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BOLIVIA ELECTION THREAD
Menshevick implosion edition

This sunday is the election in the land that as Rome didn't called itself Romulus had to call itself Bolivia instead of Bolivar.

who is more at fault here, Evo or Arce? On one hand the economy hasn’t recovered under Arce the way he promised and the state is still mostly together, on the other Evo literally got exiled in a coup and if I were in his shoes I would also feel entitled to another presidential term, not sure if it justifies raids on army stations in Cochabamba.

LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z
The MAS (the pink wave party carriying the show for +20years) has imploded with 3 (now 2) candidacies.
The Arcista MAS with Del Castillo and the exheir of Evo, Andronico Rodriguez who is fourth or fifth in the polls (yeah yeah, the polls) and the elephant in the room Evo Morales, who has being calling for the null vote in the voooot

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I don't even know if I have words for how stupid this whole crisis is tbh. Both Acre and Evo seem to be far more interested in the power of their political factions rather than the good of the Bolivian people as a whole.

>>2434536
It’s especially harsh when contrasted by the stability and development from 2006-2019

President Arce does a complete change in the military leadership. The president declared that the armed forces are for guarateeing the peace and the democratic process
While Evo calls that it is a part of the incoming fraud and the flight of Arce. Both a mastermind and a traitor, damn, a superspy

>>2433848
Evo represents the real movement of the people, Arce represents the emergent bureaucracy

The rightoids are going to win again aren't they?

>>2433848
Tbqh I still think Evo should have just complied with the term limits and not run in 2019 instead of getting the court to overturn them. If his party had a solid social base and political infrastructure then his personal participation in politics should hardly be necessary. That being said idk enough about Arce to say which would be preferable.

Why is Evo disqualified again?

>>2435003
Evo should have groomed a successor or ensured harder continuity in his party. If AMLO can do (handed Claudia an even larger margin) it why can't Evo?

yes i know idpol
but damn these are the candidates in the only indigenous majority country in latin america? wtf
and they all seem to be rightoids as well

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>>2433839
is /ourguy/ there to make sure this is a free and fair election?

>>2435011
Because the bolivian constitutional tribunal ruled that no bolivian can rule as president or vicepresident more than two times and a time max of 10 years, no matter if it is in a continuous or discontinuous timeline
https://elpais.com/argentina/2025-05-14/el-tribunal-constitucional-de-bolivia-confirma-la-inhabilitacion-de-morales-para-las-elecciones.html
If there is a lawyer who wants to read all that shit
https://jurisprudenciaconstitucional.com/resolucion/220844-sentencia-constitucional-plurinacional-0007-2025
>>2435031
idpol Andronico and Doria seems more mestizo than the rest.

Truly a disgrace for Bolivia, this election. I hope Evo recovers soon. May their situation be a reminder that the reformist stance that the South American leftists/workers partys took since the 90's will bring nothing but defeats and capitulation.

Maduro, Ortega and Castro seems to be the only ones who done their homework. All the popular fronts have failed miserably.

Is this the first time a leftist is actually going to lose power via elections lol

Evo goes to the polls

Del Castillo votes and gets booed
Later declares to the press that they are doing an app to get accurate results, like 2020

Here is him declaring to the press

it's over

witch is better husbando?
Andrónico Rodríguez vs Eduardo Del Castillo

>"Evo should have groomed"

>Evo should been a soyjak user
>"a successor"
>Evo should been a agot fan

agot

>>2437005
don't worry best socdem girl Rodrigo Paz Pereira will win :^)
fuck the "Libre'$" neoliberalism/Conservative liberalism shit

I was in Bolivia in February. 3/3 of the people I asked really hated Evo. I guess I was speaking not so much with the indigenous but mostly with the more well off with european decent. In Santa Cruz I saw a lot of graffiti and fliars calling Morales a pedo.

>>2437363
Well, he hasn't done a very good job answering to the accusations.
Bro did a USSR Speedrun and went directly to Beria

I really wonder what is Evo’s game plan. Let the right take over Bolivia while he salvages his own party?

>>2436084
AMLO did what Evo couldn’t. Had an actual successor he liked.

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Sisters and brothers, people of Bolivia. I want to express my profound gratefullness for the support received in this electoral day. The people has spoken and have decided who will go into the second round.
We accept with respect this democratic decision, because we always have defended the sovereign voice of our people
For us, this was a singular experience, in a electoral process very complicated and full of obstacles. Sadly, for some leaders and (leaders) of the popular movement it was prioritary their own whims, prides and false acusations.
Blinded by power, they lead a incessant battle against us, as we were mortal enemies, or rather, opening a way for them.
But alas, it is a good time to rise, do a profound reflection, recompone the popular movement, correct the mistakes and go forward. Politics are from resistence and not from velocity.
Our fight does not end here. We continue firm, defending the social conquests, our natural resources, the indigenous and farmer (campesino) movement and the popular sectors, that have been and will continue being the heart of Bolivia's transformations.
I carry in my heart every wish for sucess of the families that have accompanied us in all of this campaign, my infinite gratitude for that.
I take ingraved in me the learned lessons, from where, in their time and opportunity we will continue working from the deate and political action. I will answer the mandate of the ballots in the next political challenges.
Long live Bolivia!

https://nitter.net/AndronicoRod/status/1957266742981407023#m

>>2437363
>calling Morales a pedo.
context or proof if any (on the subject if he is a blue archive fan or not)?


