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>>2452545 >>2454249I'm gonna get called a voooote-brained lib but fuck it. Try to organize with other people to help people get the fuck out of those states, even if you can get one of them out you've done something good.
Try to encourage other like-minded people to do the same. Even getting one single woman or LGBTQ person or whatever out of those hellholes makes a difference. Maybe not a fucking blip in the grand scheme of things but you're possibly helping someone not DIE. And if lots of people start taking action like that, then maybe lots of people can be saved.
>>2454288>>2454249How are we going to voot them out if everyone who opposes them flees?
>It's only a matter of time until they start banning women from the workplace entirelyWhy do we have to always make up insane hypotheticals instead of just dealing with the fucked up reality we already live in?
>>2454260>That isn't quite a solution for someone that gets pregnant in Texas and can't escape. What do you even do?Get some abortion drugs through the mail? Just use birth control in the first place?
Republican Storms Out of Back Door After Being Laughed At During Town Hallhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-storms-out-of-back-door-after-being-laughed-at-during-town-hall/
>A Republican congressman left a heated town hall via the back door after he was relentlessly laughed at and heckled while trying to defend President Trump.
>Rep. Barry Moore was hammered with tough queries—and more than a few heckles—during a raucous town hall in Daphne, Alabama.
>The tense showdown was captured in a 40-minute video from the advocacy group Indivisible Baldwin County. It shows Moore squirming under relentless questioning about Medicaid cuts, the closure of rural hospitals, Trump-era tariffs, immigration crackdowns, abortion bans, and even the deployment of the National Guard in Washington, D.C.
>Moore’s attempts to respond were drowned out with laughter and interruptions. At one point, the audience openly mocked his evasive answers.
>By the end of the night, the Republican lawmaker had had enough, cutting things short and slipping away through an exit rather than facing his increasingly hostile crowd.
>At one point, a woman asked, “Why are people not getting due process? Why are immigrants not getting due process?” Moore’s answer went down like a lead balloon. “So, due process for a citizen and a non-citizen are different things.” He was drowned out by loud jeers and cries of “false!”
>Moore continued speaking into his mic, but he couldn’t be heard over the crowd’s reaction. Failing to restore calm, he turned to an aide who took the mic from him before he headed for the exit to chants of “shame!”
>The question about due process proved to be the tipping point, but Moore had been grilled all night in Baldwin County, an area where Donald Trump won 78.4 percent of the vote in the 2024 presidential election.
>Asked what he viewed as Donald Trump’s “most meaningful” accomplishment, Moore cited border security. The audience responded with laughter, loud jeers, and chants of “Next question.” He was also accused of “lying” after asserting that Medicaid cuts in Trump’s megabill would apply only to undocumented immigrants.
>Moore did not offer closing remarks or say good night as he exited the event in Daphne, a suburb of Mobile.
>In an interview on Thursday on The Dale Jackson Show, a conservative Alabama podcast and radio program, Moore denied slipping out the back. “We left like any other event,” he said. “I think we tried to engage and answer questions, but unfortunately, it got hijacked.”
>Moore added that he was “so calm” throughout the event and insisted he “doesn’t mind facing the heat head on.” He attributed the disruptions to “some of the same bad actors,” who he said he had seen at other appearances.
>The Alabama congressman, first elected in 2020, is now running for Sen. Tommy Tuberville’s seat as Tuberville campaigns for governor.
>Since Donald Trump re-entered the White House in January, numerous Republican lawmakers have faced intense backlash during in-person town halls. Rep. Warren Davidson was booed over Trump-sponsored policies in Ohio, and, amid sweeping DOGE cuts in February, Rep. Rich McCormick in Georgia was heckled for justifying Elon Musk’s work.
>Rep. Mark Alford was the latest GOP lawmaker to host a contentious live event during the August recess. On Monday, voters at a town hall meeting in Missouri demanded that the Republican congressman denounce President Donald Trump’s “lies”—and told him to get his head “out of Trump’s a–.”
>Moore did not immediately respond to a request for further comment. >>2454299why bring them up
>>2454301not really. the supreme court was conservative when obummer left
>>2454310I was being serious.
>>2454309>not really. the supreme court was conservative when obummer leftIt's not really open for debate. Trump appointed 3 of the 5 justices who voted to overturn Roe V Wade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women's_Health_Organization#Opinions>The majority decision was written by Justice Samuel Alito and joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. >This but unironically >>2454343>Afd>EFF>CPRFLiterally all of them
And
>MAGACOMMUNISM >>2454299>I fucking hate the ACP and their twitter brained rejects.Can't really hate these people. It's like getting mad at LeftComs or Maoist Third-Worldists or some other sideshow that exists almost exclusively on the Internet.
