It seems it's harder for people to form genuine connections but and it is evidently more pronounced with women who are more likely to consume SSRI medication and are more likely to experience obesity
>>2434194Unironically encourage them to overdose on these meds and fucking die if they're gonna be stupid
I ain't got time to explain to an entire demographic who wants to complain about loneliness the real realities of alienation just to be called incel regardless. The incels are the proletariat. We need black pill panthers. It's always black, Indian, and short men who get screwedmanyway not just in dating but employment and social interaction as a whole.
Jewish men to. Noone wants to talk about how the totality of anti semitism is misandrist. Everyone wants Khazari milkers but noone trusts a rabbi who takes his religion seriously. Guess which one is more likely a Zionist? Not the rabbi.
So they can just swallow a whole bottle of pills and die. Fuckem. Relationships are simple y'all just make them difficult. All of you.
One of my most valued relationships was with this trans reactionary girl whom was militantly vegan. To this day she still lives rent free in my head and I'd marry her on the spot. which I shouldn't. She left me in the most idiotic of ways detransitioning and believing all this nonsense so she should fall down unlimited stairs, but there's no way I could resist her allure. I ain't made of stone.
Than another ex more recent, she's cute but really dumb. I think at most we just kinda say one word sentences to each other and than fuck. Granted we fucked so much it seems like there was more to the relationship. I'm talking like three times a day every day. Like she was a beast. This isn't just humble bragging, my point is too many zoomers just wanna be goon cattle.
Reason I loved the trans was the moments we shared doing nothing at all. Just existing together and building a life together. Watch shows together, pay our taxes, etc. That was the girl I was gonna spend the rest of my life with and schizo Nazi shit about demon parasites making you trans killed her
>>2434283Doesn't solve female unrealistic standards.
The average woman's sexual desires haven't really evolved from the hunter gatherer age despite men's testosterones level plummeting. The average male today is practically a female in the eyes of most women. They just don't have that barbarian hunter gatherer allure. They're mostly chubby nerds.
>>2434215This
And I'm traditionally attractive as well
>>2434312Well reddit losers think I'm 8/10 and I got creeps wanting to groom me in DMs
That's the extent of that
>>2434324I mean one of my coworkers once admitted to me that her and another coworker were praising my looks behind my back (I wasn't attracted to either + I don't fuck w coworkers) I also get the casual compliments in regards to my fashion
Bro if you're broke unaccomplished and not too outgoing no one is going to want you sry bruh it isn't the looks you're just a loser
>>2434333I'd groom you bebe gurl
Less sexually more like, teach you how to construct a makeshift fart tube to torture exes and moderators. Fart tube is the nickname of the invention where I take old hoses and parts to essentially make jannies have to smell my smelly Shelly braps and vomit all over the place
I failed to consider however the user of the device. Ironically our farts wouldn't work as they just smell like roses and being right all the time
>>2434334>I mean one of my coworkers once admitted to me that her and another coworker were praising my looks behind my backOk that's a much better example of your attractiveness than people's opinions on reddit
>(I wasn't attracted to either + I don't fuck w coworkersLooking a gifted horse in the mouth and still complaining about being lonely, smh anon
>Bro if you're broke unaccomplished and not too outgoing no one is going to want you sry bruh it isn't the looks you're just a loserI'm broke as fuck, literally a minimum wage deadend job with zero prospects and I fuck all the time. The trick is to not be socially retarded, which is what you mean by being "outgoing" I guess (and be attractive helps, but we already covered that)
>>2434336Skill issue, just go and find one, it's not that difficult
>>2434380Well as a guy you're disadvantaged on dating apps, the *average* male match ratio on tinder is something like one in a hundred swipes, but you should be able to go on some dates every once in a while if you're getting at least some matches. Dating apps are horrid for the male psyche tho, you cannot take that shit too seriously. Would recommend getting a woman friend/acquaintance to look at your profile and try to see what they think, select some photos for you n shit for you, of course working out the conversation and getting girls to go on a date with you is tougher, especially if you're not that confident in your ability to do that. But of a self feeding cycle in that way. It's a bit of a fake it till you make it kinda situation
But I'm telling you anon, if you're not too ugly and you know how to hold a decent conversation with someone you can get a woman to become your gf, I swear it to you. But it is tough out there I know, especially on dating apps as a guy
Not many hetero couples are meeting these days, with all the simping modern men do hoeflation is the highest it's ever been, along with the proliferation of OF and online prostitution, women know their 'value' and set their prices accordingly sky high; don't settle for anything less than tall, handsome Chads. It doesn't help that women are on average egotistical and self-absorbed. In my life I've rarely seen men as drunk on their own fumes as women are. Not just in the flesh 'market', but also in careers and general life decisions. They think, behave and speak like they internalized this idea that they will get what they want, everything will be delivered to them, it's all promised to them, and they *deserve* it and are never unqualified or unworthy of the reward, whatever it may be. I've never seen a blatantly incompetent hoe saying she's not cut out for an IT or software engineering job, they always have this preconception that it doesn't really matter and they'll make it, and at this turn the discourse almost always defaults to a story about some Stacy friend who made it at some workplace. On the other side of the dividing line, I've seen countless dudes, who despite being hardworking overachievers, taking digs at themselves nonstop, fully believing that they need to get better, and never reaching a state of full confidence in their competencies. There is a near complete absence of the hubris I see in women here, though there's a few men who 'game' the system and cut through with fake results till they make it, but even those are cut above women since, inspite of their penchant to lie, have the ability to substantiate their lies and carve their path instead of being fully expectant of their success being served to them on a silver platter.
