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I hate how the right constantly claims ownership over Masculinity!

It’s so fucking stupid how the Right claims that it’s the left that is “Soy and Gay” when they literally voted for a president who is the soyest, fattest, bitch on the planet. I could get into how the term “Masculine” is wishy washy or whatever but I would rather go with their terminology so I can disprove it. Even if they are a right winger that doesn’t like Trump this extend just to establishment republicans this extends to the far right as well, fascism is a suicidal ideology invented by a fat bald Italian bozo in which the cucked masses allow one leader to walk all over them. The right are the soy ones and the left are the chads. The right is so fucking cucked, Female anti-feminists are literally advocating for men to boss them around, Black White nationalists are advocating for White people to boss them around, and middle class capitalists are advocating for billionaires to boss them around. Being a cucked sycophant isn’t really a masculine trait last time I checked but being strong and standing up to the oppressors is.

Guy on the left hated homosexuals btw

>>2449021
He had the same general view on lgbt as every other hetero at the time, but he was not as cruel as the western liberals who chemically castrated their own war heroes over being gay

get a better hobby dude

>>2449022
Thats cause he didnt allow faggots to serve with him.(Reactionary)

>>2449021
Yeah because he wrote something homophonic once when he was 21 and not a Marxist yet and also it was the 50’s. And before you mention the camps he already left Cuba before they opened

>>2449026
>>2449026
Do you consider Castro, his closest friend to be a ""woketard"" aswell, Hazcel?
Because Castro had the same views, but later in his life made a public apology and anounced how the way he treated queer people haunted him as one of his biggest regrets, and he actually turned Cuba into the most queer friendly nation of the world

>>2449020
>It’s so fucking stupid how the Right claims that it’s the left that is “Soy and Gay” when they literally voted for a president who is the soyest, fattest, bitch on the planet.
Look, you just answered your own dilemma. There isn't actually anything masculine about the right. You shouldn't take them at their word.

>>2449024
Not a single proof over yours claims, Hazcel
And I was talking about Alan Turing, the man who invented the same computers allowing you to spew reactionary homophobic garbage here

>>2449030
>Castro is le cuck woke because he thought gays were people or smt
Lmfao, go back to the midget discord server, loser

>>2449029
>allowing you to spew reactionary homophobic garbage here

>>2449032
Stop using a homo device :)

>>2449031
>is that a different opinion!!!! Noooo my safespace is being ruined!!!!!


>>2449034
Homophobia and general reactionarism is not a ""different opinion"", is something to be eliminated, hazcel

>>2449035
Because it makes you a pathetic hypocritical cockroach, hazcel

>>2449037
I can appreaciate his contributions to computer science i dont have to appreaciate the fact he was a disgusting filthy sodomite.

>>2449036
>Homophobia and general reactionarism is not a ""different opinion"", is something to be eliminated,
This but with homosexuals.

>>2449038
So a hypocritical cockroach it is, typical of the neolarouchite midget simps
Enjoy leftypol while jannies are sleeping, I won't engage with you any further

>>2449040
>I won't engage with you any further
I accept your concession

Tell that to most mainstream leftoids. Rightoids managed to take masculinity because the mainstream leftoids decided that masculinity (and femininity to a lesser extent) is LE VERY BAD and was invented just to genocide trans people.

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>>2449038
>sodomite
He was worse, he was Gomorrahn
You don't even wanna know what evil, disgusting, titillating sin we named after that city.

>le trccns invented computer
Dear god. N1x land gender acceleration. Turing should have been killed before he invented computer. Now we are all doomed because of a trccn Turing

Using computer is a trccn behaviour. We are all already trccns. Fuck.

>>2449044
>>2449045
Why even live? We are all sucking trccn dick and titties just by using computers. We are all trccns bitches now. Trccns own us. Oh god its over. Might as well kill oneself if you have the balls. Not likely though. Cant expect that from someone dominated and outdone by a trccn. Shiet

>>2449020
A lie told often enough becomes the truth. They spend all day every day telling people how epic they are, and because they're insistent on it, people start to believe them.

>>2449041
>I accept your concession
A concession to what? Neither of you actually argued anything. The closest you came was vague appeals to authority ("This historical figure hated gays!" "Oh yeah? Well this historical figure WAS gay!"). Otherwise, all you did was exchange insults until one of you got bored.

>>2449040
>enjoy leftypol
Made by trccns so he is now even more of a hypocritical cockroach
>while jannies are sleeping
They are trccns. So that hypocritical cockroach is getting owned by trccns.

