoples, etc. all of which have been Migrating/Invading, Mixing, Assimilating, and Genociding each other for thousands of years), which will pave the way for them all being fully Americanized into “White” Racist Redneck Evangelical Protestant Euromutts with a massive impoverished underclass of Non-European migrants (mostly Arab Muslims fleeing Genocidal U$ Imperialist /Zionist Wars and Black Africans fleeing Neocolonial Imperialist Poverty/Exploitation/Starvation) who will be brutally exploited by U$/“European” Capitalists and used as a Scapegoat to transform Europe into a Islamophobic Zionist Christian Nationalist Fascist Shithole, which will eventually include Russia as well once their Bogeyman role is no longer needed, and whether the absorption of Russia into this fully Americanized “Europe” which are all officially U$ States, is a peaceful integration or the result of a violent Civil War/Collapse in Russia after Putin’s death is hard to predict, but it is worth noting that all Russian “Nukes” were dismantled during the Nunn-Luger program, so their is absolutely nothing stopping an eventual violent absorption of Russia, though I believe the “Russian” Oligarchs will make sure that the absorption is mostly Peaceful, in order to preserve their ill-gotten fiefdom, 😂🤣🤢🤮!
Additionally, I believe that Trump wants to use the so-called “Secondary Sanctions” on all countries that import Russian Oil/Gas, as a convenient excuse to dramatically escalate the Trade War with China into a full-decoupling of all Trade between the U$ and China, which combined with Trump forcing the ROC/“Taiwan” U$ puppet state to declare “independence” and/or the U$ recognizing them as the “Real China”, will force China to Invade Taiwan, thus giving the U$ a Casus belli to launch World War III against China, which means Trump will have Bipartisan support to use the Insurrection Act to declare Martial Law, suspend all Elections, and become De Facto President for Life, though this could dramatically backfire as it will either end in a decisive Conventional U$ victory (due to the U$ B-2 Stealth Bomber and Standoff Stealthy JASSMs, LRASMs, and Tomahawks, launched by B-1/2/52 Bombers in the case of the JASSM, B-1 Bombers in the case of the LRASM, and Cruisers, Destroyers, and Submarines, in the case of the Tomahawk, destroying most Chinese Air Bases, Naval Bases, Warships, SRBM/MRBM/IRBM/GLCM launchers, and SAM sites, which despite Chinese DF-21/26 MRBMs/IRBMs and CJ-10 Cruise Missiles launched by H-6 Bombers and Type 052D/Type 055 Destroyers, severely damaging many U$ air and naval bases in Japan and South Korea and Anti-Ship Missiles launched by H-6 Bombers and Type 052D/Type 055 Destroyers sinking several U$ Destroyers and Cruisers, causes China to suffer a decisive Conventional Defeat and Capitulate) that will lead to the overthrow of the Chinese Communist Party and the Balkanization of China (Tibet and East Turkestan will gain Independence) in a renewed Century of Humiliation, thus enshrining the Global Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist 1000 year Burgereich under the eternal Trump Dynasty, or escalate into a Global Nuclear War (due to a DF-21D, DF-26, or YJ-21 ASBM, launched by a TEL in the case of the DF-21/26, or a H-6 Bomber or Type 055 Destroyer in the case of the YJ-21, penetrating the Aegis ABM system and sinking a U$ Aircraft Carrier, thus provoking a U$ Nuclear First Strike on China, and assuming some Chinese ICBMs survive, and that their MIRVed Nuclear Warheads penetrate the U$ ABM system, a Chinese Nuclear Second Strike on the U$) that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2432888I may have been wrong in the short term, but in the long term I was right that the Russia-Ukraine War is a Kabuki theatre Inter-Imperialist Stalemate Retarded Slavic Border War, designed to keep both the Vlasovite Fascist Zionist Bourgeois Oligarch Regime in Russia and the Banderite Fascist Zionist Bourgeois Oligarch Regime in Ukraine in power while their Proles kill each other in the trenches for nothing, along with furthering the U$ agenda of both Cucking the EuroCucks and Decoupling from China in order to start World War III against them, with Russia’s long term fate being the same as Ukraine and the rest of Europe, to be fully absorbed into the U$ as a State, until the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that destroys the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️! By the way, Comrade, what do you think of the highly Informative/Interesting Video I posted of the Changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 Years, 🤔?
