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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

I grow to hate FDR more and more everyday. There was so much damn potential and this socdem scumbag ruined everything. FDR singlehandedly set back the course of world history one hundred years.

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>>2439701
>I grow to hate FDR more and more everyday … FDR singlehandedly set back the course of world history one hundred years.
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>>2439705
Japan couldn't be imperialist because the good guys (USSR) declared war on them (at the last moment possible)

>>2439705
Honestly, I completely forgot about Japan. TBH it was an over-hyped feudal shit hole at the time and was mostly defeated by the Chinese.

This shit was far more about shitting on bourgeois reformists over anything else.

>>2439701
He was the last president to actually understand capitalism. But as a bourgeois politician that made him effective in managing it and preventing revolution. "Luckily" for us that kind of burger politician does not and cannot exist anymore.

>>2439741
People need to realize that Japan was crashing out by the 40s and their divided war machine between the army and navy was tearing the empire apart. Japan's pearl harbor attack was a hail mary intended to somehow force the Americans into negotiations. The Soviets crushed the Imperial Army in Manchuria and Korea once the fascists in the West were dealt with. A similar situation would have happened without American intervention. All it would have done if America did not intervene is their sphere of influence in SEA and East Asia would not be there and the entire region would be red

>>2439701
>socdem
YIMBY Zionists in the Abundance movement: "actually housing segregation is good for Palestinians, I mean blacks"

>>2439818
If Japan never went to war with America its likely that the USSR never would have invaded Manchuria in the first place. They had a non-aggression Pact with Japan and only went to war with them to fulfill the promises they made to the Western Allies. Even if they did, Japan wouldn't have surrendered just because they were driven out of Northeast Asia. With the IJN intact the Soviets wouldn't he able to do anything to them once they won on land so they would probably just negotiate a peace.

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The Two Roosevelts actually both saved Capitalism from itself.

Teddy Roosevelt turned the clock back on monopoly by trust busting, effectively preventing total monopolization of capital, which leads to state capitalism, which sets the stage for socialist revolution in an advanced country (according to Lenin).


Franklin Roosevelt saved the ruling class from provoking revolution by doing the New Deal and giving enough concessions to shut workers up for a few more decades.

>>2439710
Sorry they were too busy fighting and recovering from the largest war in human history

>>2439741
>was mostly defeated by the Chinese
Lol what?

*braaaaap
Interesting!

>>2439705
💎💎💎

>>2439851
post the scroll
i have indirectly contributed to it by my many deng misquote baits on here

don't hate FDR for destroying potential, hate earl browder for cooperating with the dems and william foster for collaborating with the FBI during the peak of the red scare to fuck over some trotskyists in your party

>>2439741
>and was mostly defeated by the Chinese
Bro Japan raped China

>>2439701
He was a socdem who succeded im his mission, saving capitalism in the long term.

>>2440146
Only because Chiang's strategy was to get the US to bail it out. If the Americans weren't coming, and Chiang had his back to the wall, the Japanese would have run out of ammo.

>>2439851
People say the death of capitalism is inevitable, but people like the Roosevelts make me think otherwise. In theory, it would be possible to keep capitalism on a leash perpetually, yanking it back temporarily every time it encounters a crisis, and it's something that communists must be weary of. It's not like I'm making this up, either; Keynesianism was invented pretty explicitly for this purpose.

>>2465931
>People say the death of capitalism is inevitable, but people like the Roosevelts make me think otherwise.
Man China is gonna destroy you then.

>>2465942
China could still theoretically be Soviet-Unioned by Xi's successor.

I'm not talking about likely or unlikely, by the way, I'm talking about possible and impossible. Nothing is inevitable and we must always stay cognizant of that.

>>2465931
No because investing in social services and so on socialize production further and lowers the rate of profit through taxes or otherwise. We don't think about it but roads, telephone lines and other kinds of infrastructure are part of the means of production. So socdem stuff inevitably forces the empire into increasing exploitation (or outsourcing which just socializes production further). Socdem stuff just causes the rate of profit to fall further (which is why it is unpopular with imperialists) which in turn leads to a new crisis of overproduction later on.

>>2439770
it is kinda crazy how hard burger politicians fell off I can't imagine anyone in this current generation of political elites pulling off the kinda shit FDR and Kissinger were doing without massively fucking up.


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