>>2449030
wow, we do have polyp tier morons posting here

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>>2449049
He's literally the only honest commie of this entire image board
Homophobia is part of the communist ethos, is really fucking bizarre that majority of homos simp for an ideology that literally wants them dead while condemning the only one that protects them and gives them rights (capitalist democracy)(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2449099
>He's
<t. samefag.
Jannies clean up the idpoz'd schizo.

>>2449099
>Homophobia is part of the communist ethos
Why?

>while condemning the only one that protects them and gives them rights (capitalist democracy)

The majority of AES states are either neutral towards or openly accepting of gays.

>>2449114
>>2449141
he's been ragebaiting since last night, likely a retarded argie
the jannies ain't gonna do shit, yesterday I spent like 2 hours spamming his thread with whatever bullshit I had in my downloads folder and dumped the entire scaruffi beatles pasta and the mods didn't do nothing, if the sharty wanted it they could straight up take down the entire website any day any time

>>2449032
notice how the rightoid paid fedposting community destabilizer only posts thought terminating cliches or provocative non statements

he could go so many places on the internet to vent his homophobia among likeminded cretins but he chooses here for some reason

>>2449099
he was asked for a source for a single one of those quotes 100 times in his deleted thread and he ignored every such request and continued to repeat himself in directly replies to posts debunking him. clearly bad faith. shoot and burn.

>>2449030
You will never be 6ft.

>>40846017 testing to see if it's still there (I think it's gone)

>muh masculinity
Most proletarians are impoverishment women and mothers.

genuinely asking you, why would you care in this way?

its one thing if were talking about being self critical of the state of the left and encouraging good exercise & diet. its one thing if were talking about strategic optics and trying to distance ourselves from the smug quasi-aristocratic softboy image that liberalism has cultivated for itself and that we are unfortunately grandfathered into only by virtue of the fact that in the anglo world at least communists are assumed to be more extreme liberals + all kinds of weirdo internet people latch onto it based on aesthetics and contrarianism

but why be mad that reactionaries themselves dont recognize this? reactionaries are willfully ignorant and inconsistent as a rule (and often outright delusional). and its not as if reactionaries are the only people who hold contradictory beliefs or apply standards very selectively to people they dislike. what is there to be confused about?

and im not being facetious either im just trying to give you a little perspective about why it makes no sense to care about this so you can think for yourself about why it bothers you.

>>2449154
women hold up probably 75% of the sky. mao was undershooting

>>2449269
marx was happily nicknamed the Moor and he enthusiastically supported the liberation of american slaves as one of the most significant moments of his time. and the gay community has forgiven maxim gorky meme i saw somewhere forever ago unfortunately couldnt find it

>>2449300
Maxim Gorky said that shit as an offhand remark and idiots treat it as gospel while ignoring all the actual work he did in his life.

>>2449027
> Hazcel
Do you know how many gays are in the ACP?

>>2449262
Women hold up half the sky. Can women have half the political positions? Haha no get back to work.

>>2449025
>Yeah because he wrote something homophonic once when he was 21 and not a Marxist yet and also it was the 50’s. And before you mention the camps he already left Cuba before they opened

How old was Engels when he wrote this (Urning was Karl Ulrichs word for a "man with a female soul" fyi)
https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/69_06_22.htm
and this
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/origin_family.pdf

How old was Lenin when he wrote this in reference to the Euhlenberg affair (homosex scandal amongst Kaiser)
<Effete, depraved, and degenerate this social group presents a striking example of the most revolting parasitism. To what depths of depravity this degeneration can descend is borne out by the scandalous Moltke v. Harden trial in Berlin, which revealed what a filthy cesspool the influential camarilla at the court of the semi-autocratic German Emperor Wilhelm II really was. It is no secret that with us in Russia similar abominations in corresponding circles are no exception.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1907/oct/29.htm

Or this
<Promiscuity in sexual matters is bourgeois. It is a sign of degeneration. The proletariat is a rising class. It does not need an intoxicant to stupefy or stimulate it, neither the intoxicant of sexual laxity or of alcohol. It should and will not forget the vileness, the filth and the barbarity of capitalism.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/zetkin/1925/lenin/zetkin2.htm

How old was Stalin and the rest of the Soviet communist party when they passed Article 121?

How old was Gorky when he wrote Proletarian Humanism linking the death cult of instant gratification and faggotry to fascism
https://archive.org/details/maxim-gorky-articles-and-pamphelts-flph-1950/page/354/mode/1up

How old are dprk when they wrote this article in response to gay marriage becoming popular in the West… Linking it to a diseased way of life and a tool for the capitalists to turn their citizens into slaves
>Deformation in the spiritual and cultural life, this is the means by which the capitalist state and the capitalist class attempt to turn the working masses into modern-day slaves.
..
<Even with this one fact of same-sex marriage, we can see the true face of a capitalist society where human rationality has been completely wiped out.