This overconfidence women have naturally encompasses their outlook to dating. They are narcissistic, always demand, expect and believe they deserve the best, refuse to concede or settle, and carry themselves with unwarranted self importance. They're basically boomer landlords (if she roastie).(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2434477zamn where'd you get this incel ass comment?
grok, kys.
>>2434484>incelI have bitches on me all the time, I had to shut them out to focus on myself.
She's not gonna see this, btw.
>>2434713unironically what's wrong with being an early 20s broke but handsome guy looking for a lonely sugar mommy? It's a match made in heaven you can only appeal to bourgeois morality and traditional family structure to discredit such a relationship.
Actually while writing this I just remembered that the gender reverse of this is much more common and insanely exploitative also Marx critique of commodification of relationships etc
But I still live in a society and already sell myself in the form of wage labor so
>>2434477If mods keep banning posts like these I would like anyone who keeps making "We need to work on moving more men into the left!" Posts to be banned as well.
That is all.
>>2434802Not what I said you dumb faggot, I said verbatim quoting from my own post
>If mods keep banning posts like theseMeaning they can do whatever the fuck they want
>I would like anyone who keeps making "We need to work on moving more men into the left!" Posts to be banned as well.That's all I ask for.
No matter how unemployed brain worm infected that post might have been many of its points are correct, and while it can do without the "roastie" at the end, more and more men are agreeing with it because
it's right and they're seeing it in the material conditions driving them further to the right.
So it's simple:
If these posts are going to get banned on here then please ban "We need left masculinity to bring men back" cope posts.
It's clear that the moment any man gives actual grievance that the actual
material issues they experience are things the mods nor a good chunk of the user base care for.
Now if you fell for the retarded "Men are moving away from the left because we look to estrogenic!" you're an idiot and it will never help.
For one masculinity is a spook, for two almost any attempt to use masculinity is by a 12-14 year old target viewer base scammer like Andrew Tate, after 14 most men realize "Wait no amount of working hard will be able to save me if women want genetic predisposition to taller height and facial mass" aside from making enough money to get gold diggers, a expressly capitalist concept.
So again if the mods and users like you make it clear you don't actually want to solve the problem then at least do us all the favor of banning discussion around men as a target base as a whole, because Hasan nor Yugopnik or whoever are ever going to be able to properly bait in men, who are going to focus more on their own self interest because no real help can be found within the left.
At this point the best thing /leftypol/ can be is a book club with /isg/ and generals non stop and purely axiomatic posts regarding economics only. Because it sure as shit isn't going to be helping anyone. So any discussion related to it will go
nowhere. >>2434836And you're a literal retard who cannot spell misogynist properly.
Incel slop is going to co-align more and more with the issues men are facing more and more every day, shit they actually care about not "Not looking like pussies with purple hair I tell you h'wat."
>people that want to work to move men to the left don't. It's really that simple.And they will accomplish nothing because they are out of touch with the average man and have fallen for right wing propaganda more than incels have ironically so.
I'm not here to argue with you, you're an ignorant in denial asinine dipshit which is why I said discussion about this goes nowhere, but do me the favor of at least not pretending you care about men just to boost your numbers against some right wing civil war that will never happen because you will never incite shit to begin with at this rate.