>"but mostly with the more well off with european decent."

>euro nizgusz when they're not the majority.
Representation problems or not, the well off euro nizguzs wouldn't given the time of day if the Representation problems were reversed.
with shit like Libre'$ having a chance, it could make happen a "democracy" where the majority (indigenous) isn't even represented (as per usual but still), "focusing on the majority", seems like something that a neolib or centrist would use as a defense, but apparently that doesn't matter now.

>>2437479
Welp, to try to summarize 6 years of accusations in a few phrases,it begins in 2019 when Evo is in the search for his 4th mandate, that he had a child with an underage girl from the party in 2015. As everything is inmediatly politized,it grows and dies with the exile and return of MAS. In the meantime, some rightwing journos (and some feminists) denounce that he has underage girlfriends in his exile in Mexico and Argentina, that he has beaten one,etc,etc.
Anyway, when the Morales-Arce split is going on the case is revived, adding the charge of traffic of minors, since allegedly the relationship was condonned by the parents in exchange for benefits in and by the party, going in the air (vid related) where he tells an anecdote that mothers called him to have their daughters and once a minor told him that she wanted to have a child with him because you are the greatest president of our country, and a minister said to end this he should do a DNA test seems like he did not do it. And now Evo is doing a last standing in his heartland, Chapare, after being sent to jail for some time while the trial goes on. He has said that he does not want to go to jail because he will be murdered/poisoned in there.

Why would you give up power via elections

>>2437490
Any other Latin American leftist icon accused of pedo stuff or sex with the underage? I know Daniel Ortega had his own allegations.

>>2437005
>it's over

>>2437502
Those both are unique in that matter. Can not remember any other getting accused of it. Others that also lost power for not having enough power over their heads is Lugo from Paraguay, from having a child when he was a Catholic Bishop with a 24 years old.
And seems like Augusto Sandino, general of free people's of Nicaragua, had a child with the family housemaid who was there since she was a child when they both were in their twenties.
https://www.laprensani.com/2019/09/30/reportajes-especiales/2595766-la-otra-hija-del-general-augusto-c-sandino

why cant you losers get a hobby that isnt paying attention to every fucking election in every fucking country just because theyre vaguely socdem and nonwhite (and then acting surprise when the outcome is exactly the same as always)

Well, the null vote according to the electoral body is 3rd place, doing the simple math of Null+andronico+del castillo adds to 1 million 8 hundred thousand votes. First place instantly.
If anyone else wants to check
https://sirepre.oep.org.bo/national/
Also, Evo has spoken,
Emergency meeting, said that in all the rural areas the null vote won, in some middle cities null vote won. 2 weeks ago, the president anulled any party to help us, but the null vote is a punishment to the old right and the new right, with security the goverment changes the military heads for two things, fraud or flight. Check the cities, the working class areas, etc. It is historic that in a country the null vote wins, the goverment and his allies will invent anything to save their bureocrats. Although everyone was against the null vote, it has prevailed, all of our effort. I say to you that this is a democratic party, there will be no winner in first round, again, the army change was for a fraud, the day after tomorrow will be the debate, between rights they will fight? Remember that against the empire is the fight, not only Bolivia but all of latin america. I again use this to congratulate this triumph of the bolivian people were the null vote prevails, claps… Now they will appear a winning goverment with no legitimacy, with no legality, those are the results. And as leaders of the 6 federations, we will keep evaluating, gathering data from the regions. Again to the central unions, I call them for the wendsday 10am, will be 1500 leaders, it has been expanded. Congratulations … (other leaders begin to talk)

>>2437513
I am latin american, the importance of the bolivian process is that marks the coming to power of a party that was practically the electoral face of a leftwing union of unions calling for the redistributing of the means of production and in a long line of clashes between union, party and army for control of the state (read about the bolvian MNR, their left and the revolution in the fifties). The collapse of the MAS will have longlasting effect in the political discourse here, I do not know if in your sphere too anon, but in spanish media everything is Bolvia, Venezuela, Cuba ad infinitum.

So why is it that a right wing government is always one order from declaring a based and redpilled dictatoroship… But everyone to the left of them needs to play nice to the liberals until they die by a thousand cuts of self imposed class collaboration, and not shooting the right people?

How hard is it to get the mandate, expropriate the media, shoot like… 200-300 rich people tops and then have an unopposed mandate because you can afford all the populism in the world to buy the masses? The right never does this last part and it works fine for them.