>>2432953I’m sure “Some” of them “May” work, but even that is the case it means that their deterrent is effectively worthless, as if you know the vast majority of your Nukes don’t work, then you will never be confident about using them under any circumstances because you don’t know which are the few that still work, and you would never want to launch ICBMs and have most get shot down, and the few MIRVed Warheads that get through, don’t go off, while all of your opponents Warheads that get through (most of them, considering Russian ABM is also shit) do go off and wipe you out, so this is what happens when you embrace Khrushchevite Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Revisionism and sell your country to Bourgeois Zionist Oligarchs and expect that it won’t destroy your country and turn it into a Third World Fascist Shithole, at the mercy of U$ Imperialism, which you pathetically collaborate with in a Kabuki Theatre, 😂🤣🤢🤮!
>>2432992I've followed a bunch of people from Gaza, and some of them were just passing by when everything started (exchange students, visiting family, etc.) and SO many of them will tell you they want to return to their countries. guess the majority of the countries I've seen named: Qatar, UAE.
countries that were close to normalize relations with Israel, and one with an Israeli embassy.
>>2432962>>20.000 hrivnas have been added to your account
Thanks. I used it to re-examine your post for yet another instance of stupidity.
>>2433033>Wait are they losing Belarus or annexing it?Neither. It's not catastrophic yet. It's gone from entirely pro-Russian and anti-American to open to dialogue with the US. I don't blame Luka, tbh.
>You have been arguing both ways the last week lmaoI haven't mentioned Belarus for months.
>>2433098Oi m8 do I see you negotiating with the enemy?
This ain't on
>>2433130It's a collective action problem
Like the old rule of the internet "don't feed the troll"
Well, are we just sposed to give up? I won't do. This board can be better. We will make it better.
>>2433122As I said I cannot filter anyway. I am saying make the people potentially replying aware of the option to just not.
The identifags can't be helped anyway.
>>2433130There was a phenomenon on Usenet where you could add someone to a killfile based on a very simple match of name or email address, but then some boomer would feel the need to post that he's also added the annoying poster to his killfile, and then the annoying poster would gradually learn to switch up names, emails, etc., and you'd have to start using complicated and less reliable regex patterns, a new one every few days.
:-/
>>2433133It's not pointless, dog.
Having Putin on CNN/FOX 24/7 is a propaganda win. Putin will educumate Trump like he did uh… Forgot his face… That conservTard reporter.
It will be fun. It will be meme'd. Putin will inject anti-nafo angle to the us press.
10/10, no re
>>2433144It's gonna be this handshake and height differential:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-Jiil1Ues:(
>>2433148 (me)
Also, watch carefully as Drumpf outs Peskov as the rat in the Kremlin. Always knew something was 'off' about that guy.
>>2433114It is sad that the Khrushchevite/Dengist Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Marcyite Campist Capitalist Roader Revisionists can’t accept the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, and instead have to filter us in order to hide from the spectre of Real Communism (Marxism-Leninism-Maoism) in the imaginary Echo-Chamber Bubble of a Revisionist “Safe Space”, but rest assured, this Revisionist bubble will disappear in the face of the Worldwide triumph of Maoism, after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War (both U$ and Chinese Nukes work, unlike Russian Nukes) that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first map I posted, and I plan on posting an improved version of this Map by the end of this month, which will finally divide Sub-Saharan Africa into an appropriate number of SSRs based on its Ethno-Linguistic demographics, which I have been thoroughly researching over the last few months), that will Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, which will involve a Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution that will see all Religion outlawed, all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas etc. bulldozed, all Religious clothing banned, and all Priests/Ministers/Rabbis/Monks/Nuns/Imams etc. forced to wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, while all Bourgeois Khrushchevite/Dengist Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Marcyite Campist Capitalist Roader Revisionists, Liberals, and Fascists will also be forced too wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, and all Women will be forced to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter), and Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/lipstick are banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, while everyone will be forced to wear Mao Suits (Capitalist Business suits are Banned as well), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2432737Yes, the west does not play fair. Yet we still have to deal with them like we would with legitimate actors. We still have to contend with the west. Containment must be done carefully.