>>2454338>Please delete this schizo babbleNo. You WILL hear of the Golden Gospel of our modern prophet and galactic saviour that's going to lead us to the land of MedBeds, burgers deep-fried in beef tallow and 25 cents/gallon gas.
>>2454429simply owning land =/= renting it out to tenants for more than the cost of maintenance for passive income
and proles =/= land owners
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
< — 2 —<What is the proletariat?
<The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital; whose weal and woe, whose life and death, whose sole existence depends on the demand for labor – hence, on the changing state of business, on the vagaries of unbridled competition. The proletariat, or the class of proletarians, is, in a word, the working class […] >>2454457>Everyone there is convinced all these simultaneous crises are just trying to move the news cycle away from Epstein.True, but Channel 5 are practically fucking feds sponsoring the war on drugs against users and possessors because the sex pest founder had no self control, now blatantly lying about cannabis to farther stigmatize drugs and drug users (as if they're not already stigmatized enough), getting off scot free since studies on most illegal drugs have been blocked or straight up falsified. Acting as a "grassroots" media whilst pushing the MSM narrative, much akin to projects like popular front whom after a few interesting docs just turned to pushing a pro-Ukraine narrative. So to repeat - because of the War on Drugs, studies on most illegal drugs have been blocked or straight up falsified. This sex pest "news anchor" wants revanche against drug users for his own misfortunes of abuse causing visual snow as a result of unregulated drug use from the WOD, going onto interview and platform DEA and DARE propagandists on his show to put them on equal grounds as the groups they have stigmatized, oppressed and murdered for decades - the drug users and enthusiasts. The news anchor went onto blatantly push a conservative decade old lie of marijuana being a "gateway drug", ignoring the social circumstances that have statistically pointed to the dealers pushing other drugs and not marijuana itself causing regular users to seek out other drugs. It is easy to dismiss this when entire institutions which have revolved around being propaganda departments for "justifying" the WOD in the eyes of the public have fabricated heaps of supposed "evidence" to produce every such claim and back it towards their own biased lying swindling view.
I sincerely hope Andrew Callaghan and his radlib followers suffer and go through a painful death for the damage they continue to cause towards drug users and drug enthusiasts who are in essence the driving force for the development of chemistry, botany and ultimately scientific development for the betterment of the human condition. Death to the War on Drugs. Chemistry, botany and recreation need no explanation, they are essential for the health of the burdened by nonconforming intellect and the will towards development.
For those who don’t know, jobs.now is a new website that republishes PERM job ads from newspapers. Normally, companies bury these ads in obscure Sunday editions because they don’t actually want U.S. workers to see or apply.
Here’s why: if even one American applicant meets the "minimum" qualifications, the employer must interview them. If 100+ Americans apply, the company can’t realistically interview all of them without risking its PERM case collapsing. On top of that, rejecting large numbers of applicants triggers Department of Labor audits. So, to avoid this, companies hide the ads.
Recently, a man named James Blunt threatened jobs.now with legal action, calling it a “federal crime.” (Tweet attached). People soon discovered he’s actually an Indian national, most likely on an H-1B visa.
I can see why both the Left and the Right in America resent us. This kind of behavior — essentially trying to suppress Americans from applying to jobs they are legally entitled to — borders on violating civil rights. It plays directly into the criticism that H-1B workers are complicit in undermining opportunities for U.S. citizens.
https://www.teamblind.com/post/civil-rights-voilation-white-lawyer-on-x-who-threatened-us-applicants-over-jobsnow-revealed-as-indian-h-1b-holder-3pj5xubu>>2454496>Can you just answer the question about why this shit is so important to you? NTA but can you? Why is being an internet jannie so important to you?
Why is it that you are wiling to put time and effort lobbying the liberal state to pursue your moralist pet peeve? Because I can only think of nefarious reasons for them to find common ground in this matter.
I was walking to a train station in Chicago today and I saw some communists selling newspapers outside. I bought the paper and was fairly impressed. I think I’m going to get involved with them. Best commie paper I’ve ever read. Some very nice rhetoric and good clear takes on Mamdani, Epstein, AI, and zoomers.
https://communistusa.org/Has anyone interacted with them?