>>2434853>>2434856I am a hardcore socialist, I guarantee you I read more about Marx and his ideas than you have or any other theorist as a matter of fact.
I don't believe it's any benefit for leftists to try and appeal in a defanged "Ignore the inter conflict inflammatory facts that affect two distinct bio classes like race or sex" type of way to certain groups especially when the problem is that with modern men it's not 2013 anymore, and if you aren't vibing with incelism, don't bother trying at all, it's just stupid and will go nowhere.
The sheer fact this thread exists while some journalist at NYT is writing about sum' "Will Hasan bring back men through left wing masculinity?" Just goes to show how out of touch everyone is, this would have been useful a decade ago, not now.
>>2434845Just because YOU agree with his incel shit you fucking moron, doesn't mean that this idealist nonsense is in any way a proper understanding of the material forces at play or that it should be treated as such or that the average man is a retarded fucking incel like you and the other anon. It's so fucking obvious you are some kind of socially retarded recluse who bases his view of the real world on what other retards post on the internet and a fucking reactionary at heart
God I hate fucking arrogant morons like you, no analysis no right to speak, honestly kill yourself
>>2434867Accelerationism is gonna get us there, I'm taking a page out of Xi's playbook and doing nothing to win, like Marx said part of what will get us there is worsening social conditions, and the growing gap between sexes is part of it, I'm not going to take action, I just find the idea of trying in a blatant limp dicked fashion stupid.
>>2434869Good to see you're still here having an autistic meltdown over the fact that you're being called out. For a moment I almost thought the other guys were you mellowing out but I'm glad you're still as autistic as ever.
>doesn't mean that this idealist nonsense is in any way a proper understanding of the material forces at play or that it should be treated as such or that the average man is a retarded fucking incel like you and the other anon.Except 60% of men under 30 are single compared to 30% of women at the same age.
The pay gap is inversing and on the womens side it's clear passive income with their bodies and likeness is exponentially more profitable than hard labor.
Likewise they gradually contribute to the state of men indirectly.
I can't get you a full Marxist text explaining why nor will one exist any time soon but it's clear those are real problems and the fact that incels have the balls to say it while everyone else is in denial goes to show how doomed retards like you who think you can softly bait men back into the left that way by pretending everything is fine and "Fascism is a ideology of aesthetics." is going to crash and burn badly.
This is again
a warning. Not an insult, not an argument it is a warningYou can listen or you can ignore me, but if you don't want to do either, then at least shut up and stop putting on the worlds least effective psy op.
>>2434871Yes and that led to the eventual development of patriarchy, good job preventing it from happening again my uyghas. I won't do shit.
>>2434870Violent armed struggle globally is the only way otherwise it will happen naturally.
>>2434884Monogamy existed prior to patriarchy and agriculture.
>>2434886Agricultural settlements after the paleolithic in the neolithic led to the creation of property as opposed to the communal sharing of kills that hunter gatherer nomadic tribes had.
>>2434880Of course you wont do shit you bish ass niyugha
>i know more theory than you therefore im a socialistYou aint. You arent even a party worker i bet
>>2434891>>2434887In order to do that you would also need to purge people like
>>2434892 who won't stop having autistic meltdowns about incels or gender relations as well so they don't act like corpses to flies, this means that discussion on Yugopnik and Hasan types also need to be banned, and sadly sincere good (But still idpol) theory like Solanas or Dworkin would also need to go.
Man who cares. The next generations are going to trccn out via gender acceleration anyway and earth will become one giant shit stained lesbian polycule, problem solved, no more loneliness epidemic.
>>2434880You trccn out you high autism score trccn
>>2434931Prostitution isn't related to what incels want or men as a whole.
>>2434928Women earning more is going to be an issue especially if they still expect men to earn more than them.
>I too hate dealing with female bosses. Its like they are more antagonistic or somethingNow see everything I just said was statistical, this right here is an actual good example of what misogyny is and the retard above will stay dead silent on it.
>>2434934Truth ICBM
Ban gender discussions on /leftypol/ as a whole, word filter men and women, plain and simple. Not socialist. Don't bring it up if you don't want to be serious.
>>2434944If and only if women accept that now men have to be the house husbands and they have to be the earners, but they don't.
>Not an issue yetThe education and income gap between people under 30 is cited as a reason that this is happening, boomers are safe.
>>2434952Yup.