The other option is to just not try or try to cut them out of the global system. The second option is unrealistic unless China wants to crash this world economy with no survivors.
So it is a facade but you can't dispense of this particular bully quite this easily.
>>2432745I also think nothing substantial is gonna happen. But Trump, in his idiocy, is still the most powerful actor in the world (militarily). You have to contend with him. This is just realpolitik. We would all like to say "US out of everywhere", we do. Don't ever think we don't. If Don the Con wants to meet Poutine to chat about their mutual love of, I don't know, LEGO fucking Star Wars, it will be done.
Realpolitk folks.
You can call me a geopolitical analyst now, friends, frenemies and assorted others.
>>2433183That's another thing.
I don't care about Ruzzia despite some accusations.
We, as humanity, will not win in a substantial, sustainable manner until, in the course of the next decades, the west has completed its decline.
Consult my chart, if you please.
>>2433198I wish someone who's good with computers would develop it, as the author.
You can see I tried to have the country flags round like the world but then I of course noticed you can't do that shit in paint.
I can do a paintjob.
>>2433257 (me)
Incidentally, I'd honestly prefer that none of the meeting be aired and Trump gets to lie about his 10/10 dominance plays. That's a less annoying outcome for me than seeing parts of the meeting aired and seeing Trump pull off 4/10 dominance plays, because nobody outside Trump's MAGA base believes a word he says.
>>2433194It's par for the course for an empire.
There are stories the Mongols catapulted plague infested corpses over city walls.
I think that's funny now, in hindsight. It's not really how the plague spreads, in the main. Pretty fucked up tho. At the time it was anything but funny.
>>2433272One good thing about Putin's communication style vs. Zelensky's is that he has a more deliberate pace with none of the impulsive outbursts. He knows how to use ever so brief silences and tension to defuse attacks, making the attacker look infantile. And he doesn't wildly gesticulate like Zelensky.
Heads up, tho: I'll be Cucktin posting if he fucks this up.
>>2433279His mouth is his biggest problem. I unironically believe that there's a parallel universe in which, in early 2022, Zelensky chooses to become a voluntary mute and does much better winning friends and influencing people.
When one can't beat the control of saying nothing, something is wrong.
>>2433288I'm not online enough to understand.
NS to me is National-socialims
Mountains of Corpses, and why Russians don't seem to care
< Expert on the Russian armed forces Dara Massicot and a Ukrainian officer writing under the pseudonym Tatarigami analyzed on the messaging service X the impact of the heavy losses suffered by Russia’s armed forces on dictator Vladimir Putin’s mood and that of ordinary Russians.
< Massicot says she has read several analyses and statements that have addressed Russia’s massive and growing losses.
< According to her, the attacker’s losses are now at record levels.
< “But that fact does not currently affect Putin or Russian society,” Massicot writes.
< She says that in Russia, society has generally accepted large losses as part of warfare. According to Massicot, in Russia it is thought that joining the armed forces is often a conscious economic decision.
< Therefore, appealing to the scale of the losses does not work, in the expert’s view, as a means of persuading Putin to end the war.
< The Ukrainian officer writing under the pseudonym Tatarigami agrees with Massicot. According to him, the indifferent attitude is also influenced by the fact that Russia has increasingly recruited prisoners into the armed forces, some of whom avoid punishment by serving on the front in Ukraine.
< “Many Russians view this positively because it is a way to remove ‘undesirable’ elements from society,” Tatarigami writes.
< This, he says, is partly the reason for the population’s indifferent attitude toward the accumulation of losses.
< However, the end result is not a professional army composed of volunteers, Tatarigami assesses.
< According to him, the quality of the attacker’s armed forces is constantly deteriorating, and even units known as elite formations are unable to operate at the expected level.