https://archive.is/53zBaThe Dutch are quietly shifting towards a four-day work week
>The Netherlands has the highest rate of part-time working in the OECD (see chart). Average working weekly hours for people aged 20 to 64 in their main job are just 32.1, the shortest in the EU, according to Eurostat. It has also become increasingly common for full-time workers to compress their hours into four days rather than spread them over five, says Bert Colijn, an economist at Dutch bank ING. “The four-day work week has become very, very common,” he told me. “I do work five days, and sometimes I get scrutinised for working five days!”>It all started with women. The Netherlands had a traditional male breadwinner model until women started to join the labour force in part-time roles in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, leading to what many called a “one-and-a-half” earner model. The tax and benefit system incentivised this arrangement. Over time, as these working patterns became normalised, working part-time has become more popular with men too, especially when they have young children.>How can the experience of the Netherlands inform the debate in other countries? For a start, it suggests the predictions of economic self-harm are overdone. In spite of its shorter average working hours per person, the Netherlands is one of the richest economies in the EU in terms of GDP per head. That is because shorter working hours are combined with relatively high productivity per hour, and a high proportion of people in employment: 82 per cent of working-age people in the Netherlands were in employment at the end of 2024, according to OECD data, compared with 75 per cent in the UK, 72 per cent in the US, and 69 per cent in France. >>2454514>>2454525This is the American section of the Revolutionary Communist International, formerly the International Marxist Tendency, is a decently sized international. I have a friend in the leadership of one of their European sections. They are basically Trotskyists that repudiate Trotskyism subsequent to the death of Trotsky. They have some cooky British theorist, Alan Woods, in their intellectual lineage, but I don’t think they are particularly sectarian or committed to the quirks of their history.
The American section is very young and growing very quickly. I think they were essentially a reading group that in 2024 began pivoting into party building, and they have been fairly successful.
From what I remember their Pakistani (I might be getting this wrong) section is very impressive. That’s all I know about them. They might be decent.
>>2454566>Communism is free timePretty much lol, see picrel. The point is though we gotta kill everyone who wrongs us before we have a world of only nice people. This might seem horrifying until you're one of us and the larger we get the less terrifying and the more fun it is to find out who should die to pave this road.
But wait, theres more, a noble guy named Bordiga who was at least twice as Lenin said that the ends do not justify the means - In the name of a greater civilization, we curse those who for the sake of their ambitious dreams, brought about the massacre of so many young lives. No matter how brutal the crime, you will always get glorification of its heroism and tradition from the eunuchs of bourgeois culture. he spoke, thus he invented buddhism 2 which was to wait things out for the world to just arrange itself the way we want it to be or at least close enough that casualties will be minimal and victory be swift. So he sat in his magical armchair and flew away after having a stroke, one day his red magical armchair will descend from the skies and the communism will have begun.
>>2454545As long as it doesn't put the server host in trouble and it isn't being spammed on sfw boards I could not care less.
What does bother me is that it doesn't seem like it's possible to have any kind of reasonable discussion about it, at the very least because the anti-loli side takes anything besides the full throated condemnation of it as a tacit admission that their opponent is a pedophile and therefore ontologically evil.
But what's more important I think is how, assuming the anti-loli posters are in fact well meaning, is that they don't seem to see how dangerous their, yes, hysteria is in the current environment. We're already seeing how this shit is playing out in the United States and the UK where censorship is being aggressively pushed in the name of "protecting" the vague and immaterial "children." Public schools are being assaulted with legal challenges and penalties for carrying literature with lgbtq themes, or even legitimate sexual content aimed at minors like books on sexual health, puberty, identity, consent, or other material conservatives just don't like. Invasive measures are being progressively pushed onto the internet like having to personally identify yourself in order to access pornhub or whatever, and you'd have to be an idiot to think its going to stop there. The UK just got hit with their online safety act, and not only is it disrupting access to wikipedia, they're also talking about banning VPNs. Even here in the US you've got congress trying to pass similar internet bills in the name of protecting children from porn or whatever.
Even if you think that's all an acceptable sacrifice to make in the name of combatting evil cartoons, I don't think most people are aware of how that shit can be weaponized. Like the SOSA/KOSA act they tried to pass in the US a few years ago has provisions against revenge porn or deepfake porn. Sounds good, right? But the actual language of the bill is such that it's basically a loaded gun aimed at small websites, especially like leftypol.
The language of the bill is such that in essence leftypol would have to be monitored by moderators 24 hours a day, seven days a week. This is because all someone that had it out for this place would have to do is upload a nude image of someone, and then have them submit a complaint to the government that this was uploaded without their consent, while simultaneously sending a takedown request to leftypol. As soon as the government gets the complaint, a clock starts ticking, and every hour that image is left up the owners of leftypol would be subject to iirc a thousand dollar fine. I think everyone that's a regular here knows that there are times when the mods aren't paying attention or just aren't available for some reason, and can do the math on the kind of financial damage that could cause.
The alternative to the fines would be submitting leftypol to what would basically be the US government's automated porn snooper, which would be a massive database against which every file uploaded to leftypol would be checked in order to make sure its not "child porn" or revenge porn or whatever.
So you see, I care not because I have really strong feelings about jerking off to lolita hentai, but because intentionally or not you freaks are contributing to bourgeois plans to monitor and censor the whole fucking internet, all because people you don't know might be masturbating to yucky cartoons you aren't being forcedto look at, all while actual pedophiles in government, church, homes, and corporations prey on and harm actual, flesh and blood children.