Basically it's over and there isn't much we can do about it, so who gives a shit, just ban all discussion about it no matter how it's worded as idpol is my point.
>>2434194all women are queens, they deserve to be worshipped.
i'll make sure they're never alone again.
>>2434695Yes, it isn't completely unconditional, but it is unconditional regarding looks (if you mean real friends) and needing to have physical contact is not a condition. I mean that if you feel lonely, your main option nowadays is to find a romantic partner, as there aren't nowhere near as many friend finding sites or apps. You need to be attractive and be attracted for that, you also need to kiss and have sex with the person, be monogamous, these all are conditions that friendship doesn't have.
>>2434711Again, a perfect example how talk about loneliness is always turned to sex and dating in case of women. Not everyone wants that. And yes, usually these women aren't attractive.
>>2434721 Again, the condition is to have sex with them. It is trading sex for friendship, which is like prostitution.
>>2435109>loneliness is always turned to sex and datingThe two aren't mutually exclusive.
>usually these women aren't attractiveMy mom is in her 40s, hits the gym and takes care of herself. More women need to be as classy as her if they hope to find love (my mom is single idk)
>>2435459>My mom is in her 40sWhat are you 12?
Also gimme her number and let me hit her up
>>2435516>doesn't deny being a fag who wants my mom to rail his bussyalso statistically improbable
>>2435510>>2435517see
>>2435495>>2435528The only shot worth it is the one I'm busting all over your mama
>>2435535>Only she puts a strap onMaybe if you beg and are luck enough
>I'm gonna nail her back pussy, her front pussy, and her face pussy.Enough about me and your mommy tho
>>2434194I think this is a blatant example of the social atomization that capitalism has created. If you think about it, social media has been shoved down our throats to such a sickening degree to a point where it has now influenced our social interactions with eachother, encouraging us to be performative for the sake of clout as opposed to genuinely forming human connections with eachother.
In a recent study put forward by Columbia University Irving Centre:
https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/just-how-harmful-social-media-our-experts-weigh
<Although there are important benefits, social media can also provide platforms for bullying and exclusion, unrealistic expectations about body image and sources of popularity, normalization of risk-taking behaviors, and can be detrimental to mental health. Girls and young people who identify as sexual and gender minorities can be especially vulnerable as targets. Young people’s brains are still developing, and as individuals, young people are developing their own identities. What they see on social media can define what is expected in ways that is not accurate and that can be destructive to identity development and self-image. Adolescence is a time of risk-taking, which is both a strength and a vulnerability. Social media can exacerbate risks, as we have seen played out in the news.
<For those vulnerable to developing an eating disorder, social media may be especially unhelpful because it allows people to easily compare their appearance to their friends, to celebrities, even older images of themselves. Research tells us that how much someone engages with photo-related activities like posting and sharing photos on Facebook or Instagram is associated with less body acceptance and more obsessing about appearance. For adolescent girls in particular, the more time they spend on social media directly relates to how much they absorb the idea that being thin is ideal, are driven to try to become thin, and/or overly scrutinize their own bodies. Also, if someone is vulnerable to an eating disorder, they may be especially attracted to seeking out unhelpful information—which is all too easy to find on social media.So combine THAT with idea that you have these "alpha bros" and right wing grifters who are also fucking with young men, no shit they're going to be more vulnerable to social atomisation, that they become more isolated from talking to eachother. Now thankfully we have institutions to debunk the propaganda, but given how deep the pockets of fascists can be they're going to be screwing us over for quite some time.
Sadly, this isn't a new phenomenon and has been an ever increasing one. Bookchin points this out in "Our Synthetic Enivornment" in reference to urban life:
"<Actually, the urban dweller today is more isolated in the big city than his ancestors were in the countryside. The city man in the modern metropolis has reached a degree of anonymity, social atomization, and spiritual isolation that is virtually unprecedented in human history. Today man's alienation from man is almost absolute. His standards of co-operation, mutual aid, simple human hospitality, and decency have suffered an appalling amount of erosion in the urban milieu. Man's civic institutions have become cold, impersonal agencies for the manipulation of his destiny, and his culture has increasingly accommodated itself to the least common denominator of intelligence and taste.”