< “In addition, the constant need for recruitment strains Russia’s budget and economy.”https://x.com/MassDara/status/1956036598589513968 >>2433306I will not be reading such drivel except if forced to under torture in the imperialist re-education camp.
The headline alone is clearly projection by our enemy.
Is there a price too high for freedom, democracy and the amerikkkan way?
The answer is a resounding no from the bourgeois leaders and their helpers.
>>2433313If you want a good puke, look up westoid numbers, eh (or -as the west is not simply supportive of Israel but its reason for existence and altogether so closely connected that they may as well be one and the same- look up "allies, Japan etc., never seen that)
Yes, everything but 1) Palestine
is objectively wrong. So these numbers are not good, however far from the worst.
>>2433290I get where you're coming from, but what idealists give themselves in the rhetorical right to complete flexibility in their own personal framing of the world, even allowing for self-contradiction, they lose in just generally being horrified by their inability to
understand the world they inhabit when it doesn't match up to their own framing, which is most of the time.
It's why they're all miserable psuedo-nihilists and love and identify with adult cartoon characters that are depressed, rude, eye-rolling, sarcastic pricks with a backstory of being traumatised by authority figures (like parents rather than police) when they were wide-eyed naive youths. Their "profound" conceptualisation of how the world ought to be is something they expect other intelligent beings should also be able to just intuitively understand as possible and desirable and thus want to work together to achieve, the fact that the world doesn't exist according to their own personal set of values and that not everyone even agrees with their values is inexplicable, people must just be dicks, therefore there's no hope for a better world, so I'm just going to larp as Rick Sanchez from now on.
Yes adopting a materialist world view developed by multiple philosophers over centuries demands effort and even discipline to analyse the world via that understanding, while others get to imagine up anything that works within how they think things ought to be and claim you're cultish and not a "free thinker" to be so inflexible with yourself, but I am quite confident that my current level of understanding of Marxism will lead me to an understanding of current events broadly consistent with those historically.
And I'm satisfied more with that than the temporary bliss of ignorance, in the context of Ukrainians being mass slaughtered at the behest of both Ukrainian and Western elites, to be like
>But what if Putin is just Hitler?and then be disappointed, lost, broken when the conflict ends in a settlement that everyone understands you couldn't and wouldn't make with Hitler, #mytruth in Ukraine becomes one about rape, betrayal and abandonment at the hands of western libs, etc.
>>2433030Belarus is a nuclear armed state because it asked for Russian nukes on their territory. The two have never been closer
>>2433041Russia proved it could exist outside of the western economy now. Don't tell me you seriously believe Russia was stronger when SWIFT had leverage
>>2433351It’s not liberation when you’re an outsider drawing lines all over a big country and then highlighting how most of the resulting nations by population would be helpless microstates.
I don’t really get libs that draw up these fantasy maps of a Balkanised Russia and China, because while some regional breakaway states have been based on ethnic tensions, taking that as to mean everything outside the garden should be turned into micro ethnostates is wild.
>>2433367That’s the point of fantasy balkanisation maps, the outsiders claim they’re listening to the “occupied” when they draw the lines based on ethnic makeup, despite usually celebrating multiculturalism at home.
It’s a kind of Orientalism that assumes those savages can’t stand being part of a larger nation, unlike civilised forward thinking gardeners who have learned to embrace the idea of being stronger together.
liberal dementia
up is down - left is right, coupled with "umm ackkschually"
https://thetricontinental.org/newsletterissue/peace-development-nato-brics/>>2433397Yeah, lets not play 20 questions here, are you an insider because you are simultaneously a member of all constituent ethnicities of the Russian Federation? Are you able to speak as equally well for the Komi people as you are for the Bashkirs, the Tartars, the Buryats, etc? If so, is it your map and why didn’t you include statistics for percentages of support for this fragmentation in each projected state?
Is there a reason why there’s no expectation that some of these states might unify, since they’re apparently united by a hatred of their Moscovite colonisers but that surely doesn’t guarantee they all need to draw ethnic lines between each other as that suggests the motivation is a hatred of each other.
Basically you’re not an insider to 20+ places lmao
>>2433373Russia is Asia actually.
t. Dugin.