>>2454579>As long as it doesn't put the server host in trouble and it isn't being spammed on sfw boards I could not care less.We don't allow a lot of freeze peach and artistic expression on this board. We don't even allow pepes or soyjaks. I think you'll find that leftypol doesn't generally endorse the absolute divine right of freeze peach, especially at least as it comes to posting on this board. We aren't "I may not agree with you, but I'll die fighting for your right to say it" types.
>But what's more important I think is how, assuming the anti-loli posters are in fact well meaning, is that they don't seem to see how dangerous their, yes, hysteria is in the current environment. We're already seeing how this shit is playing out in the United States and the UK where censorship is being aggressively pushed in the name of "protecting" the vague and immaterial "children." ……
>…..The alternative to the fines would be submitting leftypol to what would basically be the US government's automated porn snooper, which would be a massive database against which every file uploaded to leftypol would be checked in order to make sure its not "child porn" or revenge porn or whatever. Blahh bllahhh blahh. I already covered your fucking arguments. You even responded to the post where I covered it yet it seems to have been lost on you.
>>2454545>And mind you, we're not even talking about criminalization of it or whatever, we're talking about whether it should be allowed on this website under the name of freeze peach and artistic expression, and whether we're morally wrong for judging them for their proclivities.This all fucking started because some anon made a bait post about you have be a loli porn enjoyer to join his org, then some anons started unironically agreeing and saying, that it's important that nobody judges anyone for masturbating to loli.
You can masturbate to gore to your hearts content. Real snuff films are all over the internet and every social media platform. I can't stop you from doing that. But I can judge you for doing that. I think it's rational to not want to associate to people who get off like that.
>>2454601Post the webm I can't watch it and I'm too lazy to login. bordiga fags are so fucking evil I hate them. CURSED BE bordiga FOR BEING A FUCKING SCRIBE.
Long live socialist commodity production!
Fuck ultraleftists and fuck that fat fucking loser borgafag.
>>2454598Nope. love him or hate em, trump has a certain showmanship, a certain charisma that normal politicians lack. Obama and Reagan, and even bush jr had a little of it too, thats why they won.
democrats think its about being the smartest in the room, but its about being the coolest. or about being an outsider, not part of the Washington elite. being the rebel.
republicans will most likely return to being boring neocons, cause if vance doesnt win, who else do the gop got? rubio? desantis?
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https://houdini-magazine.itch.io/houdini-magazine-august-2025>>2454592>We aren't "I may not agree with you, but I'll die fighting for your right to say it" types.Strawman, don't care, plus you're not "we."
>Blahh bllahhh blahhNot an argument, because you can't actually respond to anything I said. I suggest killing yourself for being a christoid fed loser.
>>2454628>Strawman, don't care, plus you're not "we."Not a strawman. That's what you are claiming to be, some guy that doesn't crank it to loli, but is just very motivated to defend it other's right to.
>>2454628>Not an argument, because you can't actually respond to anything I said. No, I INB4ed you trying to change the point of the discussion on unrelated hoo hah and you took it as your sign to do that.
>I suggest killing yourself for being a christoid fed loser.The lady doth protest too much, methinks
>>2454635>No one is telling you that you must associate with such people. They're saying you shouldn't give reactionaries even more power over the internet because a drawing makes you feel icky.Nope. I was the first person to mention the question of legality or censorship with the INB4.
>>2454545This discussion was always about how we must accept people who crank it to loli.
>>2454467>I'm probably gonna get shit for this, but in the past, I've found opinions on lolicon to be the best question to weed out unpleasant people in general. It exposes the people who are seething reactionaries, and it exposes the outright creeps. The most levelheaded answer to this question is always "I may find it distasteful, but it's fiction, so idgaf" >>2454634>Not a strawmanYou can't actually refute any of the points I made so you instead try and make it about free speech. That's a strawman, attacking an argument you made up yourself. Hth faggot
>NoYou're really pathetic and I'm glad I'm not afflicted with whatever is wrong with you.
>>2454650Use all the power of your broken brain and highlight the part of the post that's advocating "about how we must accept people who crank it to loli."
You fucked up pathetic retard.
>>2454754I donated once when I was an idiot kid 15-20 years ago and then I found out shit like this
>>2454752 and this
>>2454621 …. never again!
>>2454768Uhh yes it's called Dengism.
China has achieved abundance but it's called "overcapacity" in western media.
>>2454796>normalize>EventuallyBro Gaza is dead bro. Gaza is kill. It is razed to the fucking ground.The west bank is getting walled up as we speak, the army and the settlers are doing pogroms every week, bro. What in the fucking "eventually", are you talking about?
Palestinians in Gaza have already been exterminated until most that remains are the malnourished, the wounded, the dying and the crippled NOW.
They have nothing NOW.
The UN is been kicked NOW.