This in the
fucking cities. Centres of cosmopolitanism and social spaces, cultural diversity and an open plethora of people and places to go and see. And this was written in the 1960s. So sadly, things haven't changed much. But in terms of the "loneliness" this is also an illusion-
The absolutely isolated individual has always been an illusion. The most esteemed personal qualities, such as independence, will to freedom, sympathy, and the sense of justice, are social as well as individual virtues. The fully developed individual is the consummation of a fully developed society. The emancipation of the individual is not an emancipation from society, but the deliverance of society from atomization, an atomization that may reach its peak in periods of collectivization and mass culture."
"The notion of "independence," which is often confused with independent thinking and autonomy of behavior, has been so marbled by pure bourgeois egoism that we tend to forget that our freedom as individuals depends heavily on community support systems and solidarity. It is not by childishly subordinating ourselves to the community on the one hand or by detaching ourselves from it on the other that we become authentically human. What distinguishes us as social beings, hopefully with rational institutions, from solitary beings,
presumably with minimal or no institutions, are our capacities for solidarity with each other, for mutually enhancing our self-development and creativity and attaining freedom within a socially creative and institutionally rich collectivity"
In other words, it's not wrong to feel lonely, but loneliness is a capitalist ploy made to further alienate eachother not only from the MOP but from society and ourselves.
Think about it: social spaces such as libraries and parks and LGBTQ centres are consistently under attack by right wing forces. A glaring example is that found in the USA.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/10/19/university-lgbtq-centers-disappearing/71147364007/https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/2025/03/19/tracking-the-trump-administrations-attacks-on-libraries/ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czx7kez4vx2oThis administration is literally trying to prevent you and your friends from touching grass, taking class, and tapping ass.
These are places where communities and like minded people engage, and instead of having any social aspirations to collectively create- you have a whole generation of wanna-be youtubers, encouraging a life of hapless consumerism and sedentary activity.
So what's the solution? Unironically, encouraging people to touch grass and form social groups both online and offline, and actually encourage friends to be better socially as opposed to clowning on them for being socially awkward. Another aspect which can help in this form of mental health is encouraging physical exercise. As socialists, we ought to be
socialising, that means improving your rhetoric, covertly performing your own mass-line and organising social events from waxing poetic at pubs, to starting a fitness club, or just working on the friendships you have and encouraging group activity.
CREATE SOCIAL SPACES, encourage their use, and fight like hell to preserve the ones that exist. Simultaneously, one must practice vigilance to prevent this social atomisation from spreading. The more lonely we are, the more the fascists will win.
Bookchin writes in urbanisation without cities the sort of communities ancient athens had, as a means to create a truly participatory system (incredibly flawed as it was)
<The Athenian citizen would have mocked the entrenched bourgeois myth that the free man is an atomized buyer and seller whosechoices are constrained by his own psychological and physical infirmities. He would have seen beyond the arrogance of this self-deception into the pathos of the bourgeois citizen's clientage to the powerful, his aimless pursuit of wealth, his reduction of life to the acquisition of things… Such a despised bourgeois being, he would have concluded, is no less archaic than the Erinyes, who must be freed from
their primality as mere forces and reconstructed by reason and justice into the "kindly ones."
<To the Hellenic citizen of a polis, leaving all its mythic origins aside, the monad would have seemed as prehuman as the folk community seemed prepolitical. Individuality meant citizenship. And, ideally, citizenship meant the personal wholeness that came from deep roots in tradition, a complexity of social bonds, richly articulated civic relationships, shared festivals, philia, freedom from clientage and freedom forcollective self-determination through institutions that fostered the full participation and everyday practice of a creative body politic.
To be such a citizen, one had to live in a polis-a city that possessed an agora, a space to convene general assemblies of the people, a theater to dramatize the reality and ideology of freedom, and the ceremonial squares, avenues, and temples that gave it reverential meaning. To remove any of these elements that made up this whole was to instantly destroy it.
These fascists want to stop you going to drag shows, saunas, libraries, reading clubs and keep you as tik-tok addled zombies with little to no game. They want to turn you into soulless /v/irgins and misanthropes. The woman in the video deserves better, but her tears can only get her so far. Such loneliness means she's either gonna turn into some redscare IT girl, or wind up digesting some bourgoise feminist schlock. It sucks starting a new friend group, but it can be done- so long as you focus on achieving quality, not quantity.
tl;dr
TOUCH GRASS, AND ENCOURAGE YOUR FRIENDS TO DO SO. ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE VULNERABLE WITH EACHOTHER. ONLY THROUGH THE FIRES OF FRIENDSHIP WILL WE STAND A CHANCE OF STOPPING FASCISM >>2434426Those guys are the biggest fucking losers I've ever had the misfortune of meeting.
imagine not challenging yourself to do outdoor shit with an enthusiastic human being who loves life.