And don't ever fucking ask me a question again, you waste of fucking skin
Maggot liberal
>>2433435"We" are not on that.
It's liberal infestation. Every time reality encroaches on their fantasy land, see like with this meeting today, they in turn encroach here. You can set your clock to it.
>>2433367Yes you are, libshit. Western attempts at destabilization would have worked somewhere if you were correct. They don't because the foundation of friendship of peoples laid by the Bolsheviks is strong everywhere it wasn't deliberately destroyed by newly born capitalists in the 90s. The modern Russian state is shaped by Bolshevik policies far more than Ukraine. And you know that if you aren't an outsider in any capacity, that's a huge reason why your Nazi ilk always seethe about the country and Russian Nazis go fight for Ukraine. The concept of Russian Federation is fundamentally a Bolshevik one, as your Ukrainian friends never get tired of saying.
Do you think communists will attack a national project built by the Bolsheviks if you throw enough buzzwords at it?
>>2433413>Yeah, lets not play 20 questions here, Sow why are you asking these questions?
>are you an insider because you are simultaneously a member of all constituent ethnicities of the Russian Federation?Yes
> Are you able to speak as equally well for the Komi people as you are for the Bashkirs, the Tartars, the Buryats, etc?No but we have similiar situations.
>>2433467Well now you’ve gone from
>I think we should asked the occupiedto now saying
>I can’t ask the occupied, they’re too occupied >>2433457damn thats some serious z derangement syndrome, hope you're not from a nato country to say shit like that with a straight face
who am i kidding, ofc you're a nafoid
>>2433495They are like
hitting new lows
I thought they had bottomed out cause they were plateauing on very low level of critical thinking etc. for a time there
>>2433500when did anyone say they support NATO? i only said that there are more NAFOids who oppose Israel than the opposite of ziggas opposing Israel. the funny thing is that Israel sucks up munitions that Ukraine could have used especially for air defense, but you guys still hate Palestinians regardless. why?
if i am a NATO supporter then ziggas are Israel supporters. that's the game you're playing and i can play along.
>>2433526The US is never going to nuke Belarus with or without Belarus having nukes stationed on its territory. The threat from the US is conventional strikes, and Luka has no reason for thinking that Putin will use nukes in response to such strikes when Putin doesn't even respond to US/UK strikes on his own country.
This shift from Luka to open dialogue with the US started after Iran was attacked. Probably Luka doesn't think much of the technicality that he has a piece of paper promising defense from Russia whereas Iran didn't.
>>2433529>The US is never going to nuke Belarus with or without Belarus having nukes stationed on its territoryfalse
>This shift from Luka to open dialogue with the US started after Iran was attackedIt's the americans refusing talks with the Russians not the other way around. The americans allowing Luka to act as a liaison between the two superpowers plays to Putin's advantage of course
>>2433499it must be hard having your worldview shattered so hard. having to watch two superpowers meeting to talk about what to do with the carcass of the aparthied nazi shithole you thought was fighting for liberal values.
It must be hard to have to watch Russia defeating the Collected West. It was supposed to be a gas station masquerading as a country, but it's turns out it's just stronger, smarter, better looking and more environmentally sound than the West after all. Hard pill to swallow.
>>2433547>more often than not its an exercise in building trustShift those goalposts, boy.
What did Luka get in return for freeing the Westoid glowies?
> In another corner of the room, behind the bank of cameras, a large painting of Vladimir Lenin stood on an easel, and Lukashenko turned to it as we sat down.
>“These days, of course, I’m far from being Soviet, but Soviet principles, the best ones, live inside me,” Lukashenko mused. “Why should I reject them? Just like the Americans do not reject their history, it’s the same with me. That’s why we have this friendship with Russia, the closest kind of cooperation.”
>>2433566>>2433566>>2433566>>2433566Made the next one.
NEW NEWcongrats to the liberals for getting a (prominent) mention
>>2433565Your take that Belarus may have received undisclosed benefits is at least coherent.
>>2433572Try harder next time to "make da Ziggas sound retarded," NAFOid /k/oper. Nice tactic - had me going for a bit - but could use some polishing.
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