<Capitalism is the shame of human society, and its destruction is inevitable.

https://www-ryongnamsan-edu-kp.translate.goog/univ/ko/research/articles/08419be897405321542838d77f855226?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

>>2450188
> Focus on class
Class warfare extends to cultural and sexual matters, as Engels, Lenin Stalin, Gorky and DPRK all point out.

In fact that's why agents of LGBT infiltrate China to disrupt China's trade relations
See this example uncovered by Chinese netizens: https://xcancel.com/zhen_ming_/status/1960791876275204112

lol the masculinity thread immediately got derailed by seething Infrared NPCs who are desperate to pretend to be male humans when its obvious that they are neoliberal BUG-MEN. These dead eyes humanoids are indistinguishable from their fellow neoliberals at /r/Destiny who also need "engagement" and "debate" to survive

>>2449042
>masculinity is LE VERY BAD
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-harvard-summers/

>>2450191
>>2450186
Go back, infracel

>>2450191
<im actually doing a heccin communism by engaging in culture wars!!!!!!!
lol youre such a massive retard bro

>as Stalin, Gorky and DPRK all point out

yup checks out

>>2449099
Banned from speaking the truth

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>>2449020
That's all righists do is take take take, lie, lie, lie
Look at both 4cucks and Shitter. Noone claims louder about free speech and meanwhile you will get banned from both, no question about it. It's not a matter of if only when. Same as reddit, same as here. So why even act like they're defending free speech? Like why fucking bother?

I'm not gonna argue with them, or try to post about all the reasons it's wrong, or the legality of it all and what they're doing is criminal.

I keep a piss jar. You want me to take a pic of it? I keep a big ole brown ahh piss jar that eventually, I'm gonna throw a moderator. I don't know which moderator, I don't know when, but I'm gonna throw my yucky piss even I don't wanna be near at them, and they will vomit all over the place and fucking die.

How's that for free speech?

>>2450186
read Marx, people are product of their historical conditions, all this people are a particular product of their own time and culture.
That culture can change as time goes on.

>>2451460
free speech is a spook

>>2449020
its cause the right dominates a lot of the fighting sport sphere and gym scene tbh

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when the left actively rejects and derides masculinity what do you expect to happen

>>2451873
If you bully him enough he'll just become a fascist.

>>2450186
>religious literalism but Marxist
I bet this specimen is godcucked too.

>>2451907
I wonder if these people really believe "Marxist" means "devout apostle of Marx" or something like that


>>2449020
You're right about all that, but all of that "chad vs. cuck soyboy" nonsense the alt-right started a few years ago is really really really revealing.

the "Chad" is what the right want desperately to be, mostly because they feel emasculated by modern society.

Right-wingers, esp. the alt-right ones are mostly loser men (the "redpilled") who can't talk to women, are porn addicts, are not respected by their peers at work/uni/school, have no one to share hobbies with (mainly because they're a pain to be with), are insecure about their sexuality (hence, extremely homophobic) among other things.

Of course this type of people would be against women's right (If women are free to choose, they'd never choose them), against LGBT rights ("what do you mean they get to be themselves freely and I don't?") against affirmative action and anti-racism ("Nooo, don't take away my right to pretend I'm superior to people from other races!! {which is the only instance they can "feel superior" to anyone, because deep-down they know they're losers}") and the list goes on.

>>2451907
>>2451921
That's an hetero male, their very nature is to hate and have an innate desire to genocide queer folk and enslave women, just because it's wearing a leftist skin it won't change it's inherent ways, even if it needs to do insane claims and projection like "le fags are all fashist and shiet" despite the National Socialist Party literally sending Gay Men to gas chambers in the past

>>2451921
>
Right-wingers, esp. the alt-right ones are mostly loser men (the "redpilled") who can't talk to women, are porn addicts, are not respected by their peers at work/uni/school, have no one to share hobbies with (mainly because they're a pain to be with), are insecure about their sexuality (hence, extremely homophobic) among other things.
Oh ok so they normal dudes today. I guess leftists are homos (the other normal dudes)

>>2451930
Yeah? And? So? What are YOU gonna do about it, biatch?

>>2451796
>read Marx, people are product of their historical conditions, all this people are a particular product of their own time and culture.
Yes, well done

>>2451796
>pwease dont hold my favourite old white men accountable 🥺😖

>>2449021
Ok I might need one of those shirts afterall.

>>2450186
What is the best pizza place near Langley?

>>2452130
>I didn't understand the argument, therefore I will ridicule my own misunderstanding

Okay it seems I need to make things more clear.
To say people were antiscientific in the middle ages because they thought miasma caused disease would be wrong.

A rational understanding of gender, of sexual subalternity and human psychology was fringe and pristine during the early 20th century. And is still culturally resisted today in strength.