Israel is running concentration camps inside Gaza NOW.
Israel is mass raping and torturing Palestinians NOW.
What, you cretin. Are you waiting for the Hareetz article to sell you victory in the terms of liberal Zionism?
You lost. BDS did jack shit. Your shit ass puny protests did jack shit. Your millions of jerk-off "civil society" orgs did jack shit. Your communist parties did jack shit. Your unions did jack shit. Your anarchists did jack shit.
And most damning of all, you didn't even lose to the security state. You didn't lose to glowies and thugs. You lost to basic bitch PR in basic bitch liberal democracy. All your "allies" are liberal Zionists now. All your attendants, your celebrities and your activism has failed to even move the needle of liberal democracy and most of the people in those protests… will be voting for the next Zionist into office. All your good pro-Palestine
people march along liberal Zionism and blame "Netanyahu".
There is no eventually, it is done and Zionism has won.
>>2454879I hope you’re samefagging. The great hope of american and European “liberal Zionists” is that somehow, a sharp line can be drawn in history to separate the past from the present from the future. That the past is in the past and the book is closed. That they can escalate criminal horrors to absolve themselves of previous criminal horrors. This won’t work. Israel is not a superpower. It is a weak country that hides behind extreme violence.
The reality is that none of that is true. Israel’s future is now actually uncertain in a way nobody ever thought it would be again, and Palestine is not exterminated. It will outlast Israel, most likely, because of these events.
A Trump administration postwar plan for Gaza proposes a 10-year U.S.-led trusteeship, voluntary relocation of 2 million residents, and transforming Gaza into a tourism and tech hub.
(Relocated) Landowners would receive digital tokens, $5,000 cash, and rent subsidies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/31/trump-gaza-plan-riviera-relocation/>>2454539The reason is that if we ban media that has no connection to harm, it'll lead to a slippery slope.
And this was proven with collective shout.
You can call those people who consume loli pedophiles, and hate them as such, but the dogma conversations have done nothing but damage art and anti-pedophilia action.
(Not even Chris Hansen is on your side)
>>2455084Because the conversation keeps naturally being brought up.
>>2455088They're also hypocrites.
Like remember people were calling Agent Kochinski a pedophile with the goblin porn thing, and were posting the clip which contained the material?
When the fuck do you download and spread CHILD PORN to own a pedophile??
Even badempanda did that shit, and POSTED it on his channel.
(Obviously you can call both pedophiles, which is logically valid, but it was an insane thing not highlighted)
>>2455084>Why are you so desperate at starting this shit again.It's actually a pretty important topic for outing reactionaries on the Left. If someone is wrong on "the loli question" I would bet 9 times out of 10 they are a reactionary just looking to use Leftism as an excuse to enact violence on anyone they don't like. Evidenced by the fact a janny decided to weigh in by throwing out bans for people discussing this topic just because it's icky even though Leftypol literally links to a site full of lolicon in the top bar.
Also, it's a very slow news week so this thread is pretty dead when we aren't arguing over something stupid.
>>2455166>just build desalination plants1. easier said than done
2. isn't desalination more energy-intensive than what can be gotten out of the water being desalinated?
4. won't desalination have the long term effect of decreasing the habitability of saltwater bodies by changing the ratio of salt to water significantly, unless you pump equal amounts of water back in that you take out?
>>2455210Honestly fuck that.
I'll be a better person for my own reasons, fuck that female gaze shit.
>>2455274All this does is just take
> Women dont love you for who you are, all they care about is you have six figures, six ft of height, and six pack absAnd you go, "True! Why dont the incels get it!"
You can defend it by explaining how women willingly choose to spend billions of dollars on make up and whatever to please men, I cant car anymore.
>>2454811>I guess my question is more how the Clintonites of the 1990s compare to the Democrats of today.Pretty similar I think for most politicians. One of the "gifts" Clinton gave us was the strategy of triangulation. That is taking a position from the left that's popular (like legal abortion) and then also trying to outflank the Republicans from the right on something, like "balancing the budget" or being tough on crime. Harris was doing this last year. ("It's like a third position!")
I think society is much more polarized today though. This was not as much the case in the 1990s. Clinton won states like Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee and Kentucky. His electoral map kind of looked like the Union army conquering the Upper South and then advancing down the Mississippi towards Vicksburg.
>>2455294>And you go, "True! Why dont the incels get it!"you didn't finish the post. i said the opposite of this.
i like how my comment about desalination plants gets ignored but his dumb shit shit immediately gets 3 replies. really shows you where the board's head is at.
>>2455319>30-something percent of people still have sex once a week<this means sex is cancelled. I see the trendline is downwards, and I hear you, but I think you might be overstating your case a little.
Anyway one day there will be a pill that kills your lust just like ozempic kills your gluttony. and then everyone can be a bunch of careerist PMCs for their 20s and stop taking the pill once they're ready to start a family. I think that will become the new meta.