>>2437490
>"a child with him because you are the greatest president of our country"
fan-fic sounding ass bullshit.

But like anyone even talked to the minor in question at this point, and was she the one that's actually accusing him (ignoring the fact that it went from one kid to now multiple)? if that wasn't the case to began with, that's just suspicious.

>Jail because he will be murdered/poisoned in there.

i'm pretty sure that was the goal regardless, but if you're branded as a blue archive fan you will get at least beat up, so you don't even to set anything up in prison, just have a sham kangaroo Court and let the prisoners do the rest for free, if there was a plan for him.

>DNA test

dodgy for him, but the nizzga got ass almost a target to get gunned (at least later on), it's not really surprising he did submit anything. i mean it does seems to be maybe needed, but the question is they're going to tamper with anything or not. And that depends on how rampant the corruption is in they're judicial system.

>>2437509
>Spanish people throwing a fib over consenting adults
ok. The Sandino part sounds a bit dodgy tho.

>>2437517
> read about the bolvian MNR, their left and the revolution in the fifties
NTA, but I’ve tried and there’s very little in English, I wish my brain was better with languages being Enflish only limits you so much

The choices are now the Libre (MNR) candidate and the “Christian Democrats” (creemos coupmongering racists)

>>2437517
<electoralism is a problem, but proletarians should vote anyway just because my petty-bourgeois life will get more comfortable

>>2437725
I think you are wrong anon, was not Doria the MNR? I think we got center right (CD) vs right (Tuto was a Banzer minion)
>>2437599
Because no one wants to do an autarky by being forced into isolation with a violent contra or a civil war up their asses, specially when there is no USSR to big brother it.
>>2437707
Yeah, I saw that they interviewed her, (check Dnews) but she is not accusing him, that is the difference, the judicials are prosecuting him ex officio, just because they have to. and since they are done in the exterior, I bet their laws don't apply, but as politics always are in the water in Milei's Argentina an investigation was opened for it, supported of course by his rivals from Santa Cruz
https://www.dw.com/es/abren-causa-penal-contra-evo-morales-por-trata-en-argentina/a-70670711

>>2437725
>>2437437
only the based coupmongering sucdems can save us now

>>2437513
gay bait, do you not see the /latam/ on top.

>>2438176 (me)
But both are right wing neoliberal social democrats. Bolivian parties have that mania for a right wing turn
<Libre (Tuto) is conformed by and alliance of Revolutionary Front of the Left and the Social Democrat Union.
I can't anymore lmao
>Garcia two months ago: We said before that we will not have another Lenin Moreno, and look now, we are a photocopy of Correa and Moreno.
His great wisdom, "guys don't fight + don't hide the program with party fights, have courtesy with the people because one bad decision, one bad word by the leader has effects on 30-40 million people"
Words to live by, control you actions anons

>>2437707
also if pizzagate-type shit hold any wight and that would be disappointing. It was one of the only leaders that didn't suck in the interviews, news and other videos, when comparing to the rest in latam.
This has happen before but with shit like mayor milk, but one of the victim went out of the woodwork themselves
and there's the claim from youtube and twitter with a teen named "Jack McKinley":
"he sexually abused a 16 year old drug addicted runaway who later killed himself due to being riddled with a veritable buffet of mental illness"
also he was in a relationship with a 17 year old Joe Campbell that reddit defense for some reason but that's unsurprising. that info was a bit out in the pubic unlike the first two.
it's hard to find these sources, and google seems to be shadow banning info about it.

>>2438176
>>2437363
>"saw a lot of graffiti and fliars calling Morales a pedo."
>"they interviewed her"
>"she is not accusing him"
>"the judicials are prosecuting him ex officio, just because they have to."
yeah, this does seem to be amber Heard foul play shit. They wanted to make the accusation so he can be barred to do anything.
the few times were we know that type of story in the accusation shit here, that most likely happen in Mainstream opinion (recently), was with Ezra Miller.

>>2438245
>also if pizzagate-type shit hold any wight and that would be disappointing
also if that pizzagate-type shit hold any weight, that would be disappointing. Evo was one of the only leaders that didn't suck in the interviews, news and other videos, when comparing to the rest in latam.

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>>2439371
>first image
based center right sucdems will save us

Why the bolivian left doesn't maduro it and cancel the elections until the boxes are stuffed and they win, are they stupid?

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>>2439670
Because in this country we respect the sanctity of the ballot god you REDACTED REDACTED heathen

Time for a self coup


>>2439670
>>2439817
like that would make evo any less of a libtard in general or his programme any less leftoid

pseuds will talk about le systemic whatever and then be like ohhhhh this public figure would be le perfect communist if only they had a different belief or acted differently on this one single issue

>>2443293
Just a rant about how Evo did a big shit. No mention of Arce or Andronico and the eocnomical factor.
The board has a better analysis lol


>>2435031
>>2435113
Andrónico best girl

>idpol

how.
sad if that's ture


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