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In the previous discussions with mates in leftypol, the most contentious part has been regarding Democracy.

The mainstream view on this forum is one of distrust towards Western electoral systems, holding that electoralism is nothing more than an art of misleading and deception, with greater preference for vanguardism.

Yet as a resident of China, a citizen who has been ruled by the vanguard all my life, I loathe the fact that the government fails to hear our songs and ignore our criticism and supervision.

Yeah, I can see, what is happening in Taiwan, where there is full of chaos and hardly something in progress. It's true that the western system is uneffcient and corrupt, but changeable and reviseable, different from autocracy.

Anyway, I'm sorry that a director, which you prefer, with great authority, has come into power already, in the USA, whose name is DJT.
Or, what you like is a director you like, instead of a director you dislike?
Then how can we make sure about it?

Power can change a person, from head to toes. You may like someone before ther're in charge, but you cannot take them down after they come into power. They may cheat, they may lie, but no way you can regret, withnot democracy.

How many MAGAs are there, who voted for Trump, and got upsetted by his behaviour and policy afterwards? Ones those believe in socialism and hope for a leader, is not that different from the Republicans, are they? They want a GOP, Grand Old Party as well. The mere diversity lies in the specific.

>We want no condescending saviors

>To rule us from a judgment hall;
>We workers ask not for their favors;
>Let us consult for all.
>from The Internationale

Democracy is the basis of socialism and commuinism. If it is granted, anything else follows.

PS: Some suspects that I am not Chinese but a employee to spread misinformation. I write in Chinese in the photogragh uploaded on purposs.

你好

If we had an answer to this all the world's problems would be solved

One thing I have noticed is in western societies, and I assume this is true to a greater of lesser extent in China is that even when the official wants to do a good job they are often overwhelmed by what's on their plate and make bad decisions that make things far worse in the long term in order to solve the issue on front of them

I don't know

>>2434970
*greater or lesser, not "greater of lesser"

>ignore our criticism and supervision
local authorities are like "I have power over the cosmic bureaucracy, my paperwork is God" (t-poses to assert dominance over the heavens)
>what you like is a director you like, instead of a director you dislike?
The shitlib reaciion to the Trump-Putin thing is kind of funny:
<2014 neoliberals: "Ukraine's democratically elected president is too soft on Putin, we need the CIA to overthrow him for the kind of democracy that we want"
<2025 neoliberals: "America's democratically elected president is too soft on Putin, we need the CIA to overthrow him for the kind of democracy that we want"

liberals do not want a democracy, look at how they went full totalitarian and are censoring the internet (to protect Israel?)

>>2434979
They do not while I do.
The problem is that, are you sure the elected president does act as the will of people? In my view, voters in the USA are voting for a king, all the time, instead of a representative.

>I have power over the cosmic bureaucracy, my paperwork is God

I am sorry for not understanding.

>>2435104
“voting for a king”, means voting for someone in order to get the person into power, while the power is so wide and vast like a dictator or king.
I find it strange while re-reading it, for my first tongue is not English.

>the western system is uneffcient and corrupt, but changeable and reviseable
I don't think so. Western constitutions are resistant to change
>How many MAGAs are there, who voted for Trump, and got upsetted by his behaviour and policy afterwards?
Trump, and trump supporters are a bad example because Trump's base are cult of personality. And has a huge network of propaganda, proped up by capitalist money.
>Democracy is the basis of socialism and commuinism. If it is granted, anything else follows.
Maybe, but western electoralism won't bring democracy. Aristotle a Greek philosopher made a point about elections not being democratic, but are in fact system for oligarchy. True democracy according to Aristotle is the rule of the poor, and selection by sortition. My advice is don't look to the western political systems for inspiration. You would only make the same mistakes as the late USSR did. And repeat the outcomes what the "western" systems are currently doing.

I think Kropotkin has some answers for you.

>Democracy is the basis of socialism and commuinism
<implying theres only special universal true democracy
why are radlibs so retarded


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