>>2455345PMC careerists don't have time for that. they always have another zoom meeting in a half hour
>>2455340the key is to counter the america first shit because ZOG is used to smuggle america first by implying that america would be le good and le wholesome and le based if it weren't for le zioinists but the truth is that america would still be dogshit regardless of zionists in government. also most of the zionists are homegrown christians so there's that. firsters just want american imperialism to go back to being done on behalf of burger normies, rather than on behalf of these israelis and dual citizens and bribe taking politicians.
When I used to date, dating looked like this:
>sell a pack
>make a cool band
>call a woman in my phone
>"let's go out"
>pick her up in my brand new Toyota 86 (got repo-ed when I lost both jobs during covid)
>mall shopping, never bought shit for myself, but she always had the nicest clothes
>dinner date? No less than $100, no chain resturants, none of that shit. Nothing gives a chick the ick like Chilis or Applebees or Red Lobster, gotta be a fine dining place
>everything? I paid for.
>we'd go back to my place, smoke, maybe a little wine, and fuck
>on to the next one
Explain to me how you date without a car or money? Dating is a purely transactional experience. Why are less people dating? Because there's less money floating around. Why would any woman want to spend any time with a man who can't do what men are designed from birth to do? Which is provide my man. Play your role, and stop being a bitch.
I haven't dated since 2023 and I don't plan on starting anytime soon. It's a distraction from what's really important. The mission, the money and the message.
>>2455351Why do you treat dating like a capitalist would?
>Dating is a purely transactional experience.jesus
>>2455351I never did all that and I've had success with women and I'm not a giga-feminist either. In fact I get accused of misogyny anytime I make the lightest generlization about women meanwhile this board is always:
>Men are like this>Men are like that>Hetmoids>etc.I'm not even talking about as extreme as that gay guy who spams the crime statistic threads. It's just so ingrained in the culture to generalize men, and women tbf, but this place only pushes back on generalizations of women.
Then we have fags like "Mr. I Love My Wife"
>>2455309>I'm in my 30s and moved in with my now-wife when I was 19 and broke lol. And I'm not exactly a gigachad looker. maybe go after less shallow women.>>2455274>i tried to explain this to some sad incel anons but their skulls are too thick. Honestly the bar for fellas is so low that all they have to do is be a little nicer and touch little grass and learn to socialize and take basic care of themselves. But "blackpill" ideology teaches them that no, you have to be jacked and rich to be liked. really shallow shit.Who feels he has to deboonk "the manosphere or incel culture" however he sees it and he feels like he's on some crusade against it. But really all he does is insult everyone and try to rub his supposed success in their face, I guess with hopes of converting them or something.
>Uhhh, I studied in school, and went to Harvard, and now I have a 6 figure job on Wall St. Why are you complaining about not being able to find work? I have head hunters coming after me nonstop!Ok that's good for you. How is your life experience or advice useful to any of these people having career difficulties.
>>2455364You can be intellectually aware that your views and interpersonal relationships are predicated by patriarchal structures, you can understand the rules of the game, and why those rules are fucked, but this doesn't change the rules of the game.
This is actually quite a contradiction I struggle with, because none of the women I'm friends with reflect these values. I would say that it's less about women, and more about the role of a man that you have to play. You can't opt out of it.
Women will say all the time "Men are this, men are that, men are awful violent creatures" and we all know they aren't talking about all men, even when they say all men, so just carry that energy into this conversation, because I know very well that not all women are viewing men from that patriarchal lens, but most are, and that's the rules of the game.
Socialists seem to think that understanding the rules and wanting to change the rules means you aren't affected by the rules, but the rules are the rules. You as a man, have one purpose in life, that's to make money and then use that money to provide. If you try to opt out? You become a pariah, a useless eater, a worthless non-contributor.
>>2455370unfortunately no. I don't think houdini is entirely wrong in calling out the shallowness of women but I think it's unfair to blame men for not "living up" to those shallow expectations. we should hold women accountable if they're failing to live up to their ideals and expect better of them. not wanting to date someone for being poor is literally no different from not wanting to date someone for being born in the wrong caste or race. it's all bigotry.
>>2455372>you can understand the rules of the game, and why those rules are fucked, but this doesn't change the rules of the game.I get it but also it feels like a cop out, we should hold the people around us accountable and encourage a more egalitarian way of doing things. That's not to say you need to date people you're not attracted to, but make people question why they are attracted to wealth in the first place? why do you get the ick from a guy not having his own car? why does this seemingly only apply to men? questioning your female friends about this shit is a quick way to lose all your female friends, but I still think that's better than being silent and just quietly accepting the status quo because "it's too haaaard and me hoooorny noooow" when it just makes things worse for those who come after us.