So why would be ok to call this people homophobic if you wouldn't call medieval people antiscientific for not understanding microorganism cause diseases and germ theory?

And finaly some had enough time to reflect on their views, Guevara did about many of his, as a son of a privileged, petit burgeoise family. All his reactionary views are from the start of this man's journey, and they changed for better through his life.

>>2452111
>degenerate
>perverted
>juche
>italian flag
>latin name
>brocoli head
>beard to hide the chin

Lol the real question is why this fella is interested on critizicing what a random american an-cap furry does with their life as an example of systemic failure, rather than pointing out how wages stagnate, inflation spikes, conflicts intensify, and the wealthy and powerful destroy the lives of everyone else. I bet he masturbates to furry porn and then prays to his ghosts for forgiveness.

Real masculinity is calm and understanding, strength doesn't need to point out fantasy moralistic faults on others. It is kind and humble enough to not act as judge cause it knows its own limits. Firm enough not to point accusating fingers but to guide and correct what needs to be corrected with love like a good father does with its kids.

What I see is a terrified children playing man, pretending to be tough. As is the case with many socially conservative men this days.

He holds reason in his systemic critique tho, but like a "fascist" (which probably he is, even if a mockery, a farce of the real thing, behind all that larp) he decides to highlight the moral shortcomings of society's "produced" people rather than the stupidity of the system and the culpability of the rulers.

It would be interesting to see what his solutions are.

>>2452474
Unbelievably based post

>>2451921
>(If women are free to choose, they'd never choose them)
>"what do you mean they get to be themselves freely and I don't?")
>("Nooo, don't take away my right to pretend I'm superior to people from other races!! {which is the only instance they can "feel superior" to anyone, because deep-down they know they're losers}")

this is a very reddit post, very good bait, i feel like this came from r/fauxmoi

Left Wing = Feminine political values
Right Wing = Masculine political values

The right is full of performative males.
That's the only thing they claim.

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what is even masculinity in a world where women have been "liberated" and can now function on their own by getting an education and working their way up the corporate ladder.
The old way of masculinity was to be the provider.
To the liberal and left masculinity means being a ned flanders, some push over who suppresses his rage and is just a door mat to women. To the right masculinity is being the polar opposite of feminist extremists, woe as me "im the victim" andrew tate bullshit.

what masculinity was and is and will be is in the eye of the beholder.

on a personal level i never worried about myself being masculine, i knew i wasnt the most manly man, and growing up my idols were david bowie and kurt cobain, two deeply feminine and glam guys

there are a lot of deeply confused, deeply lost boys out there who have no idea what being a man is in the modern age. and there are lots of grifters who will fill that void of father figure for them to make some cash

>>2454969
To me, 'positive' masculinity is to have a job and support yourself, help others, lift up the weak, be handy and able to do home/car repairs to a basic level, be somewhat physically fit, and so on. Obviously a woman can do all of these but men can also embody 'feminine' traits too.

Masculinity and femininity are completely illusory and arbitrary concepts, they can be literally whatever you want them to be. They have no affect on material reality what-so-ever. They don't exist in any practical way.

>>2449020
neither chad or soy are real designations and basing politics of this is stupid and just plays into their game.

That being said traditionally masculine leftwingers only exist east of vienna i am afraid.

>>2454969
we are returning to a hellenic consciousness of male beauty, which is the new masculine orientation. between homosexuality, transsexuality and militancy, all worthy men will have a place.

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>>2455057
Well Rip Zagreb. That's unfortunate.
East is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.

>>2449021
OH MY SCIENCE, DO YOU KNOW HAMAS IS HECKING HOMOPHOBIC TOO? BETTER SUPPORT THE AMERICAN EMPIRE AND IT ZIONIST GENOCIDE OR SOMETHING IDK

>>2451892
>i want the fascists to have more allies
>based on my theory that homosexuals/trans are all fascists on the inside, I will bully them and be a recruiter on the behalf of fascism
not the own you think it is

I actually think they claim ownership of a very stupid kind of masculinity. Not masculinity as a whole. Just the uh, right wing kind. That would include the sort of fey, aristocratic reactionary who dresses up like a maid and gets fucked by bigger men. As well as the guy who takes roids and doesn’t work out. the dude who flips out when he sees a penis and tries to kill anyone who laughs at him for being gay. And so on. All different “kinds” of men.

Next time a chud calls for Total transhumanist Death I'll remind all of you that people are a product of their time and culture and the chuds just doesn't know any better and then watch how 99% of this board will cry that it doesn't work that way.

>>2449021
>che was a hecking homophobe
we have no choice but to abandon socialism

Masculinity as a concept is inherently reactionary smh


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