>>2435607>First paragraphIf I wasn't happily in a relationship I'd try this and refer to everyone as chat to rizz girls
I already yell GROK IS THIS TRUE when disagree
Grok is this Jason Unruhe lol
>>2435612My skidmarks are basically the Mona Lisa.
Maybe more Picaso, her skidmarks Mona Lisa.
>>2435554When I say every mod brother I mean EVERY SINGLE MOD
>>2435550Sweet summer child
>>2435510If his mom is in her 40s he could easily be 20+
>>2436110the fact this thread has been up for three days and left up despite posts within it being deleted only show how much the jannies have no real interest in this site except explicitly to make it worse.
Part of me suspects some of the jannies are /pol/acks amongus or something.
>>2435607>Those guys are the biggest fucking losers I've ever had the misfortune of meetingThat's the problem boomer most men nowadays are losers.
Jesus Christ it's sad that /leftypol/ can get it through their thick fucking skulls. Like
>>2434491 said this is bourgeoisie adventurism slop that only exists in the golden age of first world capitalist nations.
If any of those men had the balls they'd stand up and go "No Rylie, no one here wants to because you're an entitled woman child who confuses being outdoors for building character. It's a dog whistle that you want rich Chads and not a actual lover. Sit back down and do better."
>>2437462also,
>reproductive, emotional and sexual laborlove to turn labor into an abstraction that can then be applied to literally anything and then equate them all with each other. fucking moron
>>2434412Dating websites should be owned by the state and they should be designed for matchmaking. The current system is simply encouraging those to stay single and keep browsing in the app.
Meanwhile in an actual socialist country:
https://youtu.be/xLDFSmfKT9k?si=9KesQC2Z8lSgtzuH >>2437467I agree it's not exactly commodity production, i was turning their rhetoric back on them, yet the tendency of women to perform this labor is undeniable and the basis for marxist feminism.
>>2437469All of those are very real things:
>chores still primarily being a female job, varying by country>women being expected more to regulate their emotions and potentially act as a therapist to their emotionally stunted boyfriend>marital rape >>2437378In class society, ruling class ideology and way of life are considered the only "true way to live" and the vast majority of the population never had anything to do with what we today consider the culture of the times. The tales that we have from the ancient times are nearly all about kings and gods instead of anything remotely close to what the average person had to deal with.
Nearly all of our myths and historical documents are about ruling class parasites like Helen of Troy, Trajan, King Arthur, Marie Antoinette, etc. It does get better the closer we get to modern times, but this trend continues to this day. Culture is shaped predominantly by the ruling class, I'm afraid.
The presumption that other left-wing anons have when responding to you is that you are talking about actual relationships the majority of working class people have, but you are not.
Of course "the woman" as culture paints her is bourgeois in bourgeois society, just as "the man" is. Just look up all the newer tv series, manga and books women love so much, you'd think working class men don't exist at all if you consumed them. At least Hollywood was focusing on labor aristocrats instead of actual aristocrats. This is probably a symptom of the decline of the labor aristocracy and "middle class".
Just as working class men can be deluded into thinking that they are temporarily embarassed billionaires, women can be deluded into thinking that they are temporarily embarassed billionaire's wives and while I don't have the numbers on that, I think it's reasonable enough to presume that this is quite common. That seems to be your issue, and on that I would agree, it sure sucks that women can become delusional. But these millions of men and women are wrong, they statistically will always remain working class, they statistically won't ever get that loyal sugar daddy.
The answer to your problem is to not have relationships with delusional people.
>>2437478If it were up to me, government would impose huge taxations on anyone making even midly decent income just to demoralize middle class Amerikkka where we recreate ebt to provide free alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. Like if you wanna eat, steal it. That's what the gun is for retardo.
Minors can get this new EBT too just too put all the Trots in a moralist panic that their wholesome chungus 17.5 age daughters are doing naughty things like drinking and smoking
They're also twerking for the vanguard which isn't them and never will be them because we rig elections. Only kkkomunist parties count. CPeePeePooPooUSA is a socdem party, invalid.
>>2437744How?
Like I'm willing to hear an explanation. Explain to me how as a man my life is so much better than yours
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