>>2455389>lol 'their ideals'. women are not a hivemindIf someone calls themselves a leftist but would never consider a romantic relationship with someone that didn't meet a particular income threshold, then they're not a leftist.
I'm not really talking about normies here since I would never consider dating one and they are not hypocrites in their worship of wealth. This is purely about left-wing women.
>>2455351>Explain to me how you date without a car or money? Dating is a purely transactional experience. Why are less people dating? Because there's less money floating around. Why would any woman want to spend any time with a man who can't do what men are designed from birth to do? Which is provide my man. Play your role, and stop being a bitch.But this is also an American thing. I was talking to my young German relative and she was saying, to her, paying your half on the date is normal and the standard. I told her in America, there is no way the man doesn't pay the first date. I was like to be fair it's also considered standard to pay for a non-romantic friend if you invite them out somewhere, the one who invites pays, so in the case of first dates, the man always pays effectively, even if the woman has it in mind, I'll get the next one or something. She was like, "I don't know, that'd make me feel like a prostitute or something." Well… :/
>>2455416Unless you live in the middle of nowhere there are plenty of ways to meet people.
People just don't want to because it's scary to put yourself out there.
>>2455432No.
Would you prefer if I replaced the second "people" with "people who are lonely"?
>>2455402>The reason I personally do not do these various scams is because I honestly couldn't stand to be around the kinda people that only treat you well due to wealth.
this af every person I've met with petty boug aspirations actively involved with crypto,rent-seeking,passive incomes and other legal scams are just what every TWist thinks americans are but a little worse. I've met actual scammers using real methods that are more honest and forthcoming than these people
>>2455437If there's plenty of places to meet people but the only people going to those meetups are people who aren't scared of putting themselves out there then you're inevitably just going to encounter people that aren't like you and likely not fit in.
>>2455441The funny thing is if you go on reddit or any other social media platform focused on these topics half the posts are women complaining that the men at their book club or gym or volunteer org have the audacity to hit on them or ask them out. It's a societal/cultural problem that can't be resolved by putting yourself out there more if people are gonna give you bad looks for even trying.
>>2455444>you won't fit inBrother you won't fit in anywhere by being a shut-in. Gotta work those social muscles a bit and seek help. I'm not asking you to storm the beaches of Normandy.
>half the posts are women complaining that the men at their book club or gym or volunteer org have the audacity to hit on themAnd? Make friends first, then grow from there. Rome wasn't built in a day. You can ask a chick if she wants to hangout before just saying "hey I want to fuck you"
>>2455445>And? Make friends first, then grow from there. Rome wasn't built in a day. You can ask a chick if she wants to hangout before just saying "hey I want to fuck you"Brother I think everyone knows what's going on when a man tries to befriend a woman. You aren't slick and she's still gonna interpret it as trying to get in her pants. As a society we need to acknowledge that dating and romance are normal and men aren't automatically creepy or pests just for wanting to not die alone. It just would be nice if strangers made themselves a bit more approachable and less neurotic. Americans are so fucking emotionally closed off.
Developing countries really do have a better social culture. When everyone is poor, people are friendlier and less judgemental of strangers.
>>2455448There is no way to develop wealth under Capitalism without scamming or inheriting it from a scammer. When women say you need to have a prerequisite income before they'll date you, what they mean is you need to have a required lack of moral character to allow her to preserve her own moral character while still reaping the benefits of exploitation.
>>2455441>Local book clubs (library cards are free), hiking clubs, etc. Volunteer orgsGreat places to (possibly) meet potential friends if one has the money for transport and gas, a close enough proximity to one, and the time to actually do it, If one were to consider dating though, it’d be a terrible choice.
>churches (god forbid)This one shouldn’t have even been uttered. Not even a thought.
>there are too many people online looking for companionship to countTheoretically, one could potentially find the perfect or even just a solid friend group online. Maybe even find a date or a hookup. In practice, the internet is a big ol' shithole.
>>2455459I shit you not I've met more girls from leftypol than I have from real life.
I mean, not directly through leftypol but meeting girls through 4chan and then finding out they got permabanned from leftypol is usually a sign of a top tier discord kitten.
>>2455477What's confusing about it?
>go to a video game general>ask if anyone wants to play>get added by girls>start chatting>she mentions getting banned from /leftypol/ for being too based and banned from /pol/ for not being racistunironically wife material
>>2455463>compassreddit
>the country selling more weapons to israel than any other country on earth, and constantly using the IMF to rape the third world is to the "left" of china economically lmfao
this better be a sarcastic meme
>>2455529Who's going to maintain the AI
Get in the prompt chair wagie
>>2455529like I always said, AI requires huge amounts of human labor: Coding, tying together different software systems written in different languages on different operating systems, troubleshooting cloud services, getting feedback from customers, writing bug tickets, updating training data, curating training data, quality control, etc.
