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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Here is my tier list of socialist countries. Venezuela is D tier because they are barely even Socialist and seem closer to modern Russia rather than Soviet Russia. Nicaragua is D tier because they have not done much or developed anything, I know there is a trade embargo but Cuba has made great healthcare progress with their embargo, also they are pretty authoritarian. North Korea is C tier because they are probably the most authoritarian of them all but they have developed a ton and they even color their Commie-Blocks. Vietnam is B tier because it is the second most developed of them and has the most freedom out of all of them but what holds them back is that they are supper pro-America and supper Anti-China and I think that socialist countries should put their differences aside to grow socialism. Laos is B tier because I have no idea about anything about it and no one has ever heard of it. China is A tier because they are the most developed and also the last hope of earth, but my biggest gripe with China is that even though it is exaggerated by the western media there is some truth to the persecution of the Uyghurs and just because other countries do it doesn’t make it okay :/ and even though it is good that they are non-interventionist they kinda are to a fault because they really need to sanction Israel. Cuba is S tier, Cuba despite being a weak country militarily they still manage to spite the US even though they are right below us by providing material support to groups that the US doesn’t like.

You do realize Cuba cares more about pandering to western liberals than building socialism at this point, right?

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>>2430182
>Here is my tier list of socialist countries.
<posts capitalist countries

>>2430185

How does it pander to liberals? Biden literally refused to end the embargo.

>>2430194
Ah yes the "not true socialism" spiral

>>2430185
> Everything I don't like is bourgeois.
Your personal biases against homosexuality have nothing to do with communism.

>>2430196
They're just transphobic. Developing the productive forces and lowering the rate of profit is critical to triggering a general crisis of capitalism in the imperial core. Industrializing domestic labor is an essential part of this program. If you want to blow a hole in the rate of profit, build a bunch of commie blocks and organize laundry and food delivery services.

>>2430225
>If you want to destroy the imperial block just build capitalism in your own country
And yet you people bashed on Kautsky when this is what he was talking about

>>2430228
Capitalism isn't some evil demon it's a superior organization of society to slavery and feudalism, and an unfortunately necessary prelude to socialism.

>>2430182
I would put Venezuela one higher and DPRK with their dystopia one lower but other than that I agree with your list.

China is obviously S tier, Cuba and north Korea should be A tier. Other that it's alright, maybe move Laos to C tier

>>2430194
the real movement
the movement in my head

>Here is my tier list of socialist countries
S: liberal
A: liberal
B: liberal, liberal
C: liberal
D:liberal, liberal

What did OP mean by this?


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>>2430332
>the real movement
>the movement in my head

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

Holy fuck liberals think "the real movement" means a movement that does anything, which makes it indistinguishable from liberalism, rather than what Marx meant which is a movement that transcends the superstructure

>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

>>2430363
This is false. Marx suggested concrete reforms in th manifesto like a progressive tax. Ultras are illiterate morons.

>>2430182
ummm…. where's russia, iran and syria?

>>2430685
Russia and Iran are both oligarchies who happen to not obey American hegemony and Syria stopped being socialist after Assad fell.

>China
>socialist
The cope remains strong

>>2431081
>Assad
>socialist
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>2430182
anon all of these countries suck except for china, this makes me not want to be a far-leftoid

>>2430363
I never got that Marx quote because he and Engels had a ton of "ideals" they predicted socialism would have, like abolishing the antagonism between town and country, or Marx's view of labor vouchers and taking from the social stock the equivalent of what you put in. Maybe they'd say they scientifically deduced it from studying capitalism but that's pretty weasely.

>>2430214
No true Scotsman is not a fallacy, its pure analysis. You are not the true socialist, no true socialist ever complains about no true socialism.

>Nicaragua is D tier because they have not done much or developed anything
Wow how surprising for christian nationalists!

>>2437046
I wonder why Cuba developed stuff then? Oh that's right, they mooched off of the USSR just like their cousins and only adopted ML to have a shitty national liberation.
>>2430225
>They're just transphobic.
Yea that peculiar issue is important whereas participating in a global economic system of intentionally created crime revolving around repressing drug users other than users of tobacco, alcohol and caffeine for their drug of choice is not enough for you to note. I wonder if them being massive religious retards has something to do with it?


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