The myth of automation taking away jobs is hilarious, especially since we're not even using AI to do stuff like agricultural work or industrial work, but random services like analyze CCTV footage or comb through large data sets or generate anime tiddie pics.
>>2455398it's impossible
buys a pack of cigarettesfor real proles
buys a case of beerto save money!
goes to the strip club with the homiesRead Marx
buys a bag of weedyou fucking chud,
puts a tiny down payment on a brand new car instead of buying a used junker or a moped, getting stuck with interest paymentshe said the real proletariat is reserveless,
has three kids with a drug addictimperial core workers TOOOOOOOTALLY make below subsistence.
buys another game console.I have nothing to sell
does a line of cokebut my labor power
eats 3K calories/day of fast food instead of cooking trust me!
gets a DUII am the same as an 1850s London child working 12 hour shifts in a factory with no safety equipment or regulations while not knowing how to read or write and dying of undiagnosed lung cancer at 33
>>2455541<"By counting the most meagre form of life (existence) as the standard, indeed, as the general standard – general because it is applicable to the mass of men. He turns the worker into an insensible being lacking all needs, just as he changes his activity into a pure abstraction from all activity. To him, therefore, every luxury of the worker seems to be reprehensible, and everything that goes beyond the most abstract need – be it in the realm of passive enjoyment, or a manifestation of activity – seems to him a luxury."t. Marx
Also posts like yours are pretty much proof that the people who go on about "muh labour aristocrats" are inevitably petty bourgeois parasites themselves who are projecting their own tendencies onto the majority of Western workers. If you think most people live like this you're delusional.
>>2455306You were affirming the post you were replying to.
Also, it's always such an odd response.
People will call out incels for not being given sex, but will also argue, "You will be given sex if you just uh wipe!!"
Yeah incels dont meet standards, but what makes you think those standards are enough?
It's constantly goal shifted, but it's always "justified".
>>2455534kek, they picked one of a hell picture of him.
but honestly, this one should be used.
>>2455534this is fairly well known already but, if you ever wanted to murder someone and get away with it hitting them with a car and/or colliding into their vehicle at high speed is a nearly guaranteed way to do so. cars are incredibly dangerous and it's really difficult to beat the "I lost control of the vehicle" or "I mixed up the brake and the acceleration pedals in my panic" defense in court to get you a simple vehicular manslaughter charge instead of murder. It's pretty sad but drunk drivers especially get away with it a LOT because our society has accepted being an alcoholic as normal.
just putting this out there.
>>2455596>here's how you get away with murder>by getting hit with a completely different charge that will also put you in prison for a long timeok lol
here's a better tip
don't get caught
So, what even is a cracker jack?
>>2455594i doubt your average worker went to uni, anon. Why are the middle-class over-educated always so quick to project their minority experience as a majority experience?
>>2455647people leave and come back quite often
fellas are are nursing students petty bourgeois for attending college now?
>>2455645educated =/= intelligent
educated =/= informed or misinformed depending on what kind of "education" it is
this is why they cut funding for "humanities" because they only want students learning STEM so they can make porky profits but not history or sociology, because that stuff is "woke" and "marxist"
>>2455368>Who feels he has to deboonk "the manosphere or incel culture" however he sees it and he feels like he's on some crusade against it. But really all he does is insult everyone and try to rub his supposed success in their face, I guess with hopes of converting them or something.this whole thing started because I was arguing with an actual misogynist who said women suck blah blah blah.
Also this part
>Uhhh, I studied in school, and went to Harvard, and now I have a 6 figure job on Wall St. Why are you complaining about not being able to find work? I have head hunters coming after me nonstop!is a completely made up quote. I have not "rubbed my success" in anyone's face. I'm a regular ass dude. I just think misogyny is cringe. I'm not on a "crusade" against misogny just for disagreeing with misognyists when they post on here. that's the problem with misogynists. they air their misogyny on imageboards thinking it's a safe space for them and then when people still disagree with them they see that as a "crusade" so you make up a bunch of shit i never said, and take shit I did say out of its proper context to make it look like I'm just being this "wife guy" out of nowhere specifally to trigger incels. this stuff only came up because I was either asked questions or wanted to give examples
>>2455567Sorry I was annoyed earlier.
Though I'll say that I'm atleast skeptical.
You can see plenty of guys doing the "bare minimum" on tindr, and they dont get swipes – I'm not saying women are wrong for not literally dating any guy, but your advice has the same vibe as, "Just walk in and ask for the job"
>>2454565Marx wrote Capital 150 years ago and people don't understand why he started it with an analysis of how value created from labour exploitation is the starting point of capital accumulation.
Forget about it, communism is when Russia sells gas to China in exchange for smartphones, we are only three billion Xiaomi phones away from the worldwide revolution, trust the plan.
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